Should I finish this or leave it ?

RioFS said:
And you think Subaru's ENTIRE character can be described by saying that he's ...... immature? You actually think that does not expand upon his character when that's exactly what Re:Zero does?

He is a character more complex than simply "immature". The show potrays him as a human rather than an anime protagonist.

Eg., when Subaru is completely tired from overwork, and Emilia calls him to her room while he flirts with her. His flirtation at this point is actually kind of sad at this point, because of what he thought just before. "I need to make them laugh". That single phrase shows that a lot of his over-the-top behavior is just an act, attempting to make people like him. It already shows that he isn't acting that way simply because he is stupid or a simp. He is acting like that because it's the only way he knows how to interact with friends. Its expanded upon even more in S2E4.

Another is his shut-in aspect. Subaru treats the new world just like a RPG player treats a RPG world. He thinks he is the main character and everyone else is a bunch of NPCs. It shows that his mind mixes reality and fiction. He probably played so many games, and spent so much time in his room, he started feeling like the characters were more real than actual people out there. Therefore, treating real people like NPCs. Over the course of time, he gradually stops making game references over time, showing he's gained respect for this world and its people.

Subaru treats Emilia as the object of his desires and the show even acknowledges that. This flaw of his is solved by the end of S2. But the beginning of arc 1 gave him enough of a reason for Subaru to like her. He seems honestly amazed at how kind she is to everyone, even people who are stangers, even when helping someone puts her in problems. He could just walk way from her and find a new "waifu", but that made such an impression it wouldn't just go way. "Helping people, even on your own expense". That pretty much became a mantra for him.

There's more but actually watch the show if you want to know it.

"True criticism of concepts involves taking them to their logical extreme to allow them to demonstrate their own flaws." - Exactly what happens in the show. Its just that this criticism is shown and not directly told to us like we are a bunch of idiots who require spoon-feeding.

"This is a common error made by people who fail to understand the nature of stories. The idea of things being either "plot-driven" or "character-driven" is untrue. Fiction is driven by everything, and everything drives it in turn. I mentioned this already earlier, every part of a work of fiction is created to impact and be informed by everything else in that same work. To say "well it's a character-driven story" is just a non-statement." - That's your own definition; I don't see why actual works have to follow your nonsense.

"What pulled the story to arc 3, did anything? Ask yourself that." - the beginning of the royal selection, Subaru's misadventure at the castle and the Witch Cult taking notice of the half-elf.

"So you're concluding the theme of the work based solely on what you felt one fraction of the story focused on? That's incorrect." - Just ONE of its themes. Its main themes revolve around the Seven Deadly Sins and their respective virtues, basically human nature in short. Not all of the sins have been tackled tho, since the story is ongoing at the moment.

"Again, shifting the burden of proof. You made the claim, you're to back it up, not some idiotic subreddit." - I am talking about the Re:Zero subreddit not the re:zero sucks subreddit, those two are vastly different. I am simply stating the location of the proof, which you apparently don't want to look for, implying you simply don't want to admit the fact that Re:Zero's good.

"You've not proved anything you've said, so your conclusion is false" - I already have in my previous post. You ignore it all, didn't ya? It's YOU who has failed to provide any actual proof
as to why Re:Zero is completely lacking in themes. I am not going to repeat myself.

"Again, you're assuming your counterargument is without fault, when it of course is, so to run ahead and conclude my argument was incorrect is just deluded." - I have already backed up my
arguments with instances from the story unlike you, therefore it's you who is deluded.

"Assumption, prove it is my opinion." - Re:Zero has some truly amazing OSTs which suit events when they play, lending it the feel of an actual world rather than just another beautiful fantasy world. Disprove this.

"Prove both these statements." - You called Tappei a retard.
retard - delay or hold back in terms of progress or development.
Yeah, based on that definition, what you said is definitely a lie, on top of being an insult to another person. Its BOTH disrespectful and rude.

"A fallacious conclusion. You're again assuming your earlier points were correct, making your point circular." - This coming from the same guy who said that Subaru is a shallow character? What a hypocrite.

"I'm not even going to bother clicking that. If it is of note, you can repeat the information contained within." - I am not RickRolling you here; it simply an anime-only's perspective of Subaru, untouched by the LN.

"Your argument in this response has amounted to misunderstanding the nature of character and theme, calling on other fans of the show for help, and then just repeating that you think I'm wrong over and over without affirming that to be true. Pitiful."
- You have basically ignored all the arguments I have made and then go on to accuse me of calling upon help. Well, unless you actually acknowledge my arguments, I can't waste more of my time upon an elitist as pitiful as you. Have a good day.

Okeanix said:

Tokyo Revengers is literally copycat of Re:Zero and Takemichi is bland shounen copy of Subaru with no development. That's why i thought this is a troll thread because Takemichi is one of most annoying character in fiction.

Okeanix said:

No Re:Zero is not edgy series for teenagers and scene you mentioned has different explanation.

If you expecting Subaru to powerup and became ruthless or something this is not some flat shounen like Attack on Titan. But there is like millions of isekai with MC comeback as most powerful cliche.

Also you gave Tokyo Revengers 9. I don't understand this thread is troll or something.

ShadowUnown said:

AoT is less a flat shounen than ReZero is a edgy series for teenagers.

ShadowUnown said:

AoT is less a flat shounen than ReZero is a edgy series for teenagers.

Okeanix said:

Re:Zero is opposite of edgy. Most people complain about the series is lack of edginess. Re:Zero is seinen series while Attack on Titan is shounen. Shounen is series targeting teenagers so i don't understand what you talking about. Attack on Titan is very edgy series with characters like Levi, Mikasa, Eren etc.