| No Skadi, no Waver. RIP me. I guess the game just doesn't want me to easy mode... >.> Also the Atalanta thing was a well-known and often-used strategy to get easy stars long before Skadi rolled around. |
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mira-pyon said: No Skadi, no Waver. RIP me. I guess the game just doesn't want me to easy mode... >.> Also the Atalanta thing was a well-known and often-used strategy to get easy stars long before Skadi rolled around. True, I meant it in the context of the 4 turn spam. Getting a guaranteed crit on all the cards for 4 turns straight is insane to me. Hmmm. I'm sure you know about these already, but I'll share them anyway as food for thought. There's the Jeanne/Mordred spam. It's almost as mindless as the double Skadi, you just need to have the Arts support Servants (Bride/Tamamo/FMA-man). If you have trouble assembling those as well. Sieg can be worked with. I guess a KaleidoNito and Arash will always be the safest pick. Just make sure to have a Zerker (Penth and Tamamo Cat get a damage boost in this event, so they're recommended) there to take care of the rest. If all fails, the mobs have really small HP bars for the most part, so a Berserker full party will also do just as well. In fact, it's arguably better because you don't really need to equip the Berserker with specialized CE, so you'll have all 6 slots free for the event's. |
astroprogsOct 6, 2018 5:06 PM
astroprogs said: *sigh* of course it's just a damn tease-Mahesvara said: Pls be alternative costumes Higher quality:  From what I understand, these were made to advertise Lawson and they won't be in the game. |
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| Double Skadi would be awesome if this event didn't have 6 enemies every round. Have to Berserker spam instead. |
| 2 weeks to grind and finish until gotterdammerung + farm re run event. *cries in london* |
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lazypigz said: 2 weeks to grind and finish until gotterdammerung + farm re run event. *cries in london* tbf if you skip 1.5 it's really not that hard :ded: its 1/4 of the usual ap cost only trouble would be like camelot cause chad gawain memes |
| It's good that Slop leveling won the CR awards with such a power gap, Gaijin Weebs don't deserve good anime. Not after what they did to frieren, kusuriya, and many others |
Golden_Scarlett said: lazypigz said: 2 weeks to grind and finish until gotterdammerung + farm re run event. *cries in london* tbf if you skip 1.5 it's really not that hard :ded: its 1/4 of the usual ap cost only trouble would be like camelot cause chad gawain memes What do you think my chances of gawain are with skadi gil and sup merlin I remember i had a tougher time in NA with something along the lines of faker sup gil and euryale |
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lazypigz said: Golden_Scarlett said: tbf if you skip 1.5 it's really not that hard :ded: its 1/4 of the usual ap cost only trouble would be like camelot cause chad gawain memes What do you think my chances of gawain are with skadi gil and sup merlin I remember i had a tougher time in NA with something along the lines of faker sup gil and euryale i mean  this was my last gawain fight on na  first lancer artoria fight 2nd one just replace okitan with umu bride yea you'll do fine with what you got on jp |
| It's good that Slop leveling won the CR awards with such a power gap, Gaijin Weebs don't deserve good anime. Not after what they did to frieren, kusuriya, and many others |
| im more surprised you screen shotted the team you ran tbh. well anyways thx. guess ill be able to sleep well tonightnow its back to the grind |
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| screenshotted cause discord m8 was like your servants are shit, you cant defeat gawain so just took it and the last moment of the fight, and told him to fck off |
| It's good that Slop leveling won the CR awards with such a power gap, Gaijin Weebs don't deserve good anime. Not after what they did to frieren, kusuriya, and many others |
ShinsoPriest said: Double Skadi would be awesome if this event didn't have 6 enemies every round. Have to Berserker spam instead. Nah. With how much stars the Quick Servant usually generates off their NP alone, you'll be able to clear the residuals in a single turn. This goes doubly so with Atalanta, as you're guaranteed all the crits you want in the turns you can't/won't NP thanks to her NP generating ~80 stars. Parvati's could gen 25~30 stars as well, more if you had her in a Quick chain the last turn, so you'll get similar results. It goes something like this: Round1: Wave 1: Buff + clear wave. Wave 2: Refill + clear wave. Round 2: Wave 1: Refill + clear wave. Wave 2: Clear wave via the crits generated from the previous turn. Round 3: Wave 1: Plugsuit Waver in + refill + clear wave. Wave 2: Clear wave via the crits generated from the previous turn. The second wave of round 2 and 3 will always have fewer enemies (1~2) because the mini-boss and the boss taking a spot that isn't affected by the event CEs. This means that no matter what cards you choose, as long as you can crit, you'll be able to clear it. |
astroprogsOct 7, 2018 1:02 AM
| That would still be a 6-turn clear. I can do the same thing with a team of Berserkers since the enemies have low HP. Penthesilea can buff the whole party and charge her own NP by 60% making the last round easy to clear. I'm also kinda doubtful you'll be able to refill NP after 3 turns with double Skadi since your buffs will expire by then, unless you're hoping for an arts crit. If something goes wrong you'll be left with servants without event bonuses and just wasting time. |
| Yup, Double-Penth Mecha Eli Buster smash team is the way to go. It only got a bit hard last year when we got to the harder farming nodes. >I'm also kinda doubtful you'll be able to refill NP after 3 turns with double Skadi since your buffs will expire by then Yeah, I considered that as well, but actually the 50% NP gauge for the 4th NP will be charged by the 3rd NP, on Round 2 Wave 1, which would be fully buffed. |
The sun is a deadly laser |
| did anyone else just randomly get 10sq on jp? |
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| It's from the Machi Asobi event |
The sun is a deadly laser |
| Fran would be za perfect skadi farming machine if she doesnt get stuned after nping... Edit: just notice it is my 1000th day on Fgo today |
kei78Oct 7, 2018 1:21 PM
| bruh |
| The only thing I have more than you is quartz. And you are gonna get your account stolen if you share that freely. |
Kaiser-chanOct 7, 2018 8:20 PM
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KaiserNazrin said: The only thing I have more than you is quartz. And you are gonna get your account stolen if you share that freely. Doubt it but I'll take your word for it. |
| >log into jp >farm blue drills >completed 1 weekly mission >went to claim >somehow can also claim 100 gold exp counting the amt of x10s there is i asssume that every singu you complete gives 1 pack of 10 gold exp? |
| It's good that Slop leveling won the CR awards with such a power gap, Gaijin Weebs don't deserve good anime. Not after what they did to frieren, kusuriya, and many others |
| There are 10 quartz reward for clearing LB2 from the weekly mission tab, there's not even notification or anything which is why I only realized it now. |
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| The Halloween rerun is finally my chance to get Ascention items for Mecha Elizabeth, but I'm still a bit lazy about that, particularly since I have to raise Gilgamesh stats :3 I also have not finished Lostbelt. 2 Tbh, I'm still not really sure about why people say that Skadi is all that great |
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| HOLY FUCKING SHIT I GOT HIM  I ACTUALLY GOT HIM  IN 2 TICKETS JUST 2 TICKETS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HE'S BEAUTIFUL OKANOBU FOR DAYYYYYSSSSSS AND I ALSO NOW HAVE SOMEONE TO FEED EXCESS EXP TO, FUCK YEAH (I changed my 2 tickets per month rule to 2 tix per banner I'm interested in bc I'm weak) |
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Nyarlathothep said: Scathach-sama makes quick teams way more effective and she's probably the best support Caster for farming.Tbh, I'm still not really sure about why people say that Skadi is all that great |
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| >she's probably the best support Caster for farming. Nah, she's definitely not. Waver still dominates that title. For Skadi to be your best option, you'd have to a) Have a Quick Servant w/ decent NP gen b) Have your own Skadi c) [Optional] have an MLB kaleid Comparatively, Waver is just buff+go regardless of your Servants |
The sun is a deadly laser |
| Waver alone can't help you three turn, however. With Skadi, you just need one quick servant with an MLB kaleid. This frees up all the other CE spots for event CEs, and that's the most important thing for farming. Waver can't do that. You'll almost always need to sacrifice one additional event CE for farming in comparison to Skadi if not more. |
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Seriously, no kidding about Fran being an insane Skadi farming machine, if not for her garbage stun. Here's a test I did some time ago: To avert her stun, I used "Vessel of the Saint". This gives her debuff immunity for 3 turns and increases her NP gen rate by 15%. I also used a CS to get her NP gauge to 100% on the first turn, which I wouldn't be needing if she didn't have that pain in the ass of a stun. Now, look closely at these numbers and be in awe. I had to compensate for her stun and empty starting NP gauge, which won't be the case if Fran didn't have the stun. In my setup: My Fran has her Galvanism at lvl5 (33%). At lvl10, Galvanism gives a whopping 45% NP gen rate boost. I used "Fragment of Year 2004" to give Fran a 50% NP gen rate boost in the first turn. VotS gives Fran an additional permanent 15% as well. Fran's total NP rate boost w/ 2x Skadi: 1st turn: 198%. 2nd turn: 148%. 3rd turn: 148%. Thanks to this, Fran got from 0% to 92%, 69% and 69% from her NP alone. In an optimal setup without the stun: Fran would have Galvanism maxed out, giving her a permanent 45% NP gen rate boost. Fran would be equipped with Magical Girl of Sapphire "Someday in Summer", giving her a permanent 10% NP gen rate boost. "Fragment of Year 2004" would still be used to give Fran a 50% NP gen rate boost in the first turn. Fran's total NP rate boost with 2x Skadi: 1st turn: 205%. 2nd turn: 155%. 3rd turn: 155%. Thanks to this, Fran would get from 0% to 100%, ~75% and ~75% from her NP alone. Alternatively, if you somehow were able to max "Magical Girl of Sapphire", use the plugsuit and Nero Bride to get a 3 turn 220% NP gen rate boost. This would guarantee a complete refund to 100% with just her NP and without the need for Skadi's 50% refill. We're talking about a Berserker here. Think about that for a second. Zerkerlot would be yesterday's garbage if Fran got a Jeanne-tier interlude that removes her stun. ShinsoPriest said: That would still be a 6-turn clear. I can do the same thing with a team of Berserkers since the enemies have low HP. Penthesilea can buff the whole party and charge her own NP by 60% making the last round easy to clear. I'm also kinda doubtful you'll be able to refill NP after 3 turns with double Skadi since your buffs will expire by then, unless you're hoping for an arts crit. If something goes wrong you'll be left with servants without event bonuses and just wasting time. Well, if you're using the event CEs to increase the number of enemies, you literally can't clear a quest in less than 6 turns, so it's not like the Skadi method takes longer. The point was that it's always safe and mindless, just choose the NP and whatever after it doesn't matter. The first wave of the second round may be a bit troublesome, since you'll have 2 enemies on the field, making the jump to 50% impossible, but the Quick Servants won't be able to clear that mini-boss with their NP alone (especially Parvati), so you'll get the chance to reach that 50% either with an additional card, or in the 2nd crit wave if you were unlucky in the first one. |
astroprogsOct 8, 2018 11:03 AM
| @astroprogs You'll be wasting extra time with NP animations though. Berserkers will usually one shot with buster cards. Enemies with a little higher HP in second round will go down easily as well. Just saying. Also Zerkalot is still stronger as his NP has a 10% attack buff that stacks making third round clearing for quests that aren't gates or hands that much easier. And NP gen isn't an issue with Rin MC that has NP gen buff. |
ShinsoPriestOct 8, 2018 11:39 AM
ShinsoPriest said: @astroprogs You'll be wasting extra time with NP animations though. Berserkers will usually one shot with buster cards. Enemies with a little higher HP in second round will go down easily as well. Just saying. Hmmm. Ok, I'll try a Berserker team and see how faster the battle will go. ShinsoPriest said: Also Zerkalot is still stronger as his NP has a 10% attack buff that stacks making third round clearing for quests that aren't gates or hands that much easier. And NP gen isn't an issue with Rin MC that has NP gen buff. I'll have to do a little skill leveling and party tuning to get around her stun without losing too much in the process, but I think that there may be a way to get a complete 100% NP refund for 3 turns straight, yes just from her NP, which Zerkerlot can never do, as far as I'm aware. I'll have to get to you back on that, for the time being. |
SherouCreationEX said: Waver alone can't help you three turn, however. Um, what? That's how we've been 3-turning since he got his legendary buffs. With Skadi, you just need one quick servant with an MLB kaleid. And another Skadi. She requires 2 versions of herself AND for you to have MLB'd a rare CE AND for you to have an AoE Quick Servant w/ good NP gen. Comparatively, Waver team is just Double Kaleid + LB'd Dragon's Meridian, regardless of what Servants you have. Heck, you might not even need that if you're going w/ someone like Nito. Kaleid Arash/Nito/Waver/Meridian X Servant can clear 90% of farming content, and it's a comp that's doable for more players than Skadi comp. Sure you w/ your Skadi and your Quick Servant can sit there and call her the best support, but me w/o a Skadi will always pick a Waver Support over Skadi because he's far more useful when he's on his own. I do agree that Skadi is best farming support in the very specific circumstances I mentioned, but only in those circumstances. And a circumstantially good support cannot be best overall. This frees up all the other CE spots for event CEs, and that's the most important thing for farming. Not really. This 'most important thing' stops mattering when we stop assuming the event is CE-heavy. For example. if it's an event where bonuses are Servant-based, you'll be forced to waste at least an extra slot on your 2nd Skadi if she doesn't have the appropriate bonus for the event. Likewise, if your Quick Servant doesn't fit that bonus, you're fucked for farming. Waver teams don't do that as they don't depend on such specific situations. Waver is what allows us to 3-turn w/ bronzes and silvers, regardless of what your team looks like. Hence farming god. |
mira-pyonOct 8, 2018 12:23 PM
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| @astroprogs Go with Penth. Tamamo isn't as strong. Avoid Kiyohime, even grailed isn't good. As for Fran, that'll be nice. Though a bit overkill anyways with Skadi. Lack of crit stars might hurt too. @mira-pyon The main appeal of double Skadi is the damage on top of NP spam. The quick and crit buffs are no joke. Helps with farming harder quests with the least amount of button presses and thinking. Like the gilfest event, good luck 3-turning the last node with Waver without wasting time switching out servants, cause old phones take ages to load that shit. |
ShinsoPriestOct 8, 2018 12:23 PM
| I know. That doesn't fix the issues I mentioned. |
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| You wouldn't care if you had Skadi. |
| I dunno, I never felt that assembling a double Skadi is that hard to do, as long as you have Skadi herself. Zerkerlot, Atalanta and Marie are 3 Servants that came out on launch and all 3 work with the Skadi spam. I'm an F2P player who intentionally avoided rolling on all the rate-ups that featured them, and I still ended up with Atalanta and Marie. As for CEs, "Someday in Summer" is one of the most used CEs in that setup and that was a free CE to MLB. ShinsoPriest said: @astroprogs As for Fran, that'll be nice. Though a bit overkill anyways with Skadi. Lack of crit stars might hurt too. There's no better kill than overkill :p Fran gens a lot of stars too. Take a look at the cards in the screenshots above. |
| Exactly, lol. That IS my point. If we all had Skadi - if she was a welfare or something - she'd undoubtedly be best farming support. But we don't, so she isn't. As I said, you guys can only see her as best because you have her and you have a good AoE Quick Servant, but I don't and most people won't. On the other hand, most people will have a Waver on their list and any given AoE Servant. It's the same logic behind why @astroprogs thinks Kuro is better than Archer Artoria. |
mira-pyonOct 8, 2018 12:44 PM
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astroprogs said: ShinsoPriest said: @astroprogs As for Fran, that'll be nice. Though a bit overkill anyways with Skadi. Lack of crit stars might hurt too. There's no better kill than overkill :p Fran gens a lot of stars too. Take a look at the cards in the screenshots above. I should've said it isn't 50 stars or over. Guess I'm just saying that even if Fran gets rid of stun in a future SQ, she won't top Zerkalot with his crit oriented skill set. Honestly I'm just biased cause I don't have Fran and Zerkalot worked wonders for me. @mira-pyon I don't think that's a fair judgment. You don't see tier lists grading stuff on availability. Just on how objectively good they are for their niche. |
ShinsoPriestOct 8, 2018 12:50 PM
| And tier lists are bullshit. You're just further strengthening my point. Also Skadi is objectively best for her niche. That niche being Quick Support, or Quick farming support or w/e. The moment you are forced to place her w/ Quick Servants - the moment you need to have your own Skadi - is the moment the niche she's best at just becomes more niche. |
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| Alright I suppose. I guess I'm exempt from your reasoning though since I do own Skadi. And Summer BB. And Zerkalot/Atalanta or w/e. Anyways, I still think a team of berserkers are better than double Skadi if there are more than 3 waves of enemies. |
Nyarlathothep said: Tbh, I'm still not really sure about why people say that Skadi is all that great Looks like somebody is going to get a lit firecracker go off in their anus. |
Nyarlathothep said: Tbh, I'm still not really sure about why people say that Skadi is all that great Mission events are annoying because of 4+ mondter wave You can encounter something like 6 wave of 2/ instead of 3 classical waves Have double skadi is like having à free np to spam Generally i manage to spam 4 np from 2 différent servants out of 6 waves And skadi is waifu material |
| bruh |
| I'll add also that Skadi complimented my stall team during the Challenge Quest extremely well. Her emergency +50% NP button was only used if I needed Jeanne or Merlin's NP ready and her NP itself helped to cushion crits or flat out avoid NP damage. Sure I could have used Tamamo but the constant threat of being one shotted by crits made Skadi more valuable. Yeah that's right, I used Skadi for something other than 3 turn NP bursting. Crazy right? I'm waiting for dat body pillow yo [Edit]: OHHHH THEY EXIST. Time to replace Jeanne! :D [Edit 2]: Nevermind, MHXA daki looks soooo good. |
GenkiiOct 9, 2018 3:58 PM
Oddly satisfying. |
| >Not NP 5 normal Liz pft Also you're gonna summon satan w/ that team |
The sun is a deadly laser |
Genkii said: I'll add also that Skadi complimented my stall team during the Challenge Quest extremely well. Her emergency +50% NP button was only used if I needed Jeanne or Merlin's NP ready and her NP itself helped to cushion crits or flat out avoid NP damage. Sure I could have used Tamamo but the constant threat of being one shotted by crits made Skadi more valuable. Yeah that's right, I used Skadi for something other than 3 turn NP bursting. Crazy right? I'm waiting for dat body pillow yo [Edit]: OHHHH THEY EXIST. Time to replace Jeanne! :D [Edit 2]: Nevermind, MHXA daki looks soooo good. wasn't there a MHXX one? |
| bruh |
kei78 said: Nyarlathothep said: Tbh, I'm still not really sure about why people say that Skadi is all that great Mission events are annoying because of 4+ mondter wave You can encounter something like 6 wave of 2/ instead of 3 classical waves Have double skadi is like having à free np to spam Generally, i manage to spam 4 np from 2 différent servants out of 6 waves This is what using Skadi to farm in the current Halloween event feels like. kei78 said: And skadi is waifu material Also that. |
If by Satan you mean Archimedes, yes |
Not that I'm aware of. In other news, Halloween Shuten is growing on me. Maybe it's just the fanarts. |
| Finally cleared out the shop besides the event CEs and class monuments. Already reached 100/100 missions so I can relax for the next couple weeks, thank god. |
| dont plan on clearing shop, just gonna clear event to get grail and fight CQ and man is this mission fcking bull |
| It's good that Slop leveling won the CR awards with such a power gap, Gaijin Weebs don't deserve good anime. Not after what they did to frieren, kusuriya, and many others |
| Whoops did I just messed up? There was a reward icon that looked like it converts the Grail cup reward into a Lore and I just mindlessly clicked it... Edit: Oooh, if you already got the cup from last year's event it changes to a lore instead. I forgot that was a thing. False alarm! |
GenkiiOct 10, 2018 11:19 PM
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