Code Geass - Hangyaku no Lelouch Episode 25 Discussion

@JeremiahOrange

Lelouch should have either killed suzaku earlier on or used his geass on him to remove him from the board and give him a better life outside the military with Euphy as a "king takes knight" move. There's no fucking way they would know some random girl like nunnally would be the thing lelouch would throw the easy win he had for. Losses happen in war and its even shown in the same episode when the black knights lose their friends and family because this dumbass commander just has to run off to some random island and not send a strike team to go save her in case of this very contingency.


But then again its dumbass anime. "KYUTE GURL" *shows fanservice in random japanese high school* > actual writing and character development
They could have committed to being anime star wars with Geass being their equivalent to the force or committed to gritty realism, but instead opted to go full retard with fanservice and random japanese high school as the focus instead. It didn't get much better with akito, the move to a now failed anime gacha, and the gypsies political agenda shit that sank the franchise even further than R2 did. Is it like an unspoken law to add japanese high school to everything in anime?

If you want code geass but actually good, I'd recommend ARMORED TROOPER VOTOMS over this. The mechs aren't as cool or stupidly OP as most knightmares but they are functionally similar and the plot isn't focused on high school. There are actual military guerilla tactics even in the spinoffs and its gritty realism + soap opera done right. Its everything code geass is a pale imitation of done 20 years earlier. Minus superpowers like Geass and focused more on science fiction around the aftermath of an interplanetary war between two planets.

@XF_Zero

ledouche is not completely logical and perfect tbh. and u r right, he needed to have handled suzaku better, but lelouch is too emotional to use his first friend like that. or atleast was.

and yeah, lelouch is a siscon, thats why he couldnt entrust his troops for savin nunnally, that and fact that everyone is focused on gettin japan back, noway they be goin towards some island in middle of nowhere to fight enemy who irrelevant when they do be facin their own problem.

and it become reason why he lose war, but ledouche has no other option coz nunnally is his raison d'etre. without her, no use liberating britannia.



ye it looks bit contrived, but the dwarf who kidnapped nunnally was same guy when suzaku was stuck in geaass island with kallen and ledouche+euphy, he may have had some hand in things, not to mention he happen to know lot more about euphy death by geass for some reason..




I see your point, i agree with this pretty much. while i am rewatching this yeah, fanservice is a bit too distracting, to point it is pretty much ecchi territory, and lot of anime not just code geass put too much emphasis on cute girl/fanservice aspect over characters. plot gets a bit nonsensical at times, for me i could live with it, but i understand why u may not for code geass, coz i felt same when watching other anime.

for me only few anime made character development and writing work, and i wouldnt say code geass is pinnacle of it, id say it falls on the A- side.
There are way too many plotlines to keep count and some of them can be stripped or reordered in better fashion, and lots of arcs of character development do sometimes hit big snags only to be brought back without warning.
i myself mostly i like it for the nostalgia, entertainment on mind game and drama part. and that too only this and r2, not the ones that came after 2009 by any aspect.

I appreciate the recommendation highly, thanks for it btw.

Yeah, I don’t really care for mecha either but I still enjoyed this anime a lot! Very interesting to see Lulu’s character development.