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Jun 7, 2017 1:31 PM
#601
Karote said: wen294 said: Ah ohkey Pyro, thanks for answering that. That's one worry less. logic340 said: This response instead of answering the question bothers me. Couple it with the post below where you tell Coelestin that yo missed it though you clearly didn't make you look really bad. very comfortable in doing this Unvote: Vote: Militus @wen294 that thing you are worried about ironace doing I think this is the one you need to be looking out for. The Shinichi vote is exactly the type of thing you were talking about in regard to going with the flow. Do you see him as 3rd party? He might be 3rd party, or maybe he's being weird to create confusion and raise suspicion? |
Jun 7, 2017 1:43 PM
#602
So, Sleipnirr has been my strongest townread for a good while now, but it was bugging how almost nobody seemed to be talking much about him except to criticize his vote. Since everyone, especially scum, regularly ignores me when I talk about townreads, I figured I should try a different approach to see if I could get other players to give other perspectives on Sleipnirr. I got perspectives from Coel and Karote, but most other people seem to be avoiding Sleipnirr like the plague. That said, there is one person I'm specific whose response bothered me, logic. Logic was the most vocal critic of Sleipnirr's vote, yet wouldn't touch on the subject when I was presenting it in the form of a train. It feels really strange to me, and since I've been getting a pretty evil tonal read from him this game, I'm going to move my vote there. Vote: logic340 This guy is actually evil. I'm not lying about my read this time. |
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Jun 7, 2017 1:48 PM
#603
PentaFlare said: So, Sleipnirr has been my strongest townread for a good while now, but it was bugging how almost nobody seemed to be talking much about him except to criticize his vote. Since everyone, especially scum, regularly ignores me when I talk about townreads, I figured I should try a different approach to see if I could get other players to give other perspectives on Sleipnirr. I got perspectives from Coel and Karote, but most other people seem to be avoiding Sleipnirr like the plague. Could you link posts? I don't town read Sleipnirr too much but he hasn't done anything beyond the norm for his gameplay. I actually fully agreed with logic's response to Karote. But you say he was critical of Sleipnirr's vote earlier? That seems a little contradictory. As for my current read on logic, I don't think he's scum this time. Purely gut right now. Obligatory tag: @PTYamin Where are yoOOUuuuu |
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Jun 7, 2017 1:51 PM
#604
ok so since im free for a while, i will go through what ive missed and give my thoughts. And since most of you guys keep on bugging me to give my vote, ill prolly vote as well. |
Jun 7, 2017 1:57 PM
#605
PentaFlare said: And here I was thinking I tied up all the loose ends...how did you do effortlessly see through my nefarious plans? So, Sleipnirr has been my strongest townread for a good while now, but it was bugging how almost nobody seemed to be talking much about him except to criticize his vote. Since everyone, especially scum, regularly ignores me when I talk about townreads, I figured I should try a different approach to see if I could get other players to give other perspectives on Sleipnirr. I got perspectives from Coel and Karote, but most other people seem to be avoiding Sleipnirr like the plague. That said, there is one person I'm specific whose response bothered me, logic. Logic was the most vocal critic of Sleipnirr's vote, yet wouldn't touch on the subject when I was presenting it in the form of a train. It feels really strange to me, and since I've been getting a pretty evil tonal read from him this game, I'm going to move my vote there. Vote: logic340 This guy is actually evil. I'm not lying about my read this time. What exactly is it I didn't touch on? |
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Jun 7, 2017 2:01 PM
#606
RE1031 said: just do you know my read on Sleipnirr is also neutral right now. After he wrecked me in Castle Panic and I Vigged him in Stray Dogs I realized something about Sleipnirr's late game play as town. I promised him I wouldn't let him be lynch fodder D1 because he's an important asset if he's town and I'm confident I can catch him as scum. So unless I'm certain he's scum or there is a great case against him in not touching it.PentaFlare said: So, Sleipnirr has been my strongest townread for a good while now, but it was bugging how almost nobody seemed to be talking much about him except to criticize his vote. Since everyone, especially scum, regularly ignores me when I talk about townreads, I figured I should try a different approach to see if I could get other players to give other perspectives on Sleipnirr. I got perspectives from Coel and Karote, but most other people seem to be avoiding Sleipnirr like the plague. Could you link posts? I don't town read Sleipnirr too much but he hasn't done anything beyond the norm for his gameplay. I actually fully agreed with logic's response to Karote. But you say he was critical of Sleipnirr's vote earlier? That seems a little contradictory. As for my current read on logic, I don't think he's scum this time. Purely gut right now. Obligatory tag: @PTYamin Where are yoOOUuuuu |
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Jun 7, 2017 2:08 PM
#607
Sleipnirr said: Coelestin said: Sleipnirr said: Still my vote is gonna stay there till I find a better target and thats hard considering we still have like a day and a half left which means trying to get a read on everyone as much as possible. You're telling someone to act while you're not acting yourself despite having two suspicions seemingly better than ironace. Why hesitate? Tell me if I've missed something. Vote: Sleipnirr Because those are weak reads and if I attack people with weak reads people are gonna blame me for nitpicking my reads not having substance and make that a reason for voting me dont tell me this hasnt happened to me before thats why I wait till the end of the day phase to make a final vote. I am saying that to iron ace to giving him a feel for the game. Yeah, I've seen you be the punching bag a lot of times too, dunno what to tell you here srsly. I'd like to tell you to follow your dreams like Carrot and vote for Wen cause it was actually not a bad reason for a D1 vote but eh :| |
Jun 7, 2017 2:09 PM
#608
logic340 said: RE1031 said: just do you know my read on Sleipnirr is also neutral right now. After he wrecked me in Castle Panic and I Vigged him in Stray Dogs I realized something about Sleipnirr's late game play as town. I promised him I wouldn't let him be lynch fodder D1 because he's an important asset if he's town and I'm confident I can catch him as scum. So unless I'm certain he's scum or there is a great case against him in not touching it.PentaFlare said: So, Sleipnirr has been my strongest townread for a good while now, but it was bugging how almost nobody seemed to be talking much about him except to criticize his vote. Since everyone, especially scum, regularly ignores me when I talk about townreads, I figured I should try a different approach to see if I could get other players to give other perspectives on Sleipnirr. I got perspectives from Coel and Karote, but most other people seem to be avoiding Sleipnirr like the plague. Could you link posts? I don't town read Sleipnirr too much but he hasn't done anything beyond the norm for his gameplay. I actually fully agreed with logic's response to Karote. But you say he was critical of Sleipnirr's vote earlier? That seems a little contradictory. As for my current read on logic, I don't think he's scum this time. Purely gut right now. Obligatory tag: @PTYamin Where are yoOOUuuuu I see. What do you think of PTYamin? I've never played with them and I don't know if they're new or not (they don't sound new), so I'm wondering why they are very inactive right now? What about yurkin? I get the feeling she and reiynii may be scum buddies, and reiynii is feeding her things to say... #280 - this seems more like something reiynii would say..... |
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Jun 7, 2017 2:20 PM
#609
RE1031 said: PTYamin has like 2 posts. I asked them a question that wasn't answered while they were online. Not sure if they even made it that far? Not Enough Info so neutral for right now.logic340 said: RE1031 said: PentaFlare said: So, Sleipnirr has been my strongest townread for a good while now, but it was bugging how almost nobody seemed to be talking much about him except to criticize his vote. Since everyone, especially scum, regularly ignores me when I talk about townreads, I figured I should try a different approach to see if I could get other players to give other perspectives on Sleipnirr. I got perspectives from Coel and Karote, but most other people seem to be avoiding Sleipnirr like the plague. Could you link posts? I don't town read Sleipnirr too much but he hasn't done anything beyond the norm for his gameplay. I actually fully agreed with logic's response to Karote. But you say he was critical of Sleipnirr's vote earlier? That seems a little contradictory. As for my current read on logic, I don't think he's scum this time. Purely gut right now. Obligatory tag: @PTYamin Where are yoOOUuuuu I see. What do you think of PTYamin? I've never played with them and I don't know if they're new or not (they don't sound new), so I'm wondering why they are very inactive right now? What about yurkin? I get the feeling she and reiynii may be scum buddies, and reiynii is feeding her things to say... #280 - this seems more like something reiynii would say..... yurkin is kind of lost in the sea of posts right now. yurkin has some experience with Abu so her pinging him like that doesn't surprise me. Why the comparison to reiynii though? I guess I'm not seeing it? I'll look closer st yurkin after Militus. |
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Jun 7, 2017 2:30 PM
#610
Shinichi-Kun said: grrr said: Just for this game I think it is okay if the miller stays hidden. I doubt he will ever be counter claimed. If he claims early SK is very likely to target him early (at least I would target him day 1-3 if i was SK, because mafia has no reasons to go for the miller.) WHy would the sk kill miller? If miller dies then everyone will know that the sk is someone that is wary and paying attention to the thread. Also miller should claim as soona s possible, if anything hes a good test dummy for harmful effects that may be hidden behind that ??? role. Because SK doesn't want to kill mafia's target. And mafia will obviously not go for the miller. How about this shinichi, you claim miller and I promise to kill you tonight if I am SK. Deal ? |
Jun 7, 2017 2:30 PM
#611
RE1031 said: PentaFlare said: So, Sleipnirr has been my strongest townread for a good while now, but it was bugging how almost nobody seemed to be talking much about him except to criticize his vote. Since everyone, especially scum, regularly ignores me when I talk about townreads, I figured I should try a different approach to see if I could get other players to give other perspectives on Sleipnirr. I got perspectives from Coel and Karote, but most other people seem to be avoiding Sleipnirr like the plague. Could you link posts? I don't town read Sleipnirr too much but he hasn't done anything beyond the norm for his gameplay. I actually fully agreed with logic's response to Karote. But you say he was critical of Sleipnirr's vote earlier? That seems a little contradictory. As for my current read on logic, I don't think he's scum this time. Purely gut right now. Obligatory tag: @PTYamin Where are yoOOUuuuu I don't need to quote specific posts. It hits everything. Sleip's approach of trying to sort players he doesn't know first is good. His thought process while forming reads is easy to follow and as such contains no hints of deception. He also has responded to criticism of his votes by clarifying misunderstanding and not being defensive. All of this is a very clear town mindset. If you look back you will see logic disagreeing with Sleipnirr's vote on iron. At that point logic seems wary of him, so I don't understand the strong opposition to voting Sleip just because I haven't given a reason myself. This fits in with why I'm scumreading logic. His approach to the game is evil. He is still generating content as usual and pushing the game forwards, but his focus has been on getting information from others first, and then reacting to that information. Less of his content is discussions he is starting. Just like with Sleip, he doesn't want to be providing the read to be critiqued, he wants to critique and nuance the reads of others. This is of behaviour shows an attempt to control the opinion of the thread and is typical of powerwolfing. |
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Jun 7, 2017 2:31 PM
#612
logic340 said: thoughts: -No vote for me thus far this game which I like but raises concerns because it's something he likes to do. So the fact it isn't happening here is making me question why things have changed? #113 - This is the closest thing to a claim from grrr thus far. I am used to town grrr claiming something early. #116 - I am assuming he envisions Karote being the Mayor of this game of as long as he s alive. Not sure if this comes from town or scum mindset. #124 - I know he likes to claim early and in this instance rather than just straight up do it (which I half expected) he asks for our thoughts and says he wants to mass claim. I have brought up the possibility of a negative reduction to this but he doesn't seems to care as he hasn't responded to it. #136 - I find it hypocritical to talk to someone else about their vote when he hasn't placed one of his own. Also it seems he's more suspicious of ironace for not voting or at least wants to get him going by voting him but he votes Shinichi in this same post? #137 - I don't think it's useless and on days that he cannot use his ability he can still use his Captain Role in the way being suggested. #143 - Explains to reiynii why he feels his plan is worth outing town roles. I don't agree but eh... #167 - This one is weird because they were both town that game? 1. lol k. He isn't very fond of Shin either tho, just an fyi. #113 True, I've only played closed set up games with him though, dunno how that goes with open set ups. I think he showed that he's wary of the possible risk in claiming in this game. I can't look into his mind though. #116 Huh? I don't see it. #124 See above #136 Grrr and I have history. He likes to grace me as traitor and treat me as such. I think the joking undertone is clear in that one lol. #137 Personal opinion... #143 Personal opinion. What he says in that post makes sense imo tho. I'd just not do mass claims myself since I've been at both sides of the mass claiming before (the losing and the winning one) and it's just not fun that way. But it is a way to win as well. #167 Uh, idk about that. idk what's always the deal with people suspecting grrr like that because I think after a while you kind of get a grasp about how he's playing. I mean yeah, maybe if you're not used to him you can get pretty wild ideas when reading his posts... there's not a lot I can agree with in this post, I don't have any read on him and I can't get where you're coming from, or Shin if he actually scum reads grrr. Hope that answers your question about what I think about him. |
Jun 7, 2017 2:34 PM
#613
PentaFlare said: If you look back you will see logic disagreeing with Sleipnirr's vote on iron. At that point logic seems wary of him, so I don't understand the strong opposition to voting Sleip just because I haven't given a reason myself. This is actually what I was asking to be linked to... But fine, I'll search it for myself, when I do a massive reread. |
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Jun 7, 2017 2:36 PM
#614
Exaggerated bruh |
Jun 7, 2017 2:37 PM
#615
RE1031 said: PentaFlare said: If you look back you will see logic disagreeing with Sleipnirr's vote on iron. At that point logic seems wary of him, so I don't understand the strong opposition to voting Sleip just because I haven't given a reason myself. This is actually what I was asking to be linked to... But fine, I'll search it for myself, when I do a massive reread. Good luck. I actually don't remember where it is at all. I'm pretty sure it happened though. |
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Jun 7, 2017 2:38 PM
#616
ironace said: grrr's idea is bad, lynch a townie just to get perks? Lol. The way you put it ahahah. Though if I town read you, but you give me perk guaranteed I would lynch you on the spot. perks + someone dead = best outcome. |
Jun 7, 2017 2:39 PM
#617
Coelestin said: @ironace if I'd vote for Grrr or Shin and invite you to vote for them as well, would you follow me? Why me and him !? You could lynch me and anyone else ... I am absolutely against that. |
Jun 7, 2017 2:40 PM
#618
logic340 said: PentaFlare said: And here I was thinking I tied up all the loose ends...how did you do effortlessly see through my nefarious plans? So, Sleipnirr has been my strongest townread for a good while now, but it was bugging how almost nobody seemed to be talking much about him except to criticize his vote. Since everyone, especially scum, regularly ignores me when I talk about townreads, I figured I should try a different approach to see if I could get other players to give other perspectives on Sleipnirr. I got perspectives from Coel and Karote, but most other people seem to be avoiding Sleipnirr like the plague. That said, there is one person I'm specific whose response bothered me, logic. Logic was the most vocal critic of Sleipnirr's vote, yet wouldn't touch on the subject when I was presenting it in the form of a train. It feels really strange to me, and since I've been getting a pretty evil tonal read from him this game, I'm going to move my vote there. Vote: logic340 This guy is actually evil. I'm not lying about my read this time. What exactly is it I didn't touch on? Tying up loose ends or not, the main problem is just your approach this game of drawing out reads then reacting rather than creating. |
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Jun 7, 2017 2:43 PM
#619
logic340 said: @RE1031 read on from hereSleipnirr said: this is his first game I've been trying to get him to play for a while now. I like your questions I guess, not so much the vote as I have a gut level town read on ironace right now but let's see where you go with this.vote : Ironace I dont know you so why shouldnt I vote you. Start talking about yourself and your mafia experience champ. Anyway going to sleep good night everyone. |
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Jun 7, 2017 2:45 PM
#620
PentaFlare said: I would beg to differ considering I put on more reads than anyone else this gamelogic340 said: PentaFlare said: So, Sleipnirr has been my strongest townread for a good while now, but it was bugging how almost nobody seemed to be talking much about him except to criticize his vote. Since everyone, especially scum, regularly ignores me when I talk about townreads, I figured I should try a different approach to see if I could get other players to give other perspectives on Sleipnirr. I got perspectives from Coel and Karote, but most other people seem to be avoiding Sleipnirr like the plague. That said, there is one person I'm specific whose response bothered me, logic. Logic was the most vocal critic of Sleipnirr's vote, yet wouldn't touch on the subject when I was presenting it in the form of a train. It feels really strange to me, and since I've been getting a pretty evil tonal read from him this game, I'm going to move my vote there. Vote: logic340 This guy is actually evil. I'm not lying about my read this time. What exactly is it I didn't touch on? Tying up loose ends or not, the main problem is just your approach this game of drawing out reads then reacting rather than creating. |
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Jun 7, 2017 2:49 PM
#621
logic340 said: PentaFlare said: I would beg to differ considering I put on more reads than anyone else this gamelogic340 said: PentaFlare said: And here I was thinking I tied up all the loose ends...how did you do effortlessly see through my nefarious plans? So, Sleipnirr has been my strongest townread for a good while now, but it was bugging how almost nobody seemed to be talking much about him except to criticize his vote. Since everyone, especially scum, regularly ignores me when I talk about townreads, I figured I should try a different approach to see if I could get other players to give other perspectives on Sleipnirr. I got perspectives from Coel and Karote, but most other people seem to be avoiding Sleipnirr like the plague. That said, there is one person I'm specific whose response bothered me, logic. Logic was the most vocal critic of Sleipnirr's vote, yet wouldn't touch on the subject when I was presenting it in the form of a train. It feels really strange to me, and since I've been getting a pretty evil tonal read from him this game, I'm going to move my vote there. Vote: logic340 This guy is actually evil. I'm not lying about my read this time. What exactly is it I didn't touch on? Tying up loose ends or not, the main problem is just your approach this game of drawing out reads then reacting rather than creating. Maybe you have, but this isn't quantity. You always defend with quantity. That's not what matters. Approach and motivation is. Your method of providing reads is scum motivated. Especially that one time you responded to me about my vote in Sleip by saying how you would instead be doing an ISO on the person you were actually voting. These are reads generated with ulterior motive. Either you are trying to influence someone else's view, or you are making an effort to make everyone see how productive you are being. |
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Jun 7, 2017 2:49 PM
#622
PentaFlare said: logic340 said: wen294 said: Coelestin said: DenjaX said: Btw, I ddnt expect the game would start late and my schedule got conflicted so I wont be here for most of day 1... >.< I wont vote if I ddnt catch up much. Poor Denja -patpat-. Fite me >.< Fite me irl bro, i'll rek u so hard u'll die to death. My bet's on Magical Choco Girl Chichi. She would totally beat up wen in a fight. Not every chinese knows kung fu. |
Jun 7, 2017 2:53 PM
#623
PentaFlare said: This fits in with why I'm scumreading logic. His approach to the game is evil. He is still generating content as usual and pushing the game forwards, but his focus has been on getting information from others first, and then reacting to that information. Less of his content is discussions he is starting. Just like with Sleip, he doesn't want to be providing the read to be critiqued, he wants to critique and nuance the reads of others. This is of behaviour shows an attempt to control the opinion of the thread and is typical of powerwolfing. lol. I don't know about the whole thing about logic scum reading and then town reading Sleip, but this actually sounds kinda accurate. It only struck to me in his tunneling and his early read list. |
Jun 7, 2017 2:54 PM
#624
PentaFlare said: I see that your man good with a paintbrush. I'm not generating reads I'm writing through then.logic340 said: PentaFlare said: logic340 said: PentaFlare said: And here I was thinking I tied up all the loose ends...how did you do effortlessly see through my nefarious plans? So, Sleipnirr has been my strongest townread for a good while now, but it was bugging how almost nobody seemed to be talking much about him except to criticize his vote. Since everyone, especially scum, regularly ignores me when I talk about townreads, I figured I should try a different approach to see if I could get other players to give other perspectives on Sleipnirr. I got perspectives from Coel and Karote, but most other people seem to be avoiding Sleipnirr like the plague. That said, there is one person I'm specific whose response bothered me, logic. Logic was the most vocal critic of Sleipnirr's vote, yet wouldn't touch on the subject when I was presenting it in the form of a train. It feels really strange to me, and since I've been getting a pretty evil tonal read from him this game, I'm going to move my vote there. Vote: logic340 This guy is actually evil. I'm not lying about my read this time. What exactly is it I didn't touch on? Tying up loose ends or not, the main problem is just your approach this game of drawing out reads then reacting rather than creating. Maybe you have, but this isn't quantity. You always defend with quantity. That's not what matters. Approach and motivation is. Your method of providing reads is scum motivated. Especially that one time you responded to me about my vote in Sleip by saying how you would instead be doing an ISO on the person you were actually voting. These are reads generated with ulterior motive. Either you are trying to influence someone else's view, or you are making an effort to make everyone see how productive you are being. You yourself say there is content driving the game so there's obviously so quality to the quantity of reads I'm putting out. All my votes have been on my own reads not piggybacking of the refs I'm getting from others? This tread feels forced but continue on. |
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Jun 7, 2017 2:55 PM
#626
you never like my votes :P |
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Jun 7, 2017 2:58 PM
#627
logic340 said: you never like my votes :P What would be the fun if I liked all of them... I always like all of Penta's votes in like all games we're town together cause he's better at making them vocal than me, that's boring, I'm telling ya. You're way funnier to fite. No offense Penta, we can fite anytime as well even though I don't know how <3 |
Jun 7, 2017 3:00 PM
#629
ok so i have caught up with the disscussion so heres my answers to some of the questions i remember @coelestin I will not mind sheeping but you need to give atlest some convincing evidence to get my vote. And the reason why i say that shinichi is not neutral is because if he was then he would want to have some level of idea about sledge's role, but he doesnt, which isnt very beneficial to either the town or the 3rd party. Im siding with the fact that he's a mafia for now but i will not vote him for now. Ive actually forgotten why i was suspicious of grrr, he hasent talked after the begining of D1 and so i havent managed to get a better grasp of his character. As i said before my reasons were partly based on a gut feeling and that was the case with pentaflare. And for the moment of truth, the one you all have been waiting for, the person im voting for will be millitus. THIS IS NOT BECAUSE HE COPIED ME OK??!! well he appears to act too sinister and omnious, but his level is one which i believe will be avoided by the mafia. I dont think he is a townie either-if he is, hes trying to act as a shady man.I think he is neutral.I am voting for him because i see the roles of the 3rd party to be the most annoying ones to deal with. If you guys have some thoughts to share on why i could be wrong im willing to listen. But for now, vote:Millitus BTW, im soo popular right now ...hehehe. This is bad. |
Jun 7, 2017 3:01 PM
#630
Jun 7, 2017 3:02 PM
#631
Coelestin said: we do have some good battles...Why do you feel I'm exaggerating when he says he didn't see your post but responded to it?What would be the fun if I liked all of them... I always like all of Penta's votes in like all games we're town together cause he's better at making them vocal than me, that's boring, I'm telling ya. You're way funnier to fite. No offense Penta, we can fite anytime as well even though I don't know how <3 |
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Jun 7, 2017 3:04 PM
#632
logic340 said: grrr: Day 1: #62 - Going to read the rules when he gets home. #113 - Says he basically done with the rules shares his thoughts on powers that should receive Doc protection. #116 - Tells Karote he expects him to name the town looking players to stay on the lynch train to ensure perks for town. #117 - Asks Pyro if Gas Grenade is like strongman. #120 - Tells Pyro he was joking asks if Pyro is serious. Tells Karote to enjoy the day because he'll likely die. #124 - Thinks we should mass claim, feels this game is winnable this way. Says we should put it to a vote and votes in favor. #125 - Asks logic what he is talking about as Pyrounga is not close to lynching. #126 - Tells Pyro now he is just making up rules. #136 - Tells Coelestin she is all high and mighty since she ditched the numbers. Tells ironace he hasn't seen him before and he doesn't like him. Tells Penta that Jumper is bastard but it's a Pyro game. Tells reiynii not to use nongame related reasons for voting. Vote Shinichi. #137 - Tells Reiynii to be less happy. Tells Karote his ability is useless and that he wouldn't use it if he was captain. Anyone how doesn't listen is obv scum. #138 - Asks Pyro if Body Guard and Cap are targeted at the same time will they both die. #140 - Tells Penta that Reiynii having 5 husbands is not normal. #143 - Tells Reiynii that putting Mafia in a claim situation is bad for them since they will be countered. #144 - Asks Pyro to put the names next to the images in the OP. #165 - Says for this game he feels the Miller can stay hidden. He doubts they would be counter claimed and it gives SK a free target as mafia wont touch them. #166 - Tells logic that he dislikes ironace because he doesn't want to vote. #167 - Tells Suzune she is lucky he was killed early last game but he will catch her here. #180 - Tells ironace he hates it when people bold things that don't need to be bolded. thoughts: -No vote for me thus far this game which I like but raises concerns because it's something he likes to do. So the fact it isn't happening here is making me question why things have changed? #113 - This is the closest thing to a claim from grrr thus far. I am used to town grrr claiming something early. #116 - I am assuming he envisions Karote being the Mayor of this game of as long as he s alive. Not sure if this comes from town or scum mindset. #124 - I know he likes to claim early and in this instance rather than just straight up do it (which I half expected) he asks for our thoughts and says he wants to mass claim. I have brought up the possibility of a negative reduction to this but he doesn't seems to care as he hasn't responded to it. #136 - I find it hypocritical to talk to someone else about their vote when he hasn't placed one of his own. Also it seems he's more suspicious of ironace for not voting or at least wants to get him going by voting him but he votes Shinichi in this same post? #137 - I don't think it's useless and on days that he cannot use his ability he can still use his Captain Role in the way being suggested. #143 - Explains to reiynii why he feels his plan is worth outing town roles. I don't agree but eh... #167 - This one is weird because they were both town that game? Questions @grrr: If there is a jumper or executioner do you still think it's worth the risk to mass claim? in #140 you told Penta that reiynii having 5 husbands is not normal. What does this tell you about his alignment if nothing why is it relevant? in #165 you say the Miller can stay silent since they probably wouldn't be counter claimed. While I could see mafia wanting to fake claim this role it's extremely dangerous for them to do so. Wouldn't the Miller coming forward give us 2 confirmed town? Also with multiple watcher type abilities we can watch Miller to see if SK tries to kill them no? In conclusion I am good with my vote where it is and would like people to weigh in on this. It's small and I may do a few more here shortly since we have so many who have posted so little. You know this post is too long for me to read right? : D Logic I have tricky question for you: if I was mafia who would I kill first? |
Jun 7, 2017 3:09 PM
#633
Coelestin said: logic340 said: thoughts: -No vote for me thus far this game which I like but raises concerns because it's something he likes to do. So the fact it isn't happening here is making me question why things have changed? #113 - This is the closest thing to a claim from grrr thus far. I am used to town grrr claiming something early. #116 - I am assuming he envisions Karote being the Mayor of this game of as long as he s alive. Not sure if this comes from town or scum mindset. #124 - I know he likes to claim early and in this instance rather than just straight up do it (which I half expected) he asks for our thoughts and says he wants to mass claim. I have brought up the possibility of a negative reduction to this but he doesn't seems to care as he hasn't responded to it. #136 - I find it hypocritical to talk to someone else about their vote when he hasn't placed one of his own. Also it seems he's more suspicious of ironace for not voting or at least wants to get him going by voting him but he votes Shinichi in this same post? #137 - I don't think it's useless and on days that he cannot use his ability he can still use his Captain Role in the way being suggested. #143 - Explains to reiynii why he feels his plan is worth outing town roles. I don't agree but eh... #167 - This one is weird because they were both town that game? 1. lol k. He isn't very fond of Shin either tho, just an fyi. #113 True, I've only played closed set up games with him though, dunno how that goes with open set ups. I think he showed that he's wary of the possible risk in claiming in this game. I can't look into his mind though. #116 Huh? I don't see it. #124 See above #136 Grrr and I have history. He likes to grace me as traitor and treat me as such. I think the joking undertone is clear in that one lol. #137 Personal opinion... #143 Personal opinion. What he says in that post makes sense imo tho. I'd just not do mass claims myself since I've been at both sides of the mass claiming before (the losing and the winning one) and it's just not fun that way. But it is a way to win as well. #167 Uh, idk about that. idk what's always the deal with people suspecting grrr like that because I think after a while you kind of get a grasp about how he's playing. I mean yeah, maybe if you're not used to him you can get pretty wild ideas when reading his posts... there's not a lot I can agree with in this post, I don't have any read on him and I can't get where you're coming from, or Shin if he actually scum reads grrr. Hope that answers your question about what I think about him. I feel like I can see what you're saying about his approach to the whole mass claim idea given it's open setup and we're both not used to how he'd deal when this. |
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Jun 7, 2017 3:10 PM
#634
logic340 said: Coelestin said: we do have some good battles...Why do you feel I'm exaggerating when he says he didn't see your post but responded to it?logic340 said: you never like my votes :P What would be the fun if I liked all of them... I always like all of Penta's votes in like all games we're town together cause he's better at making them vocal than me, that's boring, I'm telling ya. You're way funnier to fite. No offense Penta, we can fite anytime as well even though I don't know how <3 Is it scummy or anti-townish? I don't see it be a tell, really. Feel free to pressure him anyways tho -shrugs- I'm actually just more questioning why you vote for him, cause I don't really see how you are gonna get info out of him. Which btw is interesting since I think I haven't seen you asking him questions since your vote. |
Jun 7, 2017 3:13 PM
#635
Jun 7, 2017 3:13 PM
#636
Unvote I'll come back tomorrow, few hours before phase change. |
Jun 7, 2017 3:14 PM
#637
logic340 said: PentaFlare said: I see that your man good with a paintbrush. I'm not generating reads I'm writing through then.logic340 said: PentaFlare said: I would beg to differ considering I put on more reads than anyone else this gamelogic340 said: PentaFlare said: And here I was thinking I tied up all the loose ends...how did you do effortlessly see through my nefarious plans? So, Sleipnirr has been my strongest townread for a good while now, but it was bugging how almost nobody seemed to be talking much about him except to criticize his vote. Since everyone, especially scum, regularly ignores me when I talk about townreads, I figured I should try a different approach to see if I could get other players to give other perspectives on Sleipnirr. I got perspectives from Coel and Karote, but most other people seem to be avoiding Sleipnirr like the plague. That said, there is one person I'm specific whose response bothered me, logic. Logic was the most vocal critic of Sleipnirr's vote, yet wouldn't touch on the subject when I was presenting it in the form of a train. It feels really strange to me, and since I've been getting a pretty evil tonal read from him this game, I'm going to move my vote there. Vote: logic340 This guy is actually evil. I'm not lying about my read this time. What exactly is it I didn't touch on? Tying up loose ends or not, the main problem is just your approach this game of drawing out reads then reacting rather than creating. Maybe you have, but this isn't quantity. You always defend with quantity. That's not what matters. Approach and motivation is. Your method of providing reads is scum motivated. Especially that one time you responded to me about my vote in Sleip by saying how you would instead be doing an ISO on the person you were actually voting. These are reads generated with ulterior motive. Either you are trying to influence someone else's view, or you are making an effort to make everyone see how productive you are being. You yourself say there is content driving the game so there's obviously so quality to the quantity of reads I'm putting out. All my votes have been on my own reads not piggybacking of the refs I'm getting from others? This tread feels forced but continue on. Relating to the content of your reads, I'm not getting the same kind of impression I am with Sleip's. I can follow Sleip's reads easily and see no sign of deception, but when I read stuff you have written, I don't get that clear impression. This is true of your reads both as town and as scum. The reads you are providing this game sound like the ones you gave in both Gakkou Gurashi and Easter Egg. Therefore, I'm forced to look at others things to determine your alignment. That's why I'm looking mostly at context. That's what I'm finding suspicious. |
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Jun 7, 2017 3:15 PM
#638
grrr said: you could just read the questions section...lol.You know this post is too long for me to read right? : D Logic I have tricky question for you: if I was mafia who would I kill first? I want to believe you'd let be live but the post count drops by half if I die ave bashes things more habitable for the mafia so it would be to your strategic advantage. |
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Jun 7, 2017 3:17 PM
#639
logic340 said: grrr said: you could just read the questions section...lol.You know this post is too long for me to read right? : D Logic I have tricky question for you: if I was mafia who would I kill first? I want to believe you'd let be live but the post count drops by half if I die ave bashes things more habitable for the mafia so it would be to your strategic advantage. If you die and I am not lynched next, town deserves to lose : D . |
Jun 7, 2017 3:22 PM
#640
PentaFlare said: fair enough, I can defiantly see where you're coming from. I'll try to be more transparent as I know I tend to have trouble articulating myself.logic340 said: PentaFlare said: logic340 said: PentaFlare said: I would beg to differ considering I put on more reads than anyone else this gamelogic340 said: PentaFlare said: And here I was thinking I tied up all the loose ends...how did you do effortlessly see through my nefarious plans? So, Sleipnirr has been my strongest townread for a good while now, but it was bugging how almost nobody seemed to be talking much about him except to criticize his vote. Since everyone, especially scum, regularly ignores me when I talk about townreads, I figured I should try a different approach to see if I could get other players to give other perspectives on Sleipnirr. I got perspectives from Coel and Karote, but most other people seem to be avoiding Sleipnirr like the plague. That said, there is one person I'm specific whose response bothered me, logic. Logic was the most vocal critic of Sleipnirr's vote, yet wouldn't touch on the subject when I was presenting it in the form of a train. It feels really strange to me, and since I've been getting a pretty evil tonal read from him this game, I'm going to move my vote there. Vote: logic340 This guy is actually evil. I'm not lying about my read this time. What exactly is it I didn't touch on? Tying up loose ends or not, the main problem is just your approach this game of drawing out reads then reacting rather than creating. Maybe you have, but this isn't quantity. You always defend with quantity. That's not what matters. Approach and motivation is. Your method of providing reads is scum motivated. Especially that one time you responded to me about my vote in Sleip by saying how you would instead be doing an ISO on the person you were actually voting. These are reads generated with ulterior motive. Either you are trying to influence someone else's view, or you are making an effort to make everyone see how productive you are being. You yourself say there is content driving the game so there's obviously so quality to the quantity of reads I'm putting out. All my votes have been on my own reads not piggybacking of the refs I'm getting from others? This tread feels forced but continue on. Relating to the content of your reads, I'm not getting the same kind of impression I am with Sleip's. I can follow Sleip's reads easily and see no sign of deception, but when I read stuff you have written, I don't get that clear impression. This is true of your reads both as town and as scum. The reads you are providing this game sound like the ones you gave in both Gakkou Gurashi and Easter Egg. Therefore, I'm forced to look at others things to determine your alignment. That's why I'm looking mostly at context. That's what I'm finding suspicious. |
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Jun 7, 2017 3:23 PM
#641
Coelestin said: What would be the fun if I liked all of them... I always like all of Penta's votes in like all games we're town together cause he's better at making them vocal than me, that's boring, I'm telling ya. You're way funnier to fite. No offense Penta, we can fite anytime as well even though I don't know how <3 How could I complain about you liking everything about me? <3 |
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Jun 7, 2017 3:25 PM
#642
grrr said: It seems most of the people are against mass claiming. Then I have new top offer. I will town read anyone who votes yes! Lets all pick 3 role and claim them. It is like win - win. I can't see anything that might go wrong with this! Claiming in open setups is a tool that should be used properly. People leading significant trains when we get close to deadline should definitely claim, but that's the only way I feel claims should be forced. |
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Jun 7, 2017 3:26 PM
#643
ironace said: ok so i have caught up with the disscussion so heres my answers to some of the questions i remember @coelestin I will not mind sheeping but you need to give atlest some convincing evidence to get my vote. And the reason why i say that shinichi is not neutral is because if he was then he would want to have some level of idea about sledge's role, but he doesnt, which isnt very beneficial to either the town or the 3rd party. Im siding with the fact that he's a mafia for now but i will not vote him for now. Ive actually forgotten why i was suspicious of grrr, he hasent talked after the begining of D1 and so i havent managed to get a better grasp of his character. As i said before my reasons were partly based on a gut feeling and that was the case with pentaflare. And for the moment of truth, the one you all have been waiting for, the person im voting for will be millitus. THIS IS NOT BECAUSE HE COPIED ME OK??!! well he appears to act too sinister and omnious, but his level is one which i believe will be avoided by the mafia. I dont think he is a townie either-if he is, hes trying to act as a shady man.I think he is neutral.I am voting for him because i see the roles of the 3rd party to be the most annoying ones to deal with. If you guys have some thoughts to share on why i could be wrong im willing to listen. But for now, vote:Millitus BTW, im soo popular right now ...hehehe. This is bad. Mhm, I see. About Shin... I'm telling you, I'm not really interested in knowing about the sledge role at the moment either, but I doubt that you'd actually question me a lot for that, let alone scum reading me for that. Which post by him do you mean exactly? I think you should ask him about why he's not interested in the sledge if you haven't done so already. He might get into trouble if he can't back up what he said. If you think that Militus neutral... don't you think we should focus on the mafia first? There's a higher chance of catching mafia than catching the serial killer. Now, let's see what other think about your post. @wen294 |
Jun 7, 2017 3:29 PM
#644
Anonymous: Nobody listened to my suggestion........ |
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Jun 7, 2017 3:31 PM
#645
Jun 7, 2017 3:34 PM
#646
logic340 said: I kind if feel like since people expect these things from grrr that sometimes they get brushed off. That being said I've moved my vote as I'm not currently sold on scum grrr. I thunk this is my 7th have with him 1 as scum. He won that scum game because we gave him a pass for being grrr. Looking into him is never a bad idea and I really wish more would at least try. I feel like I can see what you're saying about his approach to the whole mass claim idea given it's open setup and we're both not used to how he'd deal when this. Well yeah that first point, tru tru. Yeh, your read on grrr just seemed forced, that's all. |
Jun 7, 2017 3:37 PM
#647
Jun 7, 2017 3:38 PM
#648
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Jun 7, 2017 3:38 PM
#649
Jun 7, 2017 3:39 PM
#650
Shinichi-Kun said: you know it's my fault so it's really like 3.5 ,if you skip my posts :Pi hate u all time to catch up to 7 pages. |
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