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Sep 20, 2009 6:10 PM

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Fizzybubblespop said:

I'm going to kill Alphard.



Guess who's next?
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Sep 20, 2009 8:49 PM

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Maria: I followed Canaan because she shines.(flashing Canaan shooting people with bloodloss). Oki..she likes a person who is shooting people instead of trying to help them?

The only thing Maria has done in this show is screaming Canaan everytime I see her, and she was cool with Canaan shooting the two brothers after one epsiode. Yeah you shines when you run shooting people, that why its cool to kill people, even kids...nooooo.
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It was an okay. Some nice development for Canaan and Maria, as well as Alphard too and the fight was nice. I'm glad Alphard got some more depth because I found myself at times with her appearances increasing wondering more and more just what the hell she's up to if she kept obstructing Canaan but throwing away chances to kill her so it's nice to see her motives clarified. But what happened to Natsume's role? And Maria...I doubt I'll feel much of anything if she does end up dying even after that sacrifice of hers. I'm surprised Alphard shot her though.

I hope the conclusion next episode wraps up things nicely and won't come off as rushed.
Sep 20, 2009 9:13 PM

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Ah, i'm still dissatisfied about this episode. I watched it again and... it was totaly waste of tears.
Then... i hope the next episode can be the trump card and the fate(or the script) can rescue Maria of her death. (/me and my bad english)

See you on the last topic about CANAAN's episodes. ;-;
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Sep 20, 2009 9:29 PM

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All I can say is wow. This episode combined with the last episode might be enough to bring this show up another point. The animation was absolutely brilliant, and I just can't wait for the next (and final) episode.
Sep 20, 2009 10:16 PM
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tehnominator said:
OftheFlesh said:
ugh, I hate getting these yuri vibes, it disturbs me so...


o_O How did you make it this far through the series then??


I can preserver as long as they're awesome fighting scenes. Also, Yuri stuff was quite subtle in the early stages of the series (at least for me). I finally started noticing when they entered the dessert, and... I should stop now before I get shot by yuri fans
Sep 21, 2009 3:08 AM

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for me Alphard is the main heroine of this show, it feels a lot better without Liang.
she was an attempt to make this show more crazy badass.

That was a very good fight in the train wagon,ok the hairpulling is lame

I don't care about yuri or not, love is love ; )
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Sep 21, 2009 4:55 AM

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Fizzybubblespop said:
Okay, so, basically, this episode killed me emotionally.

I am going to die.

Maria is going to die.

Canaan is going to die.

I'm going to kill Alphard.

GOODBYE DX

How can you kill Alphard if you are already died before her?
And who is going to make a party after that?


"A Legend is but a tale of a beautiful lie."
Sep 21, 2009 6:49 AM

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OMG great episode!!!!!!!!!!! beats 11 and that one was amazing.
What the heck is Maria doiiiiiing?? dont die Maria! dont die Canaan, Dont die Alphard!!! LOL

great fight scene!! a lot of talking but a lot of good action.
Gosh, Canaan is amazing, I LOVE HER! lol the way she threw Alphard and when she pulled her hair lol reeeeeeeeeally good. i cant wait to see what kind of ending
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Sep 21, 2009 8:19 AM

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Great showdown. Hair pulling is blah.
Sep 21, 2009 8:49 AM
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nice episode with good fight.

athyra said:
Last ep:
-nothing happen to Yunyun please
-Don't kill off Alphard just because ti's the last episode
-We get to see Taxi Driver and Nene (sp?) one more time
-HIGH TENSION
yeah, exactly my thought.
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Sep 21, 2009 10:29 AM
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I only hope that it has a good closure.
But seeing the episode 13's previews, it feels like an obituary to me.
I am dreading to see more characters die... All the couples in the anime never has a good ending so far. *sigh*
Sep 21, 2009 11:11 AM

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wtf is this shit, if Maria actually dies I'm gonna be pissed.
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Sep 21, 2009 6:33 PM

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eeeeek!!!! EEEEEEKKKKK!!!! EEEEEEEEEKKKK!!!... and no... I ain't an animal... I'm just friggin suffering the HIGH TENSION of the episode... I knew it... from the moment I heard Minoru suggesting the train for the girls I immedately thought... bad idea... btw... why teh friggin' truck had to die there huh? Lame truck hahahahaha.. Oh well... such things happen *can't forget the most horrible trip of his life*...

Wel, well.. This chapter Yuri factor went overboard for sure!!! The Yuri hints were everywhere this time... Since the friggin beginning.... But man I'm not pissed for that... What I actually keep asking myself, even since the beginning, why Maria is so important to Canaan and the other way round...? I don't understand why.... YES... Both are freaks... One of them is a genetically modified fighting machine... The other is a freaks that was barely saved from the same thing that made the first freak... But why them... Why Canaan doesn't care as much for, ie, Yun Yun.... Or Hakko...? I don't understand that... They met... yes... but ehy? how? I still ask myself that....

Shit Maria.... Why did you do that?!!! WHY!!!? You wanna match Canaan? My... Sugoi grl!!! You won't be able... Simply because Canaan is your other half... and the halves have to fit together and make a whole with what they have... They shouldn't try to grow apart and then try to fit... No Maria... You shouldn't have done that... Dunno whacha think, but it's pretty much decided Maria is a goner now.... Poor Canaan....

WTF! happpened to Canaan... I kew having such super powers had to have draw back.... Temporary insanity aye?... Bleh poor girl... She killed the last alive passenger... Poor lady.. RIP

Oh and Alphardo!!! the perfect Antihero.... I dunno but the fight she had with Canaan this time was the decisive factor that made her my favorite charac of the show.... Lian Qi was stupid and pissed me... Mino is cool... But he doesn't appear that much... Hakko... Well was Hakko.. Santana as well was Santana... Yun yun... Was the comedic relief... MAria is the mystery and Canaan was definitely power over all... But the best are definitely Alphardo and the TAXI DRIVER!! XD... Nice cat fight... And let's face it peps... We can't see a fight between girls without some hairs being pulled hahaha

Oh and I wouldn't mind a 5 min long last presentation of the EPIC TAXI DRIVER!!! hahaha... Oh something that actually makes me laugh hard is the fact that many of us consider Maria useless, but we actually don't wanna her die XD

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Sep 21, 2009 6:35 PM

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I can almost always count on wakka and Siva to let me know that I'm not alone. I could not concentrate on the tension of this episode for so many reasons:
-Maria seemingly has no role, despite having a seemingly important past that hasn't been discussed
-We still don't know exactly what Alphard has against Cannan
-Maria let herself get shot
-Now Alphard's saying that she doesn't want to kill Cannan

Really though, what the hell is this show about?
Sep 21, 2009 7:08 PM

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noteDhero said:

Really though, what the hell is this show about?


How ignorant of you, my child. This show is obviously about the fabulous MOE CRAP that the producers took like half of the time to shove it in our throat as well as "SU-GOI, SU-GOY, TSU-GOY" and "MARIA", "CANAAN"; "MARIA!", "CANAAN!"; "MARIA!!!"
"CANAAN!!!"; "ALPHARD!", "F**K YOU, CANAAN!!!"



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Sep 21, 2009 8:52 PM

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Maria if you die:P i'd love this series!
Alphard please don't die though
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Sep 21, 2009 8:57 PM

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Let Maria die please and Alphard live.
Sep 21, 2009 9:23 PM

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noteDhero said:
-We still don't know exactly what Alphard has against Cannan
-Now Alphard's saying that she doesn't want to kill Cannan


I don't see any contradictions in Alphard's conduct. She has had plenty of opportunities to kill Canaan throughout the show and has abstained. In fact, she has gone out of her way to ensure Canaan remains alive. Further, I don't think she has anything at all 'against' Canaan... Canaan is just a tool she is using in order to keep the terrorism/anti-terrorism racket going (much the same way she is using Maria as a tool to find Canaan's true/peak abilities).
Sep 21, 2009 10:52 PM

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Here's the problem I've been having:

Alphard has always been talking about hating Cannan and destroying her. I could have sworn she has been using Maria to get to Canaan's true abilities so that she could kill her then, something to the effect of it not being worth it to dispose of her before hand. Now here we are where Canaan's abilities are at it's peak and she's still not really doing anything. As far as the terrorism/anti-terrorism thing goes, doesn't Canaan's demise mean something having to fill the void? And as long as Alphard is around, how is trouble not going to be stirred up?

It could very well be that I have missed a few points, but I still feel like something is missing. I'm not saying Alphard or the story has been contradictory, because it's all been going in the same direction from the beginning. The problem is that I have a hard time still getting the gist of everyone's motivations and goals.
Sep 22, 2009 12:38 AM

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And I will never understand what exactly Alpha is trying to do with Canaan either.


"A Legend is but a tale of a beautiful lie."
Sep 22, 2009 3:46 AM

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oh no.
will Maria die?

and awesome fight between Canaan and Alphard. :]


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Sep 22, 2009 9:01 AM

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Osaka117 said:
One ep left, it better have some serious Taxi Driver action in it or Im gonna be pissed


taxi driver saves maria?
Sep 22, 2009 2:46 PM

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Pretty good episode. I liked the fight but gah I hated the part with the hair pulling, why do girls always have to pull each others hair. Anyways, I would be a bit happy if Maria died she's very annoying. One more ep. Wants taxi driver back.

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Sep 22, 2009 4:30 PM

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Keykeyoh said:
Osaka117 said:
One ep left, it better have some serious Taxi Driver action in it or Im gonna be pissed


taxi driver saves maria?


that would be a WIN
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Sep 22, 2009 5:56 PM

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Wait.. why did Maria agree to get shot? And now she's sacrificing herself for what reason? Is she trying to be heroic? Makes no sense to me what so ever.

I hope she doesn't die; she doesn't deserve to die.
Sep 22, 2009 6:05 PM

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noteDhero said:
Here's the problem I've been having:

Alphard has always been talking about hating Cannan and destroying her. I could have sworn she has been using Maria to get to Canaan's true abilities so that she could kill her then, something to the effect of it not being worth it to dispose of her before hand. Now here we are where Canaan's abilities are at it's peak and she's still not really doing anything. As far as the terrorism/anti-terrorism thing goes, doesn't Canaan's demise mean something having to fill the void? And as long as Alphard is around, how is trouble not going to be stirred up?

It could very well be that I have missed a few points, but I still feel like something is missing. I'm not saying Alphard or the story has been contradictory, because it's all been going in the same direction from the beginning. The problem is that I have a hard time still getting the gist of everyone's motivations and goals.


Hmmm... I admit Alphard even in the penultimate episode is still a bit unclear. But Liang was full-bent on Canaan-destruction. I really don't think Alphard is at all, hence the line about her color not being blue. If she does plan to kill her, two possibilities:

1) The Practical Approach: Alphard wants to see the full potential of Canaan and thus the full potential of mass-produced Canaan-like soldiers for use in her terrorism/anti-terrorism racket, then dispose of the unnecessary Canaan.
2) The Personal Approach: Alphard wants to help Canaan reach her full potential so Alphard herself can be the one (as the 'real Canaan') to destroy her, thus legitimizing her status as Siam's hope, and perhaps even engaging in some justified revenge for being supplanted by Canaan as that hope in the first place.

Both are interrelated, which makes sense with Siam's assertion that if Alphard's motivation was her own desires (#2) and not an objective (#1), she'd be both victorious and unstoppable.

And as far as a void caused by Canaan's removal is concerned, that does fit in to her plans. Alphard has been explicit in stating that she's interested in the continuation of the anti-terrorism arms business... Canaan being basically the ultimate weapon herself.

Ehh. I'm probably off on some of this, better re-watch everything before the conclusion. I'm actually more concerned we won't get any info on Maria's past with Alphard, although I suspect that all may just be referencing the game.
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Spookt said:

Ehh. I'm probably off on some of this, better re-watch everything before the conclusion. I'm actually more concerned we won't get any info on Maria's past with Alphard, although I suspect that all may just be referencing the game.


Why do I suddenly got a hunch that this anime is ultimately a conspiracy from the game company collaborating with PlayAsia to trick us poor viewers into buying the damn game when most of us don't even know more than 1000 Japanese words ?



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Sep 22, 2009 10:44 PM

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Miccool said:
Wait.. why did Maria agree to get shot? And now she's sacrificing herself for what reason? Is she trying to be heroic? Makes no sense to me what so ever.

I hope she doesn't die; she doesn't deserve to die.


Same here don't get that;;
and AGREED
Sep 22, 2009 11:28 PM

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Good looking fight in this episode.
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Miccool said:
Wait.. why did Maria agree to get shot? And now she's sacrificing herself for what reason? Is she trying to be heroic? Makes no sense to me what so ever.

I hope she doesn't die; she doesn't deserve to die.


Same here don't get that;;
and AGREED
I guess she realizes that she can't be Canaan's light, whatever that means, and that her death will be able to make Canaan's power erupt.
Sep 24, 2009 1:20 PM

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Gee, I cannot believe I have gotten this far through this anime without realizing any of the (ulterior?) motives behind the leading characters. Is it me?

What does Alphard want and why does she keep fighting Canaan only to keep her alive?

Maybe the final episode will yield the answers...I hope. The animation was incredibly fluid throughout, the anime's got a different, unique vibe to it and I kinda like the characters but, man, it's either that I can't stay focused on what's going on and am therefore missing important plot moments or this shit is really fucking confusing.
Sep 24, 2009 7:00 PM

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Slobodan said:

What does Alphard want and why does she keep fighting Canaan only to keep her alive?


Simplest answer in 5 words: Because she's an ass



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Sep 25, 2009 2:37 AM

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BitchMaster said:
Slobodan said:

What does Alphard want and why does she keep fighting Canaan only to keep her alive?


Simplest answer in 5 words: Because she's an ass

Oh I see


XD
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Fabienne said:
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Slobodan said:

What does Alphard want and why does she keep fighting Canaan only to keep her alive?


Simplest answer in 5 words: Because she's an ass

Oh I see


XD


Why do I have the impression that was directed at me? LOL or maybe it was ?!! Oh well,...



XD



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Gee, I cannot believe I have gotten this far through this anime without realizing any of the (ulterior?) motives behind the leading characters. Is it me?

What does Alphard want and why does she keep fighting Canaan only to keep her alive?

Maybe the final episode will yield the answers...I hope. The animation was incredibly fluid throughout, the anime's got a different, unique vibe to it and I kinda like the characters but, man, it's either that I can't stay focused on what's going on and am therefore missing important plot moments or this shit is really fucking confusing.


I completely agree with you! The villain is no longer Alphard, which seems to have changed for good, while trying to kill the "desperation" of Canaan. I preferred when she had that air of "don't mess with me or I'll kill you" (ok. .. she still has, but, anyway, she is and will always be my favorite! XD )
Sep 25, 2009 7:01 PM

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Noooo Maria dont die! D:!

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Sep 25, 2009 11:11 PM

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tcas09 said:

I completely agree with you! The villain is no longer Alphard, which seems to have changed for good, while trying to kill the "desperation" of Canaan. I preferred when she had that air of "don't mess with me or I'll kill you" (ok. .. she still has, but, anyway, she is and will always be my favorite! XD )


Alphard is my favorite character too, though like I've said, I don't have any thoughtful reasons to support that, just like the way she looks, talks and acts with total lack of regard for anyone's wishes. I can't get a firm grip on anyone else's personality and frankly it has annoyed me ever since the first episode. Guess I'll have to wait for the finale to see if I just wasn't paying close attention.

By the way, were those facepalms directed at my post?
Sep 26, 2009 6:44 AM
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Quite the cliff hanger ending. Not much else really to say besides everyone is dieing... WTF!?!?!
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Sep 26, 2009 11:39 AM

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personally i dont think maria will survive. i mean a lot people died here where i didnt imagine they would die. the land of hope canaan, i really like this title.


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the land of hope canaan, i really like this title.


me too. I would really like to plow that land if you know what i mean >.<
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Kiseki said:
the land of hope canaan, i really like this title.


me too. I would really like to plow that land if you know what i mean >.<


I know what you mean and I mean what you know as well as you mean what I know, if you know what I mean >_<



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Sep 26, 2009 6:40 PM

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Really though, what the hell is this show about?


How ignorant of you, my child. This show is obviously about the fabulous MOE CRAP that the producers took like half of the time to shove it in our throat as well as "SU-GOI, SU-GOY, TSU-GOY" and "MARIA", "CANAAN"; "MARIA!", "CANAAN!"; "MARIA!!!"
"CANAAN!!!"; "ALPHARD!", "F**K YOU, CANAAN!!!"


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Sep 27, 2009 12:55 AM

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Well there goes Maria, where does this put Canaan though =/?
Sep 27, 2009 3:56 AM

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BORING as hell. And the yuri shit is creeping me out
Sep 27, 2009 3:57 AM

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semtex said:
BitchMaster said:
noteDhero said:

Really though, what the hell is this show about?


How ignorant of you, my child. This show is obviously about the fabulous MOE CRAP that the producers took like half of the time to shove it in our throat as well as "SU-GOI, SU-GOY, TSU-GOY" and "MARIA", "CANAAN"; "MARIA!", "CANAAN!"; "MARIA!!!"
"CANAAN!!!"; "ALPHARD!", "F**K YOU, CANAAN!!!"


There is someone who understands me!!!!


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Sep 29, 2009 2:31 AM

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Wow, this is so bad.

...Really, really bad.

Alphard is vaguely magnificent as a villain but she lacks even the most simplest of cogent characterization. Canaan is still boring. I don't care if Maria dies and frankly, I'd be surprised if she doesn't miraculously survive. The plot is still horrible and incredibly ill-written.

At least the action is still good. ...There's just too little of it.
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Sep 29, 2009 6:04 AM

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Pretty decent episode and a good conclusion to the story. It could have been so much more tho.

On the other hand, Canaan with a ponytail really looks good:


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I'm a bit late on this, but it's not strange, haven't had time, anyway, first of all:
Haha Mino goes philosophical xD.
Also, Yun Yun went "HOM NOM NOM", and that sounded pretty much exactly like it too xD

Anyway.. quite a mindfuck Canaan got there? I wonder why she started halucinating, or whatever happened O.o

And that was quite a pretty gunfight, although way too short.
Woo.. Cliffhanger, luckily I'm watching this a bit late, so I won't have to wait x)
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Land of Hope.. Hope...isn't that the name of the kid in FFXIII with the silver hair? Oh wait, that's irrelevant..



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