| lmfao I used to be a person who thought vtubers were weird but look at me now the main thing that pushed me away at first was the mere idea of it. people pretending to be anime characters? the idea's quite strange on paper and it doesn't appeal to everyone. hell, it took me almost 20 clips and an episode of trash taste for me to fully be fine with the idea. i also think your introduction to them matters a lot. i have a friend that introduced me to them after i told them that i was interested and they pointed me in the direction of some that i'd like, and i think that's the main reason i like vtubers as much as i do now. if you, like some of the people that have previously commented here, discovered vtubers through holo no graffiti and noticed it was higher than a bunch of shows that you enjoy, it's pretty natural that you would resent both the fanbase and the talents. |
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| I hate Vtubers because they feel fake, I also hate streamers (twitch as a whole) streaming is the biggest waste of time. you watch someone sit at their pc for hours doing something you could probably do on your own and then the Viewers keep donating to someone you don't even personally know, if you just have money lying around maybe donate to a charity instead. I came to the conclusion that most of the viewers of streamers/Vtubers must have no job or hobby otherwise they wouldn't be able to spend so much time watching pointless streams. I think many of them are otakus living with their parents and stealing their moms credit card to donate to streams. This is just the picture I have of streamers/vtuber fans because of the things I've seen, you can try to change my view if you want. |
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| People who hate Vtubers are simply projecting there own self loathing and hate for other people due to there own inadequacies in life onto something which is tangible. Its an easy escape to hate something which does not seem real. And so a virtual character allows them to project there own self loathing outward, without thinking about the fact that these people are real people. Hate is a very strong emotion, to be honest I doubt people really hate vtubers, but from what I've seen simply human emotions of jealousy plays a big part. To be frank, we probably wouldnt even have this discussion thread if everyone stopped using twitter, which is a cesspool of hate. Im a massive fan of vtubers, I even subbed to a couple of my favs on youtube because I love there content, no different to I have subs to irl streamers on twitch as I like to support them. Anyone hating on a vtuber should probably look at themselves in a mirror and ask there reflection, why do I hurt this much that I hate someone else. |
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| I honestly feel gross watching them, it's an involuntary reaction. It's a combination of the shitty role playing, the pretending to be an anime character, and the fake voices. I'll probably get used to it if they get even bigger over the next few years, but for now I really don't like vtubers. |
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ghoulcustomer said: I honestly feel gross watching them, it's an involuntary reaction. It's a combination of the shitty role playing, the pretending to be an anime character, and the fake voices. I'll probably get used to it if they get even bigger over the next few years, but for now I really don't like vtubers. I thought the same at first. Until I got more into them. At this point I pretty much only watch Japanese ones. Hololive EN does a good job at emulating some of the things that makes the JP girls so successful, but a lot of indies do have that feel of 'fake voice, fake anime girl'. What makes the JP girls so good is that they're just playing themselves, putting their best face forward, while very lightly leaning on their character, usually with verbal tics, way of speech and voice, but never with personality, it's always their personality. Or whatever is left of it after streaming for hours pretty much everyday of their lives since joining Hololive. After getting to know them better, a loot better, it gets to a point that they made several genres of anime obsolete to me. Sometimes the individual talent isn't the best when by themselves, but the fact Hololive encourages constant collaborations between them, seeing them having fun together and the friendships the bloom and develop over time, and how the girls themselves change because of it is just wholesome. |
AiHikariSep 16, 2021 8:46 AM
| I just saw a article about a shit streamer, myth, go on stream and cry about vtubers. He was crying about the usual liberal sjw stuff. male POWER fantasy. Loli. And my favorite, BEAUTY STANDARDS. But the e whores like amouranth are ok. Lmfao |
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| Most of them probably feel the same way about anime, so it's the usual "degenerate, creep, etc." beliefs. Some probably feel weebs invaded their stream culture and don't like them for it. Some don't like egirls, and just see them as egirls praying on weebs. Some like egirls, and see them as unfair competition for egirls. Then there's the deranged people who genuinely think they're all men with voice changers or ugly, even when there's been known face reveals. Some say they hate their "uwu" voices, but they only want confirmation bias, so don't try giving them examples of normal voice vtubers. Some just think the models are uncanny and don't like them. Some are purist weebs who only like 100% fake anime girls. Some just hate streamers. Some can't fathom the idea of not seeing a streamers real face because privacy and anonymity be damned. Some hate to feel better. Some hate to hate. Some don't actually care, they just like making others mad. |
KrykJun 14, 2023 6:11 AM
| guess as someone that used to be into vtubers but dislikes them now, its not the streamers that are the issue for me but the community. It reminds me too much of the stupid console wars of the 2000s. No one can ever criticize Hololive or its obnoxious fanboys come crawling out of the 4chan basement they came from because its the "le hecking wholesome" vtuber multi million dollar corpo and indies/every other company outside of it are full of "wh0res" so it shouldnt be supported. I mean hell, Hololive fanboys stooping as far as to defend AI backgrounds being used in a recent stream when half the reason theyre there is because actual artists created the models they g00n over every day is what really got me out of this bubble. the weird corpo worship of the community just drove me away after a while. I see vtubing as a way for people to be fully themselves, not as a way for them to censor themselves to maximize as much profits as possible. If i want that i'll actually just waste my time watching professionally made shows/movies. |
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