| I am rewatching Fate Zero while farming this event. I wonder if I can finish all the mission and the shop before I am done watching. |
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Shayon said: except he doesn't have half of their elegance. This post is so wrong |
| God damn, now that I'm experimenting teams with Summer BB (3x Ascended Fragments 2030) I am having way too much fun getting 40-50stars per turn. I really regret not getting NP5 of her. Definitely doing that next year... |
Romani you fucking traitor  Stahp. Don't do this to me man, I thought you were cool  |
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| plz, jason is good civ |
| It's good that Slop leveling won the CR awards with such a power gap, Gaijin Weebs don't deserve good anime. Not after what they did to frieren, kusuriya, and many others |
Golden_Scarlett said: plz, jason is good civ  |
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| He's absolutely right though. Even Medea admits that he's not all bad, despite her personal grudge against him. |
| this why we need jason servant kek, so we can see his good side :blobblush: and so i can finally get the 3 remaining peeps whom i like real life wise |
| It's good that Slop leveling won the CR awards with such a power gap, Gaijin Weebs don't deserve good anime. Not after what they did to frieren, kusuriya, and many others |
Well, we already do actually. Solomon chapter and in Fate/Strange Fake, but issue is a) nobody here really reads FSF except me b) we've had a very biased one-sided account of Jason for over 10 years now, so saying ''Jason's actually not very bad'' is a tough pill to swallow at this point It's a matter of perspectives anyway. Heracles, for an example, remembers Jason as a great guy and one of his ''only'' friends while he thought Medea was a creepy kid. Medea's account of Jason is still correct, it's just very one-sided. I mean would you trust Medusa's account of Perseus? Heck even Medea herself admits that even though she despises Jason, she still recognizes him as a ''hero'' in his own right and that he has times where he's dependable |
| i mean i read FSF, hence why i know kek, at vol 4 anyways cause das all that's translation afaik |
| It's good that Slop leveling won the CR awards with such a power gap, Gaijin Weebs don't deserve good anime. Not after what they did to frieren, kusuriya, and many others |
| Oh, well then But anyway, yeah, Jason needs to become a Servant in FGO already. He's essentially being set up for a great redemption arc. |
| Let me be clear I'd have the exact same reaction to someone saying Nero is :goodciv: too. This is because I didn't like either of them in the singularities they were in. Same goes for Black Beard, Medb, Cu Alter, Tristan, and uhh forgot who else but point is kill everyone I don't like kthxbye. |
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| Not liking Medb deserves death sentence also >Tristan Why dis? While I get that you said you're only judging off of what you've seen, this one seems like a weird choice to dislike if what you dislike him for is his psychopathic behaviour since Camelot pretty much out-right states Lion King's ''Gift'' is what made him a psycho and that's not actually how he's like at all |
W R o N G Not liking Medb deserves death sentence ^ Also I always get fucking triggered every time I see someone saying Medb is a "thot" but "Fergus best bro he can even fuck bears and he's cool and manly xDXDXDXD" I mean I'm not feminist but I hate when guys act like that and then cry about getting friendzoned bohoo. ..... Sorry that went too personal lmao. |
| Also, fuck Jason. He's a little bitch who thinks everyone should praise him but does nothing to get that praising. I will give him a 5/10 just because he's persuasive enough to get a big fleet to get whatever he wants I guess.   And those are Atalante words. |
what the heck is a tsot? I swear if that's another "LIGMA BALLS" meme I'm going to fucking explode EDIT: Nvm I know now what it means. |
VeromayeSep 6, 2018 10:32 AM
Veromaye said: Also, fuck Jason. He's a little bitch who thinks everyone should praise him but does nothing to get that praising. >does nothing to get that praising Except create the biggest fleet of heroes in existence through charisma alone that then went on to solve numerous problems around Greece and other parts of the world such as Slovenia? Yes, he's not a fighter and didn't actually do any of these deeds himself, but if he didn't exist and didn't sweet talk everyone into joining his crew, there would have been no Argonauts in the first place and he served as an inspiration and a great friend to many of his crew members, notably Heracles. The things they achieved was possible only through his leadership. There's also the fact that it's made a point that even though Jason lacks power and is a greedy asshole who wants to obtain power, he'd use said power to actually change the world for the better and help those less fortunate. Believe it or not, Jason's still considered a hero in his own right for a reason and even Medea admits it despite her personal grudge. |
AirConditioner said: I was too distracted during Camelot, had to be reminded after I was done by a friend that that was the case. He still left a bad taste tho. And honestly considering what he has in Camelot is not what he's supposed to be, I technically can't have opinion so :shrug:Not liking Medb deserves death sentence also >Tristan Why dis? While I get that you said you're only judging off of what you've seen, this one seems like a weird choice to dislike if what you dislike him for is his psychopathic behaviour since Camelot pretty much out-right states Lion King's ''Gift'' is what made him a psycho and that's not actually how he's like at all Wouldn't mind him showing up in the gacha btw. Not like I have anything to spare atm I am prioritizing tomorrow's lancer banner which I will not get anything from anyway because I blew everything I had recently. On the bright side I got to bitch slap him for 50+ turns using a meme team of Mash Leo and Waver, so there's that. |
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AirConditioner said: Believe it or not, Jason's still considered a hero in his own right for a reason and even Medea admits it despite her personal grudge. That's why I said he's a 5/10 for me at least. Because I'm not really a fan of characters who just sit get praising because of their charisma and because of that they can be as much as assholes they want to. I mean I don't really like Gilgamesh that much because of his spoiled brat personality. But I accept that he did stuffs that deserves enough praising to forget that he's just an asshole with privileges. |
| Tristan is kind of awesome when you get to see the true him. Wait for his other interactions in the story in the future (CCC and some of the interludes where he appears). The dude is almost as kind and good as Bedi. AirConditioner said: I mean would you trust Medusa's account of Perseus? Kinda? Her description of him as a "successful Shinji" doesn't seem to have anything with what he'd done to her. I fully expect him to be a cocky arrogant, yet surprisingly capable, piece of human garbage. Perseus RL myth making note of his hubris doesn't exactly help mitigate that impression. |
astroprogsSep 6, 2018 10:45 AM
Shayon said: Is his personality different if you summon him? nvm, I'll go look into that now. You can check other events, interludes or wherever the fuck he appears in, but yes. Tristan was described as a very empathetic individual who couldn't turn a blind eye to those in suffering and this caused him so much grief that he left Artoria's court because Artoria lacked a sense of empathy (call back to FSN, the guy who says ''the King lacks a human heart'' is Tristan) but he later came to regret it because he realized he was the one who did not understand Artoria. That's why in Camelot, he wanted to remain loyal to the Lion King even though he couldn't stand the unsavory deeds they were supposed to commit in her name and that's why Lion King's ''Gift of Reversal'' basically made it so that Tristan's ''heart'' was sealed away and instead of caring for others, his entire mindset was reversed to that of a psycho who would slaughter anyone to achieve his goals. For ease of reference, here's the ''Personality'' entry from his profile in FGO Materials describing what sort of individual he is: - Character Ever known as the "child of sorrow", being a downer is a normal condition for him. A narcissist slightly intoxicated with himself. However, since his circumstances are genuinely tragic, it's hard to call him out on it. (lit. "tsukkomi is hard") The type that perceives things tragically, and ends up thinking that every mistake is his fault. His thoughts are calm, his tactics precise; yet where it concerns women his reason are shaken, in a good way. (For example, if his Master is female and someone had taken her hostage, presumably even if it is a trap he would still go and walk in anyway). A member of the Knights of the Round Table. Perhaps it was due to his days of wandering (to put it more accurately, it was due to him being included from other legends to the legend of King Arthur), but his loyalty to the king is not absolute, or better put, less fanatic. However, he felt deep shame from leaving his service under the king, and it was during his following service where he set his mind to be completely faithful. He is severe and without mercy against his enemies, but there is a side of him that would grieve for the enemies and shed tears for them once the battle is over. Is it not a sinful of him, born without blessing, to kill those born with one? ...is what he kept on thinking. |
Veromaye said: Fergus a pos btw.W R o N G Not liking Medb deserves death sentence ^ Also I always get fucking triggered every time I see someone saying Medb is a "thot" but "Fergus best bro he can even fuck bears and he's cool and manly xDXDXDXD" I mean I'm not feminist but I hate when guys act like that and then cry about getting friendzoned bohoo. ..... Sorry that went too personal lmao. That comment by Robin that btfo'd both Nero and Fergus was 10/10. But anyway, I didn't like her in murica. Currently leveling up her bond so I can do that interlude once I ascend her, here's to hoping she's less boring there. |
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Botato said: That comment by Robin that btfo'd both Nero and Fergus was 10/10. But anyway, I didn't like her in murica. Currently leveling up her bond so I can do that interlude once I ascend her, here's to hoping she's less boring there. POS = Piece of shit? Sorry I'm terrible with that kind of words. Eh, Nero is boring depending of what kind of female personality you like ( or general ) . Nero is fun but at the same time is meh if you're not the kind of person that likes people who are too self centered and expect people to praise them. What I like about Nero is that she's someone who hides the fact that she genuinely wants to be loved making others believe they already love her. |
Genkii said: God damn, now that I'm experimenting teams with Summer BB (3x Ascended Fragments 2030) I am having way too much fun getting 40-50stars per turn. I really regret not getting NP5 of her. Definitely doing that next year... what's your team composition? |
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A quick note of something incredibly badass: the new FGO Arcade CE: Amazing. I kinda thought about that matchup when I saw Atalanta's moves in Apocrypha for the first time. Would LOVE to actually see that fight. |
Frostbite_ said: Especially since he'd not just be different, he'd be the opposite. And even then, I found it hard to dislike him as a character. He was an ass, sure, but he worked as an antagonist for that reason. I mean, I think judging affection for a character based on their moral compass is a bit of a ridiculous thing in the first place. It's fiction, it's crafted for you to enjoy all kinds of humanity's extremes without necessarily supporting that in real life. Evil characters are likeable because they're so morally bankrupt and cruel; though some of them can be written specifically to incite hatred from the reader which is a different case all-together. If you looked at the morality of most of the FSN Servants, you'd find out they're not actually savory people as far as their moral compass goes. Cu is a rapist who thinks women should be honored that he's laying down with them because he's a great hero and a strong warrior, Medea played along with killing and tricking a King and his daughters because her lover told her to and also killed her own children because her loved cheated on her, Medusa is a literal man-eating monster, Emiya prioritized his desire to fight Shirou over Rin's safety, bla bla. The point I'm trying to make is that you'll find out most of these characters that are well-liked also happen to have a considerably less savory side so liking shit based on a morality compass just seems silly. astroprogs said: Kinda? Her description of him as a "successful Shinji" doesn't seem to have anything with what he'd done to her. I fully expect him to be a cocky arrogant, yet surprisingly capable, piece of human garbage. Perseus RL myth making note of his hubris doesn't exactly help mitigate that impression. Well you shouldn't, because the character HAS appeared in the franchise already in Prototype Fragments and he's nothing like Shinji (though this depends on how you interpret this line. It could have been Medusa saying that Perseus didn't really have any power of his own like Shinji, but unlike Shinji he happened to be gifted a lot of powerful shit which makes him a ''successful Shinji'' and not an actual personality comparison). He's a classic hero who helps those in need and even Medusa admits that he was essentially the Gods' plaything just like her, and she just hates him because he killed her. Veromaye said: That's why I said he's a 5/10 for me at least. Because I'm not really a fan of characters who just sit get praising because of their charisma and because of that they can be as much as assholes they want to. He's just that type of character, but the point is that leadership skills are just as valuable if not more valuable than brute strength. Even in your own post of Atalanta's quote, she praises him for how charismatic he was that he managed to get together a band of 100 famous heroes who solved a dozen of problems around the region. Leaders are a necessary asset and he definitely pulls through on that regard, so he does actually deserve the praise which even Atalanta - who doesn't really like him or men in general - recognizes. |
astroprogs said: Amazing. I kinda thought about that matchup when I saw Atalanta's moves in Apocrypha for the first time. Would LOVE to actually see that fight. Very good art and the fight would probably be cool, but I can't imagine it playing out any different than something akin to Cu vs Emiya in front of the Church. Emiya's a relatively weak Servant who manages to hit harder than his limit because he's smarter than his opponents and tricks them into making mistakes that he uses his to advantage. Example, him tricking Medea with K&B's magnetism crap by randomly throwing it at her and intentionally missing her which made Medea lower her guard because she had him trapped and he had no weaponry, but she wasn't aware that K&B would have came flying back at her from behind which caused her to lose her composure in order to dodge and then she just played into his hand. I can't imagine this working out with someone as perceptive and experienced as Atalanta and it doesn't really help that she massively outmatches him in archery which would mean most of his shit would just get shot down since she can fire stronger shoots, more accurate and at a much faster rate than he can. |
AirConditionerSep 6, 2018 11:27 AM
| This is probably a stupid question but. Is it worth ascending weak servants just to get the free quartz of their interlewds? Also how do you guys level up bond? Or where is a good spot or something. |
| Jason is just playing a CHA 10, 100 persuasion, pacifist playthrough. It's not as fun, but it's admirable in its own right. |
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AirConditioner said: astroprogs said: Amazing. I kinda thought about that matchup when I saw Atalanta's moves in Apocrypha for the first time. Would LOVE to actually see that fight. Very good art and the fight would probably be cool, but I can't imagine it playing out any different than something akin to Cu vs Emiya in front of the Church. Emiya's a relatively weak Servant who manages to hit harder than his limit because he's smarter than his opponents and tricks them into making mistakes that he uses his to advantage. Example, him tricking Medea with K&B's magnetism crap by randomly throwing it at her and intentionally missing her which made Medea lower her guard because she had him trapped and he had no weaponry, but she wasn't aware that K&B would have came flying back at her from behind which caused her to lose her composure in order to dodge and then she just played into his hand. I can't imagine this working out with someone as perceptive and experienced as Atalanta and it doesn't really help that she massively outmatches him archery which would mean most of his shit would just get shot down since she can fire stronger shoots, more accurate and at a much faster rate than he can. I mean yeah, sure, EMIYA will probably ultimately lose. It's the epic as hell scenery of the fight that is what I'm after. Archer was never shown fighting someone like Atalanta; a primarily long-distance fighter who can sufficiently counter him in his most advantageous range, but things would get even more heated in close range where Projection hax may allow him to do things Atalanta may or may not be adequately equipped to handle. Veromaye said: This is probably a stupid question but. Is it worth ascending weak servants just to get the free quartz of their interlewds? Also how do you guys level up bond? Or where is a good spot or something. At some point, yes. That point is when you feel very comfortable with what you have (leveled Servants, spare mats and QP, willingness to farm what you're short in, in anticipation for your future gacha earnings, etc...). Thus, currently for you, no. Not yet. As a general rule, the quests with the most enemies (especially if they're Servants) the higher the EXP. Though, It's never worth it to farm specifically for bond. Your Servants will get there eventaully, just play normally and make sure to equip your bond CE and use a friend's Bond CE as well. SherouCreationEX said: Jason is just playing a CHA 10, 100 persuasion, pacifist playthrough. It's not as fun, but it's admirable in its own right. Considering that he wins end game and the only demerit is less children units to put strain on his inventory, I'd say his strategy pays off :p Oh wow, now gamer Shinji makes a whole lot more sense in my head. |
astroprogsSep 6, 2018 11:49 AM
astroprogs said: I mean yeah, sure, EMIYA will probably ultimately lose. It's the epic as hell scenery of the fight that is what I'm after. Yea, I was just getting my thoughts on the fight out there. I do think it'd probably be a cool match up to see even if Atalanta would end up decimating him. Archer was never shown fighting someone like Atalanta; a primarily long-distance fighter who can sufficiently counter him in his most advantageous range, but things would get even more heated in close range where Projection hax may allow him to do things Atalanta may or may not be adequately equipped to handle. Atalanta doesn't seem to have any CQC skills given she's primarily a long-ranged fighter so he'd probably rape her on the off-chance he gets her close enough, but the issue is that she's considerably faster than him so actually managing to close the distance between himself and her is probably borderline impossible. |
| @astroprogs @Shayon Thanks! I was just trying to get some quartz and see if I could do two x10 rolls for the class banner , but if you say is not worth it then I'll just stick to the ones I have unlocked and free quest quartz ^^ Oh and Shayon, tbh I thought all this time that you were a girl lol. |
kei78 said: Genkii said: God damn, now that I'm experimenting teams with Summer BB (3x Ascended Fragments 2030) I am having way too much fun getting 40-50stars per turn. I really regret not getting NP5 of her. Definitely doing that next year... what's your team composition? Party: 1[Lead]/[Fragment 2030] - 2[Middle]/[Fragment 2030] - 3[Summer BB]/[Fragment 2030] I was playing around with most Servants and liked having any crit generators as lead (though not necessary it did help gain consistent 50+ stars per turn) and having MHXX in the middle for 2 reasons. One she's 'fun' to play with as her animation and quotes are silly and flashy, her NP gain is REALLY good with Art crits and her 20 star burst skill is a great emergency skill to use if you fall short of 50 stars in a good situation. Summer BB just works well in any team composition. ANY. You can make her work AND she pulls her weight as her own NP gain is bonkers AND you can lock her cards and NP/Crit nuke. So pretty much what we already knew. With my experience I found there to be a lot of consistency. Whether it's her turn to rekt. The lead. Or the middle. My only disappointment is that even though I have her at 10/10/10 I still have difficulties one shotting a wave of 20k-25k hp targets but that can easily be fixed with grailing and more NP levels. Kaleidoscope is shit on her. Even with the bonus 2k Attack. Don't do it. |
Veromaye said: Yes piece of shit.Botato said: That comment by Robin that btfo'd both Nero and Fergus was 10/10. But anyway, I didn't like her in murica. Currently leveling up her bond so I can do that interlude once I ascend her, here's to hoping she's less boring there. POS = Piece of shit? Sorry I'm terrible with that kind of words. Eh, Nero is boring depending of what kind of female personality you like ( or general ) . Nero is fun but at the same time is meh if you're not the kind of person that likes people who are too self centered and expect people to praise them. What I like about Nero is that she's someone who hides the fact that she genuinely wants to be loved making others believe they already love her. Idk I just found myself constantly making this face While playing Septem. I heard she's supposed to be female Iskandar or whatever, but really I don't see it at all. Not like that would make her better, mind you, but anyway. |
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AirConditioner said: I mean correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't that exactly what they were going for? It sure worked and I hated him. Let me also mention that, in general, I don't like it when fiction demonizes characters. There's a difference between having someone be simply a bad guy or asshole and having someone kill puppies and eat babies just to tell you they're a bad guy.Frostbite_ said: Especially since he'd not just be different, he'd be the opposite. And even then, I found it hard to dislike him as a character. He was an ass, sure, but he worked as an antagonist for that reason. I mean, I think judging affection for a character based on their moral compass is a bit of a ridiculous thing in the first place. It's fiction, it's crafted for you to enjoy all kinds of humanity's extremes without necessarily supporting that in real life. Evil characters are likeable because they're so morally bankrupt and cruel; though some of them can be written specifically to incite hatred from the reader which is a different case all-together. If you looked at the morality of most of the FSN Servants, you'd find out they're not actually savory people as far as their moral compass goes. Cu is a rapist who thinks women should be honored that he's laying down with them because he's a great hero and a strong warrior, Medea played along with killing and tricking a King and his daughters because her lover told her to and also killed her own children because her loved cheated on her, Medusa is a literal man-eating monster, Emiya prioritized his desire to fight Shirou over Rin's safety, bla bla. The point I'm trying to make is that you'll find out most of these characters that are well-liked also happen to have a considerably less savory side so liking shit based on a morality compass just seems silly. |
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| off topic but >having someone kill puppies and eat babies just to tell you they're a bad guy. sounds like DIO tbh |
| It's good that Slop leveling won the CR awards with such a power gap, Gaijin Weebs don't deserve good anime. Not after what they did to frieren, kusuriya, and many others |
astroprogs said: Makes me want to go back to Japan for 2 more weeks. This CE art > previous CE art.A quick note of something incredibly badass: the new FGO Arcade CE: Amazing. I kinda thought about that matchup when I saw Atalanta's moves in Apocrypha for the first time. Would LOVE to actually see that fight. But then again i'm kinda glad we don't have FGOAC here. I'm not down to burn like $100 again over the course of like a week. |
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Veromaye said: This is probably a stupid question but. Is it worth ascending weak servants just to get the free quartz of their interlewds? Also how do you guys level up bond? Or where is a good spot or something. if you are an idiot like me who ascends their weak servant they'll never use over lvling shit they would use, then yea go for it :p if you wanna lvl bond, wait for about a few weeks, when the new ce comes up that gives 2%(10% when MLB) extra bond exp, and then do this lineup for bond farming 2 servants you use + supp with an mlb of that ce 3 servant whose bond you wanna max + another copy of that ce also are you the one using my herc :thinking: |
| It's good that Slop leveling won the CR awards with such a power gap, Gaijin Weebs don't deserve good anime. Not after what they did to frieren, kusuriya, and many others |
Veromaye said: This is probably a stupid question but. Is it worth ascending weak servants just to get the free quartz of their interlewds? Someone probably already gave you an adequate answer but here are my 2 cents as well. Yes. They are set valuable assets that can prove to be useful later as event bonus or through skill/np upgrades. Some are going to be a lot stronger than your 4*s and in some cases your 5*s. They can even be a nice change of pace to play with from your usual go to Servants. As the previous event has taught us, doing anything in this game can be rewarding later. (180 Saint quartz reward) |
Golden_Scarlett said: if you are an idiot like me who ascends their weak servant they'll never use over lvling shit they would use, then yea go for it :p if you wanna lvl bond, wait for about a few weeks, when the new ce comes up that gives 2%(10% when MLB) extra bond exp, and then do this lineup for bond farming 2 servants you use + supp with an mlb of that ce 3 servant whose bond you wanna max + another copy of that ce also are you the one using my herc :thinking: thank ^_^ hope I get that CE then, because I really want to lvl up bond if that gets me free SQ lol :thinking: hmm, don't think so? But that would be weird because I'm using your Raikou, yours is the one that has a CE that gives 20 crit starts at the beginning of the battle? I normally use your arto lancer and Raikou, because I lack a good lancer and a Raikou for a lack of power or hard bosses because I'm still a noobish. |
Genkii said: Someone probably already gave you an adequate answer but here are my 2 cents as well. Yes. They are set valuable assets that can prove to be useful later as event bonus or through skill/np upgrades. Some are going to be a lot stronger than your 4*s and in some cases your 5*s. They can even be a nice change of pace to play with from your usual go to Servants. As the previous event has taught us, doing anything in this game can be rewarding later. (180 Saint quartz reward) Don't worry, I'm always up to advice and most here are experienced users so that makes it better. Thank you! Ah but you mean JP right? I'm guessing you mean the one about completing interludes that gives you lots of SQ. If not, I'm unaware of it. |
| the ce cose 1000k prism per copy sooo get to saving 'then wew, my most used servant being all slot is a lie the previous event was completeing strengthening gives you about 160 sq if you completed 80 |
| It's good that Slop leveling won the CR awards with such a power gap, Gaijin Weebs don't deserve good anime. Not after what they did to frieren, kusuriya, and many others |
Botato said: While playing Septem. I heard she's supposed to be female Iskandar or whatever, but really I don't see it at all. Not like that would make her better, mind you, but anyway. I finished Septem 3 or 4 days ago, so I would say that's a lie. Maybe they are talking about how she leads the army but nothing compared to Iskandar, she has a small talk with Alejandro ( kid ) about being an Emperor blablabla, nothing great imo. I found this chapter ( specially Nero ) boring. Anyways everyone has their preferences and you don't like Nero and it's understandable lol. |
Golden_Scarlett said: the ce cose 1000k prism per copy sooo get to saving 'then wew, my most used servant being all slot is a lie the previous event was completeing strengthening gives you about 160 sq if you completed 80 what the fuck, nevermind then :'( I usually save the prism for the exp cards and tickets. ¿? what do you mean? which servant you're talking about? |
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