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May 19, 2021 12:54 AM
#1601
I have accepted the ending but I can't cope up with the fact that the war is still going on and the earlier sacrifice were in vain and the character of eren is destroyed in few pages |
May 20, 2021 6:48 AM
#1602
I woke up this morning seeing notification of a new chapter of Shigeki no Kyojin. I wasn't surprised. I heard a lot of stuff about some extra pages and their leaks. So after reading the new few pages of the final chapter rather a small extra story that stands after chapter 139 aka 139.5, we can see few scenes that can be put in 7 or so pages. 4 key points I could note: 1. Mikasa and her family(yeah her married husband and a child with him) came to visit Eren's grave. 2. Old-aged Mikasa visited the grave one last time before her death. 3. Lot's of skyscrapers shown on the island. Yet the tree where was lying wasn't cut then. 4. War broke out and a child is shown running toward Eren's grave. These extra pages are totally meaningless. But you know there's another plothole. The war. It sounds funny for me to even write here. How about H. Isayama creates another series from this plothole? Idk I'm just giving funny assumptions. It's sad how a series with this fame, and story turn out to have a disastrous ending. I eagerly hope that they change the ending in the adaption. The odds are near to 0. |
May 23, 2021 6:46 AM
#1603
People have to use their head more. This was a good ending lol |
May 23, 2021 6:59 AM
#1604
Ahmedshakil said: I woke up this morning seeing notification of a new chapter of Shigeki no Kyojin. I wasn't surprised. I heard a lot of stuff about some extra pages and their leaks. So after reading the new few pages of the final chapter rather a small extra story that stands after chapter 139 aka 139.5, we can see few scenes that can be put in 7 or so pages. 4 key points I could note: 1. Mikasa and her family(yeah her married husband and a child with him) came to visit Eren's grave. 2. Old-aged Mikasa visited the grave one last time before her death. 3. Lot's of skyscrapers shown on the island. Yet the tree where was lying wasn't cut then. 4. War broke out and a child is shown running toward Eren's grave. These extra pages are totally meaningless. But you know there's another plothole. The war. It sounds funny for me to even write here. How about H. Isayama creates another series from this plothole? Idk I'm just giving funny assumptions. It's sad how a series with this fame, and story turn out to have a disastrous ending. I eagerly hope that they change the ending in the adaption. The odds are near to 0. Ahmedshakil said: I woke up this morning seeing notification of a new chapter of Shigeki no Kyojin. I wasn't surprised. I heard a lot of stuff about some extra pages and their leaks. So after reading the new few pages of the final chapter rather a small extra story that stands after chapter 139 aka 139.5, we can see few scenes that can be put in 7 or so pages. 4 key points I could note: 1. Mikasa and her family(yeah her married husband and a child with him) came to visit Eren's grave. 2. Old-aged Mikasa visited the grave one last time before her death. 3. Lot's of skyscrapers shown on the island. Yet the tree where was lying wasn't cut then. 4. War broke out and a child is shown running toward Eren's grave. These extra pages are totally meaningless. But you know there's another plothole. The war. It sounds funny for me to even write here. How about H. Isayama creates another series from this plothole? Idk I'm just giving funny assumptions. It's sad how a series with this fame, and story turn out to have a disastrous ending. I eagerly hope that they change the ending in the adaption. The odds are near to 0. These extra pages were meant to express the themes of AOT. Isayama said "At that moment...I was utterly confused. I've never heard about Titans killing their own kind. Then I was slightly exalted. Because what I was looking at felt like the reification of mankind's anger". This quote backs up the extra pages. The extra pages were to portray The Cycle Of Hatred/reality of human nature. After all those years the war was still ongoing. |
May 23, 2021 10:14 PM
#1605
I personally loves the ending. Don’t understand how ppl rated it a 1/5. I suppose I felt like sometbing was missing, especially for this roller coaster of twists and emotions that lead us up to this point, that ended with Ymir simply being in love and subjecting herself to 2000 years of slavery for it 😪. It was necessary ending (eren dying) even thought we didn’t want that to happen. |
May 23, 2021 10:14 PM
#1606
I personally loves the ending. Don’t understand how ppl rated it a 1/5. I suppose I felt like sometbing was missing, especially for this roller coaster of twists and emotions that lead us up to this point, that ended with Ymir simply being in love and subjecting herself to 2000 years of slavery for it 😪. It was necessary ending (eren dying) even thought we didn’t want that to happen. |
May 24, 2021 6:46 AM
#1607
Hmmm.. HAHAHAHA In the end congrats to AOT for finishing the manga even this ending was kinda funny and the last arc too.. |
May 25, 2021 6:11 AM
#1608
Wow tbr this chapter felt like some half-assed esoteric fanfiction. Was kinda dissapointed in SnK took after he pulled that Endgame-esque plot bs earlier on but I can't be completely mad since the first 130 chapters were indeed a wild ride. I went in thinking this was another overhyped shounen series 5 years ago to walking out with a philosophy degree and a new perspective on life. There were moments that felt miscalculated and especially messy but I feel like these mistakes only reinforce how human SnK is even if the ending fucked everyone over. Thanks for the many twists, turns, and headaches Isayama. Imma take a nap now ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Chapters 1-131: mid to high 8 Chapters 131-139: low 6 Overall Rating: mid to high 7 |
May 25, 2021 6:22 AM
#1609
This manga was a 7/10 for me. The salty EreHisu shippers giving this a 1 because their girl knocked up a farmer to save herself. |
May 29, 2021 2:56 AM
#1610
What if Eren used the Founding Titan Powers to make everyone think they got their "good ending", while they all died? |
May 29, 2021 8:33 AM
#1611
GENERIC WALMART LELOUCH ENDING |
May 29, 2021 8:36 AM
#1612
GENERIC ENDING, A WASTED MASTERPIECE FOR CORPORATE GREED |
May 29, 2021 6:02 PM
#1613
PeaceForeverMe said: well she did the same as her mother so her character was ruined lolThis manga was a 7/10 for me. The salty EreHisu shippers giving this a 1 because their girl knocked up a farmer to save herself. |
Attack on Titan ended with chapter 123 and 130/131 is the epilogue |
May 30, 2021 10:46 AM
#1614
nowandforever said: the fact you were fine with whatever ending as long your ship sails is really funnyimbAF said: nowandforever said: imbAF said: nowandforever said: majinale said: If you consider a fictional story as art, not only does it NEED to have a message but that message needs to be either meaningful or uplifting or beautiful, because if it doesn't that story is completely worthless. But that might just be me. absolutely agree. i was one of the few who kind of liked the ending and saw it is “beauty in a cruel world” and acceptance and moving on despite the continuing cycle of hatred.. but after the leaks i don’t know what to think anymore looooll the story has lost any possible message or meaning that it ever had if the titans return.. and mikasa’s love was strong enough to break a 2000 year curse yet she has children in the same chapter where eren cries about wanting her to love him forever? so much for the tragedy of eternal love, not sure why romance was even introduced if yams planned to throw it away like this. i just can’t believe my eyes honestly looool and i don’t think isayama is aware that women can move on without marrying and having babies. the whole thing is just a mess, and a complete set up for a sequel. disastrous writing. But if it would end up with EM, for a shipper like you it would have been enoufh to be masterpiece xD. eren is my favourite, but i knew he had to die and wanted that to happen. i’ve discussed this with you already lmaoooo are you just a hardcore jean x mikasa shipper or smth?? you’re making me cringe. Yeah definitely, because my attention does not revolve around the story and the different topic and issues that it raises such as, racism, ancestral guilt, discrimination, hate, freedom, Determinism vs indeterminism, or a bunch of other topics, it was all about whom Mikasa would ride. But you already came out as a EM shipper, you can't really say anything to me. ...okay? and that’s why i started watching aot too. i literally said that isayama should not have introduced romance if he was going to throw it away like this and not properly execute it. he should’ve never introduced EM if mikasa (FMC) was going to end up with jean (side character) in the last six pages with no development. it’s not all about who mikasa rides at all, which is why i’m mad that isayama wasted his final pages on this when no one cares if mikasa moves on and has kids/who she marries. the pages should’ve been extra clarification like he said they would be. not sure why you keep bringing up EM as if it automatically discredits everything else i say lmaoooo |
May 30, 2021 10:50 AM
#1615
123moh555 said: nowandforever said: the fact you were fine with whatever ending as long your ship sails is really funnyimbAF said: nowandforever said: imbAF said: nowandforever said: majinale said: If you consider a fictional story as art, not only does it NEED to have a message but that message needs to be either meaningful or uplifting or beautiful, because if it doesn't that story is completely worthless. But that might just be me. absolutely agree. i was one of the few who kind of liked the ending and saw it is “beauty in a cruel world” and acceptance and moving on despite the continuing cycle of hatred.. but after the leaks i don’t know what to think anymore looooll the story has lost any possible message or meaning that it ever had if the titans return.. and mikasa’s love was strong enough to break a 2000 year curse yet she has children in the same chapter where eren cries about wanting her to love him forever? so much for the tragedy of eternal love, not sure why romance was even introduced if yams planned to throw it away like this. i just can’t believe my eyes honestly looool and i don’t think isayama is aware that women can move on without marrying and having babies. the whole thing is just a mess, and a complete set up for a sequel. disastrous writing. But if it would end up with EM, for a shipper like you it would have been enoufh to be masterpiece xD. eren is my favourite, but i knew he had to die and wanted that to happen. i’ve discussed this with you already lmaoooo are you just a hardcore jean x mikasa shipper or smth?? you’re making me cringe. Yeah definitely, because my attention does not revolve around the story and the different topic and issues that it raises such as, racism, ancestral guilt, discrimination, hate, freedom, Determinism vs indeterminism, or a bunch of other topics, it was all about whom Mikasa would ride. But you already came out as a EM shipper, you can't really say anything to me. ...okay? and that’s why i started watching aot too. i literally said that isayama should not have introduced romance if he was going to throw it away like this and not properly execute it. he should’ve never introduced EM if mikasa (FMC) was going to end up with jean (side character) in the last six pages with no development. it’s not all about who mikasa rides at all, which is why i’m mad that isayama wasted his final pages on this when no one cares if mikasa moves on and has kids/who she marries. the pages should’ve been extra clarification like he said they would be. not sure why you keep bringing up EM as if it automatically discredits everything else i say lmaoooo where did i say that? in fact, i said the opposite.. that it doesn’t matter who mikasa marries and yams shouldn’t have focused on that in the final 8 pages. it’s even funnier and very pathetic how ppl like you see anyone mention EM and automatically assume that’s the only part of the story i cared about lmaoooo |
May 30, 2021 11:01 AM
#1616
nowandforever said: you are mad for mikasa moving on with her life and marring another guy in 8 pages, but you are completely fine of her 1-dimension love for 138 chp and only couple of pages from the last chapter when it turns out it's mutual because it's " well-written tragic romance "? It seems you don't get it, people hated her because she's literally the same characters from the beginning to the end, nothing more than eren simp,no development whatsoever, and the last chapter is the same as for the extra pages, a badly written forced romance in a story that has no place for it123moh555 said: nowandforever said: imbAF said: nowandforever said: imbAF said: nowandforever said: majinale said: If you consider a fictional story as art, not only does it NEED to have a message but that message needs to be either meaningful or uplifting or beautiful, because if it doesn't that story is completely worthless. But that might just be me. absolutely agree. i was one of the few who kind of liked the ending and saw it is “beauty in a cruel world” and acceptance and moving on despite the continuing cycle of hatred.. but after the leaks i don’t know what to think anymore looooll the story has lost any possible message or meaning that it ever had if the titans return.. and mikasa’s love was strong enough to break a 2000 year curse yet she has children in the same chapter where eren cries about wanting her to love him forever? so much for the tragedy of eternal love, not sure why romance was even introduced if yams planned to throw it away like this. i just can’t believe my eyes honestly looool and i don’t think isayama is aware that women can move on without marrying and having babies. the whole thing is just a mess, and a complete set up for a sequel. disastrous writing. But if it would end up with EM, for a shipper like you it would have been enoufh to be masterpiece xD. eren is my favourite, but i knew he had to die and wanted that to happen. i’ve discussed this with you already lmaoooo are you just a hardcore jean x mikasa shipper or smth?? you’re making me cringe. Yeah definitely, because my attention does not revolve around the story and the different topic and issues that it raises such as, racism, ancestral guilt, discrimination, hate, freedom, Determinism vs indeterminism, or a bunch of other topics, it was all about whom Mikasa would ride. But you already came out as a EM shipper, you can't really say anything to me. ...okay? and that’s why i started watching aot too. i literally said that isayama should not have introduced romance if he was going to throw it away like this and not properly execute it. he should’ve never introduced EM if mikasa (FMC) was going to end up with jean (side character) in the last six pages with no development. it’s not all about who mikasa rides at all, which is why i’m mad that isayama wasted his final pages on this when no one cares if mikasa moves on and has kids/who she marries. the pages should’ve been extra clarification like he said they would be. not sure why you keep bringing up EM as if it automatically discredits everything else i say lmaoooo where did i say that? in fact, i said the opposite.. that it doesn’t matter who mikasa marries and yams shouldn’t have focused on that in the final 8 pages. it’s even funnier and very pathetic how ppl like you see anyone mention EM and automatically assume that’s the only part of the story i cared about lmaoooo |
May 30, 2021 11:16 AM
#1617
123moh555 said: nowandforever said: you are mad for mikasa moving on with her life and marring another guy in 8 pages, but you are completely fine of her 1-dimension love for 138 chp and only couple of pages from the last chapter when it turns out it's mutual because it's " well-written tragic romance "? It seems you don't get it, people hated her because she's literally the same characters from the beginning to the end, nothing more than eren simp,no development whatsoever, and the last chapter is the same as for the extra pages, a badly written forced romance in a story that has no place for it123moh555 said: nowandforever said: the fact you were fine with whatever ending as long your ship sails is really funnyimbAF said: nowandforever said: imbAF said: nowandforever said: majinale said: If you consider a fictional story as art, not only does it NEED to have a message but that message needs to be either meaningful or uplifting or beautiful, because if it doesn't that story is completely worthless. But that might just be me. absolutely agree. i was one of the few who kind of liked the ending and saw it is “beauty in a cruel world” and acceptance and moving on despite the continuing cycle of hatred.. but after the leaks i don’t know what to think anymore looooll the story has lost any possible message or meaning that it ever had if the titans return.. and mikasa’s love was strong enough to break a 2000 year curse yet she has children in the same chapter where eren cries about wanting her to love him forever? so much for the tragedy of eternal love, not sure why romance was even introduced if yams planned to throw it away like this. i just can’t believe my eyes honestly looool and i don’t think isayama is aware that women can move on without marrying and having babies. the whole thing is just a mess, and a complete set up for a sequel. disastrous writing. But if it would end up with EM, for a shipper like you it would have been enoufh to be masterpiece xD. eren is my favourite, but i knew he had to die and wanted that to happen. i’ve discussed this with you already lmaoooo are you just a hardcore jean x mikasa shipper or smth?? you’re making me cringe. Yeah definitely, because my attention does not revolve around the story and the different topic and issues that it raises such as, racism, ancestral guilt, discrimination, hate, freedom, Determinism vs indeterminism, or a bunch of other topics, it was all about whom Mikasa would ride. But you already came out as a EM shipper, you can't really say anything to me. ...okay? and that’s why i started watching aot too. i literally said that isayama should not have introduced romance if he was going to throw it away like this and not properly execute it. he should’ve never introduced EM if mikasa (FMC) was going to end up with jean (side character) in the last six pages with no development. it’s not all about who mikasa rides at all, which is why i’m mad that isayama wasted his final pages on this when no one cares if mikasa moves on and has kids/who she marries. the pages should’ve been extra clarification like he said they would be. not sure why you keep bringing up EM as if it automatically discredits everything else i say lmaoooo where did i say that? in fact, i said the opposite.. that it doesn’t matter who mikasa marries and yams shouldn’t have focused on that in the final 8 pages. it’s even funnier and very pathetic how ppl like you see anyone mention EM and automatically assume that’s the only part of the story i cared about lmaoooo that’s on you if you hate mikasa, and seems like that’s why you’re so against EM despite the fact there was development there and clear hints towards it.. eren’s whole attitude towards her changed after chapter 50, and it was implied all along that there was going to be some form of romance between the two. anyone who says it wasn’t has intentionally chosen to ignore it, especially when the unadapted scenes in 121, 123, 130 etc are such obvious hints on eren’s feelings towards her. i’m not mad at mikasa marrying another guy, i’m mad that there was no development between her and the NPC. these characters aren’t real, so if the development is not shown, it didn’t happen. and i’m sure we can agree that if mikasa was such an “eren simp” for 10 years straight, it’s out of character for her to marry a random guy so suddenly, no? THAT is what i’m disappointed about, its inconsistent to who mikasa has proven to be for the last 138 chapters, and seems like yams has pulled it out of his ass for the sake of setting up a sequel with an ackerman descendant as the protagonist. |
May 30, 2021 4:33 PM
#1618
yaegerist-15 said: PeaceForeverMe said: well she did the same as her mother so her character was ruined lolThis manga was a 7/10 for me. The salty EreHisu shippers giving this a 1 because their girl knocked up a farmer to save herself. Historian fans need to decide if y’all want her to be Mother Teresa or Olivier Armstrong. She’s a way better mother than their mom. You guys are just mad that Eren didn’t kill everyone to go fuck Historia in a barn. |
May 30, 2021 5:29 PM
#1619
PeaceForeverMe said: lol how one-dimensional can you be? If I would've known that aot is about friendship and toxic love instead of more complex themes, then I shouldve never watched it. Keep your friendship theory for yourself after that retcon of ending yaegerist-15 said: PeaceForeverMe said: This manga was a 7/10 for me. The salty EreHisu shippers giving this a 1 because their girl knocked up a farmer to save herself. Historian fans need to decide if y’all want her to be Mother Teresa or Olivier Armstrong. |
Attack on Titan ended with chapter 123 and 130/131 is the epilogue |
May 30, 2021 5:59 PM
#1620
yaegerist-15 said: PeaceForeverMe said: lol how one-dimensional can you be? If I would've known that aot is about friendship and toxic love instead of more complex themes, then I shouldve never watched it. Keep your friendship theory for yourself after that retcon of ending yaegerist-15 said: PeaceForeverMe said: well she did the same as her mother so her character was ruined lolThis manga was a 7/10 for me. The salty EreHisu shippers giving this a 1 because their girl knocked up a farmer to save herself. Historian fans need to decide if y’all want her to be Mother Teresa or Olivier Armstrong. None of those themes were discarded tho. Freedom. Knowledge. Selfishness vs Selflessness. Life v Death. Those were all explored in the last chapter. Was it needlessly vague? Yes. But I assure those themes were present. For some reason, out of all the things that bugged people — It was Eren being a “simp”, even thought that’s one of the least offensive things about the ending. His romantic attraction to Mikasa could’ve been foreshadowed better. But it’s way better than EreHisu taking a blackmail seen “worst girl in the world” and making it romantic. |
May 30, 2021 6:57 PM
#1621
I really did like it, I dont understand the hate. I thought it was perfectly fitting. A perfect ending |
May 30, 2021 7:33 PM
#1622
I honestly didn't like it, I don't understand how some people like it. It does not fit in anything with the series. A trashy ending. |
a wise user of MAL said: Just to clarify, adaptations should absolutely stand on their own |
May 31, 2021 12:13 AM
#1623
Damn, I hate the pathetic ending that Levi had. He, who was supposed to be the invincible super powerful character ended up losing an eye, three fingers, and the ability to walk properly, while all the other characters ended perfectly healthy, with a complete body. I already hated it when he got his first injuries, but then I was expecting that the author would find a way to make Levi act like a badass even without the fingers, but he ended up being almost useless in the final battle, and was even humiliated by Zeke, who basically asked to be killed by Levi, who had been grumbling about having the killing of Zeke as his goal, which sounded like the announcement of a final fight against the last boss that was bound to happen, but that was just another disappointment after all... And I'm quite sure that it hadn't been confirmed that Levi had lost the vision of his right eye until the last chapter, but unfortunately the eye was shown totally white, so that confirms it. And the same goes for his leg. I thought there was hope that his leg would be healed, but then he was drawn on a wheelchair just to make sure to let the readers know that he ended as a cripple. And the ending of the series as a whole was also terrible. Eren's conversation with Armin, which was supposed to explain why he did what he did, didn't really explain anything. It was a very stupid decision, and also very out of character. Considering the moral values that Eren had been defending up to that point, killing the majority of humanity could never be an option in his mind. It was very easy to notice that Zeke's solution was the more humane one, and it would have been a much better writing if a problem occurred that did not allow Zeke's plan to work, instead of making the protagonist of the series oppose it. Another terrible thing that appeared in one of the last chapters was that conversation between Zeke and Armin, in which Zeke defends the evolutionism bullshit, and says that people just live to reproduce the species, to which Armin replies with the existentialist argument, that life is pointless but can have meanings created according to one's subjective desires. This is a very dangerous line of thought, that leads people to become degenerates, disregarding the objectivity of moral values, and denying the absolute truth of Christianity. The only great thing of the ending is that the titan owners, who had a lot of death flags, survived and even had their limit of years of life removed. And some other good details were how Hange was shown somehow going to Heaven, and also Sasha appearing as a spirit, which didn't seem to be supposed to be illusions seen by the characters, but real things. Mahdir99 said: Any person who does not support mass genocide will support this ending. What the fuck? The mass genocide is precisely what happened, and was caused by the protagonist of the series, so it's obviously the other way around: Any person who does not support mass genocide will definitely not support this ending, with a trash of human who caused genocide being treated as if his actions were somehow justifiable. |
ColtBuntlineMay 31, 2021 5:25 PM
“Right is right even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong even if everyone is doing it.” ― Saint Augustine |
May 31, 2021 3:57 PM
#1624
Mummykun said: the thing is, brain dead people think if eren would've completed the rumbling, it would mean that it was right. lOL The shitty alliance thanked him after he killed 80% of the world, this garbage ending justifies mass genocide. I cant believe ramzi and halil died for this retcon shit ending Damn, I hate the pathetic ending that Levi had. He, who was supposed to be invincible super powerful character ended up losing an eye, three fingers, and the ability to walk properly, while all the other characters ended perfectly healthy, with a complete body. I already hated it when he got his first injuries, but then I was expecting that the author would find a way to make Levi act like a badass even without the fingers, but he ended up being almost useless in the final battle, and was even humiliated by Zeke, who basically asked to be killed by Levi, who had been grumbling about having the killing of Zeke as his goal, which sounded like the announcement of a final fight against the last boss that was bound to happen, but that was just another disappointment after all... And I'm quite sure that it hadn't been confirmed that Levi had lost the vision of his right eye until the last chapter, but unfortunately the eye was shown totally white, so that confirms it. And the same goes for his leg. I thought there was hope that his leg would be healed, but then he was drawn on a wheelchair just to make sure to let the readers know that he ended as a cripple. And the ending of the series as a whole was also terrible. Eren's conversation with Armin, which was supposed to explain why he did what he did, didn't really explain anything. It was a very stupid decision, and also very out of character. Considering the moral values that Eren had been defending up to that point, killing the majority of humanity could never be an option in his mind. It was very easy to notice that Zeke's solution was the more humane one, and it would have been a much better writing if a problem occurred that did not allow Zeke's plan to work, instead of making the protagonist of the series oppose it. Another terrible thing that appeared in one of the last chapters was that conversation between Zeke and Armin, in which Zeke defends the evolutionism bullshit, and says that people just live to reproduce the species, to which Armin replies with the existentialist argument, that life is pointless but can have meanings created according to one's subjective desires. This is a very dangerous line of thought, that leads people to become degenerates, disregarding the objectivity of moral values, and denying the absolute truth of Christianity. The only great thing of the ending is that the titan owners, who had a lot of death flags, survived and even had their limit of years of life removed. And some other good details were how Hange was shown somehow going to Heaven, and also Sasha appearing as a spirit, which didn't seem to be supposed to be illusions seen by the characters, but real things. Mahdir99 said: Any person who does not support mass genocide will support this ending. What the fuck? The mass genocide is precisely what happened, and was caused by the protagonist of the series, so it's obviously the other way around: Any person who does not support mass genocide will definitely not support this ending, with a trash of human who caused genocide being treated as if his actions were somehow justifiable. |
Attack on Titan ended with chapter 123 and 130/131 is the epilogue |
May 31, 2021 6:57 PM
#1625
Man all i can say that i waste 5 years of my life to see this ugly ending. I feel sad for Eren, he loves Mikasa and want to stay with her also he want to live peaceful life, but all gone for nothing. Really Eren is an oppressed character, i really wanted to see him happy, but the stupid author.. I don’t have any words to describe this horrible ending . 5/10 |
Jun 2, 2021 5:28 AM
#1626
I, uh, am not sure what happened, but i guess Isayama had a different idea of what he was writing. |
Jun 2, 2021 5:29 AM
#1627
peak ending its so good its so perfect much wow |
Jun 2, 2021 9:12 AM
#1628
I just want to see the comments of the people defending the ending coz they are funny af |
Jun 2, 2021 11:17 AM
#1629
So where is the masterpiece? |
Jun 2, 2021 11:44 AM
#1630
CesarMagnan said: Gone after 123, it was back for 130/131 and then went to shit for goodSo where is the masterpiece? |
Attack on Titan ended with chapter 123 and 130/131 is the epilogue |
Jun 9, 2021 2:25 AM
#1631
2/10,After the time i post this,all of my love,all of my memories,all of something i adore from my fav and first anime,Attack on Titan, Vanished. What a shame,the memories and everything we've been through must come to an end that no one wants it in a horrible way,The buildup for Eren plan,The rumbling it's all ruined by the Anticlimatic happy bruh moment ending, F-ck you yams for making this awful ending instead of End of Evangelion,i always praise aot as the real eva successor,but you make it to code geass instead. My bias and memories wont let me rate this a 2 i though my aot bias is dethroned after i finish the whole monogatari series and after completing jojo steel ball run,but too late,both have take over aot,now i don't give a shit about this again anymore,from number 1 to number 3,what a shame... |
Jun 9, 2021 2:32 AM
#1632
Now that the dust has settled and even normies and twitter stans lost their care about SnK... Was this the worst ending in the manga history? |
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Jun 9, 2021 7:06 AM
#1633
Shadzzo said: Very subjective question, since it cannot be said that it is the worst ending, because there are too many.Now that the dust has settled and even normies and twitter stans lost their care about SnK... Was this the worst ending in the manga history? Although in my case, for me it is the worst ending I have ever seen (the only one I have seen so far that is almost as bad, is erased). I am not a fan of AOT, but I always felt "respect" to the series for how good it was, until the end came, with plot holes, poorly developed themes, some character contradictions and unnecessary things, in addition to the fact that the basis of the story (which would be why the titans existed because of ymir) is very poorly explained and has very little logic. That does not mean that the series is good, it had its moments, but the final arc together with the end make it look very bad that at some point it could have been remembered very well. I can still enjoy the series, but personally I will not see it again as before. Maybe in a few years, when there is not so much fanaticism, it will be better analyzed. |
a wise user of MAL said: Just to clarify, adaptations should absolutely stand on their own |
Jun 9, 2021 7:51 AM
#1634
Mummykun said: Damn, I hate the pathetic ending that Levi had. He, who was supposed to be the invincible super powerful character ended up losing an eye, three fingers, and the ability to walk properly, while all the other characters ended perfectly healthy, with a complete body. I already hated it when he got his first injuries, but then I was expecting that the author would find a way to make Levi act like a badass even without the fingers, but he ended up being almost useless in the final battle, and was even humiliated by Zeke, who basically asked to be killed by Levi, who had been grumbling about having the killing of Zeke as his goal, which sounded like the announcement of a final fight against the last boss that was bound to happen, but that was just another disappointment after all... And I'm quite sure that it hadn't been confirmed that Levi had lost the vision of his right eye until the last chapter, but unfortunately the eye was shown totally white, so that confirms it. And the same goes for his leg. I thought there was hope that his leg would be healed, but then he was drawn on a wheelchair just to make sure to let the readers know that he ended as a cripple. I hated seeing him in that state too especially that everyone else had to continue their lives happily even the wrriors who don't deserve it tbh. But u can't say he was useless even in that state he managed to save Jean and Connie's lives and even without that after Hange's death if Levi wasn't with them they would ve all died or at least they wouldn't survive all together he was leading them and calming them kinda since Armin lost it XD |
Jun 9, 2021 7:36 PM
#1635
Shadzzo said: It's a hot competition between this & Usagi Drop. Really hard to tell which one is more disgusting.Now that the dust has settled and even normies and twitter stans lost their care about SnK... Was this the worst ending in the manga history? |
Jun 9, 2021 10:40 PM
#1636
Decided to catch up with SNK after the outrage and ... it's completely understandable , i was dissapointed , I just can't look at it positively , too chaotic and with an unsatisfying ending. Not really surprised though |
Jun 10, 2021 5:11 AM
#1637
Shadzzo said: Now that the dust has settled and even normies and twitter stans lost their care about SnK... Was this the worst ending in the manga history? I'm personally lukewarm on the ending so maybe I'm being too forgiving but I don't think in any sane world was this the "worst ending in manga history". You could probably make an argument for the worst ending to a popular manga but I'm sure there's way worse out there when considering the scope of every manga ever. I feel like "worst ending in manga history" is mere hyperbole. |
Jun 10, 2021 6:50 AM
#1638
Xilver said: I, uh, am not sure what happened, but i guess Isayama had a different idea of what he was writing. Thats just one of many interviews that contradicts his last one, and in general the ending we got. Ochkam razor would tell you this was a retcon+ damage control and public relations management, either forced or sold out of greed. |
Jun 10, 2021 8:22 AM
#1639
ShoriTora said: Shadzzo said: Now that the dust has settled and even normies and twitter stans lost their care about SnK... Was this the worst ending in the manga history? I'm personally lukewarm on the ending so maybe I'm being too forgiving but I don't think in any sane world was this the "worst ending in manga history". You could probably make an argument for the worst ending to a popular manga but I'm sure there's way worse out there when considering the scope of every manga ever. I feel like "worst ending in manga history" is mere hyperbole. But it is the worst ending in manga history. In fact for me it's the worst ending of any story in any form or medium. Can you name a manga with a worse ending? |
Jun 10, 2021 8:42 AM
#1640
shyn_M21 said: ShoriTora said: Shadzzo said: Now that the dust has settled and even normies and twitter stans lost their care about SnK... Was this the worst ending in the manga history? I'm personally lukewarm on the ending so maybe I'm being too forgiving but I don't think in any sane world was this the "worst ending in manga history". You could probably make an argument for the worst ending to a popular manga but I'm sure there's way worse out there when considering the scope of every manga ever. I feel like "worst ending in manga history" is mere hyperbole. But it is the worst ending in manga history. In fact for me it's the worst ending of any story in any form or medium. Can you name a manga with a worse ending? I don't think its fair to say its the worst manga ending in history when you've only read 12 manga, you can say its the worst manga ending you've seen, but saying its the worst manga ending ever when you only have a small pool of manga to compare them to of your own experience to I feel is unfair. Also, of the limited manga I've read, I'd say the ending to Seven Deadly Sins was very disappointing, or rather just had a very gradual decline which just made it unenjoyable for a large portion of the final 70-80 chapters of the story. I feel like when compared to the AOT ending at least AOT attempted to play with its themes such as the idea of inherited will in interesting ways. Seven Deadly Sins ending is just kinda seeing how many characters can they fight with minimal set up and no character development apart from one character who I think's ending is really nice. Seven Deadly Sins didn't really have that for me, the final 20 or so chapters in particular just felt like just a drag to set up for the sequel manga (AOT on the other hand does feel like a conclusion, and I don't think the extra pages confirm a sequel according to apparently popular belief, Isayama and his editor have echoed this sentiment that they have no plans for one). Also with Seven Deadly Sins the dip in quality had been going on for a while whereas my issues with the final arc only really start to appear around 126, which between that and chapter 139 take up less than 10% of the entire story. Anyway yh my point stands that I don't think calling it the "worst ending in manga history" is a fair literal statement, and is greatly exaggerated. Saying "for me it's the worst ending of any story" I think is a fairer comparison if u know what I'm saying. |
Jun 10, 2021 9:06 AM
#1641
ShoriTora said: shyn_M21 said: ShoriTora said: Shadzzo said: Now that the dust has settled and even normies and twitter stans lost their care about SnK... Was this the worst ending in the manga history? I'm personally lukewarm on the ending so maybe I'm being too forgiving but I don't think in any sane world was this the "worst ending in manga history". You could probably make an argument for the worst ending to a popular manga but I'm sure there's way worse out there when considering the scope of every manga ever. I feel like "worst ending in manga history" is mere hyperbole. But it is the worst ending in manga history. In fact for me it's the worst ending of any story in any form or medium. Can you name a manga with a worse ending? I don't think its fair to say its the worst manga ending in history when you've only read 12 manga, you can say its the worst manga ending you've seen, but saying its the worst manga ending ever when you only have a small pool of manga to compare them to of your own experience to I feel is unfair. Also, of the limited manga I've read, I'd say the ending to Seven Deadly Sins was very disappointing, or rather just had a very gradual decline which just made it unenjoyable for a large portion of the final 70-80 chapters of the story. I feel like when compared to the AOT ending at least AOT attempted to play with its themes such as the idea of inherited will in interesting ways. Seven Deadly Sins ending is just kinda seeing how many characters can they fight with minimal set up and no character development apart from one character who I think's ending is really nice. Seven Deadly Sins didn't really have that for me, the final 20 or so chapters in particular just felt like just a drag to set up for the sequel manga (AOT on the other hand does feel like a conclusion, and I don't think the extra pages confirm a sequel according to apparently popular belief, Isayama and his editor have echoed this sentiment that they have no plans for one). Also with Seven Deadly Sins the dip in quality had been going on for a while whereas my issues with the final arc only really start to appear around 126, which between that and chapter 139 take up less than 10% of the entire story. Anyway yh my point stands that I don't think calling it the "worst ending in manga history" is a fair literal statement, and is greatly exaggerated. Saying "for me it's the worst ending of any story" I think is a fairer comparison if u know what I'm saying. First of all I didn't read only 12 mangas i dont manage this account very well.i actually read more manga than anime because it usually is better and faster and kinda a preference. Second, although i agree the ending(imo the whole last 10 volumes) of seven deadly sins were the weakest point of the series it still didnt destroy everything that came before. Like i can still read or watch sdd and enjoy it for what it is. Or i can giva you another example: tokyo ghoul re's ending. Despite how the dragon arc was rushed and ishida's writing went downhill it was still satisfying and didn't destroyed or ret conned kaneki's character. The ending itself was really good but the road to it could have been better. Now compare them to aot. Almost every character gets absolutely butchered(especially eren and reiner), it creates plotholes, ret conns, unanswered questions and destroying the whole series at least for me. I can no longer watch s1 again or read the first volume and enjoy it. And did you really say aot attempted to "play with it themes"? It completely ignored them! The sins of the father, the cycle of hatred,freedom,etc none of the gets resolved. The only ending i can think of to compare to thos is got s8 and imo this is worse. Got's writing started to go downhill at the last episode of s4 when it ignored the tysha story line and cutted the conversation between jaime and Tyrion. And even after s8 i wasnt as dissatisfied as i am now because at least i had the books and hope for martin and the source material. But this IS the source material. Its not some anime changing ending thing so i can say "well thats too bad. But at least i have the manga" so yeah,thats why i think its the worst ending in manga history imo. At least domestic girlfriend was just a harem romance bs from the start. Not a potential masterpiece! |
Jun 10, 2021 11:39 AM
#1642
shyn_M21 said: ShoriTora said: shyn_M21 said: ShoriTora said: Shadzzo said: Now that the dust has settled and even normies and twitter stans lost their care about SnK... Was this the worst ending in the manga history? I'm personally lukewarm on the ending so maybe I'm being too forgiving but I don't think in any sane world was this the "worst ending in manga history". You could probably make an argument for the worst ending to a popular manga but I'm sure there's way worse out there when considering the scope of every manga ever. I feel like "worst ending in manga history" is mere hyperbole. But it is the worst ending in manga history. In fact for me it's the worst ending of any story in any form or medium. Can you name a manga with a worse ending? I don't think its fair to say its the worst manga ending in history when you've only read 12 manga, you can say its the worst manga ending you've seen, but saying its the worst manga ending ever when you only have a small pool of manga to compare them to of your own experience to I feel is unfair. Also, of the limited manga I've read, I'd say the ending to Seven Deadly Sins was very disappointing, or rather just had a very gradual decline which just made it unenjoyable for a large portion of the final 70-80 chapters of the story. I feel like when compared to the AOT ending at least AOT attempted to play with its themes such as the idea of inherited will in interesting ways. Seven Deadly Sins ending is just kinda seeing how many characters can they fight with minimal set up and no character development apart from one character who I think's ending is really nice. Seven Deadly Sins didn't really have that for me, the final 20 or so chapters in particular just felt like just a drag to set up for the sequel manga (AOT on the other hand does feel like a conclusion, and I don't think the extra pages confirm a sequel according to apparently popular belief, Isayama and his editor have echoed this sentiment that they have no plans for one). Also with Seven Deadly Sins the dip in quality had been going on for a while whereas my issues with the final arc only really start to appear around 126, which between that and chapter 139 take up less than 10% of the entire story. Anyway yh my point stands that I don't think calling it the "worst ending in manga history" is a fair literal statement, and is greatly exaggerated. Saying "for me it's the worst ending of any story" I think is a fairer comparison if u know what I'm saying. First of all I didn't read only 12 mangas i dont manage this account very well.i actually read more manga than anime because it usually is better and faster and kinda a preference. Second, although i agree the ending(imo the whole last 10 volumes) of seven deadly sins were the weakest point of the series it still didnt destroy everything that came before. Like i can still read or watch sdd and enjoy it for what it is. Or i can giva you another example: tokyo ghoul re's ending. Despite how the dragon arc was rushed and ishida's writing went downhill it was still satisfying and didn't destroyed or ret conned kaneki's character. The ending itself was really good but the road to it could have been better. Now compare them to aot. Almost every character gets absolutely butchered(especially eren and reiner), it creates plotholes, ret conns, unanswered questions and destroying the whole series at least for me. I can no longer watch s1 again or read the first volume and enjoy it. And did you really say aot attempted to "play with it themes"? It completely ignored them! The sins of the father, the cycle of hatred,freedom,etc none of the gets resolved. The only ending i can think of to compare to thos is got s8 and imo this is worse. Got's writing started to go downhill at the last episode of s4 when it ignored the tysha story line and cutted the conversation between jaime and Tyrion. And even after s8 i wasnt as dissatisfied as i am now because at least i had the books and hope for martin and the source material. But this IS the source material. Its not some anime changing ending thing so i can say "well thats too bad. But at least i have the manga" so yeah,thats why i think its the worst ending in manga history imo. At least domestic girlfriend was just a harem romance bs from the start. Not a potential masterpiece! Honestly I thought tokyo ghoul re's ending was pretty good, it was rushed but I maybe because I'd already been told and expected it to but I didn't rly have a big issue with it. Tokyo ghoul's good I gotta reread it someday. Anyway talking about AOT: Eren and Freedom - I'm not a big fan of Eren's presentation in the final chapter but I don't think it ruins him or changes his entire character. I like the idea that freedom is an almost impossible dream and Eren wasn't able to reach it, and now Armin and the Ambassadors are trying to make the best out of Eren's Rumbling by continuing to move past that freedom as humans, not as titans, if that's what you mean. That also links to the ending pages where Paradis gets attacked (not destroyed or the kid, who we can assume is Mikasa's descendant, wouldn't be alive) and the kid lives on, continuing the legacy of those who passed (which links back to Erwin's speech before the suicide charge about how the future generation will continue to legacy of the past lives and that's how that's how one day, as long as people continue to carry those past dreams, the fight for freedom will continue and perhaps one day may be realised) My point is basically I think the theme of freedom is really well executed and I like how Eren's character was incorporated into that. Eren, genocide, and the cycle of hatred - The scene with him crying about Mikasa will always kinda make me cringe but thats the idea, Armin even calls it pathetic. Also I see a lot of people say its weird that Eren's crying over Mikasa and not killing millions of people, but he has cried over that before, we see that in 131 and we see him tear up in the chapter when mentioning genocide and claiming it to be irredeemable. I feel like a lot of people claim the ending to be pro-genocide because of Armin thanking Eren, which I've always thought was pretty clear that Armin's glad Eren was trying to save his friends and the sentiment more than justifying his actions, in fact he even calls it an "error" and in the recent volume release it was even corrected to "greatest mistake" to further hammer that down, and also the ending pages, which I don't think is the case either. Going back to something Erwin said, in the uprising arc he stated that humanity would continue to fight each other even until there was only one or less people around. The point of Paradis being attacked (again not "destroyed", Paradis lives on in the symbolism of Mikasa's descendant) isn't the fact that Paradis is being attacked by foreign nations, but that conflict is inevitable, linking back to the idea of the cycle of hatred. However, if people keep fighting for that freedom, however unlikely, there's a chance that war can be resolved. Levi admitted in 136 that the survey corps dream of freedom and killing all titans was so idealistic because otherwise it wouldn't have been worth what they devoted, however by Mikasa freeing Ymir of her shackles and therefore removing the power of the titans those past lives were finally given some meaning even if full freedom wasn't achieved. Thus the same is potentially true for war, despite seeming so hard to break the cycle it is possible if people keep moving forward. Reiner - I can understand being disappointed by Eren in the final chapter, in some ways I was as well, but Reiner really didn't do anything to ruin his entire character in my eyes, in fact he did little of anything in the final chapter. He reconciles with his mum and sniffs a letter which sure is a weird scene but while it could've been achieved in better ways it portrays Reiner as starting to move past his previous mental state. I don't rly have a lot to say about this I just think it isnt that deep. The sins of the father - I don't rly get what u mean by this tbh. I think Grisha's character has been wrapped up nicely since paths if thats what you mean. Anyway this is my round about way of saying I don't think the endings as bad as people make it out to be in these cases. While not perfect, as I mentioned with the whole Reiner sniffing the letter thing, the sentiment is there but its still weird. I feel like people don't give the chapter a chance. I'm not telling u to have to agree with these or anything these are jsut my opinion on what u brought up agaisnt the chapter |
Jun 12, 2021 8:28 PM
#1643
ruined the whole thing retroactively, put it right next to Game Of Thrones, I can't believe how someone could write something at such a high caliber of quality for so long then right at the very last chapter ruin everything, rushed, out of character, azz pulls over azz pulls |
Jun 15, 2021 11:31 AM
#1644
ShoriTora said: shyn_M21 said: ShoriTora said: Shadzzo said: Now that the dust has settled and even normies and twitter stans lost their care about SnK... Was this the worst ending in the manga history? I'm personally lukewarm on the ending so maybe I'm being too forgiving but I don't think in any sane world was this the "worst ending in manga history". You could probably make an argument for the worst ending to a popular manga but I'm sure there's way worse out there when considering the scope of every manga ever. I feel like "worst ending in manga history" is mere hyperbole. But it is the worst ending in manga history. In fact for me it's the worst ending of any story in any form or medium. Can you name a manga with a worse ending? I don't think its fair to say its the worst manga ending in history when you've only read 12 manga, you can say its the worst manga ending you've seen, but saying its the worst manga ending ever when you only have a small pool of manga to compare them to of your own experience to I feel is unfair. Also, of the limited manga I've read, I'd say the ending to Seven Deadly Sins was very disappointing, or rather just had a very gradual decline which just made it unenjoyable for a large portion of the final 70-80 chapters of the story. I feel like when compared to the AOT ending at least AOT attempted to play with its themes such as the idea of inherited will in interesting ways. Seven Deadly Sins ending is just kinda seeing how many characters can they fight with minimal set up and no character development apart from one character who I think's ending is really nice. Seven Deadly Sins didn't really have that for me, the final 20 or so chapters in particular just felt like just a drag to set up for the sequel manga (AOT on the other hand does feel like a conclusion, and I don't think the extra pages confirm a sequel according to apparently popular belief, Isayama and his editor have echoed this sentiment that they have no plans for one). Also with Seven Deadly Sins the dip in quality had been going on for a while whereas my issues with the final arc only really start to appear around 126, which between that and chapter 139 take up less than 10% of the entire story. Anyway yh my point stands that I don't think calling it the "worst ending in manga history" is a fair literal statement, and is greatly exaggerated. Saying "for me it's the worst ending of any story" I think is a fairer comparison if u know what I'm saying. So an ending that dealt with all the remaining hinted plotlines and characters (NNT) is worse than plot-hole filled rushed ending (SNK)? Wake up. |
Jun 16, 2021 11:22 AM
#1645
k11chi said: ShoriTora said: shyn_M21 said: ShoriTora said: Shadzzo said: Now that the dust has settled and even normies and twitter stans lost their care about SnK... Was this the worst ending in the manga history? I'm personally lukewarm on the ending so maybe I'm being too forgiving but I don't think in any sane world was this the "worst ending in manga history". You could probably make an argument for the worst ending to a popular manga but I'm sure there's way worse out there when considering the scope of every manga ever. I feel like "worst ending in manga history" is mere hyperbole. But it is the worst ending in manga history. In fact for me it's the worst ending of any story in any form or medium. Can you name a manga with a worse ending? I don't think its fair to say its the worst manga ending in history when you've only read 12 manga, you can say its the worst manga ending you've seen, but saying its the worst manga ending ever when you only have a small pool of manga to compare them to of your own experience to I feel is unfair. Also, of the limited manga I've read, I'd say the ending to Seven Deadly Sins was very disappointing, or rather just had a very gradual decline which just made it unenjoyable for a large portion of the final 70-80 chapters of the story. I feel like when compared to the AOT ending at least AOT attempted to play with its themes such as the idea of inherited will in interesting ways. Seven Deadly Sins ending is just kinda seeing how many characters can they fight with minimal set up and no character development apart from one character who I think's ending is really nice. Seven Deadly Sins didn't really have that for me, the final 20 or so chapters in particular just felt like just a drag to set up for the sequel manga (AOT on the other hand does feel like a conclusion, and I don't think the extra pages confirm a sequel according to apparently popular belief, Isayama and his editor have echoed this sentiment that they have no plans for one). Also with Seven Deadly Sins the dip in quality had been going on for a while whereas my issues with the final arc only really start to appear around 126, which between that and chapter 139 take up less than 10% of the entire story. Anyway yh my point stands that I don't think calling it the "worst ending in manga history" is a fair literal statement, and is greatly exaggerated. Saying "for me it's the worst ending of any story" I think is a fairer comparison if u know what I'm saying. So an ending that dealt with all the remaining hinted plotlines and characters (NNT) is worse than plot-hole filled rushed ending (SNK)? Wake up. I mean I just elaborated on how I think some of the main themes were wrapped up well and characters resolved but feel free to just not read it ig thats cool too |
Jun 16, 2021 1:32 PM
#1646
People don't like the ending of Isayama, it's ok. But to say that ending was shit because you don't like it, jesus. I think the majority of people didn't even understand the message coming from the whole manga and the ending. Kinda sad |
Praise the Sun! That we are born in this era, to watch anime. |
Jun 16, 2021 2:47 PM
#1647
What are chapters 140 and 141? |
Jun 16, 2021 4:37 PM
#1648
MisutaaPurinsu said: https://myanimelist.net/manga/23390/Shingeki_no_Kyojin/moreinfoWhat are chapters 140 and 141? |
a wise user of MAL said: Just to clarify, adaptations should absolutely stand on their own |
Jun 16, 2021 6:17 PM
#1649
Asian-Warrior said: which message? genocide for 5 peoples? rape and abuse as true love? Fuck hacksayama and Shitgeki no pissjinPeople don't like the ending of Isayama, it's ok. But to say that ending was shit because you don't like it, jesus. I think the majority of people didn't even understand the message coming from the whole manga and the ending. Kinda sad |
Attack on Titan ended with chapter 123 and 130/131 is the epilogue |
Jun 16, 2021 8:33 PM
#1650
Shadzzo said: Now that the dust has settled and even normies and twitter stans lost their care about SnK... Was this the worst ending in the manga history? Attack on Titan doesn't have the worst ending in history but it definitely has one of the steepest drops in quality, which is why it hurts the most when you hit the ground |
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