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Losing your loved ones will push some people over the edge, especially if they feel responsible for their deaths. Rimuru needs to become a Demon Lord in order to revive his fallen companions and he's loves them so much he's willing to go to such lengths as to killing an army of 20k and using their souls to become one. Plus this army is planning to invade his nation, kill his people, and rape the women, they were going to be taken care of one way or another its just very likely they would of have been beaten down and sent packing instead of being outright massacred if they didn't spill the blood of his beloved family.

Also slime isn't just a happy go lucky series, we got dark stuff before such as with the orc disaster arc.

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Also this is war. Peaceful resolution is hard especially if at the start the enemy is winning the battles. If you want a quick win you need to deal huge damage to the enemy so they don't even think about trying to attack you again.

Mar 16, 2021 11:43 AM

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Bfun2468 said:
If Rimuru doesnt eat them, they will just die and their soles will just dissapear. Rimuru's kingsom still needs to be defended so either way the enemy needs to die.

"Every enemy soldier must die" isn't normal warfare though. Battles happen, some soldiers die, others are wounded, others escape both fates. While "all enemy combatants need to be slain" does happen, it is not the only mode of combat, nor is it even the default.

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edgefigaro said:
I find myself wishing that it had progressed in a way that got to a place between "we don't need to revere humans" and "its ok to eat hordes of them to save our friend." Stop eating the lvl1 defenseless soldiers. Go eat the generals and royalty and other high-level opponents then I would be fine with it.

Playing god huh...weighing lives and stuf- nvm just a thought of mine lol

Well, to be fair slime has always had some dark elements since the beginning...remember how Rimuru decapitated the wolf leader or how the Orcs slaughtered and ate other monsters...we prob just think this is more cruel since these are humans and not "mere" animals/furries🥴

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Mar 16, 2021 12:08 PM

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asapabri said:

edgefigaro said:
I find myself wishing that it had progressed in a way that got to a place between "we don't need to revere humans" and "its ok to eat hordes of them to save our friend." Stop eating the lvl1 defenseless soldiers. Go eat the generals and royalty and other high-level opponents then I would be fine with it.

Playing god huh...weighing lives and stuf- nvm just a thought of mine lol

Well, to be fair slime has always had some dark elements since the beginning...remember how Rimuru decapitated the wolf leader or how the Orcs slaughtered and ate other monsters...we prob just think this is more cruel since these are humans and not "mere" animals/furries🥴

Tbh he just destroys their sole in an instant. There isn't much cruelty going and who likes humans anyway if they are so stubborn and annoying. I would've done the same as Rimuru.

Mar 16, 2021 12:11 PM

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Bfun2468 said:

asapabri said:

Playing god huh...weighing lives and stuf- nvm just a thought of mine lol

Well, to be fair slime has always had some dark elements since the beginning...remember how Rimuru decapitated the wolf leader or how the Orcs slaughtered and ate other monsters...we prob just think this is more cruel since these are humans and not "mere" animals/furries🥴

Tbh he just destroys their sole in an instant. There isn't much cruelty going and who likes humans anyway if they are so stubborn and annoying. I would've done the same as Rimuru.

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asapabri said:

Bfun2468 said:

Tbh he just destroys their sole in an instant. There isn't much cruelty going and who likes humans anyway if they are so stubborn and annoying. I would've done the same as Rimuru.

What would you do if you were in Rimuru's position, be honest.

Also Rimuru didn't start the war, it's not his fault if they die.

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Watched the episode. The fun and bright anime went directly to genocide. Like, oh, let's kill these 10k soldiers, who have families and are only doing their job. Wtf. I really hate how the anime took such a sharp turn from really good, to genocide of humans. Agree with everything the OP wrote.

Anyway, changed my rating of this anime after this episode.

The revenge fights were great, but the genocide part is terrible.

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Bfun2468 said:

asapabri said:

What would you do if you were in Rimuru's position, be honest.

Also Rimuru didn't start the war, it's not his fault if they die.

I'm just jk lmaoo

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I mean it’s either he eats 20,000 people or the 20,000 people eat him

Mar 16, 2021 1:31 PM

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Bfun2468 said:
What would you do if you were in Rimuru's position, be honest.

This is not relevant. It is at a lower level than what I am talking about. Asapbri has it right:

asapabri said:
Playing god huh...weighing lives and stuf- nvm just a thought of mine lol

While my choice wouldn't be to use the term "god" this is the level I'm talking about.

The author chose to structure the story where eating 10000 people is the solution to a problem. Thus far, this has been presented to us in a rather nonchalant way.

These two things put together cause enough of a disconnect for me to post a thread on the forum about it.

The author could have chosen to present a different scenario. For example, resolve the situation by eating a big bad evil dude.
The author could have chosen to keep the same plotline, but not been so nonchalant about it. For example, if a supporting character was mortified about eating 10000 but Rimuru, in anger, decides to press on. This would be plausible, but as previously mentioned, I don't really feel this show is gritty enough to support that theme. The show thus far hasn't really tried to fit into a space where Rimuru is an anti-hero.

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edgefigaro said:

Bfun2468 said:
What would you do if you were in Rimuru's position, be honest.

This is not relevant. It is at a lower level than what I am talking about. Asapbri has it right:

asapabri said:
Playing god huh...weighing lives and stuf- nvm just a thought of mine lol

While my choice wouldn't be to use the term "god" this is the level I'm talking about.

The author chose to structure the story where eating 10000 people is the solution to a problem. Thus far, this has been presented to us in a rather nonchalant way.

These two things put together cause enough of a disconnect for me to post a thread on the forum about it.

The author could have chosen to present a different scenario. For example, resolve the situation by eating a big bad evil dude.
The author could have chosen to keep the same plotline, but not been so nonchalant about it. For example, if a supporting character was mortified about eating 10000 but Rimuru, in anger, decides to press on. This would be plausible, but as previously mentioned, I don't really feel this show is gritty enough to support that theme. The show thus far hasn't really tried to fit into a space where Rimuru is an anti-hero.

I haven't read any source material tho but I think it could have also just been the anime that lacked to portray it rightly properly

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-Mahesvara said:
Losing your loved ones will push some people over the edge, especially if they feel responsible for their deaths. Rimuru needs to become a Demon Lord in order to revive his fallen companions and he's loves them so much he's willing to go to such lengths as to killing an army of 20k and using their souls to become one. Plus this army is planning to invade his nation, kill his people, and rape the women, they were going to be taken care of one way or another its just very likely they would of have been beaten down and sent packing instead of being outright massacred if they didn't spill the blood of his beloved family.

Also slime isn't just a happy go lucky series, we got dark stuff before such as with the orc disaster arc.

I wonder if it is the "eating" part that makes me uncomfortable. I get the idea of "we need to defend ourselves against being raped and murdered. We are going to have to kill a whole bunch of them to do so." I feel like "we need to eat all of them" is another threshold beyond "we need to kill a bunch of them to defend ourselves from being raped and murdered." I feel like the show presents them at the same level, but I don't feel like they are the same.

This in turn makes me wonder why I am ok with all of the other eating scenes. Hmm. Maybe I'm not surprised that this show makes me examine the acceptable boundaries of vore?

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did you miss the part when rimuru and the gang have massacred 50k of orcs in season 1? it should be noted that these orcs were on the way to sis lake(lizardmen homeland) and then most likely to blumund kingdom

rimuru couldve just left these orcs alone, they wouldnt even visit jura tempest federation at all

so, now whats so bad about annihilating 20k of human soldiers who are about to invade jura tempest federation? lol

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edgefigaro said:

-Mahesvara said:
Losing your loved ones will push some people over the edge, especially if they feel responsible for their deaths. Rimuru needs to become a Demon Lord in order to revive his fallen companions and he's loves them so much he's willing to go to such lengths as to killing an army of 20k and using their souls to become one. Plus this army is planning to invade his nation, kill his people, and rape the women, they were going to be taken care of one way or another its just very likely they would of have been beaten down and sent packing instead of being outright massacred if they didn't spill the blood of his beloved family.

Also slime isn't just a happy go lucky series, we got dark stuff before such as with the orc disaster arc.

I wonder if it is the "eating" part that makes me uncomfortable. I get the idea of "we need to defend ourselves against being raped and murdered. We are going to have to kill a whole bunch of them to do so." I feel like "we need to eat all of them" is another threshold beyond "we need to kill a bunch of them to defend ourselves from being raped and murdered." I feel like the show presents them at the same level, but I don't feel like they are the same.

This in turn makes me wonder why I am ok with all of the other eating scenes. Hmm. Maybe I'm not surprised that this show makes me examine the acceptable boundaries of vore?

Think your taking the eating part to literally, he's only after their souls, not the actually physical flesh lol.

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-Mahesvara said:
]Think your taking the eating part to literally, he's only after their souls, not the actually physical flesh lol.

Yah, I've thought about this. It is somewhat difficult to make a meaningful distinction. How different is killing them all for the purposes of consuming their soul different from the same action for consuming their flesh?

However, if you are accusing me of using charged language to dramatize my point, color me guilty. It is intentional.

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edgefigaro said:

-Mahesvara said:
]Think your taking the eating part to literally, he's only after their souls, not the actually physical flesh lol.

Yah, I've thought about this. It is somewhat difficult to make a meaningful distinction. How different is killing them all for the purposes of consuming their soul different from the same action for consuming their flesh?

However, if you are accusing me of using charged language to dramatize my point, color me guilty. It is intentional.

The soul leaves the body upon death, remember? The magic barrier Rimuru placed is keep the souls from escaping.

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-Mahesvara said:
The soul leaves the body upon death, remember? The magic barrier Rimuru placed is keep the souls from escaping.

I feel like that detail makes it somewhat more monstrous. It is more clinical. Anyway, in both form and function, soul eating gluttony is so similar to the flesh-eating gluttony that it is difficult to draw meaningful distinctions between the two actions.

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edgefigaro said:

-Mahesvara said:
The soul leaves the body upon death, remember? The magic barrier Rimuru placed is keep the souls from escaping.

I feel like that detail makes it somewhat more monstrous. It is more clinical. Anyway, in both form and function, soul eating gluttony is so similar to the flesh-eating gluttony that it is difficult to draw meaningful distinctions between the two actions.

The soul eating is a necessary step to becoming a Demon Lord which will give him the power to revive his beloved comrades. Its a necessary evil for him.

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edgefigaro said:
I'm somewhat conflicted on how I view eating 10000 soldiers.

I really like that the show took humanity off a pedestal earlier this season when Rimuru made it home after the attack. But then that escalates quickly to into its OK to eat 10000 humans, genocide style.

If this was a darker show like Berserk or Code Gaess, I don't think I'd be conflicted, those shows are gritty enough to handle this kind of gritty theme. This is a rather light-hearted happy go lucky show. The reason Rimuru is even eating the army in the first place is to offer a happy go lucky resurrection to another character.

I find myself wishing that it had progressed in a way that got to a place between "we don't need to revere humans" and "its ok to eat hordes of them to save our friend." Stop eating the lvl1 defenseless soldiers. Go eat the generals and royalty and other high-level opponents then I would be fine with it.

I don't think "humanity" is the critical thing here either. I think it'd be just as uncomfortable if he was systematically eating goblins or orcs or dragonewts in the way presented.

Maybe this tension is intentional and will be addressed at some point in the future, idk.

The manga did it better where most of the solider knew what they where doing was wrong but the liked that, they showed 1 who also knew it was wrong but was doingit anyways for his family & there was also a conversation on rape the monster woman so I'm assuming rimuru heard that which lead to him being totally cold hearted which I liked

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Its a necessary evil for him.

I wish the show was more clear that Rimuru considered it a necessary evil. I wish he was conflicted. I wish the show's nearby characters were somewhat disturbed by what it happening.

The idea "we need to go harvest souls to reverse death" is an uncomfortable plotline for the heroes to have. That is traditionally the basis for a villainous destiny, not a heroic one.

Mar 16, 2021 3:43 PM

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edgefigaro said:
I wish he was conflicted.

You may be forgetting that Rimuru isn't a human anymore after reincarnation and his emotions may not be exactly what you could expect. When he was grieving next to Shion's body:

"All these intense emotions are raging in my head,
but at the same time, I'm painfully calm.
I can't even shed a single tear.
Oh, I get it.
I've become a monster at heart, too."

If you read the source material, you will probably get more satisfying exposure to Rimuru's feelings if that's what you're looking for. The anime has a limited runtime after all.

Also, no need to talk about eating/vore to exaggerate. It's not what's being depicted and just weakens your point.

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The soldier came to kill all the monsters with a spell making them sort of defenseless. And now ppl complain that he retaliates and kill soldiers with families and such, don't make me laugh it's war, plus they were on their way to exterminate them.
If that was the opposite with monster having killed a humain village, you would have no complain about some human heroes avenging them by killing monsters. For 1 episode and a half he's explaining he feels more monster than human. I don't see the issue. I would have disliked the show if he would have say 'no don't attack the army I will negotiate with them'.

On the contrary we at last witness a show that goes toward a different direction than your average shounen, let's see how it will turn out.

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skysurf said:
If you read the source material, you will probably get more satisfying exposure to Rimuru's feelings if that's what you're looking for. The anime has a limited runtime after all.

Also, no need to talk about eating/vore to exaggerate. It's not what's being depicted and just weakens your point.

Re: source material. I suspected as much, but there is a large enough hole for me to be curious.

Also, I'm using charged language because the show is downplaying what is happening. The heros are harvesting a mass quantity of souls to power a resurrection spell.

That shouldn't be downplayed.

No vore? I spent the entire episode wondering how soul harvesting worked and if it was related to gluttony. I get to the end of this episode and he hasn't started to physically consume them but he is certainly physically killing all of them for the purpose of consuming something. His power has been consuming things in the past. The episode ends and I still don't know how the whole soul-consumption thing is going to go. However, I'd come to the conclusion that the difference between physical consumption and soul consumption is trivial, it certainly is going to have the physical killing part along with the consumption part.

That is too late. I'm already uncomfortable. I'm curious as to why I'm uncomfortable. There are a lot of things in the show that I'm100% comfortable with. He has eaten a lot of other characters in the show and I never batted an eye. I'm curious as to where those distinctions lay.

If one of the sources of my discomfort is the eating part, I don't have a better term for it than vore. It has everything i'm looking for in a word. It is emotionally charged and kinda messed up term to describe something I am claiming to be more emotionally charged and messed up than presented.

ManteR said:
The soldier came to kill all the monsters with a spell making them sort of defenseless. And now ppl complain that he retaliates and kill soldiers with families and such, don't make me laugh it's war, plus they were on their way to exterminate them.
If that was the opposite with monster having killed a humain village, you would have no complain about some human heroes avenging them by killing monsters. For 1 episode and a half he's explaining he feels more monster than human. I don't see the issue. I would have disliked the show if he would have say 'no don't attack the army I will negotiate with them'.

On the contrary we at last witness a show that goes toward a different direction than your average shounen, let's see how it will turn out.

This isn't uncharted territory. This kind of a plotline typically runs through anti-heros. Rimuru certainly could be an anti-hero, but that would be a departure from how he is presented thus far.

I'm not complaining that he is killing soliders. I'm complaining that what he is doing seems to be pretty kinda genocideish. Maybe just a little bit genocideish. I'd be happy if it was just your traditional kill the enemy troops, minus the genocide parts.Which gets me wondering, where are the distinctions between the kill the enemy troops parts and the genocide parts?

I'm lazy though and I don't want to read the history of the geneva convention. So I made this thread instead.

This distinction is a long way away from me advocating "no don't attack the army I will negotiate with them."

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Thank you everyone for your insights! I understand why i feel conflicted about this much more now that when I initially posted.

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Re: source material

Just FYI the monologue I quoted is from the anime.

And it's ok if you felt uncomfortable with the scenes. A ruthless war is being portrayed so there aren't easy "good and bad" actions. I'll quote myself from another post:

skysurf said:
(...) the context is war, no clear lines of good and bad. Tempest city is under siege, got attacked already with dead bodies piled up in the streets and they were being held captive with a barrier that also made them defenseless and were scheduled to being completely destroyed after a few days.

To the survivors, it doesn't matter if the soldiers have families or were forced to serve in the army or whatever, all those soldiers were marching to kill them all later on. That's why they're forced to fight back with all their might to ensure their survival. (...)

So with all the background context and the insights we get into Rimuru's non-human emotions, I wouldn't say it's being downplayed, but I understand how you can see it that way.

Last thing, about genocide, a quick definition is:

Genocide, the deliberate and systematic destruction of a group of people because of their ethnicity, nationality, religion, or race.

So if anything, it was the Falmuth empire the ones who were in the process of committing genocide against the monster race with the excuse of them being "enemies of God" (as usual, the real reason is about power and money, which gives a good touch of credibility to the story).

Tempest citizens killing invading soldiers doesn't seem to fit that description since they're not killing the soldiers because they're humans, but because the soldiers are about to kill them otherwise.

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Watched the episode. The fun and bright anime went directly to genocide. Like, oh, let's kill these 10k soldiers, who have families and are only doing their job. Wtf. I really hate how the anime took such a sharp turn from really good, to genocide of humans. Agree with everything the OP wrote.

Anyway, changed my rating of this anime after this episode.

The revenge fights were great, but the genocide part is terrible.

I understand your perspective I feel the same way watching season 2 makes me nervous watching an episode before in season 1 I could watch it no problem but the soldiers weren't only going to kill the citizens of Tempest because it's their job they also seem to enjoy participating as one of the soldiers said "some of the women are beautiful" followed up by "first come first serve" implying that they were gonna rape the women although the genocide is bad Rimuru has to do it to save his people/family and save them from being wiped out and he has to "fall from grace" as Rimuru's been told before to evolve into a Demon Lord and he needs 10K human souls to become a True Demon Lord

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I see it as rimiru realised he's a monster and while we're all conflicted about genocide on humanity . We're not really seeing that isn't what the soldiers done just as wrong. Monsters are being discriminated under no basis. And for the sharp turn, most op MC animes are happy go lucky, so if we don't see that MC put his powers to use like this in a different way where he is still a hero if you look at it in perspective of his own people, then I'd say it wouldn't be as enjoyable.

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”GENOCIDE!"

Pfff, stop being this cringe guys.

Watch GATE Anime, where the pacifist Japanese Defense Forces had to deal with an agression by low-technology equiped armies from the fantasy world, killed +100.000 enemy soldiers in a blink of an eye, had to deal with all the bureaucracy of Japanese Government, in a Democracy under State of Law and Human Rights, in order to get authorization to that and when facing its aftermath, and never, never was acused of genocide.

That's war! And more yet, Self-Defense. And none civilian was kilked.

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"Youm, be the New King of Falmuth and make good relations with us"

- But Rimuru, i think i will have issues with the seek for revenge by the families of the +10k guys you've killed.

"I never said that would be a Democracy, Youm (Build a Memorial and start a Holiday, whatever) "

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Huh? What is wrong with eating 10000 hostile soldiers who are about to destroy your hometown? It's war, not some friendly mock battles :)

If eating 10000 hostile soldiers is required to resurrect my fallen friends then I would be totally happy to do so, nothing illegal~

edgefigaro said:

Stop eating the lvl1 defenseless soldiers. Go eat the generals and royalty and other high-level opponents then I would be fine with it.

defenseless or not, generals or footmen, in the end they are still hostile humans to Rimuru and his friends. I dont see any points why Rimuru should make some exception to defenseless soldiers.

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Take responsibility, Rimuru.

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edgefigaro said:

I find myself wishing that it had progressed in a way that got to a place between "we don't need to revere humans" and "its ok to eat hordes of them to save our friend." Stop eating the lvl1 defenseless soldiers. Go eat the generals and royalty and other high-level opponents then I would be fine with it.

I don't think "humanity" is the critical thing here either. I think it'd be just as uncomfortable if he was systematically eating goblins or orcs or dragonewts in the way presented.

Maybe this tension is intentional and will be addressed at some point in the future, idk.

Firstly, Rimuru's kingdom was attacked by Falmuth's forces for the sole purpose of greed and if we're talking about genocide then let's dissect exactly why the Western Saints Church approved this attack on Tempest. Simple, they're monsters making them automatically enemies of humanity, just for that they'll have to be wiped out which is the purest definition of genocide.

Secondly, "stop eating the lvl1 defenseless soldiers", are you joking right now? They are literally soldiers who are making their march towards Tempest armed and ready not to mention these same "level 1' soldiers put a barrier over tempest and then proceeded to kill everyone they laid their eyes on including the most innocent, the children and they laughed while they committed to these killings. These "level 1" soldiers are completely aware of what they're doing, it wasn't included in the anime but there was a soldier (I'll assume there were probably others like him as well) that's shown to have "integrity" because while the other soldiers were talking about raping the females of Tempest to relieve themselves, he showed visible contempt towards their conversation and excused himself to prepare his weaponry for their full army invasion to Tempest. During this sequence, he was having an inner monologue thinking about how he doesn't personally have anything against Tempest but "He's gotta what he's gotta do". Sorry buddy, but I can definitely get behind "Let's kill off the enemies that attacked and killed my people to resurrect the lives that have been lost due to them" vs "I gotta do what I gotta do", f*** outta here with that garbage.

Furthermore, "Go eat the generals and royalty and other high-level opponents then I would be fine with it." Who do you think is leading this army to wipe out Tempest? The literal King of Falmuth and his closest aides. You're letting your concept of strong be blurred by the incredible outlier of Rimuru and his geneology. The soldiers are not weak in general, they brought thousands of soldiers plus mages. The church sent 4000 troops divided into 3000 professional demon exterminators and made a special exception to deploy 1000 knights who far stronger than the other troops.

Moreover, about your perspective of "Humanity isn't the critical thing here" is unfortunately flawed because this is a biological fact that human empathy and compassion towards species decreases with evolutionary divergence which is basically just saying humans have a significant bias when it comes to such feelings for other species. This is showcased simply by your statement of leave the "level 1 soldiers alone" meanwhile let's ignore the fact that the predicament they're currently in is due to how they literally waltz into a country and killed innocent life including children and their families. It's alright though, you can't really help being influenced by your subconscious but I digress.

Lastly. A wise king never seeks out war. But he must always be ready for it.

With that in mind and the lesson Rimuru has learned from all this, I am completely in support of his actions. Hell, make it a 100,000 soldiers and it makes zero difference to me except for the benefit derived of having extra souls around for future possible needs and putting every other enemy of Tempest on alert, letting them know that if you ask to see the boss we'll send him.

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