Attack on Titan
Nostalgik said: AnimeBaka_ said: No, dont discard that question just like that, it's very plausible. Them being kids, it would have made sense to bring even if ONE single adult from the military to control their actions and make sure they were keeping up with the mission.There are many pure titans surrounding walls. so normal man cant go they need titans. It seems you are a new watcher who skips some scenes and finshes the anime soon. On the way to Paradis, the kids would be in charge of protecting said adult, Obviously. Wasn't that like brought up twice, first in episode 3 of the final seaosn and then by Piek again in episode 4? Pretty sure its the incompetence of Marley. |
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feo_san said: Also remember that you are watching everything in translation. The "Colossal titan" is not really called "colossal". It is "Chō ōgata Kyojin" - basically just "Very Big Titan", something that anyone would say just by looking at it. Yes and as far as I know, the japansese alse call them "giants" and not titans. |
HeadsUpPlease said: SHUBHAM019 said: Can anyone please tell me some of the plotholes in Attack on Titan. I am interested in knowing them ( I have a few of my own ) . Manga readers please stay out of it and do not use content ahead of ep 9 of season 4 for whatsoever the reason . This is my kind request to you Manga readers . I love how no one is talking about Armin surviving a 50 meter fall after getting burned by the colossal titan. Edit: Oh, someone did actually mention that, well I guess it's an actual plothole. You can fall from massive height and still live for a few minutes or even hours, you can read about cases like those in reality. Armin got severly injured and was about to die, if not from fall then from severe burn. He got injected and saved. |
| Not sure if this was mention yet but in season 1 episode 5 how the heck did Eren managed to save Armin from getting eaten by that titan? One of his legs were broken and he was laying on the ground when Armin was getting eaten. In his current condition, I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have made it in time before Armin got eaten. |
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yummyconny said: Not sure if I’m reaching but in the first episode of season 1 you can see car « tracks? » in the street. It could’ve been a chariot but there were no horse tracks. Also if you look closely Reiner spit fire but never did it again. And also Reiner never did the mind transfer to another part of his body ever again, it looked like plot armor. I can’t think of much else, this anime is great That wasn't fire. It was just steam. |
| Does AoT have plotholes? No, or at least while it hasn't been explained in the manga, it can be explained in common sense. Does AoT have a lot of plot convenience? YES. Aside from the ones mentioned and the ones that weren't mentioned here that were in the anime, there are a lot in the manga. |
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| If only Eldian can use titan as well as transform into pure titan, why are they still willingly slaved by Marleyan all these years? Even without Founding Titan, the other titans themselves already have more than enough destructive power. Titans have been these strong way before Marleyan and other countries own new technologies, namely anti-titan cannon. I knew that Founding Titan is dumb, but not other titan holders right as they aren't even control by Founding Titan at all. |
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HeadsUpPlease said: SHUBHAM019 said: Can anyone please tell me some of the plotholes in Attack on Titan. I am interested in knowing them ( I have a few of my own ) . Manga readers please stay out of it and do not use content ahead of ep 9 of season 4 for whatsoever the reason . This is my kind request to you Manga readers . I love how no one is talking about Armin surviving a 50 meter fall after getting burned by the colossal titan. Edit: Oh, someone did actually mention that, well I guess it's an actual plothole. That's more plot armour (and a rather bullshit one at that) than plot hole tbh |
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| This is more of a question than a claim but when a piece of the wall broke and a titan's face appeared in it, Why did no one do anything ? Most of the soldiers saw it and they just...cover it up ?, I'd understand for the priest to do something like that since he's (I'd predict) trying to cover things up and stuff, But what about the others ?, Their biggest defense turned out to be their biggest danger and they kinda just put a big blanket over him and sweep the whole thing under the rug ? |
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SHUBHAM019 said: I have answered this many times . Many people in real life have survived from exposure to radiation so this is possible . I know its a bit stretched but its not to far fetched People don't care about him surviving the burning they are concerned with him surviving the massive fall while he's basically a charred corpse. |
SHUBHAM019 said: I have answered this many times . Many people in real life have survived from exposure to radiation so this is possible . I know its a bit stretched but its not to far fetched Armin suffered through intense heat/burns to the point where his skin was pretty much burned off. That looses a lot of the bodies natural protection He fell from a height roughly ~40m (if we take 60m for titan - ~20m for house height though that's a rough guess), landed on the hard surfaced support part of the home on effectively his spine. Coupled with before his already severely damaged body that's pretty much an insta death Sure people can survive high falls (though in most cases they have at least something to break their fall somewhat). Sure people can survive heavy burns (though 3rd or maybe even higher degree burns across the whole body? yea ok), but combining the two is pretty much a certain insta death. And even if you do consider it to be in the realms of possibility, it's still pretty reaching to call it "not too far fetched" Plus. regardless if you find it faulty or not, it's still plot armour at the end of the day. Guaranteed any other character bar Mikasa or Eren would have been dead then and there, hell look at Sasha she literally took a single bullet and fell dead |
Short_CircutFeb 8, 2021 8:34 PM
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Nalusa_Falaya said: This is more of a question than a claim but when a piece of the wall broke and a titan's face appeared in it, Why did no one do anything ? Most of the soldiers saw it and they just...cover it up ?, I'd understand for the priest to do something like that since he's (I'd predict) trying to cover things up and stuff, But what about the others ?, Their biggest defense turned out to be their biggest danger and they kinda just put a big blanket over him and sweep the whole thing under the rug ? Blanket to cover it from the sun. Mindless titans not under zekes control need sunlight to move around, hence the blanket. And I'm sure they didn't want to go around telling civilians that they are surrounded by millions of colossal titans at the time. I'm pretty sure they know now though because of the transparent government under Historia. And no, the wall titans are not their biggest danger. It is their biggest weapon which is the whole point of this entire season revealed since episode 5. |
TaltibaltiFeb 8, 2021 8:40 PM
Taltibalti said: Nalusa_Falaya said: This is more of a question than a claim but when a piece of the wall broke and a titan's face appeared in it, Why did no one do anything ? Most of the soldiers saw it and they just...cover it up ?, I'd understand for the priest to do something like that since he's (I'd predict) trying to cover things up and stuff, But what about the others ?, Their biggest defense turned out to be their biggest danger and they kinda just put a big blanket over him and sweep the whole thing under the rug ? Blanket to cover it from the sun. Mindless titans not under zekes control need sunlight to move around, hence the blanket. And I'm sure they didn't want to go around telling civilians that they are surrounded by millions of colossal titans at the time. I'm pretty sure they know now though because of the transparent government under Historia. Yeah, I understand the use of the blanket but I just don't get why it's not a big deal for them, Most soldiers shit their pants when they have to fight a titan, But when the wall turned out to have a titan IN IT they didn't question or make a fuss out of it ? |
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SHUBHAM019 said: I have answered this many times . Many people in real life have survived from exposure to radiation so this is possible . I know its a bit stretched but its not to far fetched Well, can you give examples of those people who survived exposure to radiation? And radiation for fraction of seconds (like Bugorski) doesn't count since even that almost killed him if it was directed in the wrong direction. And even the part of his brain that got destroyed didn't recover since it was completely destroyed. idk how much radiation does Colossal titan can do, but I'd say it's about 10,000 rads at maximum (1,000 rads is enough to kill everyone btw) and even if Armin withstand that, he also survive a 50 meter fall in which a normal person can't survive a 50 meter fall. Even if you said that Vesna survive a 10,160 meter fall, there are people who dies from initially 0 meter fall (556,000 people died in 2013 from slip-and-fall accidents). So however you put it, Armin's scene is just plain plot armor. |
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Tyraq said: The only thing I can think of is that ymir's titan forms appearance didn't change even after eating marcel. Idk if they explained about it. Ymir gained sharp teeth and way more muscle lelouch4britanni said: The only one I can think of ..I'm not so sure because AOT is so well written there are few to no plot holes. How did Reiner hide inside the wall if there are titans inside. Titans make up the wall so how did Reiner hide inside. He hid in the wall that contains the gate. Those walls do not have titans in them. |
Nalusa_Falaya said: Taltibalti said: Blanket to cover it from the sun. Mindless titans not under zekes control need sunlight to move around, hence the blanket. And I'm sure they didn't want to go around telling civilians that they are surrounded by millions of colossal titans at the time. I'm pretty sure they know now though because of the transparent government under Historia. Yeah, I understand the use of the blanket but I just don't get why it's not a big deal for them, Most soldiers shit their pants when they have to fight a titan, But when the wall turned out to have a titan IN IT they didn't question or make a fuss out of it ? Hange did question and make a fuss out of it. It's the reason why they kidnapped that priest and asked him questions. If you rewatch s2 ep 1 the only people who saw the titan in the wall were the survey corps and I'm certain they didn't want to spread news of it and get the attention of the military police. Although it did end up happening which resulted in the death of that priest. Keep in mind the events from s1-s3p2 spanned barely even half a year. There were just too many things going and instead of panicking they wanted answers. |
SHUBHAM019 said: Taltibalti said: whole season 2 happened in 1 day I thinkHange did question and make a fuss out of it. It's the reason why they kidnapped that priest and asked him questions. If you rewatch s2 ep 1 the only people who saw the titan in the wall were the survey corps and I'm certain they didn't want to spread news of it and get the attention of the military police. Although it did end up happening which resulted in the death of that priest. Keep in mind the events from s1-s3p2 spanned barely even half a year. There were just too many things going and instead of panicking they wanted answers. No way it lasted 1 day. I would say at least a week. Cause we've seen day and night cycles. First episode(Day), Utgard Castle(Night), R&B betrayal(Day? was really cloudy) |
SHUBHAM019 said: ren0080 said: I am not saying it's not plot armor . I agree on that point. I was just saying that it's plausible as many extreme cases have happened in real life . For example when I watched a biography web series 'Chernobyl' recently . In that a pregnant women survived from exposure to radiation because his child absorbed it . Now if this thing happened in any fictional story everyone would say it's plot armor and that . So my point is that cases like this can happen in real life as well so this thing happening in a fictional story is not far fetched .Well, can you give examples of those people who survived exposure to radiation? And radiation for fraction of seconds (like Bugorski) doesn't count since even that almost killed him if it was directed in the wrong direction. And even the part of his brain that got destroyed didn't recover since it was completely destroyed. idk how much radiation does Colossal titan can do, but I'd say it's about 10,000 rads at maximum (1,000 rads is enough to kill everyone btw) and even if Armin withstand that, he also survive a 50 meter fall in which a normal person can't survive a 50 meter fall. Even if you said that Vesna survive a 10,160 meter fall, there are people who dies from initially 0 meter fall (556,000 people died in 2013 from slip-and-fall accidents). So however you put it, Armin's scene is just plain plot armor. The thing is, if Armin only survives the radiation exposure, then no one would call out bs on that since there are instances where people survive. BUT, Armin also survives the 50-meter fall. And judging from his direction of fall, he should have fell head first... and that should be fatal alone by itself, but along with the radiation thing, it just isn't explainable since there aren't similar thing that happened to Armin, only seperate events in which lead to almost dying (radiation fucking evaporates brain, 10000 meter fall results to months of coma). So no, it's not categorized as "not far fetched" but should be called fucking impossible. Heck, I'd believe someone pulling a 10 pull and all of those are SSR than hearing someone survive a 10, 000 rads of radiation and also survive a 50 meter fall after that. |
ren0080Feb 8, 2021 9:09 PM
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SHUBHAM019 said: You are right. I forgot that they went back in time during the whole Utgard castle situation.Taltibalti said: Let me explain you S2 started the wall Titan reveal if I remember . It was evening time lets say . Now we are moved 12 hrs back in time when this events of beast titan arriving etc. The night of utgard castle was the same day in which Eren fought female Titan. This was also the reason why Reiner and Bertholt didn't knew about Annie. Now scouts arrive to rescue them from utgard castle next morning . It's the same day when Reiner and Bertholt are revealed and it's the same day when they reach forest of giant trees and the same day Eren is rescued by scouts . So many events happen in such a short period of time. Heck the characters would have been ultra stressed . Eren even mentioned during Reiner and Bertholt reveal about how the events that happened yesterday weren't enough now this is happening.No way it lasted 1 day. I would say at least a week. Cause we've seen day and night cycles. First episode(Day), Utgard Castle(Night), R&B betrayal(Day? was really cloudy) |
Fiveskies said: Nalusa_Falaya said: Yeah, I understand the use of the blanket but I just don't get why it's not a big deal for them, Most soldiers shit their pants when they have to fight a titan, But when the wall turned out to have a titan IN IT they didn't question or make a fuss out of it ? Except they did question it. Hange threatened to throw him down from top of the wall if he doesn't tell the truth, was that not enough of a fuss? Umm, Tbh compared to the chaos and fear all the soldiers make in the other episodes when faced with a titan, I wouldn't say so. I understand Hanje not freaking out that much and taking it well since that's her personality AND she's the leader, But all the other soldiers just turn a blind eye on the fact that their wall has a goddamn titan in it (And a big one). |
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lelouch4britanni said: swordperson said: People don't care about him surviving the burning they are concerned with him surviving the massive fall while he's basically a charred corpse. First off Armin was burnt by steam, not raw flames so his lungs weren't dried. Secondly remember that Armin and eren had a plan to distract the Colossial titan till eren can harden and ambush him. Armin took way more time than expected, so it's plausible that eren got out and lay him on the roof before attacking berthold. Notice how neatly Armins body is laid on the roof. Eren had enough time to do that. It wasn't explained clearly but if you listen and understand what happened there it makes sense. He's a crisp husk that clearly very weak not really in surviving massive fall shape. Um no right after Armin falls and the steam clears Eren is already right behind Berthold. |
SHUBHAM019 said: ren0080 said: Yeah i agree with you but the main point is that Armin didn't actually survived . He just didn't die instantly actually . And about colassal releasing radiation , no , it does not release any sort of radiation he just releases very hot steam . And it was a 35- 40 m fall and I think Armin whole body fell flat if it was head first then yeah it should have been a instant death . The thing is, if Armin only survives the radiation exposure, then no one would call out bs on that since there are instances where people survive. BUT, Armin also survives the 50-meter fall. And judging from his direction of fall, he should have fell head first... and that should be fatal alone by itself, but along with the radiation thing, it just isn't explainable since there aren't similar thing that happened to Armin, only seperate events in which lead to almost dying (radiation fucking evaporates brain, 10000 meter fall results to months of coma). See now saying it clearly the burn was very dangerous and had burned his whole skin but not insides so he would not die instantly . And about this fall , subconsciously it is possible to survive falls if it is not head first . Hope this helps. I am not saying it's not plot armor I agree on that point . I am just saying that it happens in real life as well so it could happen in a frictional story as well. Again, if it's done on separate events, then I won't call bullshit on it. But it happened at the same time so it's just plain plot armor. |
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lelouch4britanni said: swordperson said: no... A little time passed before eren came up..go rewatch it.He's a crisp husk that clearly very weak not really in surviving massive fall shape. Um no right after Armin falls and the steam clears Eren is already right behind Berthold. Eren had time..enough time to actually catch Armin. Notice that after Armin fell..the camera turns the berthold feeling bad for Armin and then check on eren who had already hardened a long time ago. Eren was already at his back by that time Eren caught Armin and ambushed berthold. All because Armin took more time than planned.. this means eren hardened a long time ago and was waiting for Armin. Again no I literally rewatched it before posting lol. He feels bad for him while burning him and it cuts to the Reiner fight. It cuts back and he says "now for the horses" and Eren is already behind him. Even if that was the case how would he save him with the steam still active? He wouldn't be able to use his ODM gear. |
SHUBHAM019 said: ren0080 said: Again, if it's done on separate events, then I won't call bullshit on it. But it happened at the same time so it's just plain plot armor. lelouch4britanni said: maybe this answer might helpFirst off Armin was burnt by steam, not raw flames so his lungs weren't dried. Secondly remember that Armin and eren had a plan to distract the Colossial titan till eren can harden and ambush him. Armin took way more time than expected, so it's plausible that eren got out and lay him on the roof before attacking berthold. Notice how neatly Armins body is laid on the roof. Eren had enough time to do that. It wasn't explained clearly but if you listen and understand what happened there it makes sense. uh yeah since Armin totally fall so slow that Eren had enough time to lay down Armin without getting noticed by Beruto Like stop it. No matter how much you twist it, it's just plot armor. And Eren's reaction when he goes to Armin contradicts what your "explanations" said. |
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