Why do members of the Gintama community over inflate Gintama's MAL scores?

JizzyHitler said:

But....it does though, its an episodic series mostly but there is an overarching plot connecting alot of arcs throughout the series eventually concluding in a finale thats only plot for 3 straight years of the manga's run

JokerJoestar said:
Because Gintama is awesome and anyone who disagrees has shit taste.

ZionPulse said:
Why do people do shit like this?





Well?

kisb said:
Well people love Gintama. get over it
if you dont like it then thats your problem

nbyung09 said:
I don't need to watch Gintama to tell you, the reason behind is Gintama is good. You may not like it, but it entertained a lot of people, and they like it, and therefore it is good. No other way around.

JokerJoestar said:
Because Gintama is awesome and anyone who disagrees has shit taste.

Wasshio said:
Why make a thread like this?

Anyways, people like Gintama not only for the references but because the jokes can be varied, from bathroom jokes to 4th wallbreaking, and such.

Not only that the serious arcs when done right they're done right, along with the development of the characters within both comedy and serious arcs that gives more characterization etc about them, which makes people like the series a lot.

_alpha-q_ said:
When will this horse be finally buried? People like the damn show, there's MAL's 1/5 rule, the sequel effect where only people who like the show move on to the sequels and likely score it high, and countless other threads with the same thing.




lmao he gives a straight answer to a question repeated ad infinitum and your response is to call him (and us) handicapped. I can already feel my mind expanding with the insightful and fruitful discussions this thread is going to have.

Ephipany_ said:
This is the simplest answer. They don’t even care about the rankings at all, unlike the hatebase.

ZionPulse said:
Why do people do shit like this?





Well?

html said:
gintama fans are the worst      

Sean- said:
I hate this thread.
People are complaining for no reason.
Why cant forums be about something interesting.
Every time a new season comes out it's the same forum being made.

ZionPulse said:
Why do people do shit like this?





Well?

Sean- said:

Not as bad as Gintama haters or haters of any anime.

shanimebib said:

You are not the only one. Does new users in MAL even know which anime was number 1 in MAL before Brotherhood aired? It was CLANNAD After Story. And it was my favourite anime back then.

Do they even know which anime took the top spot at which day? It was Gintama and everyone thought it was an April Fool's joke. Yes. Back then MAL used to update the top anime page in a couple of days instead of couple of hours. Everyone was thinking it was an April Fool's but then when it just wouldn't go away after 1 day, 2 days, there was a huge outburst. I watched the first couple of episodes out of curiosity and couldn't get myself out from sheer disbelief and utter disgust seeing such a toxic and low budget of an anime usurped the CLANNAD After Story - the anime that made me feel all the emotions I could have ever asked for. I dropped or placed Gintama on hold for several times at the beginning. I just hated it with my guts but still came back to continue time and again just to see what actually charmed the fans of this anime.

Already a fan by then, having watched my share of Gintama, throughout which I laughed to the point my sides hurt like crazy, wept to the point I could barely read the subtitles, yet 6 years later, I was crying watching Gintama episode 305, crying more than watching any other anime in the past. I just wept and wept after hearing "Why did you choose us?"

Majority, if not all, of the shounen anime are based around getting stronger, working towards a goal, shoving us with concept of justice, trying to prove the world wrong, trying to find one's identity, avenging someone or something they held dear or so on. No anime did it like Gintama. Episode 305 differentiated and elevated Gintama from anything I have seen in any anime. It wouldn't have been possible to understand the anime, and how powerful it was if I hadn't seen the previous 304 episodes. All the small serious arcs suddenly were connected to a single episode.

I love FMA: Brotherhood, Hunter X Hunter and the likes with passion. They are some of the best anime I have seen and take up special places in my heart as an anime fan. But they really pale in comparison to how the story unfolded in Gintama which seemed like an episodic anime with no plot.

spacebishijesus said:


lmao chill out. I was asking why they liked it and why the scores are the way they are.

"if you dont like it then thats your problem" that doesn't mean anything either because it's not a problem in the first place. You childish autists are the only people making this a problem instead of the rational and evidenced discussion this should be.

AraragiNagito said:
Because we like it and therefore we rate it a high score.Is is really that hard to understand?

People say that the gintama fanbase is cancer just because we rate it 10/10 but i think it's pretty obvious that the haters are much more cancerous since they rate it 1/10 without even watching it just to drop it off the top anime list (which still doesn't even work lol)

Besides, are you people really that insecure about your tastes that you feel so intimidated just because people enjoy one particular anime more than you do?

Jesus Christ, just grow up!

spacebishijesus said:
this thread definitely gives me this impression. distinct lack of civility and grace (which I have not reciprocated because it was not there to begin with.

kisb said:


Please do not make fun of autism. its not a joke
And its a very simple statement to understand

if you dont like it thats your problem. what this means is if you dont like it then that is just how it is for you. its not something anyone can do about it. and you cant just make people stop liking it.

If you want to know why people love Gintama well its pretty obvious.
- its funny
- it has many arcs that get real emotional
- there are some action arcs that are extremely intense
- its hilarious
- people love the characters and the stories
- its silly, comical, light, amusing

holiday498 said:


I went through this thread and there were tons or civil responses, even long posts explaining their reasons why gintama is a 10/10 for them yet you did not respond to those at all and you only jump at the hate ones, which of course there are those since people tend to get aggressive when defending something they love (I'm not defending them, I'm just saying it's understandable). There is no need trying to pick out those people and labeling the fanbase so you can justify the rating you don't agree with.
As for the MAL rating, I also look at the rating and give high rated shows a go and there were so many of those high rated that just weren't my cup of tea, so I dropped them and moved on. People have very subjective tastes, just look at Pop Team Epic that is airing right now, some people love it and some hate it, it's not a big deal.

holiday498 said:


I went through this thread and there were tons or civil responses, even long posts explaining their reasons why gintama is a 10/10 for them yet you did not respond to those at all and you only jump at the hate ones, which of course there are those since people tend to get aggressive when defending something they love (I'm not defending them, I'm just saying it's understandable). There is no need trying to pick out those people and labeling the fanbase so you can justify the rating you don't agree with.
As for the MAL rating, I also look at the rating and give high rated shows a go and there were so many of those high rated that just weren't my cup of tea, so I dropped them and moved on. People have very subjective tastes, just look at Pop Team Epic that is airing right now, some people love it and some hate it, it's not a big deal.

spacebishijesus said:


oh my god you utter retard. I'm know that enjoyment is one factor and I was asking if there were any other factors.

Johan said:


LOL I'd rather watch Naruto again from Episode 1 than ever touch Gintama.

Turtles_Hunter said:

Well, it's not the only show. Have you seen the SAO haters. They're even worse.
It's always the same thing. A small part of a fandom become obnoxious and very vocal about the show. They begin to put a "hey but in X" (X being the show in question, for the two in the back that didn't follow), even when it has nothing to do with the discussion. Then hater become vocal because they're annoying, which make some moderate fans react to that, which create more haters because it become worse to have "Gintama/SAO/any serie" in every fucking possible thread. That why SAO is bashed, that why Logh is bashed, that why Gintama is bashed.

The amount of hate is only proportionnal to the amount of annoying obnoxious (I like that word) fans.

Turtles_Hunter said:

Well, it's not the only show. Have you seen the SAO haters. They're even worse.
It's always the same thing. A small part of a fandom become obnoxious and very vocal about the show. They begin to put a "hey but in X" (X being the show in question, for the two in the back that didn't follow), even when it has nothing to do with the discussion. Then hater become vocal because they're annoying, which make some moderate fans react to that, which create more haters because it become worse to have "Gintama/SAO/any serie" in every fucking possible thread. That why SAO is bashed, that why Logh is bashed, that why Gintama is bashed.

The amount of hate is only proportionnal to the amount of annoying obnoxious (I like that word) fans.

kisb said:
To put your mind at ease just know

Its not a conspiracy
People just genuinely do love Gintama

just like how people genuinely love fmab and steins;gate
people love what they love.
they dont have secret meetings with 1000s of people and plan to take over the top scores

HotaruKara said:


I understand your point of view. And yes, I know the SAO hate wave, I've been part of the anime community for more than 10 years now, so of course I know.

The difference between SAO and Gintama is that Gintama is actually good and SAO is overhyped mediocre trash.

I've been one of SAO's "haters" (more like I find the show to be really bad). But I didn't actively waste my life hating on it. I have better things to do. I just say it's trash and then go on my way.

But for some people hating on a show it's a way of life. Like being part of a fandom it's a way of life, it seems a new form of "community" has been formed. The anti-fans, the anti-fandom of something.
These are just kids (or even adults with no lives) that don't have anything better to do but to actively hate on something.

I understand that when something gets popular people start hating on it even if they haven't actually seen it, like what happened with Rick & Morty.
But even if I dislike part of Rick & Morty's fandom, I still enjoy the show and tune out the overzealous fans. I stay away from the fandom.
But I don't hate on it blindly like the sheeple just because it got very popular.

The same was with Attack on Titan back in 2013. I was annoyed by its popularity and the overzealous fans so I stayed away from the fandom. But I still enjoyed the anime. I tried to separate it from its fans.

But it still was overwhelming so I put the anime on-hold and waited for the popularity wave to fade away. It helped that the second season aired 4 years later and the erratic behaviour died out considerably.

So you can't compare actually great anime like Gintama or even okay anime like Attack on Titan with trash like SAO.

spacebishijesus said:
I know which posts you are referring to but they were either poorly written or relied way too much on irrelevant anecdotal evidence that stunk of bias. True, that's what I was in part looking for but it is for that reason that I didn't respond. I reply to the contentious answers.

Ender2195 said:
Personally, it is one of my favorite shows among anime (if the profile picture is any indication). I wouldn't call it flawless by any stretch and have rated each portion separately based on their quality. While there may be a number of people on the internet intentionally skewing the ratings (even as a fan, I find it hard to believe the general populous would rate it so highly by legitimate means), you also can't discount that there are those of us who truly enjoy the unrestrained humor of the show, even if it's not for everyone.

holiday498 said:


Well, of course it's biased because it's their opinion, you asked why people liked it right? If you saw the reasons and you disagreed with them, then it's just not a show for you, easy as that.

For example with me, it came gradually. I went through the first 20 episodes and I realised, wow, somehow I now care about the characters. And then came the first serious arc and I was really impressed with it. By the end of my binge watch I was crying during the last serious arcs. I can't tell you a specific reason for that, why I came to love the characters and appreciate the story and the humour, it just happened.

I hope you'll understand my reasoning because if you do, it means you also had an experience with some show you really liked and had a great time chilling with your fave show :)

romagia said:
i cant believe such a big thread formed out of this.....

romagia said:
i cant believe such a big thread formed out of this.....

vortex_ said:
But if you have so much time in your hands, if you still won't accept the reasons as to why the fans are such hardcore, maybe take a look at them yourself? Maybe even stress about it?

spacebishijesus said:


Thank you!

"even as a fan, I find it hard to believe the general populous would rate it so highly by legitimate means" This is exactly what I meant earlier. It is suspicious to some degree.

", you also can't discount that there are those of us who truly enjoy the unrestrained humor of the show, even if it's not for everyone." I don't. I accepted that this is a legitimate reason.

Swagernator said:
You answered yourself that question in the title OP.

spacebishijesus said:

"The difference between SAO and Gintama is that Gintama is actually good and SAO is overhyped mediocre trash." your bias ruins what was actually a well articulated post. I'm not asking you to be a bastion of objectivity but I'd suggest trying to view things more generally and be a little less opinionated because it undermines the validity of your answer, insofar that it's a pretty good argument (w/o bias that is)

HotaruKara said:


Indeed, instead of wasting their time blindly hating on something they haven't even watched, "the haters" maybe should actually check it out and then say their opinion. They will have a more informed opinion that way. And wouldn't seem so ignorant and, frankly, foolish.

HotaruKara said:


I didn't actually try to be objective but I didn't try to be biased either. I said my opinion. And yeah, it wouldn't have looked "better" if I didn't say my opinion about SAO. But I would have been dishonest. SAO sucks, no matter how you spin it. It's one of the few anime that actually irritate me. I've seen other mediocre shows but they don't compare to the level SAO irritates me.

Maybe because the first 4 episodes started out good but it all went downhill from there. I guess the huge disappointment I felt was a huge factor in me disliking the anime so much.

You can't say however that SAO is better than Gintama or Attack on Titan unless you're doing it for a meme. No matter how objective one is, putting SAO on the same level with Gintama just doesn't work.

spacebishijesus said:


If that is supposed to refer to me, then note I have seen 20 eps and then I dropped it, so I think that I have somewhat of a platform to critique upon.