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Jan 17, 2021 11:14 AM

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Wtf this episode is full of action scenes but mappa fucked up with the stupid Cgi.
Also I watched it in 1080 and they just make some of the scenes not very clear to watch.
MAN I will do anything for wit to just animate this episode and the one after gosh
Jan 17, 2021 11:14 AM
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I can agree on the talking scenes . They were pretty good . Mappa shouldn't have handled so much anime in a single year . #MappaPrefersJJk

Saying mappa prefers JJK is just so fucking dumb, lmao

How is it dumb? Have you seen JJK?? It has amazing sakuga each episode Lmao. We have yet to see some in AoT.
Jan 17, 2021 11:15 AM
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I know a way yall can get over the CGI. Just watch Kingdom season 1 and then you'll never complain about CGI again.
Jan 17, 2021 11:15 AM

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Mikasa's face is very weird. Change my mind
Jan 17, 2021 11:16 AM
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I liked episode 1-5 but this episode was underwhelming. The Warhammer Titan vs Attack Titan fight was disappointing.

The episode was really weak compared to the other five ones. I hope it doesn't get worse....
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This is an episode that I as a manga reader enjoyed more than the previous ones excluding ep 1. I think the emotions are conveyed exactly as in the manga and for that I gave this episode a 5/5. Sure, the fights were bad but the author's intent and what the story wanted to showcase was presented tastefully.
Jan 17, 2021 11:20 AM
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Great episode tbf.

CGI was at its best and worst this ep.

This 2D side of things looked very good.

Really worried if this is gonna be the season's best animation from what leakers are saying
Jan 17, 2021 11:21 AM

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Farga said:
Mikasa's face is very weird. Change my mind

It's the same as in the manga so I won't blame Mappa for that. But I agree that the face is not good. But it's atleast better than the PV I guess?
Jan 17, 2021 11:22 AM

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Jehad321 said:
Wtf this episode is full of action scenes but mappa fucked up with the stupid Cgi.
Also I watched it in 1080 and they just make some of the scenes not very clear to watch.
MAN I will do anything for wit to just animate this episode and the one after gosh


If Wit would've made it with the same schedule as Mappa it would've been absolute dogshit.
Jan 17, 2021 11:23 AM

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PrasantGrG said:
Great episode tbf.

CGI was at its best and worst this ep.

This 2D side of things looked very good.

Really worried if this is gonna be the season's best animation from what leakers are saying

It seems like this season doesn't have a super animator which is very disappointing to say the least.
Jan 17, 2021 11:24 AM

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Lumiax said:
Jehad321 said:
Wtf this episode is full of action scenes but mappa fucked up with the stupid Cgi.
Also I watched it in 1080 and they just make some of the scenes not very clear to watch.
MAN I will do anything for wit to just animate this episode and the one after gosh


If Wit would've made it with the same schedule as Mappa it would've been absolute dogshit.


If Wit would've made it with the same schedule as Mappa it would've been absolute masterpiece.

See, I can argue too.
Jan 17, 2021 11:25 AM

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My God
Atrocious CGI!
Literally Berserk 2016 tier

But good pacing and good directing! Very good first half.
Action was shit
Preview for the next episode looks even worse
Mappa must really hate Beast Titan. Disgusting
Jan 17, 2021 11:26 AM
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Jan 17, 2021 11:28 AM
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My God
Atrocious CGI!
Literally Berserk 2016 tier

Still good pacing and good directing. Very good first half.

FACTS. Absolutely dogshit never seen something this bad. I had my expectations at garbage level mappa managed to make it even worse than that
Jan 17, 2021 11:29 AM

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Alpha_Druid said:
Lumiax said:


If Wit would've made it with the same schedule as Mappa it would've been absolute dogshit.


If Wit would've made it with the same schedule as Mappa it would've been absolute masterpiece.

See, I can argue too.


Have you seen s3p2? Do you remember the cgi colossal titan?
Wit would've definitely used cgi for s4 too and Mappas cgi is like 2d animation compared to Wits cgi.
Jan 17, 2021 11:31 AM

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Alpha_Druid said:
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Mikasa's face is very weird. Change my mind

It's the same as in the manga so I won't blame Mappa for that. But I agree that the face is not good. But it's atleast better than the PV I guess?


yes i know it, but mikasa's face on the poster is better than in this eps
Jan 17, 2021 11:33 AM
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PrasantGrG said:
Great episode tbf.

CGI was at its best and worst this ep.

This 2D side of things looked very good.

Really worried if this is gonna be the season's best animation from what leakers are saying


source on leakers saying that?

Jan 17, 2021 11:35 AM
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Alpha_Druid said:
Lumiax said:


If Wit would've made it with the same schedule as Mappa it would've been absolute dogshit.


If Wit would've made it with the same schedule as Mappa it would've been absolute masterpiece.

See, I can argue too.



this is an empty argument since (afaik) we dont even know the internal production schedule that either studio had. but if you can find this info publicly from a reliable source id be happy to be proven wrong
Jan 17, 2021 11:35 AM
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The biggest lie in history I heard. Was that the episodes would be better than the trailer
Jan 17, 2021 11:36 AM

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I actually liked how this episode looked and I prefer these fast paced action scenes with CGI than the boring 2D titan fights from Season 3 Part 2.

I still agree this show could have looked stellar if it wasn't for the horrible schedule. Still mad props to Mappa for making this season work
Jan 17, 2021 11:37 AM
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de_walk said:


source on leakers saying that?



Eslam hyped it up since late November or so iirc
Jan 17, 2021 11:39 AM
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Lumiax said:
Jehad321 said:
Wtf this episode is full of action scenes but mappa fucked up with the stupid Cgi.
Also I watched it in 1080 and they just make some of the scenes not very clear to watch.
MAN I will do anything for wit to just animate this episode and the one after gosh


If Wit would've made it with the same schedule as Mappa it would've been absolute dogshit.
nah atleast tey won't use cg also the schedule isn't really bad as you people make it is actually might be better than s1 the problem is different
Jan 17, 2021 11:41 AM

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Lumiax said:
Alpha_Druid said:


If Wit would've made it with the same schedule as Mappa it would've been absolute masterpiece.

See, I can argue too.


Have you seen s3p2? Do you remember the cgi colossal titan?
Wit would've definitely used cgi for s4 too and Mappas cgi is like 2d animation compared to Wits cgi.

I don't think so. What makes you believe that Wit would've used CGI for all the titans? I could understand with Mappa because the director also directed another CGI show i.e Dorohedoro. The CGI in this episode isn't even better than S3P2 CGI. Only the ep1 CGI is better. Isn't this charged guilty until proven innocent kinda thing from you?
Jan 17, 2021 11:42 AM

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Lumiax said:
Jehad321 said:
Wtf this episode is full of action scenes but mappa fucked up with the stupid Cgi.
Also I watched it in 1080 and they just make some of the scenes not very clear to watch.
MAN I will do anything for wit to just animate this episode and the one after gosh


If Wit would've made it with the same schedule as Mappa it would've been absolute dogshit.


You saw what was done in s3p2.
Mappa should have said no. Mappa funked up
Jan 17, 2021 11:45 AM

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Jehad321 said:
Wtf this episode is full of action scenes but mappa fucked up with the stupid Cgi.
Also I watched it in 1080 and they just make some of the scenes not very clear to watch.
MAN I will do anything for wit to just animate this episode and the one after gosh


Wit is no more, GET OVER IT


Jan 17, 2021 11:47 AM
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WOW this episode was absolutly insane ! really we saw everyone again! that was so cooooool
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Criticizing the season is fine. CGI is bad, fine. OST is bad, fine. What's not fine is going beyond that and trying to paint it as trash or something that it definitely isn't. Spending the amount of time here only to go around every thread trashing Mappa does nothing but make you appear childish. Saying you've dropped it yet still discussing it here, why? You'll be back next week and you know it.

Being disappointed is understandable, but don't act as if your partner has cheated on you here.

The fact remains, even with all the flaws (which I agree are valid), this season will still be GOATED. There is no debating this. All the flaws one might come up with will NOT touch the status SNK has acquired. Only fucking up the story will. Which it won't. And before someone comes in saying there are other aspects to the anime but the story, I know, but story is the most important one. Take GOT S8 for example, the best looking season with the best acting, reduced to trash because of writing.

So yes, criticisms are valid. People trying to make this a failure by going around acting as if someone killed their family member isn't and never will be. Right to an opinion does not include not being judged for it. The way you express your opinion is very important.

''I dislike the CGI in this episode because reasons.'' - valid criticism

''CGI is bad omg no Mappa why?! Why are people accepting mediocre adaptations?! I'm dropping this.'' - invalid everything
Jan 17, 2021 11:48 AM

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Alpha_Druid said:
Lumiax said:


Have you seen s3p2? Do you remember the cgi colossal titan?
Wit would've definitely used cgi for s4 too and Mappas cgi is like 2d animation compared to Wits cgi.

I don't think so. What makes you believe that Wit would've used CGI for all the titans? I could understand with Mappa because the director also directed another CGI show i.e Dorohedoro. The CGI in this episode isn't even better than S3P2 CGI. Only the ep1 CGI is better. Isn't this charged guilty until proven innocent kinda thing from you?


WIT used CG on normal Titans, horses and even people sometimes. Even in Season 2 they used CG also on normal Titans on the last episode


Jan 17, 2021 11:48 AM
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i can't stand the Titan CG in this episode the ODM gear dynamic angles is great but the characters are CG which doesn't look that bad (i don't mind but definetly a downgrade) but if they use CG on the ODM and Titan wtf did mappa work on? i don't have high hopes for this episode after watching episode 5 with just a 2 sec frame they decide to use CG instead of hand drawn it. just why? the Titan CG movement are shit, Titan looks horrible in some frame and the OST like always is a hit or miss (except for e1 ost that is fucking amazing)
and they blurred out the survey corps when they showed up what was that abomination? it doesn't feel hype at all when they survey showed up since they basically blurred them out of the existence


Overall this episode was pretty disappointing imo
Jan 17, 2021 11:49 AM

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Loved the episode, kinda hated that they destroyed Eren's emotions at the talk with Mikasa when in manga it was obvious he wasnt enjoying what he is doing but other than that it was a really good episode
Jan 17, 2021 11:53 AM
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As long as anime doesn't ruin the plot, this season deserves 8.3+.
I'll just wait to see it
Jan 17, 2021 11:54 AM

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Alpha_Druid said:
Isn't this charged guilty until proven innocent kinda thing from you?


It is indeed, yes.
It isn't even anything against you or Wit.
I'm just tired of the Wit fanboys who think this would've been 10 times better if Wit would've made it.
Maybe it would've been better but it could've also been even worse and when I look back at s3p2 it would've definitely been worse cuz they just don't have the time and recoursses anymore to work on it, they even lost money by working on AOT. That's why they gave it to another studio.
So you would've to force them to work on AOT and then it would definitely look like garbage.
Jan 17, 2021 11:55 AM
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Its really sad that jjk get a better treatment than aot...i dont even want talk bad about mappa because these guys workin their asses off... still this ep was 50-50 for me i dont know how wit would handle this but i think they could handle it better overall mappa got a really different approach on aot of course its a different studio...
Jan 17, 2021 11:56 AM

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Jehad321 said:
Wtf this episode is full of action scenes but mappa fucked up with the stupid Cgi.
Also I watched it in 1080 and they just make some of the scenes not very clear to watch.
MAN I will do anything for wit to just animate this episode and the one after gosh


Wit is no more, GET OVER IT


I can't man. I got to a point that I wished that mappa worked on AOT from the beginning. That way we will never think of wit
Jan 17, 2021 11:57 AM

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always a pleasure to see Mikasa and Liva in battle ^^
Jan 17, 2021 11:59 AM

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The only major complaints I have is when the Attack Titan threw himself onto the crowd, that looked kinda wonky. And also the fact that the Scouts were CG. Other than that are only minor complaints and my perfectionism acting


Jan 17, 2021 12:14 PM

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I mean, yeah the cgi is not that good but are we going to repeat the same thing every single week?

Great episode regardless just for the content, and there is a new great sound track.
Jan 17, 2021 12:16 PM

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awesome episode, aside the animation difference im enjoying it a lot
Jan 17, 2021 12:18 PM

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Me:Checking the comments

CGI , MUSIC BAD
MAPPA AND KODANSHA RUINED ANIMATION


Me:Why do i bother, let me go back to Twitter
Twitter:Literal snake pit

me:Ok i cry
May our sweet and Merciful Madoka be with you
Jan 17, 2021 12:20 PM
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Coming from ep 6 and i can say this is barely even an animation. Seriously its mostly a picture of someone with a moving mouth and the rest is cgi even the 3d gear movement. In the trailer characters looked way better with distinct details like moving hair an good framerates. This trash is done with as little effort as possible. I actually think that the trailer was harder to make than a whole episode of this season. Don't get me wrong I don't expect akira quality here but this is not even an animation. They could have at least had the decency to include the trailer scenes in the episodes. I honestly can't be more disappointed. And trust me this hate comes from love. There were a couple of scenes that were incredibly good and actually improved on what we had in the manga. They showed what this season could have been. Like a beautiful diamond thrown in the trash. Such a waste. Maybe I'm exaggerating ( i know too little about the animating process) but this is in no way good. The scene where the devil like eren looks at the crowd was soo powerful. Most Gaby scenes were great too. Not because of the animation but because of the meaning behind it. This is not just some overhyped shonen manga after all, but this is not enough to redeem this mess. It actually makes it harder to redeem because they ruined something that could have been great .
One last thing fuck cgi
Jan 17, 2021 12:22 PM
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For the longest time I've been one of the very few manga readers in this pathetically toxic community to stand up for MAPPA. But this recent episode really did shake even my trust in them....

Every problem, every shortcoming season 4 has so far, boils down to the extremely rushed production. The adaptation itself? MAPPA is doing an outstanding job, they manage to keep almost everything from the manga even with the concerningly rushed pacing. I love how scenes, especially the dialouge heavy ones, are directed, sometimes shots being almost like colored manga pages and sometimes putting in anime only scenes. I'm even a fan of their rotoscope style animation in more chill episodes.

But there is one thing we all have to swallow down, accept, and move on. The production itself is subpar at best. A huge drop in quality compared Wit. It's not to say AoT didn't have serious production problems with Wit, but in compensation, they always went all out when it really mattered. Obviously everyone is focusing on the 3DCG.... I wanted to be the one to believe, it's just a matter of getting used to it. But no, this episode proved to me that even though MAPPA's CG is far superior to the vast majority of attempts to use it in the anime medium, it's not working in Attack on Titan at all. The CG titan scenes were 50/50 for me this time. At times I was able to convince my brain that it is simply mediocre hand drawn animation, and at times it utterly butchered scenes, such as the vast majority of the Warhammer fight, or the final scene with Porco and Levi. For the record and to be fair to the studio, the CG odm gear scenes were a pleasant disappointment for me, they turned out much better, than I'd have expected it to, if I knew they were going to be CG.
And the other two problems.... character models/individual shots and music. There is one word to sum it all up. Mediocre. It's not as bad as the toxic kids make it seem, and not close as good as the MAPPA fanboys say. The anime is definitely missing Hiroyuki Sawano's special touch. At this point he's just being credited as co-composer to be able to use the old tracks at times, but he isn't the one composing anymore.

This leaves me with one huge question. Wit dropped AoT, their largest title, for a reason. Why did MAPPA pick it up, if their schedule was just as packed as Wit's, and the project wouldn't even be anywhere close to top priority? They're getting the job done, and delivering an (considering everything) "ok" adaptation, but this last chunk of AoT, which is the absolute pinnacle of the already awesome series, deserves more than just an "ok" treatment. At this point, Isayama as one person is carrying the title, and fking hell, he's really good at carrying it.
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@I_Am_Freeballing, your post presented the voice of reason, but I doubt it will convince blind haters from doing what they have kept doing in the last weeks (every next week after they "dropped this anime for good", if I may add).
Jan 17, 2021 12:24 PM
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Levi's entrance did it for me. This was great, I loved the CGI. Probably many will disagree, but I also enjoyed the music, especially when eren started to destroy his surroundings.
Overall, very well adapted and truly mind-blowing. U can not change my mind
Jan 17, 2021 12:26 PM
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fu.. the production and Mappa
thats what i was afraid of, titan CGI fight
some people kept saying "we should wait its just one episode", know its not just the titans, its the Survey Corps in CGI thats what we got when we waited
Really CGI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
whats wrong with Mappa, know i hate every adaption coming from Mappa
why do we have to see Mkasa in CGI and on the next episode we will see Levi in CGI too

Mappa ruined it, whatever i say nothing will change i know, but they did the worst, some shots i felt like am watching Ex-arm

and dont tell me "dont watch it" i will watch it, its my favorite anime of all the time so i wont stop because shirty mappa ruin it

and for anyone that will replay on my and start shirting, i will say it now go F yourself as.hole, i dont need you to tell me whats right and wrong (if you want to say shirty things)
Jan 17, 2021 12:29 PM
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the episode was good overall we got to see some old faces finally. The animation in the fight between the attack titan and war hammer was not the best because of the CGI that took me out of my enjoyment especially when it was used in the characters . But well that's what we got this episode. Hope the rest of the episodes will have something better.
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Yazan_Aot said:
fu.. the production and Mappa
thats what i was afraid of, titan CGI fight
some people kept saying "we should wait its just one episode", know its not just the titans, its the Survey Corps in CGI thats what we got when we waited
Really CGI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
whats wrong with Mappa, know i hate every adaption coming from Mappa
why do we have to see Mkasa in CGI and on the next episode we will see Levi in CGI too

Mappa ruined it, whatever i say nothing will change i know, but they did the worst, some shots i felt like am watching Ex-arm

and dont tell me "dont watch it" i will watch it, its my favorite anime of all the time so i wont stop because shirty mappa ruin it

and for anyone that will replay on my and start shirting, i will say it now go F yourself as.hole, i dont need you to tell me whats right and wrong (if you want to say shirty things)
Come on the CGI is not even close to Ex-arm LMAO
Jan 17, 2021 12:34 PM

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Episode is 73% of 5/5 at this moment.

Let's see where it lands after the anime only vote in a few hours.
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This episode was mediocre for the eren vs WHT, the cgi was janky to endure, and a bit disappointing for it to be in a anime like AOT, WIT would’ve made the same problem if they adapted this season since their colossal titan was bad, but i still didn’t like the cgi eren and WHT had. story wise is was pretty good. 7/10 episode
Jan 17, 2021 12:44 PM

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Even if they used mediocre cg for humans and titans, I can't help but love this episode. 5/5
Jan 17, 2021 12:45 PM
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So I just watched ep 6 and i have some thoughts i want to express , before i watched the ep i read the MAL reviews (I'm a manga reader) to see the overall opinions , some were a bit just in their judgement some were a bit harsh.

First of all the CG that was used on some scenes it was good and in some it was a bit off , take for example the survey corps their movement sometimes seem a bit slow and robotics but for only one second it isn't at all that bad. As for titans they were ok , i liked the war hammer titan design and the fight scenes in general.
Sure the CG wasn't perfect but it wasn't bad too , it didn't kill the hype at all and you'll still enjoy the ep.
I don't know why mappa choosed to use CG on humans but I'm sure it had its own reasons.

I saw some who were complaining about the ost being repetitive but that doesn't seem the case , at least not for me , the music was on point with dialogue , the action scenes and it was diverse. I can't come to decide if Wit ost was better cause i enjoy the two and i don't see anything negative about it.

Also some said that eren's titan scream seemed a bit off and unusual in this ep , honestly that was one of the weirdest reviews i saw cause the scream seemed fine just like the previous ep 5. I should add that gabi scream and the crowd running was one of my best moments and overall the episode was great , some CG moments were off but just like i said it didn't kill the hype for me.

Lastly i want to say that if some people didn't enjoy the CG that was used , that's totally fine but at very least don't trash the ep like it was ruined to the ground , the story , animaton was great just because of a minor sit back doesn't mean the whole show is ruined just wanted to point that out. But also those who claims that this ep was a perfection in it's entirety should take a seat back and look at the big picture too.

PS : if you're one of those who goes to attack the producer on its twitter go and F yourself and i don't need to explain to you why this is wrong and inappropriate.
Wit had all the time in the world to make attack on titan so stop comparing the two studios , MAPPA did a very good job in a short amount of time.

Compare this CG with the CG of season 3 , mappa is better but it is not perfect but that doesn't mean it ruined the show.

Cheers!
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