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Who should end up with MC?
Jan 20, 2020 6:02 AM
#51
-Stray said: Tenzen12 said: There is nothing controversial about Mafuyu ending though? She is pretty much only non-Uruka heroine with relationship good enough to work and Teacher x Student romances are pretty common in manga. Depends on how it ends, couldn't be controversial if Mafuyu and Yuiga waits for the right time, but also could be controversial if Mafuyu and Yuiga does it "ahead" of time ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) *very unlikely tho but we can never tell* And yeah, I've read some Teacher X Student type of thing, but not in a harem setting, its mostly the teacher and student already going out and other girls starts gunning for the MC kind of thing, never in a setup like this. If there has been can you recommend it to me, I'd love me some more Teacher X Student story to read. https://myanimelist.net/manga/117080/Sensei_wa_Koi_wo_Oshierarenai the only one I can remember didn't really like it tho there was another one called kiss x sis too |
Jan 20, 2020 7:08 AM
#52
Congintive said: https://myanimelist.net/manga/117080/Sensei_wa_Koi_wo_Oshierarenai the only one I can remember didn't really like it tho there was another one called kiss x sis too I've read kiss x sis, iirc the mc is going out with glasses girl |
Jan 20, 2020 7:11 AM
#53
I like sensei the most. But I'd rather want a happy ending. One which would make everything end smoothly unlike 99.9% of every other harem anime. This could either be : Denial Of All Thots or Denial Of All Thots |
Jan 20, 2020 7:27 AM
#54
-Stray said: Congintive said: https://myanimelist.net/manga/117080/Sensei_wa_Koi_wo_Oshierarenai the only one I can remember didn't really like it tho there was another one called kiss x sis too I've read kiss x sis, iirc the mc is going out with glasses girl I mean he was going out with sensei just only few ch ago. |
Jan 24, 2020 7:40 PM
#55
I think Fumino would be the best fit because in contrast to the other girls their relationship is intertwined and they influence each other equally. With that I mean that he goes the extra mile for her and she goes the extra mile for him. Their relationship goes further than those of the other girls. And they had the closest moments. Also the alignment of their characters is much closer in comparison to the other girls. For example before they slept together they missed the train for the same reason. And also the reason for holding her hand was the similarity in character. Plus they do stuff together naturally. For example their date under the stars didn't happen because they wanted to have a date, it happened because of the situation. It had an actual purpose. Also they already were in the situation of "newlyweds". Sure, he was in a similar situation with Mafuyu (in that case even with a child), but that was thanks to a coincidence. |
Jan 24, 2020 11:30 PM
#56
panda42 said: I think Fumino would be the best fit because in contrast to the other girls their relationship is intertwined and they influence each other equally. With that I mean that he goes the extra mile for her and she goes the extra mile for him. Their relationship goes further than those of the other girls. And they had the closest moments. Also the alignment of their characters is much closer in comparison to the other girls. For example before they slept together they missed the train for the same reason. And also the reason for holding her hand was the similarity in character. Plus they do stuff together naturally. For example their date under the stars didn't happen because they wanted to have a date, it happened because of the situation. It had an actual purpose. Also they already were in the situation of "newlyweds". Sure, he was in a similar situation with Mafuyu (in that case even with a child), but that was thanks to a coincidence. Haha! Thanks for the laughter. That was a good one! |
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Jan 25, 2020 8:34 PM
#57
shanimebib said: Haha! Thanks for the laughter. That was a good one! You obviously want Uruka to win, but at which point did they really share a connection and drove themselves forward in ways unique to the character? When it comes to Fumino there are several moments, especially looking at the stars stands out, but which moment with Uruka comes to your mind? She can cook and swim. Those are her outstanding skills. All moments with Nariyuki which could advance the relationship happen in her mind, but she never puts them into practice and/or they are delusions. What's the reason why they should get together? I see no problem with her winning, but at this moment in the story a love relationship wouldn't be healthy. However hat doesn't mean that it can't become healthy. I wouldn't see it as a bad ending if she'd win, love isn't rational after all, but at the current point of the story Fumino would be a better fit. |
Jan 25, 2020 8:52 PM
#58
Coolness0228 said: [...]even though Rizu loved Nariyuki longer[...] Do you really think so? Look at the last page of chapter 5. It's subtle, but I think that's the starting point. It gradually grows stronger and in chapter 136 she finally realizes it. |
Jan 25, 2020 9:10 PM
#59
panda42 said: shanimebib said: Haha! Thanks for the laughter. That was a good one! You obviously want Uruka to win, but at which point did they really share a connection and drove themselves forward in ways unique to the character? When it comes to Fumino there are several moments, especially looking at the stars stands out, but which moment with Uruka comes to your mind? She can cook and swim. Those are her outstanding skills. All moments with Nariyuki which could advance the relationship happen in her mind, but she never puts them into practice and/or they are delusions. What's the reason why they should get together? I see no problem with her winning, but at this moment in the story a love relationship wouldn't be healthy. However hat doesn't mean that it can't become healthy. I wouldn't see it as a bad ending if she'd win, love isn't rational after all, but at the current point of the story Fumino would be a better fit. Wow! Uruka basically finds the extra yards in her swimming because of Nariyuki (ever since she fell in love). If you haven't read the manga know that the anime also omitted the fact that Uruka is the one who gave Nariyuki the courage he needed to move forward after his father's death. I would have said she have had the advantage of knowing him from before but that's not the case. Nariyuki said it happened even before they were close. Seeing her give all to swimming was his inspiration. But the anime conveniently removed it. And what about the campus visit that the anime removed? Nariyuki's only non-erotic fantasy has been having a lovey-dovey campus life with Uruka. Leaning on Nariyuki's shoulder or holding hands are not Fumino's intellectual property either. Fast forward in the manga, she is the one who makes him decide to go with becoming a teacher. The anime just jumps to his mock interview with Sensei without explaining how he decided to give up the scholarship recommendation and become a teacher instead. Read the manga because you clearly haven't. And even if you did, you weren't paying attention. That's why I had to ROFL because if you don't know the manga, all the Fumino claims looks hilarious compared to what actually happens in the manga (excluded in the anime and beyond the content of the anime). Also, the one Nariyuki goes extra miles for is neither Uruka nor Fumino. It's Sensei. You are wrong with that as well. Read the manga. Fumino is leagues behind Uruka and quite off Sensei as well. |
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Jan 25, 2020 11:20 PM
#60
Well at this point it has to be Uruka or sensei. Everyone else's feelings seem so much more shallow. Don't get me wrong all the girls are good in their own way but I just feel only those two would make sense at this point. |
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Jan 25, 2020 11:29 PM
#61
panda42 said: Coolness0228 said: [...]even though Rizu loved Nariyuki longer[...] Do you really think so? Look at the last page of chapter 5. It's subtle, but I think that's the starting point. It gradually grows stronger and in chapter 136 she finally realizes it. I don't think that moment was a romantic side from Fumino, but more of a "I'm getting more comfortable with him and he is a trustworthy friend," type of moment. First of all, Fumino wasn't expecting Nariyuki to be the type of guy she can be relaxed around. Before this moment, she treated him as a good tutor and nothing more, but after the events in Chapter 5, she feels that Nariyuki can help her through any problems she has and is more than just her tutor, but a trustworthy friend. |
Jan 26, 2020 9:41 AM
#62
shanimebib said: panda42 said: shanimebib said: Haha! Thanks for the laughter. That was a good one! You obviously want Uruka to win, but at which point did they really share a connection and drove themselves forward in ways unique to the character? When it comes to Fumino there are several moments, especially looking at the stars stands out, but which moment with Uruka comes to your mind? She can cook and swim. Those are her outstanding skills. All moments with Nariyuki which could advance the relationship happen in her mind, but she never puts them into practice and/or they are delusions. What's the reason why they should get together? I see no problem with her winning, but at this moment in the story a love relationship wouldn't be healthy. However hat doesn't mean that it can't become healthy. I wouldn't see it as a bad ending if she'd win, love isn't rational after all, but at the current point of the story Fumino would be a better fit. Wow! Uruka basically finds the extra yards in her swimming because of Nariyuki (ever since she fell in love). If you haven't read the manga know that the anime also omitted the fact that Uruka is the one who gave Nariyuki the courage he needed to move forward after his father's death. I would have said she have had the advantage of knowing him from before but that's not the case. Nariyuki said it happened even before they were close. Seeing her give all to swimming was his inspiration. But the anime conveniently removed it. And what about the campus visit that the anime removed? Nariyuki's only non-erotic fantasy has been having a lovey-dovey campus life with Uruka. Leaning on Nariyuki's shoulder or holding hands are not Fumino's intellectual property either. Fast forward in the manga, she is the one who makes him decide to go with becoming a teacher. The anime just jumps to his mock interview with Sensei without explaining how he decided to give up the scholarship recommendation and become a teacher instead. Read the manga because you clearly haven't. And even if you did, you weren't paying attention. That's why I had to ROFL because if you don't know the manga, all the Fumino claims looks hilarious compared to what actually happens in the manga (excluded in the anime and beyond the content of the anime). Also, the one Nariyuki goes extra miles for is neither Uruka nor Fumino. It's Sensei. You are wrong with that as well. Read the manga. Fumino is leagues behind Uruka and quite off Sensei as well. I actually do read the Manga. I could give you chapters for all the Fumino stuff but I'd have to go through it again. With "extra mile" I meant that he learns additional stuff, just for her. For sensei he "just" helps her thanks to situational stuff and can't get over the mess she has in her apartment. He doesn't learn anything new. However she helps him as a personal teacher. If I think about Uruka her support from the sidelines comes to my mind. For example the valentines chocolate which brought him memories and she shaped some bits of his character. Ironically she wants to get closer, but Fumino, who actually wanted to support from the sideline gets closer. The situations where she gets closer to him are caused by coincidences. Some of the situations with fumino happen also by coincidence, but not all of them and the story gets driven forward. For example the "princess carrying contest" just gives the sister of Nariyuki a toy and is the spark for the dance at the festival, but their relationship doesn't change much. Or the chapter where the dog jumps onto the boat and they meet the english speaking guys again. Again it's a nice chapter, but it doesn't advance anything. Or the chapter where she wants to bring him a bento. For this it's the same. You could remove most of the content with Uruka and the story still would work. It would make the story worse and less fleshed out, but it wouldn't destroy it. If you would remove most stuff of Fumino some key plot points would be lost. And I also think that some content with Uruka should be in the anime and some content should be more fleshed out in the manga, mainly the past of them. But I'm not writing it and I think both the author and the director did a good job (except for the last bit of the last episode). I don't dislike the parts of the story with Uruka, but I think there would be more potential. Also to me her parts are the least memorable, but I think that's also because I rank her quite low on my personal list. |
Jan 26, 2020 10:13 AM
#63
panda42 said: shanimebib said: panda42 said: shanimebib said: Haha! Thanks for the laughter. That was a good one! You obviously want Uruka to win, but at which point did they really share a connection and drove themselves forward in ways unique to the character? When it comes to Fumino there are several moments, especially looking at the stars stands out, but which moment with Uruka comes to your mind? She can cook and swim. Those are her outstanding skills. All moments with Nariyuki which could advance the relationship happen in her mind, but she never puts them into practice and/or they are delusions. What's the reason why they should get together? I see no problem with her winning, but at this moment in the story a love relationship wouldn't be healthy. However hat doesn't mean that it can't become healthy. I wouldn't see it as a bad ending if she'd win, love isn't rational after all, but at the current point of the story Fumino would be a better fit. Wow! Uruka basically finds the extra yards in her swimming because of Nariyuki (ever since she fell in love). If you haven't read the manga know that the anime also omitted the fact that Uruka is the one who gave Nariyuki the courage he needed to move forward after his father's death. I would have said she have had the advantage of knowing him from before but that's not the case. Nariyuki said it happened even before they were close. Seeing her give all to swimming was his inspiration. But the anime conveniently removed it. And what about the campus visit that the anime removed? Nariyuki's only non-erotic fantasy has been having a lovey-dovey campus life with Uruka. Leaning on Nariyuki's shoulder or holding hands are not Fumino's intellectual property either. Fast forward in the manga, she is the one who makes him decide to go with becoming a teacher. The anime just jumps to his mock interview with Sensei without explaining how he decided to give up the scholarship recommendation and become a teacher instead. Read the manga because you clearly haven't. And even if you did, you weren't paying attention. That's why I had to ROFL because if you don't know the manga, all the Fumino claims looks hilarious compared to what actually happens in the manga (excluded in the anime and beyond the content of the anime). Also, the one Nariyuki goes extra miles for is neither Uruka nor Fumino. It's Sensei. You are wrong with that as well. Read the manga. Fumino is leagues behind Uruka and quite off Sensei as well. I actually do read the Manga. I could give you chapters for all the Fumino stuff but I'd have to go through it again. With "extra mile" I meant that he learns additional stuff, just for her. For sensei he "just" helps her thanks to situational stuff and can't get over the mess she has in her apartment. He doesn't learn anything new. However she helps him as a personal teacher. If I think about Uruka her support from the sidelines comes to my mind. For example the valentines chocolate which brought him memories and she shaped some bits of his character. Ironically she wants to get closer, but Fumino, who actually wanted to support from the sideline gets closer. The situations where she gets closer to him are caused by coincidences. Some of the situations with fumino happen also by coincidence, but not all of them and the story gets driven forward. For example the "princess carrying contest" just gives the sister of Nariyuki a toy and is the spark for the dance at the festival, but their relationship doesn't change much. Or the chapter where the dog jumps onto the boat and they meet the english speaking guys again. Again it's a nice chapter, but it doesn't advance anything. Or the chapter where she wants to bring him a bento. For this it's the same. You could remove most of the content with Uruka and the story still would work. It would make the story worse and less fleshed out, but it wouldn't destroy it. If you would remove most stuff of Fumino some key plot points would be lost. And I also think that some content with Uruka should be in the anime and some content should be more fleshed out in the manga, mainly the past of them. But I'm not writing it and I think both the author and the director did a good job (except for the last bit of the last episode). I don't dislike the parts of the story with Uruka, but I think there would be more potential. Also to me her parts are the least memorable, but I think that's also because I rank her quite low on my personal list. Well, it goes to show how much you are reading. If anything, remove Fumino and the story doesn't change as much from the MC's point of view. Fumino's story is Fumino's alone. Uruka's story is also Nariyuki's story. That's why Uruka chapters often end with Nariyuki's monologues. That includes the boat riding chapter which you wanted to downplay. And stop downplaying Uruka's role as just bits. She has more influence on Nariyuki and the others (including the ice cold Sensei) than any other character in the story. She shaped Nariyuki's past (helping him recover from his father's death), shaped Nariyuki's present (helping him on the day of the exams), shaping Nariyuki's future (making him decide on the teaching path). Give one example of Fumino as powerful as any of those above. She only ever receives from Nariyuki. It's one directional (her love advise pales in comparison and it didn't have as much influence as evident from the latest devlopments). Unlike Uruka or Sensei's that goes both ways. Oh, well... Cannot discuss with you when you can easily point out Nariyuki's moments with Uruka but you'll have to dig deep to find Fumino's. He staying in the hut is a coincidence. Her father issue has nothing to do with Nariyuki and it's her story where she got helped by Nariyuki. Nothing for Nariyuki from her side. Even her all love advises fell flat based on the recent development which Fumino fans have been so proud of. Everyone expected Nariyuki will be getting a hint or two from Fumino when it came to Uruka's confession. But he got it from Miharu. If you cannot read these things, then you are obviously clouding your judgment. |
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Jan 26, 2020 11:12 AM
#64
Fumino is the only right ending |
Jan 26, 2020 12:04 PM
#65
shanimebib said: panda42 said: shanimebib said: panda42 said: shanimebib said: Haha! Thanks for the laughter. That was a good one! You obviously want Uruka to win, but at which point did they really share a connection and drove themselves forward in ways unique to the character? When it comes to Fumino there are several moments, especially looking at the stars stands out, but which moment with Uruka comes to your mind? She can cook and swim. Those are her outstanding skills. All moments with Nariyuki which could advance the relationship happen in her mind, but she never puts them into practice and/or they are delusions. What's the reason why they should get together? I see no problem with her winning, but at this moment in the story a love relationship wouldn't be healthy. However hat doesn't mean that it can't become healthy. I wouldn't see it as a bad ending if she'd win, love isn't rational after all, but at the current point of the story Fumino would be a better fit. Wow! Uruka basically finds the extra yards in her swimming because of Nariyuki (ever since she fell in love). If you haven't read the manga know that the anime also omitted the fact that Uruka is the one who gave Nariyuki the courage he needed to move forward after his father's death. I would have said she have had the advantage of knowing him from before but that's not the case. Nariyuki said it happened even before they were close. Seeing her give all to swimming was his inspiration. But the anime conveniently removed it. And what about the campus visit that the anime removed? Nariyuki's only non-erotic fantasy has been having a lovey-dovey campus life with Uruka. Leaning on Nariyuki's shoulder or holding hands are not Fumino's intellectual property either. Fast forward in the manga, she is the one who makes him decide to go with becoming a teacher. The anime just jumps to his mock interview with Sensei without explaining how he decided to give up the scholarship recommendation and become a teacher instead. Read the manga because you clearly haven't. And even if you did, you weren't paying attention. That's why I had to ROFL because if you don't know the manga, all the Fumino claims looks hilarious compared to what actually happens in the manga (excluded in the anime and beyond the content of the anime). Also, the one Nariyuki goes extra miles for is neither Uruka nor Fumino. It's Sensei. You are wrong with that as well. Read the manga. Fumino is leagues behind Uruka and quite off Sensei as well. I actually do read the Manga. I could give you chapters for all the Fumino stuff but I'd have to go through it again. With "extra mile" I meant that he learns additional stuff, just for her. For sensei he "just" helps her thanks to situational stuff and can't get over the mess she has in her apartment. He doesn't learn anything new. However she helps him as a personal teacher. If I think about Uruka her support from the sidelines comes to my mind. For example the valentines chocolate which brought him memories and she shaped some bits of his character. Ironically she wants to get closer, but Fumino, who actually wanted to support from the sideline gets closer. The situations where she gets closer to him are caused by coincidences. Some of the situations with fumino happen also by coincidence, but not all of them and the story gets driven forward. For example the "princess carrying contest" just gives the sister of Nariyuki a toy and is the spark for the dance at the festival, but their relationship doesn't change much. Or the chapter where the dog jumps onto the boat and they meet the english speaking guys again. Again it's a nice chapter, but it doesn't advance anything. Or the chapter where she wants to bring him a bento. For this it's the same. You could remove most of the content with Uruka and the story still would work. It would make the story worse and less fleshed out, but it wouldn't destroy it. If you would remove most stuff of Fumino some key plot points would be lost. And I also think that some content with Uruka should be in the anime and some content should be more fleshed out in the manga, mainly the past of them. But I'm not writing it and I think both the author and the director did a good job (except for the last bit of the last episode). I don't dislike the parts of the story with Uruka, but I think there would be more potential. Also to me her parts are the least memorable, but I think that's also because I rank her quite low on my personal list. Well, it goes to show how much you are reading. If anything, remove Fumino and the story doesn't change as much from the MC's point of view. Fumino's story is Fumino's alone. Uruka's story is also Nariyuki's story. That's why Uruka chapters often end with Nariyuki's monologues. That includes the boat riding chapter which you wanted to downplay. And stop downplaying Uruka's role as just bits. She has more influence on Nariyuki and the others (including the ice cold Sensei) than any other character in the story. She shaped Nariyuki's past (helping him recover from his father's death), shaped Nariyuki's present (helping him on the day of the exams), shaping Nariyuki's future (making him decide on the teaching path). Give one example of Fumino as powerful as any of those above. She only ever receives from Nariyuki. It's one directional (her love advise pales in comparison and it didn't have as much influence as evident from the latest devlopments). Unlike Uruka or Sensei's that goes both ways. Oh, well... Cannot discuss with you when you can easily point out Nariyuki's moments with Uruka but you'll have to dig deep to find Fumino's. He staying in the hut is a coincidence. Her father issue has nothing to do with Nariyuki and it's her story where she got helped by Nariyuki. Nothing for Nariyuki from her side. Even her all love advises fell flat based on the recent development which Fumino fans have been so proud of. Everyone expected Nariyuki will be getting a hint or two from Fumino when it came to Uruka's confession. But he got it from Miharu. If you cannot read these things, then you are obviously clouding your judgment. I can point a lot of stuff with Fumino. I simply want to understand it why Uruka would be objectively the better choice at the current moment of the story. That's why I try to get into your position and actively look for stuff which favors Uruka. I like Fumino the most and I think that she would be the most fitting person right now, but the latter has nothing to do with me liking Fumino. Also I am not "proud of Fumino". She is a character of a story and imo you can only be proud of yourself or something who or which you actually affected Ok and now some stuff why I think that Fumino is the best choice at the current moment of the story: The most obvious thing is the moments when they are looking at the stars. The first moment leads to him actually understanding their motivation and trust from both sides. He doesn't want to make them change their subject anymore. The second leads to thinking about what he wants to do for himself and Fumino claiming that she wants to support Nariyuki, no matter what he does and the third leads to Nariyuki saying the same thing to her. And they actually support each other and it doesn't just stay in their mind. They shaped each other equally. The next thing which comes to my mind is that they are the closest, both physically and mentally. In addition to that she and sensei are the only ones which had real "wife experiences" which went on longer than a moment. But after reading the chapter of today it feels kinda like a new starting point. now all cards are on the table (except for senpai and sensei maybe). |
Jan 26, 2020 12:55 PM
#66
Because nothing Fumino does carry over her arcs. She got some development but doesn't bring any to Yuiga. For him both Fumino and Rizu are equally important friends. In other hand Uruka was special to Yuiga from beginning and they actually empower each other. Even if Fumino wasn't there Yuiga would be same person, without Uruka he would be completely different. |
Jan 26, 2020 3:21 PM
#67
Tenzen12 said: Because nothing Fumino does carry over her arcs. She got some development but doesn't bring any to Yuiga. For him both Fumino and Rizu are equally important friends. In other hand Uruka was special to Yuiga from beginning and they actually empower each other. Even if Fumino wasn't there Yuiga would be same person, without Uruka he would be completely different. I disagree with the first point. She causes constant development. And also some very crucial things happened with Rizu which are very important for the further development. However I agree with your second point if you look at the stuff which happened before he met Fumino and Rizu. But if you look at the timeline afterwards I don't see any major development. And with Fumino he had a lot of development and they actually do empower each other quite openly. Fumino said that she'd support Nariyuki no matter what and so did Nariyuki. I think it's great that now everyone knows about the feelings and that the "competition" will be more open from now on. (I put the stuff which happens in the latest chapter into a spoiler). |
panda42Jan 26, 2020 3:56 PM
Jan 26, 2020 7:19 PM
#68
Problem is having good mood isn't really development or empowering, especially if one of two forget about it in next two chapters and doesn't even think about it ever again. Yes noone argue Fumino and Yuiga had good mood going on. It's just there is no implication Yuiga give it any importance. No monologue (outside of single time when he think about ALL girls pursuing their dreams), not mentioned in conversation and no flashback. If manga doesn't show there is something special, there isn't. |
Tenzen12Jan 26, 2020 7:25 PM
Jan 26, 2020 11:55 PM
#69
@shanimebib Sorry that I offended you, that was not my intention. I genuinely want to discuss and I accept other views. I think no matter who "wins", it can be a good ending. In this case there is not really a bad girl which I don't want to win. The only thing which could happen is a bad ending, but that would be a bad ending no matter the choice. I still think that Fumino is the best choice though. ;) To be honest I don't even see how a relationship with Uruka could work out, even if she would be the best contender. Either they have a long distance relationship and meet from time to time, Naryuki abandons his dreams or Uruka abandons her dreams. And a relationship like that is rarely happy. At least in real life. |
Jan 27, 2020 4:38 AM
#70
Tenzen12 said: [...] It's just there is no implication Yuiga give it any importance. No monologue (outside of single time when he think about ALL girls pursuing their dreams), not mentioned in conversation and no flashback. If manga doesn't show there is something special, there isn't. Interesting point. However I think it's too early to say anything. I mean that happened two chapters ago and he doesn't even know about the feelings of the others. But either way I hope that Fumino and Naryuki keep their promise of supporting each other, no matter what! No matter wether he picks her or another girl. Also I still think that Uruka wasn't that important for the story until her confession :P Now she is. Also is "An Evanescent Mermaid Is Dampened by the Promised [X]" or "The Ephemeral Mermaid Princess Sprinkles into the Promised [X]" closer to the original? |
panda42Jan 27, 2020 4:51 AM
Jan 27, 2020 6:13 PM
#71
panda42 said: Also I still think that Uruka wasn't that important for the story until her confession :P Now she is. Also is "An Evanescent Mermaid Is Dampened by the Promised [X]" or "The Ephemeral Mermaid Princess Sprinkles into the Promised [X]" closer to the original? She became the most important after chapter 43 with the reveal that they both push each other in an emotional level and directly influence each other into shaping who they are today: A hardworking student and a swimmer aiming for the top. This gets taken one step further in chapter 91 which became a promise between them. Hence, her arc has been set up such that it's revisited with the word "promise" in it. Besides, the most important Uruka chapter is chapter 105. Read it again. It's the chapter that changed the course of Nariyuki's future. Also, official translations are of very low level. They didn't even translate the colour page which reveals that Uruka's beach flashback happens before she fell in love with him. Do you get it? She is someone who cared for him with nothing to gain. Nothing going on between them. Her wanting to make him smile was just her being a genuinely nice person, but the result was a culmination of many things. Including sneaking in chocolates under his desk in each of the past five valentines. How can the other heroines even compete? Original: 泡沫の人魚姫は約束の[X]に濡つ Closest to the Original: The Ephemeral Little Mermaid gets drenched to the skin by the Promised "X". |
shanimebibJan 27, 2020 6:18 PM
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Jan 27, 2020 11:06 PM
#72
shanimebib said: panda42 said: Also I still think that Uruka wasn't that important for the story until her confession :P Now she is. Also is "An Evanescent Mermaid Is Dampened by the Promised [X]" or "The Ephemeral Mermaid Princess Sprinkles into the Promised [X]" closer to the original? She became the most important after chapter 43 with the reveal that they both push each other in an emotional level and directly influence each other into shaping who they are today: A hardworking student and a swimmer aiming for the top. This gets taken one step further in chapter 91 which became a promise between them. Hence, her arc has been set up such that it's revisited with the word "promise" in it. Besides, the most important Uruka chapter is chapter 105. Read it again. It's the chapter that changed the course of Nariyuki's future. Also, official translations are of very low level. They didn't even translate the colour page which reveals that Uruka's beach flashback happens before she fell in love with him. Do you get it? She is someone who cared for him with nothing to gain. Nothing going on between them. Her wanting to make him smile was just her being a genuinely nice person, but the result was a culmination of many things. Including sneaking in chocolates under his desk in each of the past five valentines. How can the other heroines even compete? Original: 泡沫の人魚姫は約束の[X]に濡つ Closest to the Original: The Ephemeral Little Mermaid gets drenched to the skin by the Promised "X". Interesting points and thanks for the translation. I don't really get it though... However there are other chapters with the other characters which have a similar, if not even bigger influence. Also apparently she actually wanted to do a "greeting kiss", so that kiss doesn't really count that much. I can't deny that it has quite an effect nevertheless. I agree with you that she is a good candidate though. However there is still the problem with the unhealthy relationship. It will be hopefully interesting how they try to solve it. Just putting it on hold won't work. A swimming career is not as short lived as a figure skating career. If they try to make a compromise it also wouldn't work because the clock doesn't care why the times get worse and slight differences can already be too much. And if Nariyuki would follow her it might work, but he would abandon his wishes. I think that the relationship with Fumino would be the best, because Nariyuki and Fumino are very similar in character. They just "fit" in my opinion. Both put others over themselves, both are "teaching" and both lost a parent when they were younger. The latter few things are not really traits, but they lead to similar ones. They understand each other better than anyone else, they promise each other similar things and their "newlyweds" situation was something which would work well in an actual relationship. Also their career choices are compatible. I think that would be a very healthy relationship. But after all we're not writing the story and imo that would ruin it because we all favor different characters and different traits. So let's see how it turns out. |
Jan 28, 2020 5:40 AM
#73
"Similar or even bigger influence" huh. I heard that several time but noone really provided reasoning or quotation and most importantly even if you think so, Yuiga does not share same point of view. |
Jan 28, 2020 10:55 AM
#74
^^Your definition of Fumino comes off more as a sibling. Her "Onee-san" role is thus more befitting her. Not a fit as a lover at all. ^Tell me about it. It's just an imaginary thing created by Fumino, Rizu and Sensei fans for their own ships yet when asked, they can never come up with anything remotely of equal importance let alone more significant. It just boggles my mind the disapproval of Uruka. I can always say without holding back that my ship sailed in TWGOK because of her impact on him but it was at the expense of the girl that cared for Keima the most. I also admit that the most loving girl and my ship was sunk in Nagi no Asu kara yet I accepted the end the way it is because Hikari only ever had eyes for one girl. But I cannot accept the winner of Gotoubun because that was bad writing. I am not saying anyone winning over Uruka would be bad writing but it certainly will be several grades weaker if it's not her. Yet my heart screams and it should scream for Nariyuki that "Uruka janainara dame da yo". The reason is the narrative. Remember that Nariyuki also needs to look out for his own happiness and put himself first instead of Uruka's. The moment he chooses Uruka's happiness sacrificing his own, the moment everything up to this point loses any credibility because she is the only girl he has shown any romantic affiliation with no matter how meager it is. For others, it's his male instincts at work. |
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Jan 28, 2020 11:42 AM
#75
I actually think girls who have onee-role are usualy best suited to be lovers. It was never mutualy exclusive. Fumino taking that role was actually something that gave her pretty good positon back then. She failed make any impact and fallen behind Uruka and Mafuyu later, but If she ever had chance it's because that. |
Feb 2, 2020 11:35 AM
#76
Wouldn't be surprise if he doesn't choose no one and just a "harem ending". Nariyuki just doesn't come on as the type to choose one out of the bunch. Maybe the author can surprise me, even with the latest chapters lately. |
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