arvetan said: no one is shitting on jjk s1 lmaoSeeing the JJK season 1 hatred on MAL by these brainwashed "probably pretentious" clowns, I really wish MAPPA assigned Sunghoo Park to animate AOT back in 2020 and let the Dorehodoro team animate JJK. Park literally made JJK what it is today and now people shit on him and his work. JJK "fans" or these brainless clowns don't deserve JJK season 1. Park made a basic shounen such a big thing with amazing animation, color design, sound design, perfect VA casting, omkae specials, awesome eyecatchers, amazing OP-ED etc. So much creativity in every episode, but now people are suddenly shitting on his work because it's suddenly all bad because some random Indian YouTuber said so. Lmao. These clowns don't deserve JJK season 1. AOT deserved this level of love. the animation of jjk specially in s1 was almost unanimously loved. the visuals in s2 have been more controversial due to being more... I guess artsy you could say? but even s2 is a lot more praised than it is criticized. idk what the hell you are on about. you probably were in a very specific corner where you saw a few people dislike it. cause through all these years I have not seen a single person complain about jjk s1 in terms of animation. |
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Ae4iousMC said: Oongbuh said: Rotoscoping was not promptly used for this episode. Takuya Niinuma was assistant episode director and animation director, and he is an animator who specializes in character acting, particularly this loose, yet realistic-ish animation style. He animated the scene of Geto taking over the association, and you can see his kicks for animation showing through. Oh, my mistake then. Honestly, that makes the quality of this episode even more impressive. Thank you for correcting me. I made a mistake too. Niinuma didn't animate the Geto taking over scene, just confirmed it wqs Souta Yamazaki instead. |
| JJK2 has really good animation imo. Now I've seen many people complain about the "crowd walking" scene in ep5. But you know what? That type of animating reminded me of how Madhouse did back in the 2000's or Science SARU. Nowadays background characters are mostly done with CGI and stuff so this was actually a breath of fresh air and also like a throwback to old school anime for me. The direction was great! |
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| The artstyle may be simpler and less detailed but the animation is way better than S1. It's fluid as hell, visual effects and CG like Gojo's blue or Utahime's hallway are astounding and the direction has been flawless. Way better than S2 in all aspects imo. |
| People just want to shit on Mappa. Heck, I dont give 2 shits about JJK, but it looks good and people saying otherwise are nitpicking. |
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nwssx said: JJK is cinema now, it's incredible how much better it is compared to S1 and JJK0. This is what happens to a soulless anime when a great director takes the lead, I'm happy I un-dropped S1 to be here for this now and witness the greatness this season delivered so far... now, the chances of this project imploding are pretty high so I'm not expecting it to be as good as these first five episodes but hope is the last to die oh, also, there's no need to debate casuals on S2E5's animation direction, they are indeed casuals after all and whatever they say won't change the fact that it was probably the best episode of the whole series so far Not much has changed instead of looking like souless plastic to looking normal, I mean, if you compare this director to the previous one he is indeed good, but the bar is too low at that point to call him good or whatever people mean when they say "cinema". |
| There are no civil discussions about Jujutsu Kaisen's animation on here, and there have been a lot of posts for this same thing. It looks better than the first season? Yes, that isn't a difficult bar to surpass. It is impressive? No. |
Ionliosite2 said: I call this "cinema" because this is probably the best they could do out of such a weak source material anyway, not because I'm particularly in love with it. I just love how the director is giving it a soul and making it actually pretty entertaining, you don't see such great storyboards and character acting that often, he's also giving the staff a lot of freedom too, I'm in love with Niinuma's S2E5's AD work and I hope to see more names go wild with their roles on the next arcnwssx said: JJK is cinema now, it's incredible how much better it is compared to S1 and JJK0. This is what happens to a soulless anime when a great director takes the lead, I'm happy I un-dropped S1 to be here for this now and witness the greatness this season delivered so far... now, the chances of this project imploding are pretty high so I'm not expecting it to be as good as these first five episodes but hope is the last to die oh, also, there's no need to debate casuals on S2E5's animation direction, they are indeed casuals after all and whatever they say won't change the fact that it was probably the best episode of the whole series so far Not much has changed instead of looking like souless plastic to looking normal, I mean, if you compare this director to the previous one he is indeed good, but the bar is too low at that point to call him good or whatever people mean when they say "cinema". |
arvetan said: Thank you for your opinion, now my question is,Also don't talk about MAPPA AOT. MAPPA has done irreversible damange to AOT's reputation by the disgustingly ugly adaptation. It's kinda funny as the so-called experts on "composition" "character design" "color design" like that Indian YouTuber don't seem to understand the utter ugliness of MAPPA AOT and how it completely ruined AOT as a whole. Gone are the unique character designs, the sound selection/BGM selection is wrong in almost all important scenes ruining every important moment. They skipped chapters. They ruined the character designs. The character designs... Don't get me started. Because of those clown YouTubers people think the designs are "manga accurate" when they are so obviously not. It's just Kishi Tomohiro's design. Nothing that looks like or resembles Hajime Isayama's characters. Just a bunch of generic looking designs. Manga https://i.slow.pics/mXbbDycF.jpg Fan Art narutorenegado01 https://i.slow.pics/l0qhrY0Z.jpg MAPPA May 2020 Scam Trailer https://i.slow.pics/8nBLjc8V.jpg MAPPA Anime Episode 12 https://i.slow.pics/O3bPhG4T.jpg MAPPA designs look nothing like the manga. Nor are they "more accurate". It's just an ugly version of characters. Ruining AOT. Shit CGI all over the place. There was an excuse for them in P1 of "lack of time" but I knew all along it was a "by choice" decision. They were not forced. MAPPA makes a scam fake trailer to generate fake hype and then adds CGI all over the place. People then started comparing Wit's CGI to MAPPA's as a cope. Wit was forced to use CGI where MAPPA chooses to use CGI. Evident by their CGI use in CSM and still 4 years later in AOT P3. These clown YouTubers spread this nonsense MAPPA love that brainwash masses and help mediocrity thrive. It's what I hate. Where was all this love for Wit Studio when they were animating it? Clowns like them never existed nor do they support the studios. Just a bunch of randoms that make BS videos for clickbait. Who were asked for all of this? |
feyyazu35 said: İyoniyosit2 said: Well that's impressive to meBurada Jujutsu Kaisen'in animasyonu hakkında hiçbir medeni tartışma yok ve aynı şey için birçok gönderi var. İlk sezondan daha mı iyi görünüyor? Evet, bu aşılması zor bir çıta değil. Etkileyici? HAYIR. That guys is well known for giving his weird takes on this forums. So, in case you're new here, I suggest that you should not easily be influenced by other people's takes , especially on this forums |
kArtCam said: truth.JJK2 looks better JJK2 is better animated JJK2 is way better directed JJK2 is objectively better than the JJK1 by any means Anyone who thinks otherwise is wrong dont know why ppl moaning abou it. but tbh, i am nearly 12 years on mal. the mal community will never change. its always about moaning about things other people like and cherry picking frame by frame. |
| You don’t have to be an animator to know what good animation is, you just need a brain and eyes. I have mixed feelings about the animation it looks good at some parts and some parts just look a bit off. Especially episode 5, that was the episode that I truly had a hard time to just look at what I’m seeing. Episode 2 was probably the best episode that I’ve seen in terms of animation, I didn’t see any flaws. Episode 1,3,4 were just ok nothing too impressive, well 3 and 4 had good animation but most of the time it was just ok. I’m not overhype the animation, I have to admit that MAPPA is a hit or miss studio at this point, they need to stop rushing everything that they make because ppl are going to get mad bc they know that the quality could be better but they want to pick up every single popular manga so they can adapt it bc of money. |
DrkSeid69 said: feyyazu35 said: Well that's impressive to me That guys is well known for giving his weird takes on this forums. So, in case you're new here, I suggest that you should not easily be influenced by other people's takes , especially on this forums My takes are as "weird" as everyone else's. But I agree with your second line, people shouldn't let their opinion be influenced by what people say in a forum. |
Isekai-Enjoyer said: Oongbuh said: That Mushoku Tensei comparison does not work at all, because it's not the same thing. It genuinely lost a lot of it's talent both due to Idolmaster and due to Onimai, to the point Q Kawa is solo carrying the production all by himself. JJK simply had a visual overhaul. A different approach than S1 had, absolutely, but the level of raw talent overall is still just as strong as S1 was, except this time with more catching direction and without the visual issues S1 had like awful backgrounds and inconsistent compositing quality. S2's style, particularly th action and designs, just doesn't appeal to you the same as S1, that does not mean it objectively "got worse". Unlike Mushoku Tensei where it's an actual case of production circumstances leading to a lesser product. I mean, the comparison very much holds when it comes to results. The director changed, which resulted in a decrease in the quality of some things. Staff changes. Quality drops. While the circumstances are different, the fundamentals are very much the same. Again, this is just a case that S2's approach doesn't appeal to you as much. Stop talking about "quality drops" as if this is an objective statement. |
Dixoncider8142 said: You don’t have to be an animator to know what good animation is, you just need a brain and eyes. I have mixed feelings about the animation it looks good at some parts and some parts just look a bit off. Especially episode 5, that was the episode that I truly had a hard time to just look at what I’m seeing. Episode 2 was probably the best episode that I’ve seen in terms of animation, I didn’t see any flaws. Episode 1,3,4 were just ok nothing too impressive, well 3 and 4 had good animation but most of the time it was just ok. I’m not overhype the animation, I have to admit that MAPPA is a hit or miss studio at this point, they need to stop rushing everything that they make because ppl are going to get mad bc they know that the quality could be better but they want to pick up every single popular manga so they can adapt it bc of money. I'm sorry, but claiming that episodes 1-5 were "not that impressive" but then in the same comment claim that episode 2 was "the best one" when it was noticeably the most consertive and the closest thing to an "average" episode this season had makes it really hard to take this seriously. |
kiokushitaka said: i'm on the "s1 had better animation" team, but that's not to say s2 hasn't had its moments. i really enjoyed the toji fight, i think by far that was one of the season's strengths. the sound direction and voice acting are really doing most of the heavy lifting in some of these episodes, though. i was really disappointed with episode 5. i know animators are overworked and underpaid, but it baffles me how some of the hands looked in key frames in this episode... the scene where gojo and geto are fighting in front of the "KFC" and gojo puts his hand up... the hand is almost amorphous and inhuman in how it moves. it looked like someone was drawing a hand from memory without references and it really kind of ruined the depth of that scene for me, and i noticed several instances where characters were wildly off-model. 1-4 were decent, for the most part, but yeah i can't help but be disappointed in ep 5. all i can do now is wait and see if the shibuya arc is where all the budget and good animation went, lol. Episode 5 HAD good animation. The style not being to your liking does not make it "poorly animated". |
| The problem I have with some comments on this thread - and a lot of criticisms towards s2 in general - is that people seem to not really know hot to actually structure their criticims. They don't know how to draw the line betwewn "a specific style of animation/drawing that doesn't personally appeal to me" VS ACTUAL "bad animation" in the sense of being poorly executed or there being little competence in in it's portrayal. Which is also why you get comments talking about "lack of budget/time" as if the episodes' look - specially Hidden Inventory - are a result of some sort of limitation, when it's the opposite: directors like Goshozono and artists like Niinuma letting their juices flow up as much as they want without thinking of just matching the source for the sake of satisfying fans or about keeping a "pretty" aesthetic that will satisfy anyone. Not even something exclusive to JJK. A lot of anime fans tend to have every specific and close-minded notions of what "good animation" is, and think that anything that even remotely strays aways from that notion should be labeled as "bad animation", but can't seen to comprehend the concept of artists having different mindsets and approach to art, and that there is no one and done, objective defier of what "good animation" is. |
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