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Frieren is now the TOP RANKED anime in ALL major western anime ranking websites (MAL, Anilist, LiveChart, Anime-Planet, Kitsu, aniDB, and ANN). Unprecedented achievement!

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Interestingly, these websites' user bases all show different tastes in anime, but they all somehow agree on the same top 1.

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@Okeanix Why this happened?
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kanarazukarasu said:
Interestingly, these websites' user bases all show different tastes in anime, but they all somehow agree on the same top 1.


let's all thank @Okeanix for making this happen🙏
Jun 4, 2024 11:31 AM
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I'm not surprised frieren is perfect and doesn't fall short in a single category, it also has something for everyone with beautiful animation thought provoking themes interesting likeable characters and the most visually stunning action I have ever seen.
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it might fall in the future, but the facts it achieved the place in top all in those websites. is proof enough
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Re Zero could never
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@okeanix I agree this show is completely overrated wouldn’t even be in my top 20. Was bored throughout
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Frieren fans on their way to becoming the new FMAB fans lol. But it's good you are happy
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Frieren fans on their way to becoming the new FMAB fans lol. But it's good you are happy

I don't know about that, while Frieren fan fight the criticism it gets for being a new series and getting the top spot. FMA fights every anime that's gets a better score than them.
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Same thing with many local websites of my country too. Btw wasnt okeanix saying like 4 months ago that when re zero comes it will take number 1 spot and frieren will already have a score below 9. He also said that his predictions are always correct, why is he now saying ratings dont matter anymore, i wonder what happened.
How much would i give to see someone like thatanimesnob to have a debate with okeanix about re zero, would be such a clown fiesta from both sides.
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It was the right anime at the right time for sure overrated yes if this would’ve came out during jujutsu Kaisen season 2 run, you would hear nothing about it
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Same thing with many local websites of my country too. Btw wasnt okeanix saying like 4 months ago that when re zero comes it will take number 1 spot and frieren will already have a score below 9. He also said that his predictions are always correct, why is he now saying ratings dont matter anymore, i wonder what happened.
How much would i give to see someone like thatanimesnob to have a debate with okeanix about re zero, would be such a clown fiesta from both sides.
@taikaaaa11

Same thing with many local websites of my country too. Btw wasnt okeanix saying like 4 months ago that when re zero comes it will take number 1 spot and frieren will already have a score below 9. He also said that his predictions are always correct, why is he now saying ratings dont matter anymore, i wonder what happened.

1- Re:Zero Season 3 is not out yet.
2- I said Frieren's score would go lower every month, and it did go lower, just a little slower than I expected because the anime community is dead. The 414k votes that Frieren has are really low; it needs at least 1 million.

How much would i give to see someone like thatanimesnob to have a debate with okeanix about re zero, would be such a clown fiesta from both sides.

I already proved that every take of ThatAnimeSnob about Re:Zero is objectively wrong.
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Same thing with many local websites of my country too. Btw wasnt okeanix saying like 4 months ago that when re zero comes it will take number 1 spot and frieren will already have a score below 9. He also said that his predictions are always correct, why is he now saying ratings dont matter anymore, i wonder what happened.

1- Re:Zero Season 3 is not out yet.
2- I said Frieren's score would go lower every month, and it did go lower, just a little slower than I expected because the anime community is dead. The 414k votes that Frieren has are really low; it needs at least 1 million.

How much would i give to see someone like thatanimesnob to have a debate with okeanix about re zero, would be such a clown fiesta from both sides.

I already proved that every take of ThatAnimeSnob about Re:Zero is objectively wrong.
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Re:Zero Season 3 is not out yet.
ohoho so it will beat frieren, got ya.
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I said Frieren's score would go lower every month, and it did go lower, just a little slower than I expected because the anime community is dead. The 414k votes that Frieren has are really low; it needs at least 1 million.
Ye im pretty sure you said way more than just that. 1 million? You want frieren to have around the same ammount of votes like steins gate? That gonna take like a decade and that has nothing to do with muh anime community is dead.
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I already proved that every take of ThatAnimeSnob about Re:Zero is objectively wrong.
Oh im sure you did
Jun 4, 2024 12:47 PM

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i love the drama here.
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Cielord said:
i love the drama here.

And so it begins🤣
Jun 4, 2024 12:50 PM
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Cielord said:
i love the drama here.

Honestly same man. I don’t give a shit about this stupid drama about Frieran, but I’ll pull out some popcorn and watch the fireworks fly.

@Okeanix Get em brother 🍿🍿🍿
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kanarazukarasu said:
Interestingly, these websites' user bases all show different tastes in anime, but they all somehow agree on the same top 1.


Some kind of conspiracy going on?
Jun 4, 2024 1:11 PM

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Sports_Friday said:
Frieren fans on their way to becoming the new FMAB fans lol. But it's good you are happy

I don't know about that, while Frieren fan fight the criticism it gets for being a new series and getting the top spot. FMA fights every anime that's gets a better score than them.

True Frieren fans seem less rabid with the score thing which I will commend them for.

Dick riding it for being the top anime on every website feels hella corny though, like people take scores too seriously
Jun 4, 2024 1:48 PM

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Haters malding right now
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Sports_Friday said:
Frieren fans on their way to becoming the new FMAB fans lol. But it's good you are happy

I don't know about that, while Frieren fan fight the criticism it gets for being a new series and getting the top spot. FMA fights every anime that's gets a better score than them.

True Frieren fans seem less rabid with the score thing which I will commend them for.

Dick riding it for being the top anime on every website feels hella corny though, like people take scores too seriously
@Sports_Friday "dickriding" Lol I hope you're not talking about me as I'm just sharing something that I found interesting and worthy of praise.

Also Nippon TV mentioned Frieren being ranked 1st (and Apothecary Diaries being ranked 18th) on MAL in their yearly financial report, so the actual producers of the anime do take these scores seriously it would seem 🤷‍♂️

Jun 4, 2024 1:59 PM
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Yes, its well deserved. Its a masterpiece after all.
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It was like okay. It makes sense that it's up there, but I didn't like it anywhere near that much.
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@Sports_Friday "dickriding" Lol I hope you're not talking about me as I'm just sharing something that I found interesting and worthy of praise.

Also Nippon TV mentioned Frieren being ranked 1st (and Apothecary Diaries being ranked 18th) on MAL in their yearly financial report, so the actual producers of the anime do take these scores seriously it would seem 🤷‍♂️

@kanarazukarasu Sorry I'm not referencing you in particular but I still see it pretty commonly you know how it is with some fans
Jun 4, 2024 2:09 PM
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Mid as fuck, never understood the hype of this anime.
Jun 4, 2024 2:11 PM

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Really shows how a lot more women watch anime now.
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@kanarazukarasu Sorry I'm not referencing you in particular but I still see it pretty commonly you know how it is with some fans
@Sports_Friday Ah ok then, I misunderstood
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I think it's because the show caters to all kinds of tastes. Usually this would result in a sloppy amalgam with no clear direction,but here it is masterfully done in a way that everything makes sense. There are awesome battles when they need to be, there is wholesome slice of life that gives you that smiling chill feeling. There are jokes that are not overdone, there is romance, there are sad moments. Most importantly, the show respects every single second of the viewer's time with no unnecessary back and forth. Then of course comes the production merits. We got an optically and acoustically almost perfect product.

Frieren might be the closest thing we ever got to "Jack of all trades, master of ALL"
Jun 4, 2024 2:37 PM

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Someone payed off

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ITS THE GREATEST ANIME TO EVER BE CREATED
Jun 4, 2024 2:42 PM

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I generally rationalize it as men and women enjoying it although for different reasons. It is impossible to get rated high on average if you only focus on catering to 1 sex though I prefer lower rated anime for that reason. Top rated anime means it was safe enough to not offend any group. Kind of the gross corporate endgame of esg. It is appealing to the least common denominator.
Jun 4, 2024 2:53 PM
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this officially makes frieren the most overrated piece of media of all time
Jun 4, 2024 2:55 PM
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Just to add more salt to the usual "wounded"

Frieren won the Kodansha award recently (i know manga not anime related).

https://x.com/AniNewsAndFacts/status/1790423601067298842


Professionals in the industry vote for the award not the average block/ dumb and dumber on the net.
Jun 4, 2024 3:23 PM
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In my opinion I’m just glad something other than FMAB is #1 . Not because I hate the show, but It’s refreshing to get a new #1. Go Frieren.
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I like Frieren, but I still don’t understand the popularity. Other anime do the exact same thing but more. Is it just because there is an influx of tourists these days that want something tame, because let’s be honest nothing really happens in it, there is no "challenge" for the viewer
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JJMatoi said:
Re Zero could never

Yeah re zero is good but not for everyone
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_Yotsugi_ said:
JJMatoi said:
Re Zero could never

Yeah re zero is good but not for everyone

The first season even when it's good is not as great as the second.
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@Okeanix You’ve listed clichés as negative but in the same post listed that there is no foreshadowing, also as a negative. Use and overuse of foreshadowing is a common cliché, especially in Re Zero. I’d also like to say that using IQ as a measure of intelligence is highly flawed and there are plenty of research papers and entire books written about the subject if you would like to actually increase your own intelligence rather than belittle that of other people for subjective views.
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thas a wild achievement given how Frieren practically hasn't presented anything innovative, I guess this is the new standard for 2024 fans, nevertheless still a very flawless anime with no unlikable characters
Jun 4, 2024 4:16 PM

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Honestly an impressive achievement by itself.
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@Okeanix You’ve listed clichés as negative but in the same post listed that there is no foreshadowing, also as a negative. Use and overuse of foreshadowing is a common cliché, especially in Re Zero. I’d also like to say that using IQ as a measure of intelligence is highly flawed and there are plenty of research papers and entire books written about the subject if you would like to actually increase your own intelligence rather than belittle that of other people for subjective views.
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Re:Zero has
- Better Characters
- Better Story
- Better Arcs
- Better World
- Better Lore
- Better Execution
- Better Voice Acting
- Better Musics
- Better Drama
- Better Mystery
- Better Thriller
- Better Writing
- Better Power System even though it's not good explained in anime adaptation because MC lacks skill and has other problems.
- Better Depth
- Better Foreshadowings
- Better Callbacks
- Better Details
- Better Peaks (not single episode of Frieren even close to Re:Zero Ep15 or Ep18)
- More Unique

Frieren has better:
- Animation
- Adaptation

The problem with Re:Zero is that, even though it does everything much better than Frieren, not everyone can understand it. Re:Zero
is a very complex and well-written series that not everyone has the capacity to grasp, unlike shounens (Frieren, Demon Slayer, and such).

Shounens are always more liked compared to seinens. Re:Zero will never be higher rated than Frieren since 100% of people can understand Frieren, while Re:Zero is a very niche, complex series that requires patience and dedication.

They also call me a Mushoku Tensei hater, but Mushoku Tensei is much, much better than Frieren.
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Wow, what an achievememt. However, what will you actually get from this? Another moment of unproductivity with some numbers?
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Re Zero could never

Yeah re zero is good but not for everyone
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To get #1 Re Zero would have to replace Subaru with a pretty boy. Not going to happen despite me loving Re Zero. It is not tame enough to appeal to the lowest common denominator.
Jun 4, 2024 5:11 PM

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I don't know about other countries, but in mine, Frieren ranks first in the two largest anime websites, so the haters who say it's only MAL are wrong
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Wow, what an achievememt. However, what will you actually get from this? Another moment of unproductivity with some numbers?
what will he get out of it? nothing more than a million crybabies who will complain about Frieren having this place, ehh such things are more harmful xD
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Congrats Frieren✨
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Okeanix said:
Frieren is the most overrated anime of the decade, and the lack of a dedicated community for its source material is proof enough that this series only gained attention due to Madhouse's production, catering to casual viewers.

The author frequently goes on hiatus, seemingly unsure why this one-shot series even became successful.

People are watching something that was originally written as a one-shot and then extended to milk it as much as possible.

There are no foreshadowings, and the same dialogues between Himmel and Frieren are repeated throughout the entire series.

I recommend taking B12 for those with memory problems who don't realize how terrible this series is and suggest reading actual fantasy books instead.

I have read actual fantasy books - lord of the rings for example. I'm not gonna sit here and say frieren is the top anime of all time, but it's a good show. It deserves its recognition. Like the company's adventures in LOTR, the story thinks about what happens afterward. What happens after Sauron is defeated? Returning to a casual life and reminiscing. But a character outliving the whole party - seeing the entire rise and fall of evil, the impacts of just a few people on the world even decades later? It's a good concept.

The fantasy anime genre has been lacking a modern high fantasy setting that DOESNT include harems and fanservice. There are very few that actually take themselves seriously. The genre needed Frieren.

Frieren does a lot right. A logical magic system, characters with actual consistent personalities, world building. I can see it's flaws. There are repetitive scenes and moments. The biggest thing it does right is that it's a romance without being a romance. Frieren is only realizing decades later what her party members meant to her. It's teaching us to be present in the moment and enjoy every second. Also to pick up on hints.

Your reasoning for disliking the series seems pretty shallow. You should also recognize that your opinion isn't the end all be all, and being different doesn't make you quirky.
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9.36 is a crazy stat ngl.
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It was the right anime at the right time for sure overrated yes if this would’ve came out during jujutsu Kaisen season 2 run, you would hear nothing about it

it did come out during jjk s2's second cour.
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If you want an exciting and emotional story with beautiful relationships, watch “to your eternity.”


I rated both shows 10/10, but for me Frieren is in another class, way above all other 10/10 animes I watched. And the ridiculously high score cannot be explained with "production value" as many other top animes have that. And it cannot be explained with "it caters to everyone" cause Frieren has a lot of annoying characters and it has plot holes etc,etc,etc.

The MC in your eternity is doesn't really have an easily identifiable character. The relationships are beautiful indeed, but they are not really the "mc".

Frieren on the other hand is a very fresh, endearing, and captivating MC. And I suspect everyone who loves the show has fallen in love with her so hard that they watch the anime with "love goggles".

So I can totally understand the ridiculously high ratings, cause for me Frieren is Über Alles!
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Wish I had as much patience and dedication as Okeanix to hate/praise something like he does with Frieren and Re:Zero.
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