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Oct 11, 2022 6:25 PM
#201
HeavenDrill
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I just hope it’s not all cgi. That’s all
Oct 11, 2022 6:25 PM
#202
Ulises1264
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reeynld said:
Ulises1264 said:

Pls read the thread before commenting


ahh my apologize I just recently learn to use the forum and a little bit confuse about how it works, I think it just people open thread and your first thread is from people who respond with reply to this thread.

No problem, always remember to read full thread because titles can leas to misinterpretations
Oct 11, 2022 6:25 PM
#203
_spoon_

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It was good i don't know why people are mad lmao

Oct 11, 2022 6:29 PM
#204
Corrout

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I was completely surprised to see the level of animation that it had for the cgi, was the 2nd time i've been blowed away with how cgi has grown.

Has a 8.60 mean score
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Oct 11, 2022 6:31 PM
#205
ColeZoldyk
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I'm not hating on CSM but the CGI wasn't that good but not bad either , to me is was just ok overall . They could have added a little more shading or tone to show his build because Denji looked like a plastic model at times but as long as Denji is in his uniform it won't look that bad because the clothes will give more detail to him whereas without a shirt on he was just a plain character model covered in red I guess .
Oct 11, 2022 6:32 PM
#206
Erdetyrene

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You guys are coping bad lmao
Oct 11, 2022 6:38 PM
#207
WraithFury

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The CGI is good, it's cinematic, kinoooooooooooo
Oct 11, 2022 7:02 PM
#208
Hikarin_Miku
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i think the cgi was really good tbh, even though I'm abit skeptical bout it when I expected to see some in it. i prefer 2d animations though
Oct 11, 2022 7:54 PM
#209
Uzumaki_Itachi_
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KMJin said:
Look bad,I'm sry,i can't lie

mf you have rated spy × family 10 and both summer time rendering and chainsaw man 1 🤡🤡
Oct 11, 2022 9:40 PM
#210
KMJin
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Rajatsanatani said:
KMJin said:
Look bad,I'm sry,i can't lie

mf you have rated spy × family 10 and both summer time rendering and chainsaw man 1 🤡🤡

Wheres point,manga great but anime let me disappoint,SxF ep1 until ep3 me also rate 1 star,let see CSM Ep2 better or not
Oct 11, 2022 10:15 PM
#211
NorthmostIsle

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It was certainly noticeable but not too offensive. Did feel a bit cheap and wish they hadn't cut corners like that.
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Oct 11, 2022 10:18 PM
#212
localstalwart

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the cgi seemed a little choppy at points but overall it's a good addition, liked it considerably more than some of the cgi from aot s4
really beautiful visuals through out the entire episode and hopefully the entire show
Oct 11, 2022 10:28 PM
#213
WraithFury

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Since nowadays, people have low attention span. Companies are forced to produce products and services as fast as possible or they won't sell as fast as possible, that's the competition among companies right now. As for anime production, CGI speds up production.

Chainsaw man CGI definitely look better than AoT cgi, though not as good as Land of Lustrous

Probably, with the hype we're getting with chainsaw man, it gonna normalize CGI usage for future action heavy anime with detailed characters. I thinks this is the norm for modern anime now. From Cel animation, to digital 2d animation, now we are on the era of 2d-cgi blend animation.
Oct 11, 2022 10:31 PM
#214
GakutoDeathGlare

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One of the better uses of CGI I've seen in anime, though it's not like the standard is all too high...
Oct 11, 2022 10:32 PM
#215
Petrtep
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There were moments where I found the cgi unnessesary and out of place, but the whole episode lookd stunning. Im just sad because I expected the action to be done masterfully, and in some places it looked weird. Also have you noticed that some shots look like from a videogame? (Zombie chase especially)
Oct 11, 2022 10:37 PM
#216
AnlmeHeaded
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DENJI body moved janky, similar to INUYASHIKI(i am not a huge fan of it) after he pulled the cord at times.... atleast Devils and other movement were NOICE
I'm reducing my expectations for Vinland S2 now
🙏
Oct 11, 2022 10:48 PM
#217
GinInYourJuice

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I didn’t mind the CG utility poles, buildings, hallways, water droplet, etc. but the scenes with CG Denji fighting those zombies were surprisingly worse than I expected. The scenes with CG Makima were a bit questionable as well. Hopefully there’s way less CG in the other episodes.👌
Oct 11, 2022 10:55 PM
#218
willrsauls
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First off, I think the CGI looks really great. I do think maybe scenes with a little less motion could have been done with 2D since it’s a little wonky and it wouldn’t be THAT many drawings

But just to put my two cents in

I don’t think CGI will be used as much in the anime as this episode makes it seem. I know people have claimed “well MAPPA lies in their trailers. Just look at AoT” but if you look back at the trailer, every scene from the Zombie Devil fight in the trailer looked like it did in the episode. I think it’s mostly there to help the animation team deliver the best work they can since asking for 12 episodes even filled with the animation we see in this episode is already fucking insane. If using a bit more CGI for the fight scenes means the standard talking scenes look this good, you will not see me complaining.
Oct 11, 2022 11:06 PM
#219
willrsauls
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Also just a follow up. Keep in mind that CGI animation is REALLY FUCKING HARD and requires a totally different skillset than 2D. I’m tired of people acting like CGI is lesser or cheaper or easier than 2D. A lot of extremely skilled, talented, and passionate people worked on the CGI scenes and it really shows. I just personally think scenes where the models aren’t moving as much don’t play to that animation team’s strengths and it wouldn’t be too many new drawings to patch it up a bit. Even then little stuff like that HARDLY takes away from the show and anyone criticising the two shots where 3D Denji isn’t moving around much is frankly nitpicking just to nitpick. Props to the entire team and I can’t wait to see what else they have to show
Oct 11, 2022 11:16 PM
#220
herofelix77
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says the guy who rated Bleach a 1 only to have its rating decrease. Youre a joke
Oct 11, 2022 11:18 PM
#221
Zioriens
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No. I think thats good. my eyes are spoiled by the animation.
Oct 11, 2022 11:25 PM
#222
Mehaei
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Looked a bit weird for me and it's an instant turn off but I will probably give it a chance.
Oct 12, 2022 12:28 AM
#223
truth999
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It doesn’t really look bad just not as good as the 2d it’s like the cgi is plain white bread but you starving so it’s still good and better then not having it or the 2d like bread with butter and jelly plus you have a hot girl to cuddle obviously 2 is better but nothing wrong with 3D
Oct 12, 2022 2:19 AM
#224
Ulises1264
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herofelix77 said:
says the guy who rated Bleach a 1 only to have its rating decrease. Youre a joke

What are you talking about, I haven't done that
Oct 12, 2022 2:25 AM
#225
mikanononon
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hmm... digestible. i am not used to cgi in anime. it looks weird however, some scenes do look decently good to me, except when Denji go chainsaw
mikanonononOct 12, 2022 2:32 AM
Oct 12, 2022 2:37 AM
#226
removed-user
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the cgi is very good in my opinion
Oct 12, 2022 10:30 AM
#227
RED_EYE_8_9
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I mean I don't hate it but I wish they would have not used CGI it would have looked a lot better
Oct 12, 2022 10:39 AM
#228
Storm_blessed

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well all CGI is bad. but at least its not berserk 2016 bad
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Oct 12, 2022 10:59 AM
#229
RoninNegative

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3DCG anime can be great. CGIMan looks pretty rad even. It just felt sort of awkward and stilted when in motion. Killed the tempo a little.

Mappa did Dorohedoro though, right? I thought the 3DCG looked really dynamic in that so wha happun? Are they just that overworked?
RoninNegativeOct 12, 2022 11:02 AM
She's just bad at talking to people, so she tries to sound quirky as an emotional defense.
Oct 12, 2022 11:13 AM
#230
Espio74

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The Cgi looked like shit and has no place in anime imo. I'd only tolerate it if it's done like Beastsrs and the whole show is in 3d, but mixing it with 2d ruins the anime. Unfortunately everything Mappa touches besides JuJutsu turns to shit. I wish Madhouse and Wit got exclusive access to all the great Mangas but oh well.
Espio74Oct 12, 2022 11:17 AM
Oct 12, 2022 11:15 AM
#231
Pumpk1nish
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I cgi was good but it felt like it was too much of it in my opinion. still great adaptation by MAPPA
Oct 12, 2022 11:26 AM
#232
AshenOne65
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People are complaining because the CGI exists
They want a 101% 2d Anime with god-like Animation
Oct 12, 2022 11:33 AM
#233
GooseIsAvailable
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The CGI was great, the actual animation I have no problem with however the model isn't the best as it could do with slight more details however it doesn't bother me too much but it still looks amazing
Oct 12, 2022 2:42 PM
#234
mordalkaiser
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Dec 2021
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the cgi wasnt that bad but i really gotta confess...


the opening is amazing
Oct 12, 2022 2:46 PM
#235
Ulises1264
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mordalkaiser said:
the cgi wasnt that bad but i really gotta confess...


the opening is amazing

I agree, the song slaps and the visuals are amazing.
Oct 12, 2022 3:16 PM
#236
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AshenOne65 said:
People are complaining because the CGI exists
They want a 101% 2d Anime with god-like Animation

I mean, the CGI is not really the issue because CGI can be extremely good and beautiful in the right hands, just look at Arcane, it's one of the best shows I've watched so far, it was simply beautiful.

The problem is CGI in the wrong hands which make it look fucking ugly and that's exactly what happened here, this episode has plenty of CGI which actually looked good, however, the most important part is when he transformed into Chainsaw Man and this part has horrible CGI. That's my only complaint so far about this episode, that CGI was simply too fucking ugly and yeah, it did ruin the moment for me.
xZabuzaxOct 12, 2022 3:22 PM
Oct 12, 2022 3:23 PM
#237
AshenOne65
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xZabuzax said:
AshenOne65 said:
People are complaining because the CGI exists
They want a 101% 2d Anime with god-like Animation

I mean, the CGI is not really the issue because CGI can be extremely good and beautiful in the right hands, just look at Arcane, it's one of the best shows I've watched so far, it was simply beautiful.

I think if there was heavy metal playing in the background I wouldn't even care, but just the sound of the chainsaw bothered me a little, but for some reason I've watched the scene of him massacring the zombies several times.
Oct 12, 2022 3:26 PM
#238
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I didn't really see the problem. Denji seems good to me. There might have been some wonky stuff going on with the zombies but all in all, far from the worst it could've been
Oct 12, 2022 7:51 PM
#239
SayoriEnthusiast
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I think it looked fine, I mean, we've seen worse... Cough cough Berserk 2016 cough cough
Oct 12, 2022 8:30 PM
#240
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Ulises1264 said:
herofelix77 said:
says the guy who rated Bleach a 1 only to have its rating decrease. Youre a joke

What are you talking about, I haven't done that


You have though? Your profile is right there.
Oct 12, 2022 10:00 PM
#241
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No anime is safe from these threads. Every mainstream anime will be a victim of these threads, it's inevitable. It has happened with AOT, Demon slayer, SXF, Jujutsu Kaisen and now Chainsaw man.
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Oct 12, 2022 10:24 PM
#242
Ulises1264
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ProcHoliday said:
Ulises1264 said:

What are you talking about, I haven't done that


You have though? Your profile is right there.

You're messing up progress with score
Oct 12, 2022 11:23 PM
#243
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Ulises1264 said:
ProcHoliday said:


You have though? Your profile is right there.

You're messing up progress with score


Oh, my bad. You watched 1 episode and dropped it. A little too much CGI for you? Like 3 seconds worth?
Oct 12, 2022 11:29 PM
#244
Numial
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The CGI work is incredible, when that guy on Twitter filter that scene of the first episode on 144p obviusly looks like a shit, but now, now looks very very well.
Oct 13, 2022 1:00 AM
#245
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Ulises1264 said:
Yoxhio said:


you are being sneaky it might not be intentional, but that's how it comes off. you are kind of faking that you are ok and open to people not liking it but then say: you want it to make sense or question people when they say they don't like it, or you say "its really good cgi (even if you don't like it.)"

idk why ur adding all this extra stuff to ur statements. it should just end with "i like the CGI, I think it's amazing" it shouldn't be followed up with semi-snarky remarks questioning why others don't like it or telling them they don't like it because they don't like CGI in general.

You might be right.
But I really do think that if you dont like csm cgi probably you dont like cgi in general.


Nah, sometimes CGI can be great, but it depends on how it's used. Shows like Land of the Lustrous, Dragon Ball Super Hero, Arcane, RWBY, or Beastars are great examples of proper use of CGI that look great. The common theme with those shows though is that they all use exclusively CGI to animate the show. There's no jump in-between 2D drawn animation to CGI animation. The CGI in Chainsaw Man honestly looks fantastic. It's some of the best CGI in anime. But it's noticeable when the show switches between 2D and CGI. It can take some people out of the immersion of the story or action. I'd say I like CGI when it's the only method of animation the animators use, but intercutting 2D with CGI takes me out of it. Like I said, it still looks great, but it definitely put me off in a way. Still looking forward to watching the rest of the show, though I hope every fight is not suddenly animated in CG when Denji transforms.
Oct 13, 2022 1:20 AM
#246
Ulises1264
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ProcHoliday said:
Ulises1264 said:

You're messing up progress with score


Oh, my bad. You watched 1 episode and dropped it. A little too much CGI for you? Like 3 seconds worth?

I haven't watched bleach.
I just watched that episode because why not.
Do you have any problem with it?
Oct 13, 2022 1:21 AM
#247
Ventus_S

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OP CGI of the facial expression seems weird but the actual episode 1 cgi is pretty good.
Oct 13, 2022 1:32 AM
#248
McBaws

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ok after watching it again i have one MAJOR issue with the CG. Has Mappa never heard of anti-aliasing? This is literally like the most basic CG shit... have they never heard of MSAA?

Why the fuck is all their CG infested by jaggies? Same thing in AOT. Literally the CG would look almost perfect without them
Oct 13, 2022 3:03 AM
#249
simp4thighs-kun

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i usually hate cgi but i didnt think it was terrible in the first ep
Oct 13, 2022 3:15 AM
#250
Daroman

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The CG was okay, but it was still worse than the 2D animation, as it usually is. It doesn't ruin the show, but it definitely would be better if it was full 2D instead. Unfortunately, that's just not realistic.
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