Vinland Saga
| what an incredibly braindead thread. then you have the comment about the baby to top it off, sasuga. |
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Sagenaker11 said: Apolygon2 said: except it was rated by minuscule 800 members which means nothing. You need to have atleast 10k votes to say majority of them liked the eps, not just fans spamming 10.have you ever seen a real baby? if anything the baby was stunning by bay standards, other anime baby's just set unrealistic standards for baby looks!!! anyways, check the imdb, the episode you're complaining about is one of the highest rated episodes in the entire series. The episode was good but at this point I cannot defend the pacing. They dragged 5pages contentworth for 15min, guess they didn't have any good stopping point so they extended it there is also 83% 5/5s in the mal's episode discussion, which is the highest percentage of 5/5s this season. and reading the replies, the vast majority of them are praising the hell out of it, with a handful of others not liking the episode or being mixed on it. also do you not realize how little sense it makes to say it doesn't count before it reaches 10,000 votes? at this very moment, this show has a total of 2. fucking 2, episodes in it's entire run time season 1 included, that have more than 3 thousand votes. and out of those 2. only end of prologue, which is one of the highest rated episodes on all of imdb with a score of 9.9 has more than 10,000 votes. it being above 10,000 would have been basically impossible, unless it was almost unanimously agreed to be the best episode of the show, an even then it would have taken months if not years. and listen. this is all irrelevant anyways, because all of season 2 episodes were rated by similar number of people. this one is slightly lower since it just came out, but all the episodes are rated by the same general crowd. even if they were all super fans, it would make 0 sense for the weak episode to be rated higher than the good episodes. there is a reason I said highest rated in the season, and not just "highly rated". it's high in comparison to the other episodes, which makes the "because it's rated by fans" argument complete nonsense. the only episode this season with more than 2,000 votes is oath, this despite being super new doesn't even have that much less ratings than the other episodes. and to end things off. it was a slow episode. but being slow is not inherently bad. it depends on the affect it will have on the show. and turning 5 panels, into one of the best episodes in the show according to most people, is a pretty big positive that came from that slow pace. |
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Sagenaker11 said: Apolygon2 said: you wrote 3 long ass para to just prove my point lol. You yourself said all eps were rated by SIMILAR number of people, so all the casuals didn't even bother rating the episode.there is also 83% 5/5s in the mal's episode discussion, which is the highest percentage of 5/5s this season. and reading the replies, the vast majority of them are praising the hell out of it, with a handful of others not liking the episode or being mixed on it. also do you not realize how little sense it makes to say it doesn't count before it reaches 10,000 votes? at this very moment, this show has a total of 2. fucking 2, episodes in it's entire run time season 1 included, that have more than 3 thousand votes. and out of those 2. only end of prologue, which is one of the highest rated episodes on all of imdb with a score of 9.9 has more than 10,000 votes. it being above 10,000 would have been basically impossible, unless it was almost unanimously agreed to be the best episode of the show, an even then it would have taken months if not years. and listen. this is all irrelevant anyways, because all of season 2 episodes were rated by similar number of people. this one is slightly lower since it just came out, but all the episodes are rated by the same general crowd. even if they were all super fans, it would make 0 sense for the weak episode to be rated higher than the good episodes. there is a reason I said highest rated in the season, and not just "highly rated". it's high in comparison to the other episodes, which makes the "because it's rated by fans" argument complete nonsense. the only episode this season with more than 2,000 votes is oath, this despite being doesn't even have that much less ratings than the other episodes. It's like out of 100 people,10 people spam 10 but rest 90 doesn't even bother rating, hence the score remains high. Why do you think end of prologue has over 10000 votes while rest of the eps in s1 itself doesn't cross over 2000? Its because it's the only eps where both the fans and the CASUALS agreed it was a banger ep but for other eps casuals didnt even bother rating the episode. The only anime where we can take episode scores seriously is aot because most of it's good eps are rated by close to 50k people on average yes undeniably end of prologue is the agreed upon best episode in the entire series as of this moment, how the fuck does that prove anything? and I know you're talking nonsense, because anyone who has been on imdb for long enough knows your logic is completely flawed. the best episodes on shows always get the most ratings. in aots case, yeah a lot of episodes have 20,000 plus rating, but only hero is 101,000. that's the case for the highest rated episodes on imdb no matter how big or small the audience size is. look at off taxi, look at 86, look at id invaded, these aren't super popular shows yet their highest rated episode is always the one with the most votes. that's not because the other ratings aren't valid. it's because more people bother to rate something they feel strongly about be it positive or negative. it has nothing to do with casuals or fans. look at the promised neverland season 2 and how the episode with the most votes, is by far the lowest rated one. and again, you can look at my anime list to, where another 1,700 people have contributed to it being a 83% 5/5. |
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Sagenaker11 said: are you being stupid on purpose? how does that have anything to do with being casual?Apolygon2 said: thank you for proving my point. Glad to know you understood the importance of casual fans rating the showit's because more people bother to rate something they feel strongly about be it positive or negative |
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atomicman209 said: Apolygon2 said: yeah full of shit like: fantastic writing, great theming, top tier characters, emotional devastating moments, ear orgasmic music, really good animation, and so much more. oh then season 1 must not have been your type and ig you haven't watched a lot of anime cuz after a while you kinda know what gonna happen and a weeks wait for THAT isn't worth it for me atleast said who? I loved season 1, askeladd is in my top 3 favorite characters in anime. Idk if I like this season more or less yet, it will all depend on the climax. but I adored season 1. it's like a 9.5/10 for me. |
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Sagenaker11 said: just reread our conversation with an open mind, and you will realize how stupid you sound... or you know what? don't.Apolygon2 said: looks like you and your profic pic char share the same mental capacityare you being stupid on purpose? how does that have anything to do with being casual? go show this exact conversation to your friends and ask them. you don't even need to reply back, I'll just pretend like I got owned if it makes you happy. but do get a second opinion of someone who you trust, and I assure you they will tell you how stupid you sound. |
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certifiedbinger said: It has been flawless to me as far as pacing and direction go. It'd be better than S1 if it met the visual standards tbh. the 10/10 backgrounds are gone though :C and idk if it's just me, but the characters look flat compared to season 1 in the average shots. idk why though. maybe it's the lighting, but if you compare them, something makes the s2 characters feel more.... papery? the directing is just as good if not better, and the soundtrack is even stronger though. so at worst it's a very small downgrade. |
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Apolygon2 said: certifiedbinger said: It has been flawless to me as far as pacing and direction go. It'd be better than S1 if it met the visual standards tbh. the 10/10 backgrounds are gone though :C and idk if it's just me, but the characters look flat compared to season 1 in the average shots. idk why though. maybe it's the lighting, but if you compare them, something makes the s2 characters feel more.... papery? the directing is just as good if not better, and the soundtrack is even stronger though. so at worst it's a very small downgrade. yep, I've seen several manga panels from this arc that were drawn just the same in the anime, but the shading which gave the art a medieval epic feeling was mostly lost. I definitely agree with the soundtrack being better this season. For me personally, I'd rate it the same as S1 so far overall. It could be a 10/10 for me if the visuals measured up because I'm way more invested than I was in S1. |
certifiedbinger said: Apolygon2 said: the 10/10 backgrounds are gone though :C and idk if it's just me, but the characters look flat compared to season 1 in the average shots. idk why though. maybe it's the lighting, but if you compare them, something makes the s2 characters feel more.... papery? the directing is just as good if not better, and the soundtrack is even stronger though. so at worst it's a very small downgrade. yep, I've seen several manga panels from this arc that were drawn just the same in the anime, but the shading which gave the art a medieval epic feeling was mostly lost. I definitely agree with the soundtrack being better this season. For me personally, I'd rate it the same as S1 so far overall. It could be a 10/10 for me if the visuals measured up because I'm way more invested than I was in S1. true, although if it has an episode that can match end of prologue i might still give it a 10/10. i'l also way more invested in this season. despite the fact that my favorite charactet is a little too dead to be around. |
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| Ye. It's slow paced. So what? |
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ogking31 said: Apolygon2 said: maybe because you're blind... S2 design are far more detailed than it was in season 1. Movements are much better and there's much less clunky CGI involved. and idk if it's just me, but the characters look flat compared to season 1 in the average shots. idk why though. maybe it's the lighting, but if you compare them, something makes the s2 characters feel more.... papery? idk about the detail, but yes i know the cgi use is lessened, and the cgi that is there is much better... but thats not what i meant. the characters just don't blend in as well as season 1. they stick out like paper. i didn't say they were simple, i said they were flat. it probably has something to do with lighting, but i don't understand lighting well enough to tell you exactly what the problem is. just compare some of the simpler shots of both seasons and you'll get what i mean. |
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| Vinland Saga S2 discourse is so terrible. You shonen-tards have a mental illness where you need action in a show or else you can't watch it |
JerryB3RRY said: Damn TC. Ya clickbaited me real good.I know the pacing isn't as bad as One piece. |
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| I read your commentary before watching yesterday's episode, and I was like "Huh, not that much". After watching it I kinda agree with you, this week's episode was like 3 minutes of Thorfinn vs Snake, and the other rest was just to add some more background on Gardar. As a manga reader I knew this scenes were an extra, and at first I was "Ok, put some more emotion in Gardar's death is ok for me", but as I keep watching I started to feel that the producers of this episode just wanted to me make me cry, like "SEE GARDAR'S DEATH?! HE SUFFERED SO MUCH! CRY! CRY FOR HIM!". I felt pretty sad reading it in the manga, but the, in my opinion, waste of time in putting so much in the anime made me bored, I couldn't really like it. The pace of the manga is good, they should just follow it, but no, they absolutely have to end this season with 24 episodes of just this arc of the manga. |
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JerryB3RRY said: 0207xander said: Vinland Saga S2 discourse is so terrible. You shonen-tards have a mental illness where you need action in a show or else you can't watch it Not everyone that criticises a seinen is a shounen fan. I have difficulty finding a good shounen anime. And I expect seinen fans to be a lot more open minded. Fair. I didn’t check your profile to see what shows you like. However there are literally dozens of topics that talk about Vinland Saga S2 and complain about pacing, lack of action, farming, Thorfinn being a beta, etc etc and, until you, every single one of them was a shonen tard who can’t watch a show if there’s no flashing colors twice per episode. Back to the original question, no the pacing isn’t bad, you probably just don’t like how the story is told. Nothing wrong with that, but complaining or saying it’s “bad” is just silly and reductive |
| I don’t agree with you at all except for the baby being ugly as hell ☠️☠️☠️ |
| Slow paced Vinland Saga is still better than fast paced One Piece |
| If you want to reply to my posts, come up with valid arguments instead of ad hominem HIGHER LEVEL THINKERS ONLY |
ogking31 said: Apolygon2 said: provide example of flat... because the way you talk about production seems like you're not really aware of what you're talking about regards to animation and artstyle. i didn't say they were simple, i said they were flat. it probably has something to do with lighting, but i don't understand lighting well enough to tell you exactly what the problem is.     looking at it now I'm pretty sure it's mix of lighting, and the line work being all thinner. |
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Elucid said: I find the pacing to be great, it gives each dramatic moment time to breathe. So many anime these days favour faster pacing with the cost of immersion, seeing anime like Vinland Saga is a breath of fresh air. I do not understand why anime fans have such a big deal with slower pacing. It is the TikTok attention span. |
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