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Aug 30, 2017 12:01 PM

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Night 3


The deaths of the 4 beloved witches shook the students and teachers. Andrew was at a loss as how to console his friends, he needed consolation himself.
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Word arrived from the cursed witches, they had found the chamber of time. The enchantress felt excitement for the first time in a very long time. She got up and started her prepartions.
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Someone found Amanda's diary, in it she had written how she followed a certain witch that 1st night and witnessed her leaving Diana's room. The witch was surrounded and questioned by the teachers. After much debate, they decided to isolate her and see if the deaths stopped. They hoped she would tell them if she was the one behind this, if she had trapped them all in illusion or if this was reality.

AbuHumaid - Chariot du Nord (Mafia Goon) was lynched



@CorruptedPurity has replaced ironace

Those with night actions should pm the hosts before the phase ends.






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Players List:

  1. ironace CorruptedPurity
  2. RE1031
  3. TheConquerer
  4. yurkin
  5. logic340 - Croix Meridies (Town Roleblocker) was killed N2
  6. grrr - Diana Cavendish (Town Doctor) was killed N1
  7. AbuHumaid - Chariot du Nord (Mafia Goon) was lynched D3
  8. reiynii - Amanda O'Neill (Town Cop) was lynched D2
  9. Amai_yume - Anne Finnelan (Unaware Miller) was killed N2
  10. Togs
  11. Floofs
  12. Labs
  13. AlbertinoDias


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Aug 30, 2017 12:04 PM

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Holy shit ! Perfect

And there's DEFINITELY got to be scum on the Conq counterwagon too
Aug 30, 2017 12:08 PM

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Mmm actually the only people who voted for Conq today other than Abu were Lamby and RE, and we already kind of knew one of them had to be scum from the Amai wagon.. But honestly the fact that Conq was wagoned up in response to Abu bodes well for him I think.
Aug 30, 2017 12:27 PM

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@CorruptedPurity Welcome to the game and good luck catching up. Hope we can work together to sort people out
Aug 30, 2017 12:58 PM

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Thank God
I've been here way too long...
Aug 30, 2017 2:19 PM

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RE1031 said:
Plus his posts early this game were pretty spotty. But, my purpose in pointing out that post is TheConquerer was the first person to mention that mafia killed amai, in attempt to defend himself by claiming mafia is trying to frame him. I think this was a slip - only someone who performed one of the night kills last night would know who killed who.

Yee
Knew it started from abu's #1238 since there he suggest mafia killed amai. But ye re decided to ignore it as a slip.
Aug 30, 2017 2:37 PM

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+ to add to #1356
XD posts like abu #1246 doesnt make sense at all
"that's biased, as you said mafia are trying to frame players what makes me not being framed right now? You're only trying to accuse other players of framing even your behaviour is scummy while killing the ones who suspect you and say "im just being framed" while that's definitely not the case."

Whats biased exactly XD
Ye anyway as if it cant come to me the purpose of the nk for as someone were being pocketed lol. but it was fun~
Aug 30, 2017 2:41 PM

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Fun thing is i still think re is scum here yey~
Aug 30, 2017 2:54 PM

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it seems we were right :3 @CorruptedPurity as togs said, welcome aboard and good luck defending your position xD
Togs said:
Holy shit ! Perfect

And there's DEFINITELY got to be scum on the Conq counterwagon too

why do you think that??
yurkin said:
RE1031 said:
Plus his posts early this game were pretty spotty. But, my purpose in pointing out that post is TheConquerer was the first person to mention that mafia killed amai, in attempt to defend himself by claiming mafia is trying to frame him. I think this was a slip - only someone who performed one of the night kills last night would know who killed who.

Yee
Knew it started from abu's #1238 since there he suggest mafia killed amai. But ye re decided to ignore it as a slip.

i have to disagree with you, I do believe it was a slip...
(--Abu tried to frame TQ this could either mean he's town or Mafia, because Abu knew he was going to die anyway...--)
i don't think Abu suggested amai was killed by mafia... i think he was just trying to frame TQ... without any more motives... but well, this is just how i see things... i may be wrong, but i could also be right ;) ;)
Aug 30, 2017 5:11 PM

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yurkin said:
RE1031 said:
Plus his posts early this game were pretty spotty. But, my purpose in pointing out that post is TheConquerer was the first person to mention that mafia killed amai, in attempt to defend himself by claiming mafia is trying to frame him. I think this was a slip - only someone who performed one of the night kills last night would know who killed who.

Yee
Knew it started from abu's #1238 since there he suggest mafia killed amai. But ye re decided to ignore it as a slip.

Abu's #1238 says nothing about mafia?
AbuHumaid said:
Isn't it weird how Amai died right after she said we should look into TheConq more?

Even if it did, Abu already had plenty of evidence against him. A slip from Abu would have just confirmed my suspicions that despite there being millers and framers in the set up, mechanics aren't always going to lie. And fine, let's say it was slip from Abu. What benefit would I gain from denying it? I already had my eye set on Abu the day before. Heck, I tried to lynch him the day before (!!). If you want to acknowledge that Abu made a slip, why won't you acknowledge that TheConq did as well?
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not.
Aug 30, 2017 5:27 PM

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From Abu's flip, I think TheConq is SK... And now I really need to pull up those posts where Amai said he mentioned the SK.
While I'm at it, I'll have to check on anyone Abu was defending. And the fact I can't even remember anyone should have been another sign that he was scum.
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not.
Aug 30, 2017 6:05 PM

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First things first. Admittedly I overlooked most of TheConq's post because I was busy tunneling (oops..), but he kept shading logic without actually pursuing it. He said stuff like logic was being weird, but it's too early to say, logic should know better than to tie votes, et cetera.
Also, of all the people here, TheConq has the most inconsistent reads. I recall him town reading Dias, then jumping at him for role-fishing. His votes are incredibly half-hearted, his vote on Abu and reiynii are accompanied by reasoning that sounds a lot like "there's no other explanation and I have no choice," as opposed to actually believing and caring that they are scum. He may be onto something with yurkin, but he's not done much in terms of making a solid case, mostly just back and forth arguing. He also thrown a lot of possible scum teams out in the open, almost like threats to keep people off his back.
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not.
Aug 30, 2017 6:22 PM

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TheConquerer said:
Damnit I've got dinner atm.
Reading up and it seems reiynii was lying?
Whatever vote reiynii I don't think I can ignore this and I want to see who's telling the truth.
Unless a redirector exists

TheConquerer said:
Urgh what a mess this is, I have no idea who to believe but lynching reiynii seems to be the only thing left, at least if they're town we know Abu isn't.
It's not perfect but it's all happening to fast and I had dinner yay.
Also about my redirector suggestion, It might be obvious now but I don't really read the setup for these games unless it's drastically different.

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I don't think I can hold that reasoning against you but I feel it would've been a much better choice to leave reiyii till the next day and lynch someone else.
if Abu really is miller town has the worst read possible in this game.


So I already quoted these posts but I think it's important to bring them up by themselves. This is what I mean by half-hearted.
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not.
Aug 30, 2017 8:39 PM

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RE1031 said:
From Abu's flip, I think TheConq is SK... And now I really need to pull up those posts where Amai said he mentioned the SK.
While I'm at it, I'll have to check on anyone Abu was defending. And the fact I can't even remember anyone should have been another sign that he was scum.

Do you still think hes the sk after making his iso?
Aug 30, 2017 8:45 PM

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Well after seeing where that amais comment was placed in time ...
"why are you third party hunting now where we haven't lynched mafia yet?"
And for which post was aimed, it couldn't be called "hunting" at all.

So ye i feel considerably better about theconq compared to others, Fite me re!! lol
Aug 30, 2017 10:09 PM

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Yay!!!
Aug 30, 2017 10:37 PM

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re #1363 well true, if anything can't argue against being half-hearted. :<

@Theconquerer whos scum? o/
Aug 30, 2017 11:55 PM

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Well if i don't count the presence of possible sk, that will became apparent from the upcoming nk, unless they are playing the gwendolly route here...
So taking any three players minimun one is town.
Remembering the weirdness moral victory talk lamb is back to not sure land :<

Ace and re are unalingned thats what i saw as obvious there, meaning both are not scum, thats different from pre-flip since its taking into account the interactions and possible scum theatre, which in the case of this certain pair is not possible imo.
So ace/re/lamb lamb/togs/re min one is town and etc. etc. obviously. only examples ofc :< tonights nk will further shrink the poe~
Aug 31, 2017 4:49 AM

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ironace said:
logic340 said:

@ironace did you role scum


God...I wish....DAMMIT!!!
At this point even sk is appealing :(



We got VT. Some breadcrumb signs to prove my slot is town.
Aug 31, 2017 4:51 AM

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grrr said:
Here is my claim:

A I am doctor I will protect Re1010
B I am 1 shot doctor who will protect yurkin
C I am not a doctor
D I am one shot vigilante that will shoot logic
E I am vigilante that will wait a day before shooting
G I am not vigilante
H I am a 1 shot cop and I will investigate Abu
I I am a cop and I will not investigate logic
J I am VT
K I am not a cop

((K and E) or ((B = H) ⊕ ( E or A))) -> ((C or I) -> (D ⊕ J)) is true


Boy I'm wet...
Aug 31, 2017 4:53 AM

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re #1360
yes the word mafia itself is not there, but the meaning is clearly implyed within the sentence.

"if you want to acknowledge that abu made a slip, why won't you acknowledge that theconq did as well?"

the comments were as follow: abu (#1238); tq (#1242); abu (#1246); tq(#1259)
You commented on #1259 iirc? As well did albertino, specifically albertino saw that sentence as slip "they tried to frame me, killed the miller and screwed themselves over."

But abu already implyed first that mafia killed amai, and per my observations logic death was not included in the plan - he was pretty much pocketed by abu, so it makes sense they won't target him. Even more to it some people considered the possibility of logic/abu team + the game contains not miller but unaware miller. So the quoted tq's sentence makes sense - mafia killed the unaware miller by mistake and screwed over since there could have been a way for abu to be saved by that certain mechanic, but alas

So i dont see it as slip, opinion may differ.
Aug 31, 2017 4:54 AM

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RE1031 said:
Amai_yume said:
I don't think that post is NAI because it has clear details and he is genuine imo. I'm disagreeing with what you said.

Perspective, possibly.
If I'm correct, you're currently suspecting Abu. Why not go after him (especially now that we have less than 24 hours in the phase)? While tunneling isn't always the most effective way of hunting scum, even if they are town, it can clear up any bad feelings you have about them, which would be difficult to accomplish doing otherwise.


Town points for RE cos I don't think scum would like to increase a spark of suspicion amongst their members
Aug 31, 2017 4:55 AM

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That is only about the slip part, its true tq is being lazy not giving reads and stuff >.>
Aug 31, 2017 4:57 AM

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reiynii said:
AbuHumaid said:
@reiynii is there a reason you're not voting?
I meant to vote for you but I forgot!
Vote: Abu!


Scum bussing cos Abu is not leading train? Worth contemplating

But reiynii to trapfu to push
Aug 31, 2017 5:03 AM

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yurkin said:
re #1360
yes the word mafia itself is not there, but the meaning is clearly implyed within the sentence.

"if you want to acknowledge that abu made a slip, why won't you acknowledge that theconq did as well?"

the comments were as follow: abu (#1238); tq (#1242); abu (#1246); tq(#1259)
You commented on #1259 iirc? As well did albertino, specifically albertino saw that sentence as slip "they tried to frame me, killed the miller and screwed themselves over."

But abu already implyed first that mafia killed amai, and per my observations logic death was not included in the plan - he was pretty much pocketed by abu, so it makes sense they won't target him. Even more to it some people considered the possibility of logic/abu team + the game contains not miller but unaware miller. So the quoted tq's sentence makes sense - mafia killed the unaware miller by mistake and screwed over since there could have been a way for abu to be saved by that certain mechanic, but alas

So i dont see it as slip, opinion may differ.

did not though like that, it actually makes sense... but after tomorrow we will see :)
Aug 31, 2017 5:03 AM

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Post #566-#582 was abu's Catch up


Pinged logic in 567
amai in 568
logic in 569
rei chan in 569 and 570
grrr in 579 + 580
yurkin in 581
amai in 582

Who wasn't touched

Me, RE, Conq, Togs, Floofs, Labs, Dias
Aug 31, 2017 5:05 AM

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AbuHumaid said:
reiynii said:
This makes it sound like the moment somebody comes to make interactions with you, you try to keep it short and minimal which is why you remind me of that other game. Mind you, I died the first day and only knew you were mafia because I looked at the thread after my death since you also died shortly after so I only have your inactivity to judge you by as for meta.
Also this is aimed at Logic who asked me that question in post #650 but how can I make a case about you or find more when you aren't really making many posts. All of your posts that I read were neutral except the ones I'm pointing out because they stand out to me which is why I also find your dismissive behavior a mafia mindset ^ ^)/

Let's change the subject though and add some pressure~
Vote: Abu!
Didn't Amai ask this? Oh well! (please do refer me if I missed a post where you explained this)
Who are your top 3 suspects and your biggest town reads?
you really are pissing me off
How am I keeping convos short and minimal? If so how am I talking to you right now, are you kidding me? And even so not being talkative is completely NAI, go see one of my town games you're being unreasonable and biased right now. So you're judging me from a game meta that was over 2 months ago? Lol ok. Again why are you suspecting me? Make it quick and straight to the point don't bring up irrelevant topics.

Vote: Reiynii
You're being so unclear about your read on me, how can you be this sure I'm scum wtf? You're calling me out for stuff like inactivity and you're being not much helpful either. You were staying out of the main trains on Day 1 thinking that your unpopular opinion will get you town read.

@logic340 @RE1031 @Amai_yume @Floofs
What do you think of a reiynii lynch


Too hard to be a bus. Rei chan is always a town in my eyes. Im biased
Aug 31, 2017 5:10 AM

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RE1031 said:
vote: AbuHumaid
Yeah, I suspected as much.
Togs said:
##vote: Abuhumaid

I'm down for going down this route. Even if Reiynii is lying we caught scum either way
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reiynii said:
Fine. I'm the cop and I investigated Abu yesterday and he turned out bad.
Jesus, shoot me already mafia!

@Theconquered with this, i can explain you better, you have 2 options here, believe or not believe, if you do you will change your vote to Abu, if you don't, you'll lynch her, and tomorrow will vote Abu if she was really the cop, or lo




vote:Abu


Someone is bussing I think. Better bus fast for more town points
Aug 31, 2017 5:12 AM

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AbuHumaid said:
I really think RE is scum, I know her she's way more active than this as town, she was town reading reiynii regardless of his scummy actions, as if she was starving for town credit.

Vote: RE1031


Last minute ditch effort to clear buddy?
Aug 31, 2017 5:13 AM

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Gun to head, RE is maf, Laby is SK
Aug 31, 2017 10:27 AM

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When day time comes, I'll have a look at both the way the votes were scattered the day reiyuu was lynched, who supported Abu and then once more at my own train to see if there's any connection. I imagine this is the best place to find scum.
I've been here way too long...
Aug 31, 2017 11:06 AM

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Nah i shouldn't clear the ace slot so easily, i remember how he townread abu based on gut feeling, and iirc abu never voted for him but pushed reiynii. Along with playing the waiting game and admiting of voting just because logic told him to do so and etc. etc.

Well will see the flip.
Aug 31, 2017 12:00 PM

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Day 4


That night, the enchantress and one of the cursed witches were roaming the halls of Luna Nova Academy. They had been preparing all day to get into the chamber of time, now they would make their move.
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Andrew was keeping watch while his friends got some rest. He was feeling a bit better, they'd caught Chariot earlier that day and soon they would be able to put an end to this and hopefully revive the fallen witches. He saw something fluttering outside, he walked up to the window to get a better look when the fatal blow came from behind.

Floofs - Andrew Hanbridge (Town Innocent Child) was killed



All phases are now 24 hours long.





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Players List:

  1. ironace CorruptedPurity
  2. RE1031
  3. TheConquerer
  4. yurkin
  5. logic340 - Croix Meridies (Town Roleblocker) was killed N2
  6. grrr - Diana Cavendish (Town Doctor) was killed N1
  7. AbuHumaid - Chariot du Nord (Mafia Goon) was lynched D3
  8. reiynii - Amanda O'Neill (Town Cop) was lynched D2
  9. Amai_yume - Anne Finnelan (Unaware Miller) was killed N2
  10. Togs
  11. Floofs - Andrew Hanbridge (Town Innocent Child) was killed N3
  12. Labs
  13. AlbertinoDias


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Aug 31, 2017 12:05 PM

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Going for the safe kill i see.
So did re theory of sk just crashed hmm.
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@CorruptedPurity, @RE1031, @TheConquerer, @yurkin, @Togs, @Labs, @AlbertinoDias

Just wanted to direct your attention to the fact that day phases are now 24 hours long.

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Aug 31, 2017 12:08 PM

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well, Vote: TheConquerer
1 yesterday, another one today :3
yurkin said:
Going for the safe kill i see.
So did re theory of sk just crashed hmm.

what theory??

Aug 31, 2017 12:09 PM

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Well let's try this for now...

vote: re1031
Aug 31, 2017 12:11 PM

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AlbertinoDias said:
well, Vote: TheConquerer
1 yesterday, another one today :3
yurkin said:
Going for the safe kill i see.
So did re theory of sk just crashed hmm.

what theory??


The existance of sk theory that is, but i dont see proofs for it.
Aug 31, 2017 12:13 PM
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Vote Count 4.0

TheConquerer (1): AlbertinoDias
RE1031 (1): yurkin

Players not voting: CorruptedPurity, RE1031, TheConquerer, Togs, Labs


Mod Notes: Day phases are now 24 hours long.


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grave_robber said:
@CorruptedPurity, @RE1031, @TheConquerer, @yurkin, @Togs, @Labs, @AlbertinoDias

Just wanted to direct your attention to the fact that day phases are now 24 hours long.

Like... i really did forgot about it grave :<
Aug 31, 2017 12:15 PM

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Oh wait there is a brand new slot here <3

change vote: cp
Aug 31, 2017 12:18 PM

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yurkin said:
AlbertinoDias said:
well, Vote: TheConquerer
1 yesterday, another one today :3

what theory??


The existence of sk theory that is, but i dont see proofs for it.

the 2 night kills in night 2?? maybe?? (well even if we can't confirm it, if it's not SK it's Vig, don't you think??)
Aug 31, 2017 12:18 PM

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@corruptedpurity hey cp what makes you say its re and lamb? want to hear how it looks from your pov.
Aug 31, 2017 12:22 PM

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AlbertinoDias said:
yurkin said:

The existence of sk theory that is, but i dont see proofs for it.

the 2 night kills in night 2?? maybe?? (well even if we can't confirm it, if it's not SK it's Vig, don't you think??)

Ye im up for the vig theory more because n1 and n3 were both with only 1 kill, making n2 an exception.
Aug 31, 2017 12:25 PM

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Like i got it from your tq iso yesterday, so is there other beside tq you suspect albertino?
Aug 31, 2017 12:28 PM

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well, right now, i'm more interested in why labs is SK... what makes you think that way @CorruptedPurity?? and
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AbuHumaid said:
I really think RE is scum, I know her she's way more active than this as town, she was town reading reiynii regardless of his scummy actions, as if she was starving for town credit.

Vote: RE1031


Last minute ditch effort to clear buddy?


why do you think this way??
Aug 31, 2017 12:30 PM

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yurkin said:
Like i got it from your tq iso yesterday, so is there other beside tq you suspect albertino?

It was Iron.. have to wait for CP to come back and defend herself :) after her is labs :) then togs/RE then you :) but i think we will stop at CP, i don't think there are 4 mafia :)
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AlbertinoDias said:
yurkin said:
Like i got it from your tq iso yesterday, so is there other beside tq you suspect albertino?

It was Iron.. have to wait for CP to come back and defend herself :) after her is labs :) then togs/RE then you :) but i think we will stop at CP, i don't think there are 4 mafia :)

XD 4 mafia in 13 players game would be the end for town, ye same.
Agreed with that list for poe order.
Aug 31, 2017 12:43 PM

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Safe kill is quite telling of how one flip may be too revealing at this point...
Anyway...

Good night~
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If there is no SK, then how were there two kills day 2? Vig? Ugh. That's even worse than me shooting Rinto-kun... At least there were no vote snipes then, just major CFD.

vote: TheConquerer
Heck, he could have totally bussed Abu yesterday. His vote two days ago on reiynii was weak. Not only did it go with the flow of the game rather than making original conclusions, it would make perfect sense as it spared Abu a day and got rid of a townie.

@Labs
Thoughts?
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not.
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