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Feb 13, 2010 3:51 AM

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Rail_Tracer said:
Nope, Umineko Chiru is due for a summer 2010 release. Can't wait!


Need trustworthy source on this. ( looks a bit early to animate Chiru)
Feb 13, 2010 7:08 AM
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If Chiru is animated, I can't wait to see the bitter tears of anime-only watchers who claimed nothing important was ever cut when none of the characters' actions make sense with what was shown of them in the first season.
Feb 13, 2010 9:37 AM

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crystalweaver said:
If Chiru is animated, I can't wait to see the bitter tears of anime-only watchers who claimed nothing important was ever cut when none of the characters' actions make sense with what was shown of them in the first season.


They will probably think that Battler and Beato are OOC.
Feb 14, 2010 2:41 AM
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Tibba said:
As far as I'm aware, DEEN's already got rights to Chiru

Can you give a link to the page on this screencap?
Feb 14, 2010 3:07 AM

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LOL that's fake. Look at the Kuroshitsuji pic. That's the first season. I know because the second season does NOT feature Sebastian and Ciel. ROTFL @ fail

Oh yes allow me to drive another stake into your theory.
EP6 of the VN came out last year on Dec 30. This means that the next EP will come out in summer this year around the time this Supposed Anime is scheduled to start. There is no material for a second season yet, therefore a second season is impossible to make this year IF EVER

That is unless they go for filler which would be a waste of the little money they earned from season 1
Actually they would need a filler season to fix the gaping hole in Beato and Battler's character.

Oh I can already see it. it all takes place in the metaworld with various nonsensical scenarios and during that time Battler and Beato grow slightly more kind to one another *commits seppuku with the 7 sisters*
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Darklight0303 said:

That is unless they go for filler which would be a waste of the little money they earned from season 1
Actually they would need a filler season to fix the gaping hole in Beato and Battler's character.


Or a serie of OVAs with the obligatory beach/ hot springs episode filled with fanservice, the stakes valentine + Beatrice white day.
Feb 14, 2010 4:19 AM

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Ugh MORE fanservice?!? *cries*
Though I guess that works, still last I heard they were going to make those two tips into Audio Dramas.


Then again those two side stories would make Anime only watchers go even more "WTF"

Also you can't call that Chiru since it's completely unrelated to the main plot. >_>
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Feb 14, 2010 4:34 AM

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I was like, joking, you know. I'm just waiting for EP7 to be released...in 6 months.
Feb 14, 2010 4:35 AM

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I know I was just going along with it :P

Indeed 6 months till the next epic piece of the puzzle. Though I am willing to bet it won't be the last one >_>
Feb 14, 2010 4:44 AM

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Darklight0303 said:
Though I am willing to bet it won't be the last one >_>

Same here. Ryu won't be able to tie up all the loose ends in 1 EP.
Feb 14, 2010 5:02 AM

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Feb 14, 2010 11:42 AM

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Darklight0303 said:
LOL that's fake. Look at the Kuroshitsuji pic. That's the first season. I know because the second season does NOT feature Sebastian and Ciel. ROTFL @ fail


It would be logical for them to use that image if designs for the two new characters haven't been released yet. I know I haven't seen any promotional stuff for it yet, so it really isn't that farfetched.

In the panel before the Chiru panel, there's a screen with some Japanese text pointing to towards Chiru. I wonder if that has any relevance.

The only way I can think Chiru would be good for Summer '10 would be if they didn't did it based on EP5 and 6 only, which would be a pretty good thing in my opinion, because they could pack more content into there. I might be too risky for them to do that, though, what with the low reception of the anime, though *shrugs*
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Feb 14, 2010 11:44 AM

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Darklight0303 said:
LOL that's fake. Look at the Kuroshitsuji pic. That's the first season. I know because the second season does NOT feature Sebastian and Ciel. ROTFL @ fail


It would be logical for them to use that image if designs for the two new characters haven't been released yet. I know I haven't seen any promotional stuff for it yet, so it really isn't that farfetched.

In the panel before the Chiru panel, there's a screen with some Japanese text pointing to towards Chiru. I wonder if that has any relevance.

The only way I can think Chiru would be good for Summer '10 would be if they didn't did it based on EP5 and 6 only, which would be a pretty good thing in my opinion, because they could pack more content into there. I might be too risky for them to do that, though, what with the low reception of the anime *shrugs*
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Feb 14, 2010 1:22 PM

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Tibba said:
Darklight0303 said:
LOL that's fake. Look at the Kuroshitsuji pic. That's the first season. I know because the second season does NOT feature Sebastian and Ciel. ROTFL @ fail


It would be logical for them to use that image if designs for the two new characters haven't been released yet. I know I haven't seen any promotional stuff for it yet, so it really isn't that farfetched.


Sorry to break it to you but the designs have been released

Darklight0303Feb 14, 2010 2:43 PM
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Ack! Only other thing I can think of is if that page was created before those designs were released. Otherwise, it's probably fake.

Thank you for those pics, by the way.
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Feb 14, 2010 9:05 PM

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Fake? Ah well.
It's too early to say if DEEN will or will not animate chiru. It is just a rumor that since the dvd sales are low, deen won't animate chiru. My guess is that an animated adaptation will air possibly in the Summer-Fall 2011 season.

BTW, IMO the Chiru VN is absolutely horrible. It's not just the artwork thats horrific, it's the overall story that's an abomination. Probably the most overrated visual novels I've encountered. Ep 6 gets even worse. (Even more useless characters?) So now that I think about it, I won't mind if deen actually animates it or not.
Feb 15, 2010 2:59 AM

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Rail_Tracer said:

Nope, Umineko Chiru is due for a summer 2010 release. Can't wait!


Rail_Tracer said:

BTW, IMO the Chiru VN is absolutely horrible. It's not just the artwork thats horrific, it's the overall story that's an abomination. Probably the most overrated visual novels I've encountered. Ep 6 gets even worse. (Even more useless characters?) So now that I think about it, I won't mind if deen actually animates it or not.


Nice flip-flop here.
Feb 15, 2010 9:27 AM

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dioptase said:
Rail_Tracer said:

Nope, Umineko Chiru is due for a summer 2010 release. Can't wait!


Rail_Tracer said:

BTW, IMO the Chiru VN is absolutely horrible. It's not just the artwork thats horrific, it's the overall story that's an abomination. Probably the most overrated visual novels I've encountered. Ep 6 gets even worse. (Even more useless characters?) So now that I think about it, I won't mind if deen actually animates it or not.


Nice flip-flop here.


Notice when I say "Now that I think about it"

I saw some Chiru vids on youtube last night (mostly the end of EP 5) and realized that Chiru is absolute crap.
Feb 15, 2010 12:49 PM

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Rail_Tracer said:

I saw some Chiru vids on youtube last night (mostly the end of EP 5) and realized that Chiru is absolute crap.


Wait wait, you are reading Chiru on youtube?
Maybe you should read the whole episode before judging it, don't you think ?
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Don't worry Rail_Tracer. DEEN will fix up Chiru by removing all the yucky Battler/Beato scenes! All hail DEEN. They sure know how to take a crappy source material and make it awesome and full of colorful characterization.
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dioptase said:
Rail_Tracer said:

I saw some Chiru vids on youtube last night (mostly the end of EP 5) and realized that Chiru is absolute crap.


Wait wait, you are reading Chiru on youtube?
Maybe you should read the whole episode before judging it, don't you think ?

Thank you for saying what I was going to Dioptase. Honestly you have no right to judge anything by watching something in pieces and second hand such as watching the few scenes uploaded on youtube. Just as most of the western fans have no right to judge EP 6 based only on the spoilers
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Darklight0303 said:
dioptase said:
Rail_Tracer said:

I saw some Chiru vids on youtube last night (mostly the end of EP 5) and realized that Chiru is absolute crap.


Wait wait, you are reading Chiru on youtube?
Maybe you should read the whole episode before judging it, don't you think ?

Thank you for saying what I was going to Dioptase. Honestly you have no right to judge anything by watching something in pieces and second hand such as watching the few scenes uploaded on youtube. Just as most of the western fans have no right to judge EP 6 based only on the spoilers


This guy pretty much uploads almost all of EP 5 ya know.

http://www.youtube.com/user/HiyoriTamura92

and if he's missing a scene I could just search it up and find it instantly.
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crystalweaver said:
Don't worry Rail_Tracer. DEEN will fix up Chiru by removing all the yucky Battler/Beato scenes! All hail DEEN. They sure know how to take a crappy source material and make it awesome and full of colorful characterization.


You have no right in saying DEEN will do a good job or a bad job in Chiru without even watching a single preview. Look at Higurashi. According to VN-readers DEEN didn't do so well in the first season of Higurashi but in Higurashi kai (2nd season) they covered a lot of scenes and even VN-readers liked it a lot. So it might do good, might not.
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Rail_Tracer said:
You have no right in saying DEEN will do a good job or a bad job in Chiru without even watching a single preview. Look at Higurashi. According to VN-readers DEEN didn't do so well in the first season of Higurashi but in Higurashi kai (2nd season) they covered a lot of scenes and even VN-readers liked it a lot. So it might do good, might not.


PROTIP: I was making fun of you, not DEEN.
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crystalweaver said:
Rail_Tracer said:
You have no right in saying DEEN will do a good job or a bad job in Chiru without even watching a single preview. Look at Higurashi. According to VN-readers DEEN didn't do so well in the first season of Higurashi but in Higurashi kai (2nd season) they covered a lot of scenes and even VN-readers liked it a lot. So it might do good, might not.


PROTIP: I was making fun of you, not DEEN.

I could tell
Feb 17, 2010 12:16 PM

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crystalweaver said:
Rail_Tracer said:
You have no right in saying DEEN will do a good job or a bad job in Chiru without even watching a single preview. Look at Higurashi. According to VN-readers DEEN didn't do so well in the first season of Higurashi but in Higurashi kai (2nd season) they covered a lot of scenes and even VN-readers liked it a lot. So it might do good, might not.


PROTIP: I was making fun of you, not DEEN.


You wasn't? What was with the sarcasm then?
Feb 17, 2010 10:48 PM
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Oh look, people are still trying to justify the anime
Just read the VN already, bro. How hard is it? Reading it on youtube doesn't count.

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Suspicion.
Core.
FINAL DESTINATION.
Feb 18, 2010 12:13 PM

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Denwa said:
Oh look, people are still trying to justify the anime
Just read the VN already, bro. How hard is it? Reading it on youtube doesn't count.



What the hell?

So if I see a full movie on youtube it doesn't count? It's like I never watched it?

I did read (part) the VN. I read it on youtube, so what? Look at this channel

http://www.youtube.com/user/HiyoriTamura92

This guy uploaded possibly the whole Ep 5. If he left some parts, I do a search and I find it. Why should I download something like that when I can watch the same exact thing on youtube?

Not everybody thinks your little VN is so amazing. Some people actually like the anime, and if you don't, just don't watch it. It's as simple as that. Nobody wants to hear your constant whining in every episode discussion saying how much the VN is so wonderful and how much they "ruined" the anime adaptation.
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Rail_tracer, dioptase, and Tibba stop doubleposting, and better yet, edit together your posts. I would have done it for you without comment normally, but my net is a bitch so that'd take a fair time, something I'd rather not.

I suppose I will have to once my net works because no one cares about the rules.

Rail_Tracer said:
It's too early to say if DEEN will or will not animate chiru. It is just a rumor that since the dvd sales are low, deen won't animate chiru. My guess is that an animated adaptation will air possibly in the Summer-Fall 2011 season.

Again, why on Earth would they? They can't earn money, they are definitely not doing anything for art, and eventual legal issues seem quite inconsequential.

Guesses must be founded on things. Why do you think they'll make one? Why do you think it'll be that season? You need reasons for thinking those things. Just making things up is a good pointer to your stance being one that should be abandoned.

Also, your every single post is complaining about VN players complaining and how we should not. Now, I don't normally mind complaining, but:
1) This is hypocrisy.
2) We are allowed to see whatever we wish, and say whatever we wish about it. Why are you reading what we write, you can ignore it? No one forces you to read our 26 posts.
3) In my mind, the desecration of Umineko perpetrated by DEEN justifies the greatest possible desecration, mockery, insult, and incisive critique in turn, of the horridly vacuous, talentless, and offensively acanonical aforementioned lack of effort these hacks and art-criminals put into their bullshit.

Or in less gloriosu and more easily parsed syntax, us pointing out their incompetence is hardly a fault. Why is pointing out bad things such an unacceptable thing about art? Why must one praise? If one sees error, one shall rectify.

And, we have actually given perfectly good reasons for our stance - that is, DEENs adaption is anti-art in the worst possible way - while I have not seen you defend your position that the anime is good, or that Tiru is not so. Note "good", one cannot account for likes or dislikes, one can account for assessment of quality.
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Kaiserpingvin said:
Rail_tracer, dioptase, and Tibba stop doubleposting, and better yet, edit together your posts. I would have done it for you without comment normally, but my net is a bitch so that'd take a fair time, something I'd rather not.

I suppose I will have to once my net works because no one cares about the rules.

Rail_Tracer said:
It's too early to say if DEEN will or will not animate chiru. It is just a rumor that since the dvd sales are low, deen won't animate chiru. My guess is that an animated adaptation will air possibly in the Summer-Fall 2011 season.

Again, why on Earth would they? They can't earn money, they are definitely not doing anything for art, and eventual legal issues seem quite inconsequential.

Guesses must be founded on things. Why do you think they'll make one? Why do you think it'll be that season? You need reasons for thinking those things. Just making things up is a good pointer to your stance being one that should be abandoned.

Also, your every single post is complaining about VN players complaining and how we should not. Now, I don't normally mind complaining, but:
1) This is hypocrisy.
2) We are allowed to see whatever we wish, and say whatever we wish about it. Why are you reading what we write, you can ignore it? No one forces you to read our 26 posts.
3) In my mind, the desecration of Umineko perpetrated by DEEN justifies the greatest possible desecration, mockery, insult, and incisive critique in turn, of the horridly vacuous, talentless, and offensively acanonical aforementioned lack of effort these hacks and art-criminals put into their bullshit.

Or in less gloriosu and more easily parsed syntax, us pointing out their incompetence is hardly a fault. Why is pointing out bad things such an unacceptable thing about art? Why must one praise? If one sees error, one shall rectify.

And, we have actually given perfectly good reasons for our stance - that is, DEENs adaption is anti-art in the worst possible way - while I have not seen you defend your position that the anime is good, or that Tiru is not so. Note "good", one cannot account for likes or dislikes, one can account for assessment of quality.

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Personally I think the VN is much better than the Anime.... though it does have it's boring parts. You learn a lot though.
Feb 25, 2010 9:57 PM

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WTF happened? Sorry i dont play the VN or read the manga...is there gonna be a 2nd season or what? Someone wanna feel me in either on here or pm please o.O
Feb 25, 2010 11:48 PM

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xl3lueazndragonx said:
WTF happened? Sorry i dont play the VN or read the manga...is there gonna be a 2nd season or what? Someone wanna feel me in either on here or pm please o.O


Yeah, only the 1st half of the story has been animated. If there's a 2nd season, it won't be before 2011.
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that pic has been discussed and it's most likely a fake
Mar 26, 2010 7:14 AM
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Lets hope its fake..
Oh btw HONESTLY anyone who hated end of the golden witch does not know what is good...sorry for the way I talk now: It blew my fucking balls off!
I had to reread it again because I liked it so much.
Apr 5, 2010 10:49 AM

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so well, that ending wasnt ending at all.
at that game accually nobody won ... however, great episode, i liked it.

i wanna 2nd season.
May 9, 2010 7:48 PM
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Second SEAON!~~~~~~~~~~ definitely unhappy to end it like that grrr
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OMG ANGE!!! that sucks!!! anyway Battler is amazing!!! even though he got everything wrong... lol Beatrice really got torn apart XD awesome haha!!! YAY i cant wait 4 Battler 2 win!!! WOOHOO!!! AWESOME EPI X3
May 13, 2010 11:06 PM

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what a joke this anime was
"Manga readers are annoying, all they do is complain or spoil the anime we discuss in an anime forum. They should really do their whining at manga forums."

Stolen from Janethan23. Add in visual novel readers too
May 16, 2010 1:29 PM

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The biggest joke is that animu only watchers won't try the novel, and thus will never learn the true ending.
May 23, 2010 9:53 AM

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can't wait for season 2.....hurry up!!!

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can't wait for season 2.....hurry up!!!


lol a second season probably wouldn't come until 2011 at the earliest.
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Short summary of the whole thing:
1st arc was good, it was quite "normal" (best taken with a pinch of salt);
2nd arc was crap, shit just went shitstorm;
3rd arc was kinda good, some strange things, but overall pretty good;
4th arc was actually pretty awesome, but だめだ, ぜんぜん だめだ, it's not enough to reach higher than 8/10. stupid shit ending ruined it. 7/10, and I'm being generous.

Some hate at Eva (mostly when she goes nuts with her trollface-ish expression), Eva-Beatrice (all the god damn time), Battler (because he's a derp), Lambdadelta (for being overall annoying) and all the exaggerated screaming.
Love at Ange (because she's love), some love at Beatrice (in the 3rd arc), Maria (in the 1st arc, the latter half of the 4th arc, and whenever she wasn't "uuuh"-ing), Jessica (whenever she wasn't screaming), Kyrie (whenever she was awesome), Ronove (for being funny) and Genji (because was there ever a cooler butler than him? No, Sebastian doesn't count. Too bad he died twice D: ).
The rest was herp derp.

My final thoughts on this:
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So, I just finish watching all of Umineko no Naku Koro ni and I said to myself “WHAT!! That can’t be the last episode! F**k that was the last episode.” And after thinking about it I said “I guess it could end like this with an ending that makes you think.”

I have come to the concluded that Beatrice is Battler mother. Why, because at the end of episode Beatrice look Battler in the eyes with tears asking “Who am I?” My guess is his mother. That scene and mood all points to it.
Proof- with my Blue of truth I said:
1. Battler mother is not Asumu Ushiromiya, so who could it be?
2. Beatrice said she was going to kill Battler, so if she dies the he dies.
3. Episode 24 Beatrice said to Battler to remember his sin, could this sin be one of the ten commandment “honor thy mother and father”
4. Beatrice was said to be a mistress of Kinzo.
5. Episode 13 Beatrice was human 1967, in their time its 1986 a 19 year different.
Other thoughts:
1. In many myth it’s the child of the immortal that kills there parent.
2. In many anime it’s the parent of the child that they play mind games with just too mess.
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All I will say is that you are COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY CRUSHINGLY WRONG. Read the novels or pray in futility that Deen will make a second season. I will pray they don't
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Darklight0303 said:
All I will say is that you are COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY CRUSHINGLY WRONG. Read the novels or pray in futility that Deen will make a second season. I will pray they don't


C'mon Dark you know you secretly want it. I do miss my weekly Umineko shitstorm.

dctankgod said:
So, I just finish watching all of Umineko no Naku Koro ni and I said to myself “WHAT!! That can’t be the last episode! F**k that was the last episode.”

It was the last episode of season one; you’re just halfway through the story.
As for your questions:
1. Humm Kyrie?
2. Meta-Beatrice is the embodiment of the mystery, not necessarily a single human. Pay close attention to what Bern says in the EP1 ???.
3-5. I can’t really answer without spoiling you. What is Battler’s sin? What really happened 19 years before? That’s the core of the whole ordeal.
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Well the the anime/novels/manga don't have to follow the same story line they can be different. I'm just using what i seen from the anime to figure out what the hell is happening.
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dctankgod said:
Well the the anime/novels/manga don't have to follow the same story line they can be different. I'm just using what i seen from the anime to figure out what the hell is happening.


No.... they follow the same storyline. The anime and manga have followed everything in the VN so far and have not diverged in any storyline aspect (except the anime likes to leave a lot of important things out and create the wrong mood). DEEN is pathetic enough, I can only imagine what an anime original ending would be like. Probably would end with Sakutaro being the killer all along. Besides DEEN isn't smart enough to come up with an original ending that would make sense even with the scarce amount of red text they left in.
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