HxH is the most OVERRATED anime!!-Change my mind

Sep 17, 2020 8:49 AM

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Hrybami said:
Isn't this obvious?

I mean, the show is ranked #3 top rated anime despite having lots of flaws like pacing issue, generic villains, battle system filled with asspulls, discontinued plot, inconsistent characters, ridiculous themes, no ending, mediocre art/animation, the anime is 80% boring, horrible storytelling and it's just annoyingly stupid overall.

I'm not a big fan of shounen myself, but HxH is definitely the worst shounen I've ever seen.

Huh, everything you said is wrong. Thats weird

Sep 17, 2020 8:54 AM

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Chimera Ant is possibly the most overrated arc in anime

Yea, it was a fine show until Chimera Ant happened. It was really painful to sit through. And it didn't stop there since Election arc managed to be even worse.

Sep 17, 2020 8:59 AM

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Maybe. Probably. Yeah, I might be with you.

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Sep 17, 2020 8:59 AM

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Still watching it, it´s actually really good, it´s entertaining and original, a solid 8 and a great show. However, it´s not the 10 rating super master shonen everyone tries to sell. Still great to watch

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Sep 17, 2020 9:00 AM

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Assmeet69 said:
Watch all 30 HxH vids Aleczandxr has and come back.

Aleczandxr is objectively the best HXH character

Sep 17, 2020 9:03 AM

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Maou_heika said:
I agree, it's just your typical action shounen.

I can't really discuss about HxH, since I haven't seen it yet and I'm not planning to watch it to be honest, but from what I read about this anime, it is just a regular battle shounen that has a lot of fans who claim it to be a masterpiece of some sort.

I don't want to sound picky or something, but because of that I don't really want to watch it, because I think I simply won't enjoy it, especially when I heard it has pacing issues, which I really don't like in animes, especially those who have quite a lot of episodes. I heard also about problems that @Hrybami mentioned earlier.

(I wonder who is gonna be the first person to point out "hurr Adnash gave anime XYZ a good score durr and he doesn't want to watch HxH hurr, lol)

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Sep 17, 2020 9:04 AM

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Stop using overrated, you act like Your opinion is objectively correct when you use that word

just say you don't like it

Sep 17, 2020 9:12 AM

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FMA Brotherhood is rated higher. Therefore, FMA Brotherhood is the most overrated. It doesn't get any more factual than that.

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Sep 17, 2020 9:16 AM

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Lucifrost said:
FMA Brotherhood is rated higher. Therefore, FMA Brotherhood is the most overrated. It doesn't get any more factual than that.

Haha, kinda true. One of unwritten rules of the Internet says: "everything that has high rating or is very popular, or both, is overrated". While it sounds not very wise (not to say stupid), many people seem to use this rule in discussions about popular shows or those with high rating. Or both, lol.

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Sep 17, 2020 9:17 AM

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Just let people enjoy what they want, saying it's overrated makes it sound like you're saying to people who like it "You're wrong for liking this as much as you do" I love my Demon Slayer, people say it's overrated, it just annoys me but I just deal with it.

My Hero Academia I like but not to the degree you do but I don't call it overrated, my first impression of you is an attention seeker I'm sorry to say.

Sep 17, 2020 9:29 AM

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Still watching it, it´s actually really good, it´s entertaining and original, a solid 8 and a great show. However, it´s not the 10 rating super master shonen everyone tries to sell. Still great to watch

Keep watching, it's bouta get good real soon 😉

Sep 17, 2020 9:33 AM

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Eladriel said:
>Has MHA in favs
>Has OP in favs
>Calls hxh overrated

I know right! It's a little bonkers XD

Sep 17, 2020 9:42 AM

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Darkraii said:
So because other anime do the same thing, Hunter x Hunter can't be criticized for doing it?

No, because other anime do the same thing worse. Wording's a trap, though. It can be criticized (obviously, I do so too), but it does ring questionable if you list something it does better than everything else in its medium as one of its major flaws.

Darkraii said:
Except HxH is not ongoing lol. There hasn't been any new content in 6 years, and it's possible there won't be a new season at all. Until there is a new season, I think criticizing it for having no ending is a valid criticism.

You're quite misinformed about there being no content in 6 years. But anyway, it wasn't dropped, therefore it still counts as on-going. HxH not having an ending so far may be something that turns you off, but it's not something you can call a flaw.

Darkraii said:
Doesn't change the fact that they're generic villains though. I personally don't see anything unique about meruem or the phantom troupe, and hisoka isn't really a villain. and the way you worded that seems as if think your opinion is a fact.

And the way you worded that doesn't only "seem" but prove that you think your opinion is a fact. But to answer that first claim, yes it does. Everything is generic to some extent because everything has been done before. Yet HxH's takes are more unique. Hence I'm comparing HxH's villains to more generic ones.

Darkraii said:
Have you seen Gintama at all? Gintama 300 episodes in has some of the best fight scenes in shounen, and the animation is leagues above the animation from HxH. Shit, even Naruto has better animation than HxH. Have you seen Kakashi vs Obito? Hunter x Hunter doesn't have visuals that can even compare to that. Come on now lol.

HxH aired in a weekly format without intermission. Gintama's first "season" of roughly 200 episodes wasn't really impressive animation-wise. I have not seen Kakashi vs. Obito, but I can name several fights from HxH that probably aren't too far off. Also, anecdotal evidence isn't evidence.

Darkraii said:
Dude you literally were just saying laughing at that dude's opinion about the villains, but you didn't bring up any arguments. All you said was "the comicality of that point speaks for itself". Is that supposed to be a convincing argument? Doesn't seem so to me.

Ad hominem, by the way. But the aim was to ridicule the point he mentioned, yet I still brought up specific comparisons at the very least to make that clear.

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Sep 17, 2020 9:42 AM

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Yes its overrated.

Of the topic:
>hasn't watched gintama
>has sugibro in favs
That's extremely rare.

Sep 17, 2020 9:56 AM

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@Darkraii, this is pure bullshit.

Darkraii said:
So because other anime do the same thing, Hunter x Hunter can't be criticized for doing it?

Can you elaborate "full of asspulls"? Like, explain to me what "asspull" or "criticisms" you have for HxH before painting it overrated. Op was asking for factual arguments and I still can't find actual arguments that prove the claim that HxH is overrated is valid; other than, of coarse, blanket statements such as "it has asspulls" and "boring and generic".

So? As far I can tell, HxH anime ended on a satisfying note -- Gon completed his objective in finding his dad. You can't just claim this as a "valid criticism" because it doesn't hinder the story. If you're only an anime watcher you can consider the ending as the ending of the anime. The manga is on the longest hiatus it's ever been, and I highly doubt that it'll ever come back, let alone the anime. So you can draw the line over there.

And? Do you necessarily have a problem with "generic" characters? What do you consider generic? Is the mere fact that the said character designs look similar to other shonen characters make them generic? Again, you stated that you didn't see anything special or unique in those said characters without stating WHY you find them uninteresting. Can I assume that your arguments carry no basis and weight without being called rabid fan boy? Or not.

Have you seen HxH? The show has the best animation quality and the most consistent in all of (shonen) anime. I mean, it was animated by studio Madhouse (a studio that was claimed to be one of the greatest animation studios due it's great work). Anyone with two pair of eyes can tell you HxH has better animation than ones you stated -- or more particularly Naruto. And oh, just because of one fight has a somewhat decent animation doesn't mean it's better than entire anime. There's something called consistency. In fact, by your basis, I can say one fight in HxH is better than all of Naruto because of it's animation...

Darkraii said:
Dude you literally were just saying laughing at that dude's opinion about the villains, but you didn't bring up any arguments. All you said was "the comicality of that point speaks for itself". Is that supposed to be a convincing argument? Doesn't seem so to me.

Isn't it ironic that you claimed that he used no arguments while simultaneously doing the exact same thing?

Sep 17, 2020 9:57 AM

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Aktually HxH 2011 is the best battle shonen ever made. There I said it. Sadly it's very underrated with only 9.12 rating. It needs to be above FMAB tbh.

Sep 17, 2020 10:00 AM

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TheQuietLife said:
I don't care if you think it's overrated, but it certainly isn't the MOST overrated.

then which is, in your opinion. i really wanna know

Sep 17, 2020 10:10 AM

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I am certain that had the author the decisiveness to finish it at 50-60 volumes, it would have easily surpassed fma:b in rankings and would be second only to One Piece

Sep 17, 2020 10:14 AM

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No I don't think I will. Even if I give you valid reasons, you'll never change your mind. You'll be water looking for holes in my arguments and will never agree with one another. This will turn into a never-ending battle of pointless bullshit where we gain nothing but toxicity.

Can't wait for someone to call me out for posting despite not putting anything on the table.

Sep 17, 2020 10:14 AM

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Its okay. You think its overrated, that's totally fine. Congratulations, you have become part of those that think HxH is overrated.

Changing one's mind doesn't change the fact that under all of it, they still think of HxH as overrated and are merely providing fanservice (something that usually wouldn't happen and is there to please) to those fans that provide genuine arguements otherwise.

Please by all means, keep thinking of HxH as overrated.

Personally, I think that HxH is a well-written piece, shame that its on hiatus.

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Sep 17, 2020 10:16 AM

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Hrybami said:
The power system in HxH doesn't reign above other. Every power system in shounen don't make any sense and it's all about the choreography and fight style anyway. But HxH takes the cake for having the most bullshits of all since it's written so that the writer can pull out any level ups asspulls he want and justify it by limitation or sacrifice or some other bullshit. It removes all the thrill when you consider that all the character needed in order to level up was to trade something since they were already gifted since born.

The lack of rules in other shounen leads to most of those fights feeling like the author is simply doing whatever they want without even making an attempt at hiding it. Yet non-existing power systems where the one with the sadder flashback powers up for some reason preserve the thrill, I reckon. Hunter x Hunter at least goes through the hurdle of establishing a power system beforehand, and once the fight begins, usually, they stick to it. The author doesn't break those rules for the sake of spectacular scenes in most cases, making the fights more authentic than watching fights where it's blatantly obvious which fighter the author wants to win, but they still decide to make a half-assed attempt at integrating tension anyway.

Hrybami said:
I'm not comparing villain to other shounen. Meruem is utterly generic. Awfully evil villain doing evil thing until he realize it's not good to do evil thing so he stopped being evil.

Awfully superficial representation of an author's non-superficial take. The transition from monster to human is indeed quite an explored trope in fiction, yet the author's take on that trope is definitely more unique. He created the most powerful and intelligent being in the world, observing how that being would naturally develop giving the circumstances of the universe he resides in. Meruem never actually stops being evil, he simply realizes that there's value other than physical power. It was subtle and well-written.

Hrybami said:
The storytelling in HxH is particularly bad. Relying on a narrator to explain every plot point is not a good storytelling.

By that logic, every book is bad.

Hrybami said:
Also, no wonder why the characters are so inconsistent.

I don't agree with this either. With the possible exception of Gon, no character felt like they were abruptly changing for no reason. The character that comes closest to corresponding to that claim is Gon during the second half of the Chimera Ant arc. And even that one wasn't too bad. It simply wasn't as subtle as it should have been for the sake of making things more dramatic.

Mind you, I do respect you're actually making specific arguments though, and I can understand where you're coming from. I just don't agree with you.

Sep 17, 2020 10:23 AM

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@Zlyiond Yeah, you are completely mistaken. I wasn't even trying to argue anything to begin with. The dude was arguing with someone else, and all I was doing was giving my thoughts on what he said. I don't have to explain why I believe what I believe because I was never trying to make an argument. I never said Hunter x Hunter is full of ass pulls. Again, you're confused.

But as for the animation, Hunter x Hunter wasn't really THAT impressive. Of course it has more consistent animation than Naruto when it's like 600 episodes shorter. But when animation matters the most in battle shounen is during the fights, and lets be real here, Naruto fights are animated better. And that small gif you showed was not impressive in the slightest. But since I know you won't be convinced, then I'll just stop talking about this.

And yes Gon did complete his objective in finding his dad, but the way he did it was extremely unsatisfying. So much build up just to have them see each other in a fucking meeting. And Hunter x Hunter had plenty of plot lines left unfinished, so for you to say it ended on a satisfying note is just straight up capping. i'm pretty sure that does hinder the story lmao. But then again, since you won't be convinced I won't bother talking about this one either.

I never said there's anything wrong with the villains being generic. When did I ever say such a thing? Why the hell would I explain why I have that opinion? Why the hell do you think I was ever trying to make an argument? Why must you think that I have to explain my opinions? I'm not in the mood to explain anything, because I was never making an argument. I was literally just stating an opinion buddy. It's not that serious.

Sep 17, 2020 10:26 AM

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mono_mer said:
You definitely need a change of mind. The current one isn't working well.
And stuff I don't like =/= Overrated.

But stuff I dont like that have many flaws and arguments based on an educational backround =OVERRATED Why didn't you try to change my mind? It isn't going to change by itself! Perhaps you dont have arguments xD (yes i am provoking to prove me wrong :)

There is a youtube channel named Aleczandxr. He does analysis of tv shows and anime. Btw He also analyses anime he doesn't like. So you can't say he's just biased without checking his content.
Half of his videos are about HxH.

The reason I am not trying to give you points myself, is because I think it would be a waste of time. Even if I describe the heavy narrative themes of the show, you'll just not be convinced, because you are not here to convince yourself that HxH is great. You are here to convince others that HxH is overrated, which you'll clearly not achieve.
All of HxH has been explained to death by many people.

I am just guiding you to a source. Choice is yours. If you have a solid opinion, well... a few videos won't do any bad, right?

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Sep 17, 2020 10:31 AM

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This entire thread if so much fucking cancer lol.

Sep 17, 2020 10:37 AM

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its ur opinion and if u think its overrated its all good x) but I'm glad you put killua as one of ur fav characters despite it all. he deserves all the love!

Sep 17, 2020 10:40 AM

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Is Kimetsu no Yaiba or Promised Neverland a joke to you?

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Sep 17, 2020 10:45 AM

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mono_mer said:

And stuff I don't like =/= Overrated.

But it does. Something can't be objectively overrated. If something objectively didn't deserve the praise it received, then it wouldn't get that praise. If somebody believes that something doesn't deserve the praise that it is getting, then it is overrated to them.

Sep 17, 2020 10:48 AM

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Most pointless conversation. You know its just gonna be people arguing

Sep 17, 2020 10:48 AM

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Give me your address, please. I swear in the name of Alucard that I'll change your mind

Sep 17, 2020 10:52 AM

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What makes a show overrated? The the term overrated is such a buzzword in the anime community to the point where it has board line lost all meaning. The term overrated is now just used if someone dislikes an anime regardless of how popular it is or if someone is to lazy to think of any legit criticism to the anime or if someone simply doesn't like the show cause it's popular. Also what does a show being overrated do to the actual quality of the anime? The answer is absolutely nothing. People liking a show does nothing to the show itself. A show can be overrated and still be good people love to forget that and think that overrated = bad. So I kindly ask you OP tell me why HxH is overrated with this factual evidence you have.

Sep 17, 2020 11:01 AM

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