Monogatari Series: First Season
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| The thing is though, that it was totally Koyomi's speculation that it was a boy. We have no way of knowing what happened, and since we're basing this totally off of Nadeko's story, I have a hard time believing it since we've learned that: a) we're always missing a piece of the puzzle b) after Kanbaru's story, we know not to completely trust the girl with the oddity But it was totally just rushed through, so it seemingly doesn't matter. |
| This episode was quite bizarre...and it had a LOT of screen cuts. It must have been difficult for the Seiyuu's to do this one considering the sound didn't match up with the images and the characters mouths weren't moving at all sometimes. Very complex, so kudos to them. |
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DeathfireD said: Vinhthehero said: Producer Shaft has previously been the subject of derision after it was revealed that the company is in dire and constant danger of failing to meet its production deadlines, presumably due to a lack of staff – in fact the company advertises on its website the fact that it is “urgently” recruiting animators. Fans are hoping the missing scenes and incomplete animation will be restored/finished in the DVD version, but even so this hardly augurs well for future Shaft productions… Source Thanks for pointing that out. I was under the impression that they where censors since they left out some vocal lines too (ie. Voice / Line cut due to circumstances) and all the stills happened when Araragi was fighting the snake. It's pretty sad that they're releasing work when it's not even finished though. I really hope they finish it for the DVD releases. Well, this definitely helps explain that lack of animation in this episode and replacing it with the red/black scenes. Good to know. |
| ugg yeah.. Animation was definitely lacking in this one.. Otherwise it was a good episode. |
Laevantein said: mangekyoux said: Hey if the last 3 were not from Bakemonogatari, is that means we will never saw Senjougahara again? damn that will be sucksepisode 11 and 12 will be tsubasa cat, and the last 3 is not really from the bakemonogatari novel, its from the Kizumonogatari which is named "Koyomi Vamp" featuring both shinobu bfore she lost her personality and araragi. also i found a cool teaser video of koyomi vamp [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9UYXMoBRiM&NR=1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9UYXMoBRiM&NR=1 Shinobu will be in it too. |
The previous story was much more interesting |
Comedian said: We missed her do weThe previous story was much more interesting |
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| Another amazing episode! Nadeko is sooo cute! <3 I love the opening! Can't stop watching it XD |
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| I think this anime is a work of art itself. It doesn't fail to amuse me, and the dialogue doesn't bore me at all. That aside; BEST OP EVARRR! |
Ahohime said: I think this anime is a work of art itself. It doesn't fail to amuse me, and the dialogue doesn't bore me at all. ^This |
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Ahohime said: I think this anime is a work of art itself. It doesn't fail to amuse me, and the dialogue doesn't bore me at all. That aside; BEST OP EVARRR! 100% agree xD |
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Morkand-san said: Yeah I can't stop watching that opening too. Love her voice. Wish there was a whole season of something with that opening.Ahohime said: I think this anime is a work of art itself. It doesn't fail to amuse me, and the dialogue doesn't bore me at all. That aside; BEST OP EVARRR! 100% agree xD |
saxophone said: Morkand-san said: Yeah I can't stop watching that opening too. Love her voice. Wish there was a whole season of something with that opening.Ahohime said: I think this anime is a work of art itself. It doesn't fail to amuse me, and the dialogue doesn't bore me at all. That aside; BEST OP EVARRR! 100% agree xD dangerous idea |
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| That girl. Better be in the next episodes. Also lack of Tsukihi is depressing. |
| Well this arc finished up pretty fast. Nadeko was awesome, though I do miss Senjougahara. She needs more screen time. |
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EmeraldBliss said: The series is simply bad. There's barely any development or progress each episode because the show wastes time with pointless dialogue. No, the dialogue isn't clever or funny, it's just dumb. The show hardly has any animation. Mostly eye shots and random splash screens. The story is a harem in disguise. It doesn't matter that he has a girl friend when they don't act the part. She's only a girlfriend by title. The CG backgrounds are tacky and distracting. It doesn't look natural at all. All the characters are flat and wooden. I don't care about a single one of them. The worst thing about the show, it's boring. I find myself bored during most of the episode. Bakemonogatari is the most overrated show this season. I kind of agree with the above post (from first page of the thread). I thought I was the only one who didn't get what the hell's so cool about this show because it seems everyone loves it. The scenes are nice but the flashes of images are irritatingly distracting. The conversations may have some form of depth but they're dragging and moodless. This whole show seems to have overdosed on conversations and lacks a whole lot of mood! However, I do like the art, and the story does get creative, but the execution really really sucks and so it's boring for me. But I respect that this is a favored show by a lot of people (for some reason I cannot fathom). I'm just different, I guess. Sorry for the rant :P |
| The production quality of the animation in this episode was disturbingly bad. It's pretty asinine for them to blow their load on things like a new OP every other episode and have this kind of result on the actual episode. I gave the episode a 2/5 because I could barely even bring myself to watch the second half of it. |
sathepine said: EmeraldBliss said: The series is simply bad. There's barely any development or progress each episode because the show wastes time with pointless dialogue. No, the dialogue isn't clever or funny, it's just dumb. The show hardly has any animation. Mostly eye shots and random splash screens. The story is a harem in disguise. It doesn't matter that he has a girl friend when they don't act the part. She's only a girlfriend by title. The CG backgrounds are tacky and distracting. It doesn't look natural at all. All the characters are flat and wooden. I don't care about a single one of them. The worst thing about the show, it's boring. I find myself bored during most of the episode. Bakemonogatari is the most overrated show this season. I kind of agree with the above post (from first page of the thread). I thought I was the only one who didn't get what the hell's so cool about this show because it seems everyone loves it. The scenes are nice but the flashes of images are irritatingly distracting. The conversations may have some form of depth but they're dragging and moodless. This whole show seems to have overdosed on conversations and lacks a whole lot of mood! However, I do like the art, and the story does get creative, but the execution really really sucks and so it's boring for me. But I respect that this is a favored show by a lot of people (for some reason I cannot fathom). I'm just different, I guess. Sorry for the rant :P *facepalm* I've got nothing else to say, really ┐(-｡ｰ')┌ |
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Zilpzalp said: Bakemonogatari itself is awesome. The way everything is done - the art, style, stories, the way everything happens etc - everything! Really. I thought the anime was awesome before reading this forums, so I think that that is my real opinion. Now you could've been me in disguise : o You're saying exactly what I'm thinking about this : 3 |
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Oosran said: Zilpzalp said: Bakemonogatari itself is awesome. The way everything is done - the art, style, stories, the way everything happens etc - everything! Really. I thought the anime was awesome before reading this forums, so I think that that is my real opinion. Now you could've been me in disguise : o You're saying exactly what I'm thinking about this : 3 So do I xD |
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| Delicious, delicious pretentiousness. Despite not being able to tell what was going on in most of the last half of this episode -- well, perhaps on account of it -- that scene was particularly intense for me, actually. I'd certainly like to see a properly filled-out version of it though. Of course it's not normally that which one's familiar with that is scary. |
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| Everyone has their likes and dislikes, so there's no point in forcing those people who doesn't like the show to still watch the next episode. They can drop it if they want, there's no one stopping them. The episode was awesome. The song is even more catchier than Ambivalent world. : D Also, i heard a rumour that there were budget cuts, that's why there were so many title cards. It's too bad though, koyomi vs the snake might make a very nice fight scene like the rainy devil. |
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| I like how they have a new OP everytime a new character is introduced......however I am sick and tired of all these freakin lolis. Doesn't anyone else think that watching a little girl squirm and cry in a swimsuit is just straight out disgusting? Well, I do. >> And wow, I didn't expect to see so much backlash against this anime lol. For me, I think the SHAFT (thats the production company, right?) really took a risk in portraying the show and a really good risk at that. Its something I've never seen done before. Although, I do understand how one would think that the dialogue is boring. Its boring for me too. I zone out several times in each episode :P and it is a harem, no doubt about that. All girls, one guy, and they all fawn for him like there's no tomorrow. Yep, harem. So according to Wikipedia, episode 11 comes out today. Hopefully it'll be fansubbed soon. I don't get how anybody that can't understand Japanese can watch an anime with only moonspeak and no subs haha |
Ryuukishi said: Everyone has their likes and dislikes, so there's no point in forcing those people who doesn't like the show to still watch the next episode. They can drop it if they want, there's no one stopping them. I feel so stupid. I should have dropped this anime after episode 1. But I thought it would improve, since everyone seemed to like it. Well it didn't, not for me anyway. But... only 15 episodes huh? I survived through 10 already - might as well finish the whole show, I guess. |
| This show already already feels like a slideshow. But this episode was pushing it. Good grief. Most slideshowy episode on a slideshowy show on a slideshowy anime producer. |
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| zzzz at the fight. If they actually finish it in time for the DVD releases I'll have to get them just cause bakemono is so awesome! Arc was pretty good, but fav one is still snail/crab |
| Nice ep. I thought the new girl died at the end, but I'm glad she survived. Next arc seems interesting. |
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| nice opening but not so good like the Hachikuji opening in terms of lolz Koyomi has a bad defence in fights, he should use a gun XD I begin to like Kanbaru in the first eps where she made her appearance I hated her with passion. I don't really want to see more freak of the (2)week(s),I would rather like to see episodes which centers Koyomi and Hitagi in daily situations. |
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Fabienne said: I don't really want to see more freak of the (2)week(s),I would rather like to see episodes which centers Koyomi and Hitagi in daily situations. ^This, although we all probably know that won't be happening : ( |
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Oosran said: Fabienne said: I don't really want to see more freak of the (2)week(s),I would rather like to see episodes which centers Koyomi and Hitagi in daily situations. ^This, although we all probably know that won't be happening : ( eh, how many freaks are left ? ;) |
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Fabienne said: Oosran said: Fabienne said: I don't really want to see more freak of the (2)week(s),I would rather like to see episodes which centers Koyomi and Hitagi in daily situations. ^This, although we all probably know that won't be happening : ( eh, how many freaks are left ? ;) Dunno, a bunch? And it wouldn't surprise me much if they decided to put in a new original freak after they've gone through the remaining : p Although it would be pretty nice having something like.. a spin-off second season or ova or whatever focusing more on Araragi and Senjougahara : D |
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| I loved the OP for this episode. It kind of makes me wish they show it again. Delicious loli is delicious loli and am not even a crazy loli fan. I liked the fight with the snake and the whole explanation with the curse and how two people cursed her. After two episodes i kind of want to see Senjougahara but i can't say i missed her very much since the episodes were good with out her. Only thing am wondering is at one moment when they were showing Araraki speaking or something and it was just a still frame of his face. Did they wanted to do that? Or did they just messed up? Hope we can see more of this loli. I kind of liked her. |
MonadSep 20, 2009 6:02 PM
| There is a few things on this episode that did slightly is annoy me. 1. I don't know if its thanks to lazyness, or to its art style, but those parts describing only colors n' stuff really were overboard this time. There was no reason not to animate it as it should, come on, if its because of violence then the kambaru's arc would be mostly black, red and white panels... 2. All that loli fanservice kind of killed the mood of the anime. I consider Bakemonogatari something that would go to the level of Natsume Yujinjchu or Mushishi. I still do, somehow... 3. I understand the main character is Araragi, but heck where is Senjougahara? It felt like she was only a secondary heroine like Kambaru, who stays for a few arc after ending hers, and then she suddenly disappears... Sure, having Araragi to notice his kindness towards everyone migh cause trouble to others really is nice and all, but still gets shadowed over this things i (IMO) point as flaws. Therefore i still reclaim my 9. |
Ryushi said: 2. All that loli fanservice kind of killed the mood of the anime. I consider Bakemonogatari something that would go to the level of Natsume Yujinjchu or Mushishi. I still do, somehow... WTF with people and thinking that fanservise means less quality. A nicely put fanservise only adds to the experience. If this is the same people that make Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei then it's logical that they will play with sexuality since it's something they like to do. But they do it very wonderfully along with very smart comments about it and i see nothing wrong with it. |
Monad said: I dislike SZS pretty much, tho i do agree that the fanservice on it really had a propouse. But did knowing that Araragi likes school swimsuits add anyting to the plot?WTF with people and thinking that fanservise means less quality. A nicely put fanservise only adds to the experience. If this is the same people that make Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei then it's logical that they will play with sexuality since it's something they like to do. But they do it very wonderfully along with very smart comments about it and i see nothing wrong with it. I couldn't relate that to either comical or character develpment parts. I'm sorry to say this but the fanservice in this episode was completely useless. It only felt like it was a poor attempt to attract more people to watch this series. Which makes me quite concerned about the rest of the episodes. Now i can't be watching this seires anywhere i go because i might get misunderstood as a perv. Wait, that phrase was somewhat wrong, i am a perv alright, but i still need to keep the appearences so people won't become an obstacle later. |
RyushiSep 20, 2009 6:37 PM
Ryushi said: Monad said: I dislike SZS pretty much, tho i do agree that the fanservice on it really had a propouse. But did knowing that Araragi likes school swimsuits add anyting to the plot?WTF with people and thinking that fanservise means less quality. A nicely put fanservise only adds to the experience. If this is the same people that make Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei then it's logical that they will play with sexuality since it's something they like to do. But they do it very wonderfully along with very smart comments about it and i see nothing wrong with it. I couldn't relate that to either comical or character develpment parts. I'm sorry to say this but the fanservice in this episode was completely useless. It only felt like it was a poor attempt to attract more people to watch this series. Which makes me quite concerned about the rest of the episodes. Now i can't be watching this seires anywhere i go because i might get misunderstood as a perv. Wait, that phrase was somewhat wrong, i am a perv alright, but i still need to keep the appearences so people won't become an obstacle later. So if the threw a random conversation joke instead of a fanservise joke you would have no a problem because you wouldn't think that they are trying to attract people. Isn't that prejudice? We don't care if they throw random violence, dialog or anything else but if it's fanservise then the show is no good.When you have cool fighting scenes with blood flying all over isn't it to attract the people that like watching such staff? But if it's not about sexuality everything is fine. Because if we see a little body exposure it suddenly becomes an abomination with no essence. As i said if the fanservise is nicely done and doesn't spoil anything story wise or is a clever part of it, i see no problem even if it is to attract people like anything else that can be put in an anime. And i didn't knew the creators had to think how shy you are, your social circle or your habits of watching anime. That seems more like your personal problem to me and not a problem of the series. Personally i don't have a problem watching it in the center of a square with a big screen. |
| Pretty much a distorced way to put it, aside drom repeating youself over and over again. First of all, i never said i rather have violence over fanservice. I think this series didn't need both, sure kabaru's arc proven that they could use violence just fine without screwing up the series, but the loli fanservice, it wasn't artistic at all. It was just pure fanservice. And yes, i would probably be fine with the conversation joke. But not because i would think that they were not putting up pron just to make more people watch it, and because this series seemed to me from the start focused on smart jokes, and good puns. I would be a hypocrit saying i dislike fanservice, but there are some shows I sincerly wished that didn't have it. Bakemonogatari is one of them. It really feels out of its place. I really don't know what made you think i'm a violence freak, but you are wrong man. Other than analize me with your recycled post, i'd like you to return to reality and try rethinking what you said. Try talking to someone who thinks all anime watchers are creeps? Now try living in a society where most people are like that? Its pretty much easy to analise people from your external point of view. p.s.: You might not care about it but i do. That doesn't mean i'm wrong. It means simply what you are not as picky as me. |
| Good episode, but I am getting really annoyed with the lack of Senjougahara. |
GarLogan78 said: Good episode, but I am getting really annoyed with the lack of Senjougahara. ^This. It had to be said. Again : D |
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Ryushi said: Pretty much a distorced way to put it, aside drom repeating youself over and over again. First of all, i never said i rather have violence over fanservice. I think this series didn't need both, sure kabaru's arc proven that they could use violence just fine without screwing up the series, but the loli fanservice, it wasn't artistic at all. It was just pure fanservice. And yes, i would probably be fine with the conversation joke. But not because i would think that they were not putting up pron just to make more people watch it, and because this series seemed to me from the start focused on smart jokes, and good puns. I would be a hypocrit saying i dislike fanservice, but there are some shows I sincerly wished that didn't have it. Bakemonogatari is one of them. It really feels out of its place. I really don't know what made you think i'm a violence freak, but you are wrong man. Other than analize me with your recycled post, i'd like you to return to reality and try rethinking what you said. Try talking to someone who thinks all anime watchers are creeps? Now try living in a society where most people are like that? Its pretty much easy to analise people from your external point of view. p.s.: You might not care about it but i do. That doesn't mean i'm wrong. It means simply what you are not as picky as me. First the violence thing was an example. I didn't think you are violence freak or anything like that. You said:"this series seemed to me from the start focused on smart jokes, and good puns.". Correct put it's about fanservice and interesting attractive girls also. It was there right from the start. Weren't you watching? It's an essential part. You said that this show could do with out fanservice. There you go being prejudice again. Because a show it's good it can't have fanservice like fanservice can't be something good. There are so many stupid shows that rely only on fanservice because they have no story or anything going for them. But now that we have a show with interesting dialogs and nice stories there shouldn't be any fanservice? NO! This is were fanservice really is good. In anime that it's not just brainless fanservice but have something to offer along with it. Were fanservice is one of the elements of the show not the only purpose. This kind of fanservice really is good. It just makes the show even better. The fact that some stupid brainless shows use fanservice doesn't mean it's the fault of fanservice or that fanservice makes a show like them when it's in it. Those shows with out fanservice would have been even worse since it was the only element they had going for them. They are just bad shows, it's not the fault of fanservice. As about the last comment. It's not about you being wrong or right or if i am not picky. Is about what the maker does. And he certainly can't sit around analyzing every element of the show in comparison to every viewers habits, what kind of society they live, there social circle or how sensitive they are. He would never be able to make a show like that. |
MonadSep 23, 2009 7:03 AM
| Oii ~ Nadeko is soooooo cute and the opening for her is just great too bad its only for one episode, however Senjougahara seems to be MIA / would really like senjougahara x nadeko combo Kami sama Ari ga tou |
xTEHWAFFLESx said: omimon said: Did not expect a rap to be the theme. japrap bestrap |
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Neverender said: xTEHWAFFLESx said: omimon said: Did not expect a rap to be the theme. japrap bestrap epicrap ..wait O.o epic rap, not epi crap xD |
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| Are the unfinished scenes/animation things on purpose? Or are they actually unfinished? |
EmeraldBliss said: omimon said: EmeraldBliss said: this show keeps getting dumber I think I'll soon drop it Clearly you don't understand the inside jokes of the show. Honestly, you will just end up being the one that loses out in the end. I understand the jokes fine. The series is simply bad. There's barely any development or progress each episode because the show wastes time with pointless dialogue. No, the dialogue isn't clever or funny, it's just dumb. The show hardly has any animation. Mostly eye shots and random splash screens. The story is a harem in disguise. It doesn't matter that he has a girl friend when they don't act the part. She's only a girlfriend by title. The CG backgrounds are tacky and distracting. It doesn't look natural at all. All the characters are flat and wooden. I don't care about a single one of them. The worst thing about the show, it's boring. I find myself bored during most of the episode. Bakemonogatari is the most overrated show this season. Omg, you're me. Exactly same opinion. |
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tater_head said: EmeraldBliss said: omimon said: EmeraldBliss said: this show keeps getting dumber I think I'll soon drop it Clearly you don't understand the inside jokes of the show. Honestly, you will just end up being the one that loses out in the end. I understand the jokes fine. The series is simply bad. There's barely any development or progress each episode because the show wastes time with pointless dialogue. No, the dialogue isn't clever or funny, it's just dumb. The show hardly has any animation. Mostly eye shots and random splash screens. The story is a harem in disguise. It doesn't matter that he has a girl friend when they don't act the part. She's only a girlfriend by title. The CG backgrounds are tacky and distracting. It doesn't look natural at all. All the characters are flat and wooden. I don't care about a single one of them. The worst thing about the show, it's boring. I find myself bored during most of the episode. Bakemonogatari is the most overrated show this season. Omg, you're me. Exactly same opinion. SAME HERE |
| if you don't like it just don't watch it. Simple isn't it? Overrated? These scores are based on people's evaluation on the anime so what you think doesn't really matter as long as people like it. Even if it is the worst anime for you it might be the best to someone else. Bakemonogatari is great! |
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