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Jan 12, 2010 9:05 AM

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"Oh Hey! You're a girl." and "Grope-worthy".. Can't really decide, I like them both equally. (:
Jan 12, 2010 9:45 AM

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I like all kinds of boobs...

Jan 12, 2010 10:37 AM

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Pelsia said:
This thread fits in perfectly to a question that's been nagging me: Do ALL women in Japan have small or are tsurupettan?

Errr....Uhhhh...what? I'm gonna treat this post seriously and assume you've seen very few idols. I was confused because people usually mean such statements as a joke. Much like they do with the Asian guy jokes.

There do seem to be a higher amount of flat chested East Asian women on average, for whatever reason. However there are definitely quite a few busty ones. And sadly, for the average woman and the straight male and lesbian fan of flat chested women both, hardly any of the flat ones are allowed into the idol industry.

And by idols that's not just gravure, there's a bias in favor of singing idols such as Maki Goto with larger breasts.

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I understand the libido and that bigger is generally better;

I personally am opposed to the "bigger is better" standard.
For me, smaller is better. Don't give the standard leeway if you don't believe in it.

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As a girl I find it repulsive to see such outrageously enormous ones, is this really what turns guys on now?

That's what the culture of breast fetishism tries to make men think and while homosexual and heterosexuality is at least half nature in origin, I think that nurture has a heavy effect on sexuality too. And I'm willing to bet breast tastes have more to do with nurture(id est, culture) than biology.

The logic seems to run like this: breasts are feminine and flat is masculine. And heterosexual men's desires are more important that everyone else's. And heterosexual men need to like women who look like women and not something on the more queer and deviant side. So bigger is better. Big breasts and beautiful and small chests are not because the feminine is beautiful and the masculine is not. And the standard that has created this, of breast fetishism of society for women and the feminine and not men, is what causes the taboo that women should not go topless in public while men can.

And it's not just perpetuated by men but some women as well as it is a cultural thing I believe. If topfree became the norm, there would not be a continuing sexual harassment of women, culture would eventually change and the taboo would be released. Men would view it as similar to looking at women's exposed thighs.

If more people challenged the "bigger is better" notion, there would be less breast enlargement surgeries. And a more masculine chest, including men's chests, would be more catered to and thought about, I believe. There wouldn't be a strong bias towards the feminine size and bias against the masculine size.

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More and more anime that I watch the bust sizes only keep going up.

Actually I think when loli rode the bishoujo trend and became moe, there was a surge of mainstream characters influenced by this to some degree. Including those who were not short, such as Nagi from Kannagi. So it was up with Gainaxing in the past and has now saw a slight downtime.

Now I worry it will go up again and we're entering an era of larger breasts and "bigger is better" again because the industry is starting to slightly scare and back away from the flat chest representation and fandom. Which may either have to inventively shed the moe movement which it rode in the first place or indeed fade. Just my predictions about where aesthetics are going.

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Do you think that the way breasts are sized in anime is influenced more by consumer desires or the artist's desire (granted, its a combo of both irl)?

A combination of both.
The mangaka pretty well has the final say on the aesthetics of a character aside from fanart. But the aesthetics of things in animation or outside do tend to affect the values of society at the time. The majority of consumers do indeed like larger breasts and were raised upon the notion that bigger is better and that women should seem as womanly as possible. And thus you see this in the products of supply and demand.

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Jan 12, 2010 10:41 AM

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i like them like maxi mounds 62 MMM. i haven't seen an anime character to topple such feat.
Jan 12, 2010 1:01 PM

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Lol you didn't have to type an essay for that. All you need is a comparison since you're explaining a gender's feeling to the other gender.

Men liking big boobs is like women liking big muscular guys.

I think flipped side of the coin reflects pretty well with that in terms of thought patterns.

Do all guys like huge breasts? No.
Do all girls like huge muscles? No.
Jan 12, 2010 1:19 PM

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Lol you didn't have to type an essay for that.

Sigh, I can't please the mods when I post relaxedly, and I can't please the users when I post seriously.
I felt like typing all that out. Nobody has to read what they find tl;dr in the end.
Again I just felt like it, if you don't feel up to it, don't worry about it.

Day2Dream said:
Do all guys like huge breasts? No.
Do all girls like huge muscles? No.

Except I don't think that comparison is perfect. Especially considering that person I don't think is stereotyping all guys as liking larger breasts(the poll itself is proof there is a significant minority who don't).

But comparing the standard of men's masculinity and muscle tone and women's isn't by any means itself a bad comparison I don't think. Although I tend to believe muscle form slightly less androgyny creating that chestform, though now that I think about it it's quite close and I could actually be wrong on that.

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ukonkivi said:

Sigh, I can't please the mods when I post relaxedly, and I can't please the users when I post seriously.
I felt like typing all that out. Nobody has to read what they find tl;dr in the end.
Again I just felt like it, if you don't feel up to it, don't worry about it.



You go on ahead write what you like, my friend. I'm not one to deter a valid well thought out opinion.


Although I will mention to those that are not satisfied with my placing Kyou and Siesta in the same category, I totally felt like their breast sizes were similar... it may be the fact, with the 2nd and 3rd seasons of ZnT, the emphasis on fanservice compared to the 1st season made her breasts stand out more especially since she was a running gag whenever pettanko Lousie was around. I could have mentioned any other girl for this category... It's just the first thing that came to mind... that is all.
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Only fanservice breasts I've ever enjoyed in anime belonged to Yoko.



Other than her, I like DFCs or average sized stuff. Evenly proportioned, decently clothed girls are my fetish ._.
Jan 12, 2010 2:28 PM

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@ukonkivi Thanks for a honest answer. One thing I should've said upfront but escaped me, I've never taken the opportunity to travel to Japan. Have traveled to Europe several times but no where in the east so far. Unlike (its feels to me) most people I have very little interest in jpop or idols; the only group of people related to anime production I have interest in are the animators.

One of my hobbies is collecting artwork, so seeking out and talking with the character designers/directors are the only kinds of people I come into contact with, only on a few occasions has it been a female (off top of the head only ones that come to mind quick are Kazuko Tadano and Naoko Takeuchi). All the ones I've met draw everything proportionally correct, only using the extreme side one way or the other when it has a real reason. When the size grows beyond a handful is when it really starts to disgust me. Having large breasts is fine, its when they grow to the size of soccer ball or larger that it seems too unnatural and foul.
Jan 12, 2010 2:46 PM
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From this size:


To this size:


Anything between is fine.
Jan 12, 2010 2:49 PM

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I like DFC and TOO FUCKING BIG.

I find myself fapping to one of the two, and never in between.

My two favorite tags on gelbooru are: loli and huge_breasts(and the only reason why it's not gigantic_breasts is because there's only around 6-7 pages of pictures :( )


Jan 12, 2010 3:38 PM

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Sometimes less is more.

Jan 12, 2010 3:52 PM

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Pumpernikkeli said:
Sometimes less is more.

"But if less is more, how you're keeping score?" (c)
Jan 12, 2010 4:18 PM

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Day2Dream said:
Psajdak said:
When a flat chested girl hugs you, she's holding you closer to her heart.

Wow. Good excuse for flat chest people.


It is not an excuse! It is a fact! :D

I have a soft spot for pettanko characters, but I also like anything up to grope-worthy. Anything bigger than that and boobs start looking ridiculously grotesque and unattractive. :<


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Jan 12, 2010 6:20 PM
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DFC
Jan 12, 2010 6:41 PM

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tehnominator said:
Only fanservice breasts I've ever enjoyed in anime belonged to Yoko.



Other than her, I like DFCs or average sized stuff. Evenly proportioned, decently clothed girls are my fetish ._.
Very nice.

And I think complete flat chests are pretty rare in East Asia. They have some proportions, but I guess, either due to certain lack of nutrients to improve their physique (maybe also an explanation why Asians on average are shorter than Westerners?), or not proper use of wearing bras? Hmm.
Jan 12, 2010 7:35 PM

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CanadaAotS said:
REAL MEN LOVE BREASTS OF ALL SIZES!

^ This.

Typically, I don't care but it's just disturbing when a girl has ginormous boobs that aren't proportional. A teenage girl with an skinny body shouldn't have boobs bigger than her head.
Jan 12, 2010 8:13 PM

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dmneyeskyo said:
Most of the character from Queen's Blade are far too large for my own tastes, although I'm not really into flat chests either. For me a C or D is where it is all at.


This is practically my thoughts on the issue.

And for those who learn through pics:

Jan 12, 2010 8:27 PM

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This is one of my favorite.
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Jan 12, 2010 8:28 PM

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This thread needs more Yoko.
Jan 12, 2010 8:29 PM

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Boobs? What boobs? - Grope worthy.

Boobs don't make a women sexy. They have to have the right figure to go with it.
Jan 12, 2010 11:20 PM

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I was looking for anime breast comparison chart or something and i came across these:


Lucky Star




Strike Witches



and K-On




not sure if the boobs are all different size.. they all seem like small boob characters to me.
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Tachii said:
This thread needs more Yoko.

Every thread needs more Yoko
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MashedTater said:
CanadaAotS said:
REAL MEN LOVE BREASTS OF ALL SIZES!

^ This.

Typically, I don't care but it's just disturbing when a girl has ginormous boobs that aren't proportional. A teenage girl with an skinny body shouldn't have boobs bigger than her head.


actually they should, unfortunately they just don't. hopefully, science will one day find a cure.
and that leads me to my vote: Ikkitousen, etc. boobs are sweet. and this thread needs more.
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Jan 13, 2010 12:32 AM

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I like something I could squeeze onto thank you very much. The size that doesn't distract you from a girls hips.

Maybe rangiku would be my exception though.
Jan 13, 2010 1:11 AM

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autisticanime said:
I like something I could squeeze onto thank you very much. The size that doesn't distract you from a girls hips.


Good catch there ^^

C or D size are fine and plenty for a handful. It's when it takes two hands to handle them, or the woman can squeeze your entire head into her cleavage that it gets distracting. I see more of the latter being more of the case now compared to ten or even just five years ago.

So frequently now I run across a great piece of cg art or traditional media, only to have the girl's rack be a DD or EE. While larger breasts allow you to do certain things that absolutely won't work with a tsurupettan or overall dfc, these huge sizes are going overboard; you plan to use one as a bean bag to sit on while you use your PS3?
Jan 13, 2010 5:52 AM

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I like Oh Hey! You're a girl. all the way to Air bags will be deployed in case of emergency. You might as well be looking at a guy if you like flat chests. There are natural big breasted women like Tiffania for example Hitomi Tanaka and Rachel Aldana .
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ukonkivi said:
Sigh, I can't please the mods when I post relaxedly, and I can't please the users when I post seriously.
I felt like typing all that out. Nobody has to read what they find tl;dr in the end.
Again I just felt like it, if you don't feel up to it, don't worry about it.

No no. I just felt your point of view could be shorten for the lazy readers. Wasn't complaining about it. Once again sarcasm has failed me on the internet >_>.

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I like Oh Hey! You're a girl. all the way to Air bags will be deployed in case of emergency. You might as well be looking at a guy if you like flat chests. There are natural big breasted women like Tiffania for example Hitomi Tanaka and Rachel Aldana .

Where flat chest lose in boob size they win in cuteness.
Jan 13, 2010 8:28 AM

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@above:Straight shooter,bud.Flat chest girls definitely wins in cuteness X3

Then again,it's really difficult to choose.......Aah,heaven with it.I WANT ALL!!!As long they're cute(and don't mind getting a pat on their head ;P)
Jan 13, 2010 9:11 AM

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2>1=3>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>4

Kind of. As others have said, the most important part is the proportion to the rest of the body and figure.
Jan 13, 2010 10:30 AM

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DFC and slightly bigger breasts are win. Te bigger they get, the less turned on I'll be to the point where huge, bouncy boonbs disgust me.
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Jan 13, 2010 10:31 AM

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Shawndono said:

This is one of my favorite.

I'm not attracted to this at all. And by that, I mean more than just I prefer flat chests even when large tits are staring me in the face.
But does anyone find this pair of boobs badly drawn, moreso than some other pairs of large breasts? Something about them(other than being massive), seems wrong and off somehow. Maybe it's just me and my non-enjoyment of large is clouding my other senses.

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Tachii said:


And I think complete flat chests are pretty rare in East Asia. They have some proportions, but I guess, either due to certain lack of nutrients to improve their physique (maybe also an explanation why Asians on average are shorter than Westerners?), or not proper use of wearing bras? Hmm.


The majority of Asian females(at least in my region) are "Oh Hey! You're a girl.", though it's not so rare to find "grope wothy" ones here and there.


ukonkivi said:
Shawndono said:

This is one of my favorite.

I'm not attracted to this at all. And by that, I mean more than just I prefer flat chests even when large tits are staring me in the face.
But does anyone find this pair of boobs badly drawn, moreso than some other pairs of large breasts? Something about them(other than being massive), seems wrong and off somehow. Maybe it's just me and my non-enjoyment of large is clouding my other senses.


Her bra is completely gurren lagann. Though I won't call her breasts small, they are still not as large as air bags. Maybe somewhere in between option 3 and 4. Actually, I see them more like grope worthy.
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Jan 13, 2010 12:12 PM

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I really dont like to watch animes where there boobs are so big they slap em in the face when they run. XD XD I think they should stick with just average or a little above.. DD or something at the most. Idk.. I dont mind all to much. XD
Jan 13, 2010 12:14 PM

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Grope worthy

I am perfectly fine with 32 dds. I despise anything above that.
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TAB said:
And I thought it was some picture of a girl in that spoiler. Disappointed.
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Tachii said:
TAB said:
And I thought it was some picture of a girl in that spoiler. Disappointed.

lol, +1! :)
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-Freedom_Gunboy- said:
Her bra is completely gurren lagann.

You mean there isn't any problem with the shape or maybe the cleavage lines?
I guess it must really be my imagination, then.

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ukonkivi said:
-Freedom_Gunboy- said:
Her bra is completely gurren lagann.

You mean there isn't any problem with the shape or maybe the cleavage lines?
I guess it must really be my imagination, then.


No, there aren't any problems really. IMO, her TTGL bra design on top of her seemingly juicy boobs(i m not so sure since I cannot suck her nips anyway) makes it more eye appeasing, and thus more appealing. And as for proportions, though her boobs seem a little bit unproportional, they are not ridiculously out of ratio or air bags anyway.
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So then it would just appear that I find tits unappealing and fan disservice to the point I can't even tell if it's badly drawn breasts or not. You know very well I'm not talking about size.

It honestly seems like you that's not on your mind though. So I can simply make this go back to be proclaiming the inverse of your and your part. That flat chests are more appealing.

I tried to remove myself from my pro-DFC bias. Lord knows I had to on Doujinstyle or I'd end up getting banned again eventually.
But we can just have the usual I suppose.

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Can't we all just get boob, I mean along...
Anyways I do prefer lolis and large, but not BB: over medium.
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Jan 13, 2010 4:07 PM

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DFCs make me happy. Buuut I'll go up to between grope-worthy and airbags. If they're bigger than her head, then keep them away from me.
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Yeah, I already got that boob thing down, so it doesn't really matter for me.
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ukonkivi said:
So then it would just appear that I find tits unappealing and fan disservice to the point I can't even tell if it's badly drawn breasts or not. You know very well I'm not talking about size.

It honestly seems like you that's not on your mind though. So I can simply make this go back to be proclaiming the inverse of your and your part. That flat chests are more appealing.

I tried to remove myself from my pro-DFC bias. Lord knows I had to on Doujinstyle or I'd end up getting banned again eventually.
But we can just have the usual I suppose.


No, nonono. They're very badly drawn in that picture. I know anime is stylized, but boobs aren't supposed to look like that, and if they do, it looks wrong and freaky. The other picture looked better. Here, it looks like she has water balloons plastered to her chest, which does not match the density of boobs by a longshot.

I will repeat this, I like big boobs too, and that picture IMO doesn't do them justice. >.>


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i prefer DFC (Manabi) but grope worthy is fine too(Yoshida Kazumi).
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2>1>3>4 for me
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Small/flat.

Big breasts are alright, depending on the character. But generally I don't care for them.
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All are fine, but when they're overly big, then they just come off to me as fake.
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AlexisSolitaire said:
All are fine, but when they're overly big, then they just come off to me as fake.


As if anime tits are real to begin with... HoHoHoHoHO (conceited rich girl laugh)
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