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May 18, 2017 11:51 AM
#901
WyNdZ said: I believe she said earlier that she could do it in a pm or the thread. Though both would be great to ensure that it happens.Oyasumi_Rosie said: And what about the points I made? RE's plan is way more scum than town, esp the way it would play out. RE's plan could be assumed as being town or as a way to trick us into believe she's town. It's something worth thinking about. I'm curious why do you care who is scum or town if you claim to be the third party. RE1031 said: Would like to activate my ability this phase, thanks I think you have to send a pm WyNdZ said: I drink plenty of coffee. Hazelnut mostly these days.logic340 said: Inviting someone to tea is how it's been called in prior games but I am more of a coffee person myself so that works fine. FYI I may not come across that way but I am a old person....lol. The benefits I see are if at of you are scum it puts me I close proximity to you in order to make a better read. Vise versa for you guys with me. People don't grow old, people become old when they stop drinking coffee. That's how I feel as well. I don't see much benefit to it, at least between you and me. Whatever can be said in the secret chat can be said here. Not really sure what close proximity is going to do. It would be better if everyone could see the interactions and give their own opinions. The different playstyles of Zymf and you might be beneficial although he's been quite inactive. I've never played with Wen before but I didn't feel like he was bussing Abu. Well I'm going to keep it to myself when I do finally decide. We can't always see the benefit right away, so hopefully there's something we're not thinking of. I can share what my neighbour and I say in the chats in the thread. I'm not a huge fan of secrets so after we talked I'll share the conversion. |
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May 18, 2017 11:53 AM
#902
Oyasumi_Rosie said: Shinichi-Kun said: Why? Now that scum knows that I have no ability to hit scum. You have sucesfful neutered. I am completely useless as a player now. You have already took every thing from me. Why can I die?Oyasumi_Rosie said: Shinichi-Kun said: Fine. The I will keep saying. Every hour, on the hour till one of the replies.Oyasumi_Rosie said: Shinichi-Kun said: People want info right?? Lets pester the mod! Get the to change the day. The you will get more info to talk aboutlogic340 said: Shinichi-Kun said: regardless I still think it's worth talking about. Is there anyone else other than Zymf you exempt?RE1031 said: wen294 said: Can't we just make all the people in the PoE pile vote for Rosie, and then rosie can just kill whoever from that pile? I did think about this lol but it seems a bit cruel. Plus I doubt they would consent. Town knowing they themselves are town wouldn't do it, and mafia wouldn't do it either cause they are scum. SAdly u are right I dont wanna specfically pick anyone because i want people to make the wrong or right choice themselves its the best way to catch a slip. no i wont say it again Oyasumi_Rosie said: RE1031 said: Read between the lines. I'm not scum and the bomb can't go off today. THat is one of the many reason I was asking to be killed yesterday, and hoping I would get killed last nightOyasumi_Rosie said: Shinichi-Kun said: It doesn't matter if you believe my plan, now that RE has failed i can say with 200% that it won't work and it doesn't matterOyasumi_Rosie said: Shinichi-Kun said: They posted "My plan fails if Rosie is not scum."Oyasumi_Rosie said: RE1031 said: what else would you call "Hurdurdur, i've got a super secret plan that i already said would fail if Rosie isn't mafia which is has stated at lest three times today, hurdur"Oyasumi_Rosie said: @Togs If everyone votes for me, there is no point in keeping the game going. If everyone votes for me I will vote for myself, please end the phase then. We don't even lose that much time since we can talk during the night. And honestly Re's smug bullshit is getting on my nerves. I'm not being smug wtf? No one acn know his plan has failed its literally impossible why because he hasnt posted his plan lol. But your talking under the assumption we all beive your claim lol Not sure what you mean, did you read my plan? It can happen still. Unless people are actually willing to throw themselves under the bus because they are getting scum-read slightly more than others. So your implying you choose odd phases? I am not implying anything. Doesnt matter what you say they wont end the phase early just cause you say so lol, and ok even if the ur ability isnt active today ur still tpr which doesnt change much. Only difference it could make is the off chance we decide to wait till an odd number to lynch to you which i both want to wait and don't >3> So what ur saying is your only as good as your ability? |
May 18, 2017 11:53 AM
#903
π« Vote Count 2.4 π« π₯ π₯ Oyasumi_Rosie π₯ π₯ (8): π° logic340, WyNdZ, wen294, Shinichi-kun, melanoid, Oyasumi_Rosie, π RE1031 π π° π£ RE1031 π£ (1): π° Ruu π° π± Not Voting π± Crossbell, Zymf π€ Role Index π€ Camoflagued Egg [Watcher] - Crossbell Fullmetal Egg [Jailer] - Zymf Golden Egg [Lightning Rod] - AbuHumaid Explosive Egg [Bomb] - Oyasumi_Rosie Occult Egg [Peeker] - Wyndz Duckling Egg [Neighborizerr] - Logic340 Sparkling Egg [Reloader] - Yurkin Royal Egg [Doublevoter] - Re1031 Spooky Egg [Amnesiac] - Shinichi-kun Decorative Egg [Artist] - wen294 Oeuf Suprême [Chef] - melanoid Green Egg and Ham [Egg Thrower] - Ruu >>Day 2 Timer<< |
May 18, 2017 11:54 AM
#904
Oyasumi_Rosie said: Shinichi-Kun said: I forgot the word plan.Oyasumi_Rosie said: Shinichi-Kun said: What? You like to go back on your word? THis is the post right after the one where you state that you won't say it again, where you are in fact, saying it again.Oyasumi_Rosie said: Shinichi-Kun said: No, what is the point? What is any good reas to continue this day when there is nothing to learn from it?Oyasumi_Rosie said: @Jackrito @Togs This day isn't worth playing out at this point. With night talk people have plenty of time to talk and work out their plans. Please end the phase as soon as you can. Absolutely not Information we still have 27 hours i will not allow the phase to end sooner, also it has to be voted vy everyone not the person being lynched. With Re stupid full out for everyone to see, and the fact I could say oxygen helps you live and no one would believe, no one is going to switch their votes to me, making this impossible to end. How is she stupid? We have no idea if u choose even or odd, and all we have to off of is your word right now. It's not fair for us to have to assume that you choose odds. Her plan is stupid, because 1)I. AM. NOT. SCUM. 2) I. CAN'T. EXPLODE. 3)NOW THAT THIS INFO IS OUT THERE, SCUM KNOWS WHEN TO KILL ME. I am not saying that she should have known, I am saying now that all the info about how its going to fail is out ther, despite me telling you at least 5 times now that it was going to fail anyways, its SUPER DUPER going to fail. Thats if we believe you tho about choosing odd phases lol |
May 18, 2017 11:56 AM
#905
Oyasumi_Rosie said: logic340 said: the thing is my vote is on Rosie and I've focused on many other players and topics this phase. I put hard pressure on Melanoid and have been calling out Crossbell and you to a extent. Also you not being concerned with her train is what bothers me, moving your vote makes it look like your distancing yourself I'm not the only one who has said it. It seems you fear retribution? There are too many people on my train to for there not to be scum. Like I said in my Wen post, when I flip the scum can be like "Well, I did whatever else did." Another reason to hate RE's plan is that it lets scum off the hook. How does it let scum off the hook? Depending on how they react to his plan it could etermine their alignment. For example regardless of Re plan im sitll voting you because of my distate for tpr and there hindrance to town. |
May 18, 2017 12:06 PM
#906
Ruu said: logic340 said: Ruu said: @logic340 Rosie is getting lynch no matter what I do. I don't care about her train because I would like to focus on other players as well. Like I said a million times. @Crossbell I wasn't here when the Abu train started. MY GRANDPA DIED PEOPLE, OFC I WAS NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO THE THREAD! I hadn't even had the time to consider Abu as a possible scum. I still think Rosie is either scum or tpr (more tpr now that she is voting for herself). What's the point on focusing only on her? that lynch is set, shouldn't we worry now about the other possible partner? is not like Rosie dies we win. We still need to find the last mafia. Can we focus on that please? I already gave my possible suspects and I'm voting for one of them. Tunneling is not the way to go, we need to keep searching. ofc I fear retribution. I don't want to get killed by her -_- I'm not 100% focus on this game that's why I haven't been super active. Give me a break -_- I believe Mel is town because scum wouldn't vote for a teammate if they know they won't be here to unvote if necessary. She would only kill you if she thought u were scum and she already claimed her ability wont work this phase so why arent u voting her? |
May 18, 2017 12:10 PM
#907
Ruu said: WyNdZ said: RE1031 said: Sorry for the delay, went from packing all day to driving all night, not fun. Anyway, about my plan, seeing as it ticked more than a couple people off, I won't joke about it. Because my role is the double voter, and Rosie only needs 2 votes for a lynch, I'm going to offer to use my active and vote for her today. I'm getting scum read by at least two people, and it'd be a waste for someone with a much better townie rep to be killed (and flip town). I had this plan since N1, and I was quite worried I'd be killed because my role is dangerous for scum. If the top two lynch trains are scum and me, I can vote scum simply to save myself. This plan does work - like you technically can't stop me because if I use my active, you'd be risking getting killed by the bomb for nothing. It's just that if Rosie is mafia, it works better because then we know town was always going to get killed, and then the votes can be more easily read. If she's TPR, then there'd actually be a chance of mafia dying, and votes will be harder to read. And of course, the reason I had to wait is because if I offered this plan from the start, there'd be nothing to go off on when it comes to who's willing to vote Rosie and who's not, since we'll all just default to the plan. There are a couple issues with my plan, but all of them are trust-issues. Also, the only reason I'm telling you instead of doing it is just in case I missed something and it doesn't work before I waste my only shot. Hmmm that's an interesting plan. I feel like if Rosie is indeed TPR and not mafia we might have been able to get some information by seeing who was reluctant to vote on her. Like you said you've already waited for some time to get such information and well I feel like the mafia would know it would bring suspicion on them if they didn't vote so probably everyone would vote on Rosie. I don't really like when someone is sacrificed but if everyone agrees then i guess we can follow through with your plan. We're going to have to keep our faith that nobody is going to do a last minute vote or anything though. Unlikely but lol it wouldn't be the first time I've seen something crazy happen in a mafia game before. We also negate the possibility of Rosie being able to kill a mafia. She seems pissed at the town though so I think she would probably try to kill someone who she thinks is town. Anyways I feel like Rosie probably chose odd days so if we do go through with this plan hopefully you survive. Fear of getting killed by Rosie = mafia smh nobody wants to die no matter their alignment. not true at all |
May 18, 2017 12:11 PM
#908
logic340 said: If Rosie is telling the truth we have options. She could also be lying to get as many people on the train to choose from as well? If she's telling the truth we can lynch her today with no fear of losing a townie but we lose the slight benefit of possibly hitting a scum. We could put it off until tomorrow but there's no guarantee we hit scum today and we still run the risk of her hitting town tomorrow anyway. We could also enact RE's plan tomorrow but I don't see a reason to wait. The best I can hope for is she's lying about being mafia and telling the truth about her bomb day. Then we lynch her today and she doesn't blow up anyone. Im fine with either one but i dont think ill be changing my vote. |
May 18, 2017 12:12 PM
#909
Togs said: π RE1031 π A ray of sunshine in my cloudy day c: |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
May 18, 2017 12:37 PM
#910
that is a crown. |
May 18, 2017 1:11 PM
#911
Shinichi-Kun said: Ruu said: logic340 said: Ruu said: the thing is my vote is on Rosie and I've focused on many other players and topics this phase. I put hard pressure on Melanoid and have been calling out Crossbell and you to a extent. Also you not being concerned with her train is what bothers me, moving your vote makes it look like your distancing yourself I'm not the only one who has said it. It seems you fear retribution?@logic340 Rosie is getting lynch no matter what I do. I don't care about her train because I would like to focus on other players as well. Like I said a million times. @Crossbell I wasn't here when the Abu train started. MY GRANDPA DIED PEOPLE, OFC I WAS NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO THE THREAD! I hadn't even had the time to consider Abu as a possible scum. I still think Rosie is either scum or tpr (more tpr now that she is voting for herself). What's the point on focusing only on her? that lynch is set, shouldn't we worry now about the other possible partner? is not like Rosie dies we win. We still need to find the last mafia. Can we focus on that please? I already gave my possible suspects and I'm voting for one of them. Tunneling is not the way to go, we need to keep searching. ofc I fear retribution. I don't want to get killed by her -_- I'm not 100% focus on this game that's why I haven't been super active. Give me a break -_- I believe Mel is town because scum wouldn't vote for a teammate if they know they won't be here to unvote if necessary. She would only kill you if she thought u were scum and she already claimed her ability wont work this phase so why arent u voting her? because she might be lying to make scum/town join her train -_- |
May 18, 2017 1:11 PM
#912
wen294 said: logic340 said: What i meant is that i think Rosie lied about her role, and that her actual role is executioner. Claiming executioner is like the worst TPR you could claim. It feels like she decided to pick something slightly less dangerous for town. Then again that's just my gut feeling, she might've been telling the truth too.wen294 said: logic340 said: The frustration of nobody listening to you is real irregardless of your alignment. My personal bet is on her being an excecutioner but there's still a possibility for her to be scum.RE1031 said: Honestly after my interaction with Rosie this morning I'm more inclined to believe she is TPR. If that emotion was faked she's a better scum than I give her credit for. That being said she's still got to go. logic340 said: Shinichi-Kun said: So RE pretty much dismissed it with her post #685 but I'd like you to show me where I am? I even asked her to help us hunt down the final two scum and take one of them with her?logic340 said: Shinichi-Kun said: who has accepted it? She's got 5 votes on her right now. You and RE have both been on and aren't voting for her?Also i find the chances of the bomb role being the tpr so bs, its so easy for scum to hide behind this its not even funny. Are you all sriously ok with just accepting that shes tpr? Seems like only u and rei are dismmissing its possibility , the votes don't answer questions words do XD. I mean she could still be TPR but I don't think that's her wincon. Also, yes, I'm starting to get those kinds of vibes from Crossbell. Voting for Abu could just be this game's version of coming down on grrr. Also, he confessed that he visited Zymf last night, but I don't know why he'd do that when Zymf made a big deal of jailing Crossbell? Don't know why Ruu's voting for me. That lynch is never gonna go through, and she isn't a stubborn player like me. Seems like an attempt to get off the train. If she's scum who do you think her partner is? If she's TPR we should still have 2 scum to catch? Who do you think they might be? wen294 said: logic340 said: I feel DenjaX, wen and Zymf are a few players who would I feel would get the full potential and benefit greatly from this type of role. I'm not really good at convincing people of anything. Strategy in who to neighbourize will only get you so far. Pause and approach...? WHat makes u come to this conclusion? |
May 18, 2017 1:12 PM
#913
Shinichi-Kun said: Ruu said: WyNdZ said: RE1031 said: Sorry for the delay, went from packing all day to driving all night, not fun. Anyway, about my plan, seeing as it ticked more than a couple people off, I won't joke about it. Because my role is the double voter, and Rosie only needs 2 votes for a lynch, I'm going to offer to use my active and vote for her today. I'm getting scum read by at least two people, and it'd be a waste for someone with a much better townie rep to be killed (and flip town). I had this plan since N1, and I was quite worried I'd be killed because my role is dangerous for scum. If the top two lynch trains are scum and me, I can vote scum simply to save myself. This plan does work - like you technically can't stop me because if I use my active, you'd be risking getting killed by the bomb for nothing. It's just that if Rosie is mafia, it works better because then we know town was always going to get killed, and then the votes can be more easily read. If she's TPR, then there'd actually be a chance of mafia dying, and votes will be harder to read. And of course, the reason I had to wait is because if I offered this plan from the start, there'd be nothing to go off on when it comes to who's willing to vote Rosie and who's not, since we'll all just default to the plan. There are a couple issues with my plan, but all of them are trust-issues. Also, the only reason I'm telling you instead of doing it is just in case I missed something and it doesn't work before I waste my only shot. Hmmm that's an interesting plan. I feel like if Rosie is indeed TPR and not mafia we might have been able to get some information by seeing who was reluctant to vote on her. Like you said you've already waited for some time to get such information and well I feel like the mafia would know it would bring suspicion on them if they didn't vote so probably everyone would vote on Rosie. I don't really like when someone is sacrificed but if everyone agrees then i guess we can follow through with your plan. We're going to have to keep our faith that nobody is going to do a last minute vote or anything though. Unlikely but lol it wouldn't be the first time I've seen something crazy happen in a mafia game before. We also negate the possibility of Rosie being able to kill a mafia. She seems pissed at the town though so I think she would probably try to kill someone who she thinks is town. Anyways I feel like Rosie probably chose odd days so if we do go through with this plan hopefully you survive. Fear of getting killed by Rosie = mafia smh nobody wants to die no matter their alignment. not true at all how is this not true? lmao If you die you can't play anymore so the fun is over who would be okay with that? |
May 18, 2017 1:13 PM
#914
Oyasumi_Rosie said: RE1031 said: Oyasumi_Rosie said: RE1031 said: Actually.... I think they would. At least they would state their plan and except people not to go through with it. You know I normally use RNG for these kinds of things, so if you were scum you could have taken a change that there were too many people/Wen was still on my train.@Ruu You suspect me, yet you've clearly read Rosie's post about my plan being stupid. Stupid or not, do you think scum would do that? @Ruu So is it a stupid plan or not :P If I'm scum, it's brilliant, no? All scum plans are stupid to everyone who isn't scum. But here is the paradox. If you town, you have stupid useless plan, and you made a strong player who was willling to work with you useless as well, you have made wincon for town that much harder. If you are scum, by having this convo with me, you have made yourself way more suspicious, and once my flip comes, people will start looking in to this, making it way harder for you to cover up. You have made wincon for scum that much harder. WHy would we look into her? Regardless ur still tpr, doesnt matter if u get lynched with or without her plan. If shes the sole person on her train when u get lynched shes def town. |
May 18, 2017 1:15 PM
#915
Oyasumi_Rosie said: RE1031 said: Fine, help me get the mods to end this game.Oyasumi_Rosie said: RE1031 said: Zymf already moved his vote because he was "scared" so yeah I would consider stuff like that working with you. You made the wincon for town that much harder by weakening a weapon that they could have used.Oyasumi_Rosie said: RE1031 said: Oyasumi_Rosie said: RE1031 said: Actually.... I think they would. At least they would state their plan and except people not to go through with it. You know I normally use RNG for these kinds of things, so if you were scum you could have taken a change that there were too many people/Wen was still on my train.@Ruu You suspect me, yet you've clearly read Rosie's post about my plan being stupid. Stupid or not, do you think scum would do that? @Ruu So is it a stupid plan or not :P If I'm scum, it's brilliant, no? All scum plans are stupid to everyone who isn't scum. But here is the paradox. If you town, you have stupid useless plan, and you made a strong player who was willling to work with you useless as well, you have made wincon for town that much harder. If you are scum, by having this convo with me, you have made yourself way more suspicious, and once my flip comes, people will start looking in to this, making it way harder for you to cover up. You have made wincon for scum that much harder. I don't understand the first part, who was willing to work with me? And as for the second part, good thing I'm not actually scum. But anyway, didn't you say you wanted town to lose? Or was that directed at me. And I am not sure what you mean? I was always talking to you in that post? So any statement that has 'you' in it is refering to you. What is your point bring that up? I have been very clear about how I feel about this town and if they should win or not. What about you? The only sort of benefit from you plan now is that town is weaker? So do you want town to lose? Because that is really the only benefit I see. You know what? Don't care. Pretty much done with this game. I'd rather get you lynched first and then take the fall tomorrow since this game's been nothing to me but trash talk from you. I tried :/ @Togs @JackRito See, look at this. I am not the only one who hate this Day. Please let this phase end! ENOUGH the phase will not end early understand? Why are u being an ass to Re she hasnt even once said anything offensive towards you so i dont understand why ur constantly atttacking her. |
May 18, 2017 1:16 PM
#916
Oyasumi_Rosie said: logic340 said: Bro I leave for class in 20 minutes, you won't see me for nine hours after this. @Oyasumi_Rosie and @RE1031 you two should take a break for a few. Or at least focus on other people and topics. Give your irritation and frustration with one another some time to cool down because neither of you is getting anywhere with this right now. I'm going to take a little break from posting I'll be checking in from mobile. I shouldn't have to suffer alone. And what about the points I made? RE's plan is way more scum than town, esp the way it would play out. How she wants to sacrifice just her life to get rid ofyou? |
May 18, 2017 1:16 PM
#917
logic340 said: Can you answer my question about scum!Ruu talking about yurkin on Night 1 then NKing her? It seems like suboptimal play for scum!Ruu to make.Based of my current reads and what I can make of this vote count I'd say You, Shinichi, Ruu, or Mela (to a lesser extent since our interaction) You could throw RE in there too but I have a town on right now. So you, Ruu, Shinichi would be where I would look. And I don't really think that scum!melanoid votes AbuHumaid due to inactivity and doesn't change her vote. logic340 said: I already addressed this.@Crossbell - I'll look over your reads tomorrow and other posts tomorrow. I went to know how I wet form looking off to your strongest tow read though? wen said: In the scum chat, I mean.Dead... chat? Peculiar mistake to make. |
May 18, 2017 1:16 PM
#918
Ruu said: Shinichi-Kun said: Ruu said: logic340 said: Ruu said: the thing is my vote is on Rosie and I've focused on many other players and topics this phase. I put hard pressure on Melanoid and have been calling out Crossbell and you to a extent. Also you not being concerned with her train is what bothers me, moving your vote makes it look like your distancing yourself I'm not the only one who has said it. It seems you fear retribution?@logic340 Rosie is getting lynch no matter what I do. I don't care about her train because I would like to focus on other players as well. Like I said a million times. @Crossbell I wasn't here when the Abu train started. MY GRANDPA DIED PEOPLE, OFC I WAS NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO THE THREAD! I hadn't even had the time to consider Abu as a possible scum. I still think Rosie is either scum or tpr (more tpr now that she is voting for herself). What's the point on focusing only on her? that lynch is set, shouldn't we worry now about the other possible partner? is not like Rosie dies we win. We still need to find the last mafia. Can we focus on that please? I already gave my possible suspects and I'm voting for one of them. Tunneling is not the way to go, we need to keep searching. ofc I fear retribution. I don't want to get killed by her -_- I'm not 100% focus on this game that's why I haven't been super active. Give me a break -_- I believe Mel is town because scum wouldn't vote for a teammate if they know they won't be here to unvote if necessary. She would only kill you if she thought u were scum and she already claimed her ability wont work this phase so why arent u voting her? because she might be lying to make scum/town join her train -_- So what are u afraid of then? |
May 18, 2017 1:17 PM
#919
RE1031 said: Ruu said: RE1031 said: Oyasumi_Rosie said: RE1031 said: Actually.... I think they would. At least they would state their plan and except people not to go through with it. You know I normally use RNG for these kinds of things, so if you were scum you could have taken a change that there were too many people/Wen was still on my train.@Ruu You suspect me, yet you've clearly read Rosie's post about my plan being stupid. Stupid or not, do you think scum would do that? @Ruu So is it a stupid plan or not :P If I'm scum, it's brilliant, no? only if you actually get the town cred but I'm not buying it I guess now I know how Rosie feels, not getting believed. Oh well. It's not like I town read you anymore anyway. She doesn't believe me = she must be scum flawless thinking smh |
May 18, 2017 1:19 PM
#920
Shinichi-Kun said: wen294 said: logic340 said: wen294 said: I guess you're right there about the frustration coming from any alignment. Executioner is kind of like your role in Disgaea but Rosie has to pick/guess the person? logic340 said: The frustration of nobody listening to you is real irregardless of your alignment. My personal bet is on her being an excecutioner but there's still a possibility for her to be scum.RE1031 said: Honestly after my interaction with Rosie this morning I'm more inclined to believe she is TPR. If that emotion was faked she's a better scum than I give her credit for. That being said she's still got to go. logic340 said: Shinichi-Kun said: So RE pretty much dismissed it with her post #685 but I'd like you to show me where I am? I even asked her to help us hunt down the final two scum and take one of them with her?logic340 said: Shinichi-Kun said: who has accepted it? She's got 5 votes on her right now. You and RE have both been on and aren't voting for her?Also i find the chances of the bomb role being the tpr so bs, its so easy for scum to hide behind this its not even funny. Are you all sriously ok with just accepting that shes tpr? Seems like only u and rei are dismmissing its possibility , the votes don't answer questions words do XD. I mean she could still be TPR but I don't think that's her wincon. Also, yes, I'm starting to get those kinds of vibes from Crossbell. Voting for Abu could just be this game's version of coming down on grrr. Also, he confessed that he visited Zymf last night, but I don't know why he'd do that when Zymf made a big deal of jailing Crossbell? Don't know why Ruu's voting for me. That lynch is never gonna go through, and she isn't a stubborn player like me. Seems like an attempt to get off the train. If she's scum who do you think her partner is? If she's TPR we should still have 2 scum to catch? Who do you think they might be? wen294 said: to me it's about your pause and approach to mafia that makes me feel that way. I know it will only take me so far but I'm hoping to get some use out if it nonethelesslogic340 said: I feel DenjaX, wen and Zymf are a few players who would I feel would get the full potential and benefit greatly from this type of role. I'm not really good at convincing people of anything. Strategy in who to neighbourize will only get you so far. Pause and approach...? WHat makes u come to this conclusion? That's how it came across to me. Like she thought something up to come across as slightly less anti-town. Because executioner is anti-town any way you put it. But guessing a kill isn't as much. Then she said something about trying to kill Mela to make her prediction come true, so that's basically hunting somebody similar to a executioner does. Then she proceeded to say that she didn't submit her prediction. I mean c'mon that's as 100% against your own win-con as it comes if she was telling the truth. Above that there's legit no reason not to submit at least something, even if it's bogus or you don't believe in it. Yet she said she didn't which leads me to think that she didn't tell the truth about her role, and that she doesn't need to send something like that in at all. Then if you combine that with her behaviour i can only really think of an executioner. There aren't all that many other options tbh. I doubt it's a serial killer or arsonist and anything slightly more pro-town like survivor and she would've claimed that. |
May 18, 2017 1:20 PM
#921
WyNdZ said: Shinichi-Kun said: Ruu said: logic340 said: Ruu said: the thing is my vote is on Rosie and I've focused on many other players and topics this phase. I put hard pressure on Melanoid and have been calling out Crossbell and you to a extent. Also you not being concerned with her train is what bothers me, moving your vote makes it look like your distancing yourself I'm not the only one who has said it. It seems you fear retribution?@logic340 Rosie is getting lynch no matter what I do. I don't care about her train because I would like to focus on other players as well. Like I said a million times. @Crossbell I wasn't here when the Abu train started. MY GRANDPA DIED PEOPLE, OFC I WAS NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO THE THREAD! I hadn't even had the time to consider Abu as a possible scum. I still think Rosie is either scum or tpr (more tpr now that she is voting for herself). What's the point on focusing only on her? that lynch is set, shouldn't we worry now about the other possible partner? is not like Rosie dies we win. We still need to find the last mafia. Can we focus on that please? I already gave my possible suspects and I'm voting for one of them. Tunneling is not the way to go, we need to keep searching. ofc I fear retribution. I don't want to get killed by her -_- I'm not 100% focus on this game that's why I haven't been super active. Give me a break -_- I believe Mel is town because scum wouldn't vote for a teammate if they know they won't be here to unvote if necessary. She would only kill you if she thought u were scum and she already claimed her ability wont work this phase so why arent u voting her? Wait am I missing something? Why would Rosie only kill someone if she thought they were scum? Welll thats what i thought then i saw her post about rnging the kill so now we are just better off lynching her this phase. |
May 18, 2017 1:20 PM
#922
RE1031 said: This post is actually making me reconsider my read on RE, because I don't think she offers to use up her double vote as scum. I feel like as scum she'd try to save the double vote for a more opportune time, especially when one of her teammates was downed Day 1.Because my role is the double voter, and Rosie only needs 2 votes for a lynch, I'm going to offer to use my active and vote for her today. I'm getting scum read by at least two people, and it'd be a waste for someone with a much better townie rep to be killed (and flip town). I had this plan since N1, and I was quite worried I'd be killed because my role is dangerous for scum. If the top two lynch trains are scum and me, I can vote scum simply to save myself. This plan does work - like you technically can't stop me because if I use my active, you'd be risking getting killed by the bomb for nothing. It's just that if Rosie is mafia, it works better because then we know town was always going to get killed, and then the votes can be more easily read. If she's TPR, then there'd actually be a chance of mafia dying, and votes will be harder to read. And of course, the reason I had to wait is because if I offered this plan from the start, there'd be nothing to go off on when it comes to who's willing to vote Rosie and who's not, since we'll all just default to the plan. There are a couple issues with my plan, but all of them are trust-issues. Also, the only reason I'm telling you instead of doing it is just in case I missed something and it doesn't work before I waste my only shot. RE said: Also, he confessed that he visited Zymf last night, but I don't know why he'd do that when Zymf made a big deal of jailing Crossbell? I read this post: Zymf said: I didn't read anything over the night phase when Zymf said that he would target me, because I was on a plane at the time IIRC.I think my guardian angel is watching over me tonight, so I won't get killed by the mafia (hint: Watcher). |
May 18, 2017 1:21 PM
#923
Ruu said: Shinichi-Kun said: Ruu said: WyNdZ said: RE1031 said: Sorry for the delay, went from packing all day to driving all night, not fun. Anyway, about my plan, seeing as it ticked more than a couple people off, I won't joke about it. Because my role is the double voter, and Rosie only needs 2 votes for a lynch, I'm going to offer to use my active and vote for her today. I'm getting scum read by at least two people, and it'd be a waste for someone with a much better townie rep to be killed (and flip town). I had this plan since N1, and I was quite worried I'd be killed because my role is dangerous for scum. If the top two lynch trains are scum and me, I can vote scum simply to save myself. This plan does work - like you technically can't stop me because if I use my active, you'd be risking getting killed by the bomb for nothing. It's just that if Rosie is mafia, it works better because then we know town was always going to get killed, and then the votes can be more easily read. If she's TPR, then there'd actually be a chance of mafia dying, and votes will be harder to read. And of course, the reason I had to wait is because if I offered this plan from the start, there'd be nothing to go off on when it comes to who's willing to vote Rosie and who's not, since we'll all just default to the plan. There are a couple issues with my plan, but all of them are trust-issues. Also, the only reason I'm telling you instead of doing it is just in case I missed something and it doesn't work before I waste my only shot. Hmmm that's an interesting plan. I feel like if Rosie is indeed TPR and not mafia we might have been able to get some information by seeing who was reluctant to vote on her. Like you said you've already waited for some time to get such information and well I feel like the mafia would know it would bring suspicion on them if they didn't vote so probably everyone would vote on Rosie. I don't really like when someone is sacrificed but if everyone agrees then i guess we can follow through with your plan. We're going to have to keep our faith that nobody is going to do a last minute vote or anything though. Unlikely but lol it wouldn't be the first time I've seen something crazy happen in a mafia game before. We also negate the possibility of Rosie being able to kill a mafia. She seems pissed at the town though so I think she would probably try to kill someone who she thinks is town. Anyways I feel like Rosie probably chose odd days so if we do go through with this plan hopefully you survive. Fear of getting killed by Rosie = mafia smh nobody wants to die no matter their alignment. not true at all how is this not true? lmao If you die you can't play anymore so the fun is over who would be okay with that? No shit ruu lol, but your ok that letting her live because ur afraid of that small chance u will be her target? |
May 18, 2017 1:23 PM
#924
Ruu said: Yeah, I agree that we should find the other remaining members of the mafia. I was just narrowing the gamestate down in my head because IMO we got a lot of clears off of the AbuHumaid wagon and I've been trying to use those in order to solve the game.@Crossbell I wasn't here when the Abu train started. MY GRANDPA DIED PEOPLE, OFC I WAS NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO THE THREAD! I hadn't even had the time to consider Abu as a possible scum. I still think Rosie is either scum or tpr (more tpr now that she is voting for herself). What's the point on focusing only on her? that lynch is set, shouldn't we worry now about the other possible partner? is not like Rosie dies we win. We still need to find the last mafia. Can we focus on that please? |
May 18, 2017 1:25 PM
#925
Ruu said: You wouldn't recognize flawless thinking when you're looking at it, clearly. I mean any way you look at it that makes perfect sense right?RE1031 said: Ruu said: RE1031 said: Oyasumi_Rosie said: RE1031 said: Actually.... I think they would. At least they would state their plan and except people not to go through with it. You know I normally use RNG for these kinds of things, so if you were scum you could have taken a change that there were too many people/Wen was still on my train.@Ruu You suspect me, yet you've clearly read Rosie's post about my plan being stupid. Stupid or not, do you think scum would do that? @Ruu So is it a stupid plan or not :P If I'm scum, it's brilliant, no? only if you actually get the town cred but I'm not buying it I guess now I know how Rosie feels, not getting believed. Oh well. It's not like I town read you anymore anyway. She doesn't believe me = she must be scum flawless thinking smh (sorry for the exessive sarcasm, couldn't help myself) |
May 18, 2017 1:30 PM
#926
wen294 said: Shinichi-Kun said: wen294 said: logic340 said: What i meant is that i think Rosie lied about her role, and that her actual role is executioner. Claiming executioner is like the worst TPR you could claim. It feels like she decided to pick something slightly less dangerous for town. Then again that's just my gut feeling, she might've been telling the truth too.wen294 said: I guess you're right there about the frustration coming from any alignment. Executioner is kind of like your role in Disgaea but Rosie has to pick/guess the person? logic340 said: The frustration of nobody listening to you is real irregardless of your alignment. My personal bet is on her being an excecutioner but there's still a possibility for her to be scum.RE1031 said: Honestly after my interaction with Rosie this morning I'm more inclined to believe she is TPR. If that emotion was faked she's a better scum than I give her credit for. That being said she's still got to go. logic340 said: Shinichi-Kun said: So RE pretty much dismissed it with her post #685 but I'd like you to show me where I am? I even asked her to help us hunt down the final two scum and take one of them with her?logic340 said: Shinichi-Kun said: who has accepted it? She's got 5 votes on her right now. You and RE have both been on and aren't voting for her?Also i find the chances of the bomb role being the tpr so bs, its so easy for scum to hide behind this its not even funny. Are you all sriously ok with just accepting that shes tpr? Seems like only u and rei are dismmissing its possibility , the votes don't answer questions words do XD. I mean she could still be TPR but I don't think that's her wincon. Also, yes, I'm starting to get those kinds of vibes from Crossbell. Voting for Abu could just be this game's version of coming down on grrr. Also, he confessed that he visited Zymf last night, but I don't know why he'd do that when Zymf made a big deal of jailing Crossbell? Don't know why Ruu's voting for me. That lynch is never gonna go through, and she isn't a stubborn player like me. Seems like an attempt to get off the train. If she's scum who do you think her partner is? If she's TPR we should still have 2 scum to catch? Who do you think they might be? wen294 said: to me it's about your pause and approach to mafia that makes me feel that way. I know it will only take me so far but I'm hoping to get some use out if it nonethelesslogic340 said: I feel DenjaX, wen and Zymf are a few players who would I feel would get the full potential and benefit greatly from this type of role. I'm not really good at convincing people of anything. Strategy in who to neighbourize will only get you so far. Pause and approach...? WHat makes u come to this conclusion? That's how it came across to me. Like she thought something up to come across as slightly less anti-town. Because executioner is anti-town any way you put it. But guessing a kill isn't as much. Then she said something about trying to kill Mela to make her prediction come true, so that's basically hunting somebody similar to a executioner does. Then she proceeded to say that she didn't submit her prediction. I mean c'mon that's as 100% against your own win-con as it comes if she was telling the truth. Above that there's legit no reason not to submit at least something, even if it's bogus or you don't believe in it. Yet she said she didn't which leads me to think that she didn't tell the truth about her role, and that she doesn't need to send something like that in at all. Then if you combine that with her behaviour i can only really think of an executioner. There aren't all that many other options tbh. I doubt it's a serial killer or arsonist and anything slightly more pro-town like survivor and she would've claimed that. So u think her target is Re1? Also i questioned that too literally no reasonnot to submit an action its practically going against ur win con haha. I mean shes still a bomb role its just it seems like she just has tpr type of win condition. |
May 18, 2017 1:31 PM
#927
So let's break this down. 1. We are lynching Rosie Today as a claimed neutral. She could either be neutral or mafia; either way, it is +EV to lynch her because we are already ahead and we should always lynch neutral claims. 2. Should we all vote Rosie, or only have a specific subset of people vote her? This is to prevent scum!Rosie from shooting a townie if she is indeed scum with the bomb ability, and it forces her to shoot within a specific group of people. I think I like having only a couple of people voting her just in case she does have the bomb ability. 3. We should evaluate once Rosie is lynched. If she's mafia, yay. We're on a roll this game. If she flips neutral, then we should all put our thinking heads together and figure out the remaining scum in this game. Any objections? I want everyone to respond to point 2 if possible, as I don't want scum!Rosie to gun down someone who is a widely consensus townread. |
May 18, 2017 1:36 PM
#928
Crossbell said: So let's break this down. 1. We are lynching Rosie Today as a claimed neutral. She could either be neutral or mafia; either way, it is +EV to lynch her because we are already ahead and we should always lynch neutral claims. 2. Should we all vote Rosie, or only have a specific subset of people vote her? This is to prevent scum!Rosie from shooting a townie if she is indeed scum with the bomb ability, and it forces her to shoot within a specific group of people. I think I like having only a couple of people voting her just in case she does have the bomb ability. 3. We should evaluate once Rosie is lynched. If she's mafia, yay. We're on a roll this game. If she flips neutral, then we should all put our thinking heads together and figure out the remaining scum in this game. Any objections? I want everyone to respond to point 2 if possible, as I don't want scum!Rosie to gun down someone who is a widely consensus townread. I absoutely agree on the 1st point. I rather see atleast half the player base vote for her outside of zymf of course. You being one of the people i would want on her train same goes for ruu and re1 of course. What has me furious is that shes just gonna rng but then again she is tpr and has no reason to help town at all. That is pretty much the conclusion i was coming too i really dont see her flipping scum tho, Ill def be looking at ruu regardless tho since shes acting weird. |
May 18, 2017 1:42 PM
#929
Crossbell said: sorry I missed it.logic340 said: Can you answer my question about scum!Ruu talking about yurkin on Night 1 then NKing her? It seems like suboptimal play for scum!Ruu to make.Based of my current reads and what I can make of this vote count I'd say You, Shinichi, Ruu, or Mela (to a lesser extent since our interaction) You could throw RE in there too but I have a town on right now. So you, Ruu, Shinichi would be where I would look. And I don't really think that scum!melanoid votes AbuHumaid due to inactivity and doesn't change her vote. So I've seen Ruu make suboptimal scum plays and kills. In my first have Soren caught her partner D1 he lived throughout the game D2 cop was revealed they lived as well In NnT Gruffin was suspicious D1 got the NK N1 surprising kill. I was all over Jackrito D2 and they killed him that night. When I was scum with her in Sailor Moon they left the decision making to me while I was alive (picked purity because he knew my scum game but he was jailed) I deferred to coro night 2. After I died I felt they made s suboptimal kill but we were still able to win the game. So no it's not out of the range of her scum game imo. This is assuming she's made the decisions on whop to kill N1? Edit: typos |
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May 18, 2017 2:07 PM
#930
Crossbell said: I've started this already but I'll share my list again.2. Should we all vote Rosie, or only have a specific subset of people vote her? This is to prevent scum!Rosie from shooting a townie if she is indeed scum with the bomb ability, and it forces her to shoot within a specific group of people. I think I like having only a couple of people voting her just in case she does have the bomb ability. Any objections? I want everyone to respond to point 2 if possible, as I don't want scum!Rosie to gun down someone who is a widely consensus townread. Zymf - confirmed town had no business on this train. Wyndz - my strongest town read this game wouldn't mind if he abstained wen - I really don't he's scum here he could abstain RE1031 - has been a pretty strong town read for be before her plan..I know others are suspicious of her but I think I'd be ok with her abstaining. Everyone else (myself included) should be voting Rosie in my option. |
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May 18, 2017 3:30 PM
#932
I will only skim through Day 2 (maybe ctrl+f zymf), so could someone give me a recap? Also, did Crossbell ever reveal if she watched someone (aka me) tonight? Random comments to Night 1 Ruu said: It seems I am not the only one who is a little suspicious of WyNdZ (Case: #586)RE1031 said: Shinichi-Kun said: RE1031 said: Shinichi-Kun said: RE1031 said: Shinichi-Kun said: RE1031 said: Also, depending on how I feel about passing my two finals tomorrow, I may or may not be busy. But the only reason I see at the moment I would remove my vote from Zymf is the Jailer role is rather important, and should he be town, we would suffer a pretty great loss. Maybe I'll get some more scum tells tomorrow. Behaviorially do u really see zymf as scum? Cause i feel like his role is a hinder at times cause to protect someone i would assume he also roleblocks them. Honestly, what nailed it in was WyNdZ protecting him. Too much of a coincidence - I don't buy it. But gotta make room for the other possibility. As far as scum reads go, and I hate to say this cause I'm guilty of it as well, the majority of WyNdZ's posts are about his role. Kinda my fault too since I started off by asking him whose name he got, but once you get eliminate the "mechanics" posts, there's actually nothing really townie about him. I dont get this its one thing to you know be wary of roles, which then i do the same thing. But this is just weird your just completely tunneled on the fact that wyz has to be scum. Also how does eliminating the emchanics talk you created reveal nothing townie, if anything the statement should be read that your scum for creating all the mechanics talk, actually if ur scum you practically helped wyz lol. I don't understand what you mean.. In beginning, yeah, I talked a lot of mechanics, but I did switch to behavior analysis. Also, I tend not to believe anything anyone says that they can't prove (and especially if it doesn't make sense, like in this case, hearing Zymf was confirmed townie while factoring in he had the most votes at the time and I found him suspicious, just seemed too coincidental to me). Of course, given today's scum flip, I have no intention of voting for WyNdZ or Zymf (unless something really unexpected happens). Sorry lol im confusing at times i wasnt talking about you but wyz with his mechanics talks. Also you say you have no intention but what changed your opinion their vote placements? If you don't trust the roles its also possible for an early bus don't you think? I mean if you don't easily trust people like you say you should find it hard to agree they are town off of something like 1 vote. You know what, I've been rereading the votes... If Rosie didn't last minute vote Melanoid and WyNdZ didn't change his vote from Mela->Abu, Abu would have been lynched. If you ignore WyNdZ's vote change, Abu would have been lynched no matter what. In fact, if we're looking at this from WyNdZ's perspective moments before TIME!, Abu is getting lynched. So it doesn't seem like a terrible idea for him to jump on the train that seems like it's going to carry out to gain some town credit when it flips scum. Although this is just speculation and I think Rosie is far more suspicious right now. I really like this post. Another reason why my idea of Wy being scum and trying to pocket Zymf + gain towncred is not so crazy. RE1031 said: I like my role ^^Ugh the Jailor role kinda sucks lol I was thinking: hey, why doesn't Crossbell watch Zymf and Zymf protect Crossbell? And then I realized if Zymf "protects" Crossbell, he won't be able to watch Zymf.... Yah it assumes they both are town but it was a nice thought while it lasted...... - I can roleblock Night Kills and thus detect scum. (like I tried with WyNdZ) - Or I can protect from Night Kills and thus confirm town. |
May 18, 2017 3:47 PM
#933
Shinichi-Kun said: Ruu said: Shinichi-Kun said: Ruu said: WyNdZ said: RE1031 said: Sorry for the delay, went from packing all day to driving all night, not fun. Anyway, about my plan, seeing as it ticked more than a couple people off, I won't joke about it. Because my role is the double voter, and Rosie only needs 2 votes for a lynch, I'm going to offer to use my active and vote for her today. I'm getting scum read by at least two people, and it'd be a waste for someone with a much better townie rep to be killed (and flip town). I had this plan since N1, and I was quite worried I'd be killed because my role is dangerous for scum. If the top two lynch trains are scum and me, I can vote scum simply to save myself. This plan does work - like you technically can't stop me because if I use my active, you'd be risking getting killed by the bomb for nothing. It's just that if Rosie is mafia, it works better because then we know town was always going to get killed, and then the votes can be more easily read. If she's TPR, then there'd actually be a chance of mafia dying, and votes will be harder to read. And of course, the reason I had to wait is because if I offered this plan from the start, there'd be nothing to go off on when it comes to who's willing to vote Rosie and who's not, since we'll all just default to the plan. There are a couple issues with my plan, but all of them are trust-issues. Also, the only reason I'm telling you instead of doing it is just in case I missed something and it doesn't work before I waste my only shot. Hmmm that's an interesting plan. I feel like if Rosie is indeed TPR and not mafia we might have been able to get some information by seeing who was reluctant to vote on her. Like you said you've already waited for some time to get such information and well I feel like the mafia would know it would bring suspicion on them if they didn't vote so probably everyone would vote on Rosie. I don't really like when someone is sacrificed but if everyone agrees then i guess we can follow through with your plan. We're going to have to keep our faith that nobody is going to do a last minute vote or anything though. Unlikely but lol it wouldn't be the first time I've seen something crazy happen in a mafia game before. We also negate the possibility of Rosie being able to kill a mafia. She seems pissed at the town though so I think she would probably try to kill someone who she thinks is town. Anyways I feel like Rosie probably chose odd days so if we do go through with this plan hopefully you survive. Fear of getting killed by Rosie = mafia smh nobody wants to die no matter their alignment. not true at all how is this not true? lmao If you die you can't play anymore so the fun is over who would be okay with that? No shit ruu lol, but your ok that letting her live because ur afraid of that small chance u will be her target? aahah no, she is getting lynch I just don't want to be a candidate for the killing xD |
May 18, 2017 3:50 PM
#935
Ruu said: RE1031 said: Ruu said: RE1031 said: Oyasumi_Rosie said: RE1031 said: Actually.... I think they would. At least they would state their plan and except people not to go through with it. You know I normally use RNG for these kinds of things, so if you were scum you could have taken a change that there were too many people/Wen was still on my train.@Ruu You suspect me, yet you've clearly read Rosie's post about my plan being stupid. Stupid or not, do you think scum would do that? @Ruu So is it a stupid plan or not :P If I'm scum, it's brilliant, no? only if you actually get the town cred but I'm not buying it I guess now I know how Rosie feels, not getting believed. Oh well. It's not like I town read you anymore anyway. She doesn't believe me = she must be scum flawless thinking smh Both parts have nothing to do with each other. The fact you've been avoiding Rosie's train is what bothers me. If I thought anyone who didn't believe me was scum, there'd be a lot more people on my list besides you and Crossbell. |
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May 18, 2017 3:53 PM
#936
Ruu said: Shinichi-Kun said: Ruu said: Shinichi-Kun said: Ruu said: WyNdZ said: RE1031 said: Sorry for the delay, went from packing all day to driving all night, not fun. Anyway, about my plan, seeing as it ticked more than a couple people off, I won't joke about it. Because my role is the double voter, and Rosie only needs 2 votes for a lynch, I'm going to offer to use my active and vote for her today. I'm getting scum read by at least two people, and it'd be a waste for someone with a much better townie rep to be killed (and flip town). I had this plan since N1, and I was quite worried I'd be killed because my role is dangerous for scum. If the top two lynch trains are scum and me, I can vote scum simply to save myself. This plan does work - like you technically can't stop me because if I use my active, you'd be risking getting killed by the bomb for nothing. It's just that if Rosie is mafia, it works better because then we know town was always going to get killed, and then the votes can be more easily read. If she's TPR, then there'd actually be a chance of mafia dying, and votes will be harder to read. And of course, the reason I had to wait is because if I offered this plan from the start, there'd be nothing to go off on when it comes to who's willing to vote Rosie and who's not, since we'll all just default to the plan. There are a couple issues with my plan, but all of them are trust-issues. Also, the only reason I'm telling you instead of doing it is just in case I missed something and it doesn't work before I waste my only shot. Hmmm that's an interesting plan. I feel like if Rosie is indeed TPR and not mafia we might have been able to get some information by seeing who was reluctant to vote on her. Like you said you've already waited for some time to get such information and well I feel like the mafia would know it would bring suspicion on them if they didn't vote so probably everyone would vote on Rosie. I don't really like when someone is sacrificed but if everyone agrees then i guess we can follow through with your plan. We're going to have to keep our faith that nobody is going to do a last minute vote or anything though. Unlikely but lol it wouldn't be the first time I've seen something crazy happen in a mafia game before. We also negate the possibility of Rosie being able to kill a mafia. She seems pissed at the town though so I think she would probably try to kill someone who she thinks is town. Anyways I feel like Rosie probably chose odd days so if we do go through with this plan hopefully you survive. Fear of getting killed by Rosie = mafia smh nobody wants to die no matter their alignment. not true at all how is this not true? lmao If you die you can't play anymore so the fun is over who would be okay with that? No shit ruu lol, but your ok that letting her live because ur afraid of that small chance u will be her target? aahah no, she is getting lynch I just don't want to be a candidate for the killing xD >_> idk if ur cautious town or obvious scum |
May 18, 2017 3:54 PM
#937
RE1031 said: Ruu said: RE1031 said: Ruu said: RE1031 said: Oyasumi_Rosie said: RE1031 said: Actually.... I think they would. At least they would state their plan and except people not to go through with it. You know I normally use RNG for these kinds of things, so if you were scum you could have taken a change that there were too many people/Wen was still on my train.@Ruu You suspect me, yet you've clearly read Rosie's post about my plan being stupid. Stupid or not, do you think scum would do that? @Ruu So is it a stupid plan or not :P If I'm scum, it's brilliant, no? only if you actually get the town cred but I'm not buying it I guess now I know how Rosie feels, not getting believed. Oh well. It's not like I town read you anymore anyway. She doesn't believe me = she must be scum flawless thinking smh Both parts have nothing to do with each other. The fact you've been avoiding Rosie's train is what bothers me. If I thought anyone who didn't believe me was scum, there'd be a lot more people on my list besides you and Crossbell. Like me :D since me and you clash quite alot tho surpisngly that hasnt happened this game i just dont trust you for wanting wy information so soon. |
May 18, 2017 3:55 PM
#938
Zymf said: I will only skim through Day 2 (maybe ctrl+f zymf), so could someone give me a recap? Also, did Crossbell ever reveal if she watched someone (aka me) tonight? Random comments to Night 1 Ruu said: It seems I am not the only one who is a little suspicious of WyNdZ (Case: #586)RE1031 said: Shinichi-Kun said: RE1031 said: Shinichi-Kun said: RE1031 said: Shinichi-Kun said: RE1031 said: Also, depending on how I feel about passing my two finals tomorrow, I may or may not be busy. But the only reason I see at the moment I would remove my vote from Zymf is the Jailer role is rather important, and should he be town, we would suffer a pretty great loss. Maybe I'll get some more scum tells tomorrow. Behaviorially do u really see zymf as scum? Cause i feel like his role is a hinder at times cause to protect someone i would assume he also roleblocks them. Honestly, what nailed it in was WyNdZ protecting him. Too much of a coincidence - I don't buy it. But gotta make room for the other possibility. As far as scum reads go, and I hate to say this cause I'm guilty of it as well, the majority of WyNdZ's posts are about his role. Kinda my fault too since I started off by asking him whose name he got, but once you get eliminate the "mechanics" posts, there's actually nothing really townie about him. I dont get this its one thing to you know be wary of roles, which then i do the same thing. But this is just weird your just completely tunneled on the fact that wyz has to be scum. Also how does eliminating the emchanics talk you created reveal nothing townie, if anything the statement should be read that your scum for creating all the mechanics talk, actually if ur scum you practically helped wyz lol. I don't understand what you mean.. In beginning, yeah, I talked a lot of mechanics, but I did switch to behavior analysis. Also, I tend not to believe anything anyone says that they can't prove (and especially if it doesn't make sense, like in this case, hearing Zymf was confirmed townie while factoring in he had the most votes at the time and I found him suspicious, just seemed too coincidental to me). Of course, given today's scum flip, I have no intention of voting for WyNdZ or Zymf (unless something really unexpected happens). Sorry lol im confusing at times i wasnt talking about you but wyz with his mechanics talks. Also you say you have no intention but what changed your opinion their vote placements? If you don't trust the roles its also possible for an early bus don't you think? I mean if you don't easily trust people like you say you should find it hard to agree they are town off of something like 1 vote. You know what, I've been rereading the votes... If Rosie didn't last minute vote Melanoid and WyNdZ didn't change his vote from Mela->Abu, Abu would have been lynched. If you ignore WyNdZ's vote change, Abu would have been lynched no matter what. In fact, if we're looking at this from WyNdZ's perspective moments before TIME!, Abu is getting lynched. So it doesn't seem like a terrible idea for him to jump on the train that seems like it's going to carry out to gain some town credit when it flips scum. Although this is just speculation and I think Rosie is far more suspicious right now. I really like this post. Another reason why my idea of Wy being scum and trying to pocket Zymf + gain towncred is not so crazy. RE1031 said: I like my role ^^Ugh the Jailor role kinda sucks lol I was thinking: hey, why doesn't Crossbell watch Zymf and Zymf protect Crossbell? And then I realized if Zymf "protects" Crossbell, he won't be able to watch Zymf.... Yah it assumes they both are town but it was a nice thought while it lasted...... - I can roleblock Night Kills and thus detect scum. (like I tried with WyNdZ) - Or I can protect from Night Kills and thus confirm town. Rosie claimed TPR there has been a lot of focus on that. Rosie says she will not be able to kill anyone today. RE is willing to use her double vote to be Rosie's only victim Crossbell says he watched you last night. Ruu seems to be avoiding the Rosie train (but I could be wrong). RE and Rosie have been going at one another Rosie wants the hosts to end the phase early |
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May 18, 2017 3:57 PM
#939
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May 18, 2017 4:00 PM
#940
Shinichi-Kun said: I'm going to work on an ISO. Never knew how many words you "N" and "B" so it is slow going. I see some of the same scum markers I saw in Disgaea when I caught her there. Please be patient with me.Ruu said: Shinichi-Kun said: Ruu said: Shinichi-Kun said: Ruu said: WyNdZ said: RE1031 said: Sorry for the delay, went from packing all day to driving all night, not fun. Anyway, about my plan, seeing as it ticked more than a couple people off, I won't joke about it. Because my role is the double voter, and Rosie only needs 2 votes for a lynch, I'm going to offer to use my active and vote for her today. I'm getting scum read by at least two people, and it'd be a waste for someone with a much better townie rep to be killed (and flip town). I had this plan since N1, and I was quite worried I'd be killed because my role is dangerous for scum. If the top two lynch trains are scum and me, I can vote scum simply to save myself. This plan does work - like you technically can't stop me because if I use my active, you'd be risking getting killed by the bomb for nothing. It's just that if Rosie is mafia, it works better because then we know town was always going to get killed, and then the votes can be more easily read. If she's TPR, then there'd actually be a chance of mafia dying, and votes will be harder to read. And of course, the reason I had to wait is because if I offered this plan from the start, there'd be nothing to go off on when it comes to who's willing to vote Rosie and who's not, since we'll all just default to the plan. There are a couple issues with my plan, but all of them are trust-issues. Also, the only reason I'm telling you instead of doing it is just in case I missed something and it doesn't work before I waste my only shot. Hmmm that's an interesting plan. I feel like if Rosie is indeed TPR and not mafia we might have been able to get some information by seeing who was reluctant to vote on her. Like you said you've already waited for some time to get such information and well I feel like the mafia would know it would bring suspicion on them if they didn't vote so probably everyone would vote on Rosie. I don't really like when someone is sacrificed but if everyone agrees then i guess we can follow through with your plan. We're going to have to keep our faith that nobody is going to do a last minute vote or anything though. Unlikely but lol it wouldn't be the first time I've seen something crazy happen in a mafia game before. We also negate the possibility of Rosie being able to kill a mafia. She seems pissed at the town though so I think she would probably try to kill someone who she thinks is town. Anyways I feel like Rosie probably chose odd days so if we do go through with this plan hopefully you survive. Fear of getting killed by Rosie = mafia smh nobody wants to die no matter their alignment. not true at all how is this not true? lmao If you die you can't play anymore so the fun is over who would be okay with that? No shit ruu lol, but your ok that letting her live because ur afraid of that small chance u will be her target? aahah no, she is getting lynch I just don't want to be a candidate for the killing xD >_> idk if ur cautious town or obvious scum |
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May 18, 2017 4:06 PM
#941
Post #593: Logic suggest that Rosie might be a TPR logic340 said: RE1031 said: I hadn't thought about it either. At this point I think Rosie may be third party. That post where she said all roles were neutral to here made me think she might be hinting towards he alignment.?Did not see that coming. I overlooked the usefulness of her role. And basically everything else. Anyway, I have a plan (which I will reveal in due time). It requires universal cooperation. Rosie's actions from yesterday are highly suspicious. She also has not offered any explanation to them. I get the feeling mafia would be more defensive. I think it's important we lynch her today - but not before discussing whether she is third party or mafia. #597: RE says her "plan" only works if Rosie is mafia not third party. RE1031 said: I'm so sad... My plan only works if Rosie is mafia not third party... #599: WyNdZ talks about third party in relation to votes and ties WyNdZ said: But I did suspect Rosie to be a mafia long back. I still do, as for why I suspect that she wants to create a tie. Because she literally made the change in like the last moments. But yeah it seems my idea of the third party's goal being to get a tie is probably wrong. A tie only leads to no lynch on day 1 not all the days like I initially thought so yeah it doesn't make much sense for the third party to try creating a tie in votes. Post #629: I think this post speaks for itself... Oyasumi_Rosie said: RE1031 said: Oyasumi_Rosie said: I don't know, and I don't care what RE's plan is. If it hinges on me being maifa is already broken Just tell me, are you third party? And your conditions? pwetty pwease c; I don't know... all those votes are vewy vewy scawy.... 3: If I tell the twuth would you believe me? Post #637: Rosie begin to claim TPR Oyasumi_Rosie said: I have to guess killed correctly for three phases, but the guess has to be made a phase in advance. I RNG'd and got Mel. Conclusion: I don't trust Rosie's third party claim and I think we are gonna hit another mafia today. She only came up with the fake claim because others had already suggested it and it would save her from RE's "terrible plan" (and Rosie knew she was already in a bit of a pinch). She came up with her funny win condition by taking inspiration from the game state and from posts like WyNdZ's. ps. I'm on page 15 currently. pps. Thanks for the recap. |
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May 18, 2017 4:09 PM
#942
Shinichi-Kun said: RE1031 said: Ruu said: RE1031 said: Ruu said: RE1031 said: Oyasumi_Rosie said: RE1031 said: Actually.... I think they would. At least they would state their plan and except people not to go through with it. You know I normally use RNG for these kinds of things, so if you were scum you could have taken a change that there were too many people/Wen was still on my train.@Ruu You suspect me, yet you've clearly read Rosie's post about my plan being stupid. Stupid or not, do you think scum would do that? @Ruu So is it a stupid plan or not :P If I'm scum, it's brilliant, no? only if you actually get the town cred but I'm not buying it I guess now I know how Rosie feels, not getting believed. Oh well. It's not like I town read you anymore anyway. She doesn't believe me = she must be scum flawless thinking smh Both parts have nothing to do with each other. The fact you've been avoiding Rosie's train is what bothers me. If I thought anyone who didn't believe me was scum, there'd be a lot more people on my list besides you and Crossbell. Like me :D since me and you clash quite alot tho surpisngly that hasnt happened this game i just dont trust you for wanting wy information so soon. Fair enough, although I still don't see how wanting that information is scummy. But it wasn't like I thought my question through, it was more of a conversation starter + I dislike wriggle room. |
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May 18, 2017 4:49 PM
#943
logic340 said: Shinichi-Kun said: I'm going to work on an ISO. Never knew how many words you "N" and "B" so it is slow going. I see some of the same scum markers I saw in Disgaea when I caught her there. Please be patient with me.Ruu said: Shinichi-Kun said: Ruu said: Shinichi-Kun said: Ruu said: WyNdZ said: RE1031 said: Sorry for the delay, went from packing all day to driving all night, not fun. Anyway, about my plan, seeing as it ticked more than a couple people off, I won't joke about it. Because my role is the double voter, and Rosie only needs 2 votes for a lynch, I'm going to offer to use my active and vote for her today. I'm getting scum read by at least two people, and it'd be a waste for someone with a much better townie rep to be killed (and flip town). I had this plan since N1, and I was quite worried I'd be killed because my role is dangerous for scum. If the top two lynch trains are scum and me, I can vote scum simply to save myself. This plan does work - like you technically can't stop me because if I use my active, you'd be risking getting killed by the bomb for nothing. It's just that if Rosie is mafia, it works better because then we know town was always going to get killed, and then the votes can be more easily read. If she's TPR, then there'd actually be a chance of mafia dying, and votes will be harder to read. And of course, the reason I had to wait is because if I offered this plan from the start, there'd be nothing to go off on when it comes to who's willing to vote Rosie and who's not, since we'll all just default to the plan. There are a couple issues with my plan, but all of them are trust-issues. Also, the only reason I'm telling you instead of doing it is just in case I missed something and it doesn't work before I waste my only shot. Hmmm that's an interesting plan. I feel like if Rosie is indeed TPR and not mafia we might have been able to get some information by seeing who was reluctant to vote on her. Like you said you've already waited for some time to get such information and well I feel like the mafia would know it would bring suspicion on them if they didn't vote so probably everyone would vote on Rosie. I don't really like when someone is sacrificed but if everyone agrees then i guess we can follow through with your plan. We're going to have to keep our faith that nobody is going to do a last minute vote or anything though. Unlikely but lol it wouldn't be the first time I've seen something crazy happen in a mafia game before. We also negate the possibility of Rosie being able to kill a mafia. She seems pissed at the town though so I think she would probably try to kill someone who she thinks is town. Anyways I feel like Rosie probably chose odd days so if we do go through with this plan hopefully you survive. Fear of getting killed by Rosie = mafia smh nobody wants to die no matter their alignment. not true at all how is this not true? lmao If you die you can't play anymore so the fun is over who would be okay with that? No shit ruu lol, but your ok that letting her live because ur afraid of that small chance u will be her target? aahah no, she is getting lynch I just don't want to be a candidate for the killing xD >_> idk if ur cautious town or obvious scum Np take your time :D |
May 18, 2017 4:50 PM
#944
RE1031 said: Shinichi-Kun said: RE1031 said: Ruu said: RE1031 said: Ruu said: RE1031 said: Oyasumi_Rosie said: RE1031 said: Actually.... I think they would. At least they would state their plan and except people not to go through with it. You know I normally use RNG for these kinds of things, so if you were scum you could have taken a change that there were too many people/Wen was still on my train.@Ruu You suspect me, yet you've clearly read Rosie's post about my plan being stupid. Stupid or not, do you think scum would do that? @Ruu So is it a stupid plan or not :P If I'm scum, it's brilliant, no? only if you actually get the town cred but I'm not buying it I guess now I know how Rosie feels, not getting believed. Oh well. It's not like I town read you anymore anyway. She doesn't believe me = she must be scum flawless thinking smh Both parts have nothing to do with each other. The fact you've been avoiding Rosie's train is what bothers me. If I thought anyone who didn't believe me was scum, there'd be a lot more people on my list besides you and Crossbell. Like me :D since me and you clash quite alot tho surpisngly that hasnt happened this game i just dont trust you for wanting wy information so soon. Fair enough, although I still don't see how wanting that information is scummy. But it wasn't like I thought my question through, it was more of a conversation starter + I dislike wriggle room. Honestly i dont think u did either which is why I dislike ruu more than you right now. |
May 18, 2017 4:55 PM
#945
tpr means town power role? I still think lynching Rosie is the way to go today. She's been wanting to end the day now but I think that would be just wasting a day phase. Re1031's plan sounds nice, in case rosie was lying with not being able to explode this day only, then re would go boom. but then again rosie and re1031 interactions looks like they aren't on the same alignment so maybe re going boom doesn't sound good. Can Re still cancel her ability once she posted that she's using it? |
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May 18, 2017 4:56 PM
#946
@melanoid it means Third Party Role when refering to a town Power role normally we will just say So and so has a PR |
May 18, 2017 5:01 PM
#947
Shinichi-Kun said: @melanoid it means Third Party Role when refering to a town Power role normally we will just say So and so has a PR alright thanks, it was confusing me for some time now ;-; |
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May 18, 2017 5:05 PM
#948
I'm pretty sure I can't. But this way, I don't accidentally go killing townies and my role is less of a threat to scum. edit: less of a threat to scum = less likely to get killed during the night |
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May 18, 2017 5:13 PM
#949
RE1031 said: I'm pretty sure I can't. But this way, I don't accidentally go killing townies and my role is less of a threat to scum. edit: less of a threat to scum = less likely to get killed during the night If i was to allow something like that to be cancelled i would make it so it can only be cancelled at most 3 hours before phase change. But if you were to cancel it now i would just scum read you |
May 18, 2017 5:23 PM
#950
π« Vote Count 2.5 π« π₯ π₯ Oyasumi_Rosie π₯ π₯ (9): π° logic340, WyNdZ, wen294, Shinichi-kun, melanoid, Oyasumi_Rosie, π RE1031 π, Crossbell π° π£ RE1031 π£ (1): π° Ruu π° π± Not Voting π± Zymf π€ Role Index π€ Camoflagued Egg [Watcher] - Crossbell Fullmetal Egg [Jailer] - Zymf Golden Egg [Lightning Rod] - AbuHumaid Explosive Egg [Bomb] - Oyasumi_Rosie Occult Egg [Peeker] - Wyndz Duckling Egg [Neighborizerr] - Logic340 Sparkling Egg [Reloader] - Yurkin Royal Egg [Doublevoter] - Re1031 Spooky Egg [Amnesiac] - Shinichi-kun Decorative Egg [Artist] - wen294 Oeuf Suprême [Chef] - melanoid Green Egg and Ham [Egg Thrower] - Ruu >>Day 2 Timer<< |
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