ANTITHE5IS said:@offcrack lol. Kinda funny how FSN fans get defensive about this comparison online every single time without fail. I don't care for FZ enough to defend the 10 characters here you've grossly oversimplified so you can make an overdramatized point, so I'll let you have it. If FZ is a 2/10, FSN is a 1/10. The latter is riddled with cringey VN tropes that jeopardize its attempts at being deep and serious and rely on your suspension of disbelief, has archetypical characters, weaker thematic execution (e.g. the deconstruction of heroism is better explored through Kiritsugu less than 30 EPs than Nasu could with Shirou in nearly a million words, and is something all FZ characters carry), is ridiculously bloated, lacks a cohesive identity, has miserable pacing, has atrocious dialogue, is bereft of any genuine emotion, is tonally dissonant, and has multiple flanderized adaptations of an already bad source material. It is a truly awful piece of work, and FZ is rightly regarded as a better series that accentuates the other as a low-tier nekketsu with high school drama. Nasu is a great conceptualizer and not much else unfortunately.
Don't blame the story for your inability to read into the plot. I'm not even referring to FSN here exclusively you misread zero too despite the story being the most in-your-face unsubtle anime I could ever name. Calling the characters tropes because they're superficially isomorphic to common anime archetypes just shows off your lack of reading comprehension. There's no heroism being "deconstructed" with kiritsugu only his retarded utilitarian belief and this is not carried in "all" of the zero cast unless you think that tokiomi, kuuuru or..5 out of the seven servants don't count as its members (I cant blame you if so they're not very memorable) meanwhile every servant within FSN, every master, is there to explore the main character's psychology and his belief. Lacks a cohesive identity? The only route you can say this for is heaven's feel but even that for all its flaws at no point begins resembling an exploitation movie. Can't say the same for zero though. You can't call fsn tone deaf when zero literally portrays a child being raped by worms on screen and has a master team that exists to kill orphans. All of this is handled with no tact or respect, it's simple shock value but I guess that's why you like it.
Also the dialogue/prose in FSN is among the best in contemporary japanese fiction disregarding all the chuuni parts, you'd know if you weren't an ignorant EOP larper and didn't spend your time on forums typing out half baked pseud opinions on cartoons that are somehow too high brow for you. You're welcome to try naming a second theme that zero explores on its own to support your original claims though, since you instantly failed the first time.