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Sep 12, 2016 10:18 AM

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Dammit cliffhanger. Would be interesting to see how Tengen's claim and Asahina's discovery connect with each other.
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion.

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Sep 12, 2016 10:19 AM

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It's the start of chapter 6 of the first game :)


Thank you very much for clarifying ^^ Hue >w<


It is also in the anime episode 11. You just didn't care about that scene back then probably.
Sep 12, 2016 10:21 AM

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When the episode was out I was hypying like crazy, like I was even nervous XD

Loved to see one of the scenes of the first Dangaronpa game, when Naegi was in the underground trash


SO NAEGIRI WAS OFFICIALLY CONFIRMED (and excuse me if I didn't notice it was confirmed waaay back in the game but I saw it just as one of the fandom's ships) but the ship already sank because Kirigiri is dead OTL I swear that star-crossed lovers' tragic stories always make me cry... Naegi and Kirigiri's one isn't an exception...

I also didn't quite get what Tengan told Munakata, but as some people say, maybe he was talking in a more metaphorical sense, I guess (?)

Loved how Naegi "Sore wa chigau yo"-ed Munakata hahaha I agree that Munakata's hope wasn't the right one.

Also, Chisa really became a remnant of despair after all... Damn she pretended pretty well all this time then (she should be renamed as the Ultimate Actress lol). Could she really be the one that kills Chiaki in the end? Guess we'll have to wait until Thursday for that.

And lastly... Kodaka, why u show Jabberwock Island if u ain't showing us our SDR2 babies??? This is playing dirty.

PD. Now that I was thinking... what happened to Togami and Hagakure?
Sep 12, 2016 10:21 AM

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@taynis It's possible that there is no straight-up answer in Kirigiri's notebook, only decisive clues that have been misinterpreted by Asahina. She's not the sharpest tool in the shed as far as detective work, and she could have easily made a deduction error. Plus, I'm still suspicious of Mitarai, but I don't know what his involvment in the incident is.

@Dreams_of_Neko I thought of this Tengan scene as well. After the second sleeping period (the victim was Great Gozu), he indeed did not appear to be surprised that they survived. Did he somehow know beforehand that they were alive?
Sep 12, 2016 10:22 AM

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What we know so far :

- The Final Killing Game's cast has been concealed under the sea in a different but yet similar place than the Foundation Future's basement which collapsed onto Togami and his rescue team : How are they supposed to get out of this place ? How did they enter in it in the first place ?

- Yukizome Chisa, the first victim, who died was actually one of the remnants of despair, unless there's a Danganronpa 1 like trick, I would like to say it's safe to assume that she really died since the survivors countdown decreased from episode 1 to episode 2. Her NG Code was not having Munakata die. But who killed her ? Did she kill herself ?

- Bandai Daisaku was black so he had no choice but to be one of the first to die. His NG Code was not witnessing violence.

- Great Gozu was the second attacker's victim, why did they need to take such efforts to make this murder scene anyway ? His NG Code was getting pinned down to the ground for a three count.

- Based on what Tengan told Munakata, there are more than only one attacker, so what does attacker means in this context ? His NG Code was answering a question with a lie so we can't doubt what he said is true, however I don't think we should take what he said literally. He got killed by a mad Munakata.

- Izayoi was killed by Ruruka who made him eat a sweet, thus triggering his bracelet into injecting poison onto his body. She later used a knife found on Seiko body to make it look like he was murdered by the attacker.

- Kimura was the attacker's third victim, her NG Code was letting anyone walking on her shadow. I have no idea why they needed to put the victims' body attached on candles or walls instead of letting them laying on the floor, but it may not be important. Maybe could it be some signature which'd mean the attacker really is different each time ?

- Kizakura's NG Code was opening his left hand. No need to say I think his death was useless. But meh it's just my opinion.

- Gekkougahara Miaya was actually a remote-controled robot used by LiL' Monaca until she gave up on lurking the game. The real Gekkougahara-san was killed by Monaca before the game even began. It got cut in two halves by Munakata while it was in automatic mode. Its brain countains all NG Codes. Its was turning to the right, but I don't really think poison could kill a robot.

- Sakakura's NG Code is fighting barehanded, we have no confirmation about him dying so we can assume he actually is the one who survived in the previous episode's hecatomb.

- Ruruka Ando's NG Code was letting anyone escape, which explains her actions as to why she killed Izayoi and Kizakura. The attacker killed her in a brutal way, she is actually the only one laying on the floor as she died, rip.

- Kirigiri died because her NG Code was passing the fourth time limit with Naegi Makoto alive, thus letting her fans crying the saltiest tears. She apparently has left some book behind her to let Makoto finding out who the attacker is. But I wonder.. Did she really have that book with her in the first place ? Why did she left it instead of just telling Makoto and the others ? Isn't it a trap left by the mastermind to lead the survivors in the wrong path ? You know, Monokuma's done the same thing when Sakura committed suicide to trick Asahina into killing herself and her classmates.

- It was revealed Munakata's NG Code is opening a door, we knew it since episode 2 anyway xD

- Makoto's NG Code is running in the hallways, Asahina's is getting hit by a kick or a punch. We don't know which is Mitarai's yet.

- Also, the last mystery is why Monokuma doesn't show himself as a robotic teddy bear like he did in the two previous games ? Is he too lazy or is there a reason ?
Sep 12, 2016 10:22 AM
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XenoGeneiken said:
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Thank you very much for clarifying ^^ Hue >w<


It is also in the anime episode 11. You just didn't care about that scene back then probably.


That may be the case, or I think its because since I watched it last year, I tend to forget often... I do would need to re-check the episode and see it for myself of course.
Sep 12, 2016 10:24 AM

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OK, so here are the truth bullets of the episode!

- Survivor count: 6 people are still alive. At the very least, we know that Naegi, Asahina, Mitarai and Munakata are among them.

- Tengan's reasoning: every participant in the Final Killing Game is an attacker, even Naegi, Sakakura, Yukizome or himself.

- Kirigiri's notebook: Asahina found Kirigiri's notebook and read its content. She rushed to where Naegi was, claiming that thanks to Kirigiri's investigation, she and Mitarai figured out who "the attacker" is.

- Despair Yukizome: she was confirmed as a Remnant of Despair, as she was the culprit of a recent series of murder on children. She seems to have been able to conceal her true allegiance.

- Mitarai's NG code: it is the only one which is unknown.

Let's solve the last mysteries, guys!


1. Kirigiri might have survived by drinking the Ultimate Pharmacist's cure before being poisoned. It is possible that the cure only starts acting up after first symptoms of the poison kick in.
Sakakura might have survived thanks to Munakata's sword as its heat may have closed the wounds.
And it is possible that the actual culprit is hiding somewhere or just pretending to be dead

2. Tengan's "You could say..." means his words should not be taken at face values. You could also say that Sonia killed Saionji in SDR2 due to telling her where to find a large mirror.
The more interesting question is: why did he word it like that? Is he maybe one of actual Despairs whose goal was to turn Munakata into a homicidal maniac? Because that is what his words caused.

3. The notebook contains clues, and MAYBE a solution, to this whole mystery. But I doubt that it is a solution, that's probably just Asahina jumping in front of the train again. Basically, to the watcher this means "You have enough clues to solve the mystery, so do it before the next ep"

4. Yep, we knew she was a Despair since the lats ep of the Despair arc

5. My personal theory is that his NG code is "Kill someone at the end of each turn". He uses that phone of his, that he always keeps in his hands, to check the surveillances, wake up his victim and play the videos on the monitors. Funnily enough, that would make the game's rules fair and Munakata's scenario can't happen
This would also make Tengan's words more truthful: everyone kills themselves or they kill someone else. Thus, everyone is technically the culprit as they gave in to despair in one way or another, even though the actual Despair was the first to die.
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Sep 12, 2016 10:25 AM
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Yuunan said:
When the episode was out I was hypying like crazy, like I was even nervous XD

Loved to see one of the scenes of the first Dangaronpa game, when Naegi was in the underground trash


SO NAEGIRI WAS OFFICIALLY CONFIRMED (and excuse me if I didn't notice it was confirmed waaay back in the game but I saw it just as one of the fandom's ships) but the ship already sank because Kirigiri is dead OTL I swear that star-crossed lovers' tragic stories always make me cry... Naegi and Kirigiri's one isn't an exception...

I also didn't quite get what Tengan told Munakata, but as some people say, maybe he was talking in a more metaphorical sense, I guess (?)

Loved how Naegi "Sore wa chigau yo"-ed Munakata hahaha I agree that Munakata's hope wasn't the right one.

Also, Chisa really became a remnant of despair after all... Damn she pretended pretty well all this time then (she should be renamed as the Ultimate Actress lol). Could she really be the one that kills Chiaki in the end? Guess we'll have to wait until Thursday for that.

And lastly... Kodaka, why u show Jabberwock Island if u ain't showing us our SDR2 babies??? This is playing dirty.

PD. Now that I was thinking... what happened to Togami and Hagakure?


Let me point something out here:

1. I felt hyped when he mentioned "Sore wa Chigau yo!" in the episode. I fucking missed his line.

2. KODAKA HAS TO STOP COCK TEASING OUR BBY KIDS OF THE 2ND GAME COME ON.
;w; DON'T HURT US.

3. I never really shipped NaeGiri that much but after these two episodes... my heart was hurting so much like a trainwreck (in a good sense)

4. WHERE IS MY BOI BYAKUYA?
Sep 12, 2016 10:27 AM

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I think that we can safely say that the attacker isn't Neagi, Asahina, Ryota or Munakata. Asahina wouldn't have walked in and stated she knows who the murder is. If it was Ryota, she wouldn't have been able to get the notebook to Neagi and Munakata anyway.
I'm talking about the murderer in Kirigiri's notebook btw. What Tengan said was a bit too cryptic to be taken at face value. It's likely some kind of half-truth. Which makes Tengan is bit more suspicious.
I'm still leaning towards Kirigiri being alive, though Juzo is also a posibility, but everything is possible. It's just that the counter says 6 instead of 4. And while it has been 1 off for a while, it's 2 off now.

I really liked Neagi in this episode. It was really obvious how much he was hurting, and that he really was afraid of plowing on. But he did it anyway, because Kirigiri and Asahina were counting on him.
That battle with Munakata shows just how intelligent Neagi is, with the talk afterward showcasing his empathy.
While Munakata did do a lot of unforgivable shit, he was lead to believe that everyone was despair (And we know that Chisa, the most important person, really was one. And he knew this too). You'll have to remember that 'despair' basicly destroyed the world and killed off millions at the very least.
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Sep 12, 2016 10:30 AM

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Manecleis said:
@Dreams_of_Neko I thought of this Tengan scene as well. After the second sleeping period (the victim was Great Gozu), he indeed did not appear to be surprised that they survived. Did he somehow know beforehand that they were alive?


For me it gave the impression that in this game wasn´t supposed to be any killing, but then the victims had their hearts pierced. Not sure if the daggers were part of the plan or not. Ah, but I noticed some differences in the details of some episodes. Give me 5 minutes to upload them. I still can´t pinpoint the reason behind them.
Sep 12, 2016 10:33 AM
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I think that we can safely say that the attacker isn't Neagi, Asahina, Ryota or Munakata. Asahina wouldn't have walked in and stated she knows who the murder is. If it was Ryota, she wouldn't have been able to get the notebook to Neagi and Munakata anyway.
I'm talking about the murderer in Kirigiri's notebook btw. What Tengan said was a bit too cryptic to be taken at face value. It's likely some kind of half-truth. Which makes Tengan is bit more suspicious.
I'm still leaning towards Kirigiri being alive, though Juzo is also a posibility, but everything is possible. It's just that the counter says 6 instead of 4. And while it has been 1 off for a while, it's 2 off now.

I really liked Neagi in this episode. It was really obvious how much he was hurting, and that he really was afraid of plowing on. But he did it anyway, because Kirigiri and Asahina were counting on him.
That battle with Munakata shows just how intelligent Neagi is, with the talk afterward showcasing his empathy.
While Munakata did do a lot of unforgivable shit, he was lead to believe that everyone was despair (And we know that Chisa, the most important person, really was one. And he knew this too). You'll have to remember that 'despair' basicly destroyed the world and killed off millions at the very least.
What would you do if you find out your co-workers turned out to be basicly Hitler?


That question... I... really don't know if I find out about that. I would be shocked.
Sep 12, 2016 10:33 AM

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EtoileSosso said:

- The Final Killing Game's cast has been concealed under the sea in a different but yet similar place than the Foundation Future's basement which collapsed onto Togami and his rescue team : How are they supposed to get out of this place ? How did they enter in it in the first place ?


I want to add something to it: The one who built the FF's headquarters was Munakata. So he knew about the underwater building as well. It doesn't mean he was the only one who knew it tho. He could have revealed it to someone, like Chisa or Tengan (Sakakura seemed really surprised when he found out they were under the sea, so I guess he didn't know)

Sep 12, 2016 10:36 AM

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EtoileSosso said:
What we know so far :



- Did she really have that book with her in the first place ? Why did she left it instead of just telling Makoto and the others ? Isn't it a trap left by the mastermind to lead the survivors in the wrong path ?



Yup. It was shown a lot of times actually.
Sep 12, 2016 10:38 AM

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XenoGeneiken said:

Yup. It was shown a lot of times actually.]


Oh well, I guess I didn't pay much attention to it then xD
Sep 12, 2016 10:39 AM

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Manecleis said:
@taynis My first concern is the discrepancy between Tengan's reasoning and Asahina's deduction. The former claims everyone is an attacker when the latter seems to suggest that one person is the killer. Is it possible that these two claims do not contradict each other?

Yes, it is possible. If killer is chosen, by some kind of rule, then by knowing what is that rule, you can predict who will be chosen as next attacker.
Sep 12, 2016 10:39 AM

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JESUS FUCKING CHRIST! How do you end an episode like that? Kodaka, you bastard!

So Chisa is confirmed to be an Ultimate Despair... poor Chiaki, nothing good can come of this.

So there is not only one attacker, huh? That's a bit confusing to be honest, I hope they elaborate more next episode. But Tengan wasn't an attacker, since he admitted he wasn't a member of UD. But who was and is a Remnant of Despair inside the building?
And what is that 6 at the beginning of the episode? Could it be that Juzo, or maybe Kirigiri, is stil alive? Because there were 9 survivors last episode, and 2 definitely died, and between Kyouko and Juzo one died for real.

And what was that boat at the end of the episode? Did Hinata and the others defeat the fleet? Who is in that boat? And what are the planning to do? Something good, or something evil? By the looks of it it may not be something really positive... oh man, please Kodaka, are you really going to ruin the ending of SDR2?

Man, so many questions left unanswered. I hope everything is answered in the next episode... oh man, I can't wait.
Sep 12, 2016 10:40 AM

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That question... I... really don't know if I find out about that. I would be shocked.


Yep, as was Munakata. Unlike you (I assume), Munakata was already used to fighting what was for him 'basicly Hitler'. So he dealed with the situation the only way I thought he could. By murdering any despair, he would have likely killed himself if he was the last one standing.
The only kill I found unforgivable was Juzo (Even if we don't know for sure he's dead, Munakata still tried to do that).
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Sep 12, 2016 10:49 AM

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So, where Munakata got that photos of Chisa? o-o
Not saying this will be really relevant for the final mystery, but it bugs me anyway XD

Sep 12, 2016 10:54 AM

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So, where Munakata got that photos of Chisa? o-o
Not saying this will be really relevant for the final mystery, but it bugs me anyway XD


Either
1# On Chisa's body
2# The mastermind or killer placed them somewhere he'd find them.

The second one is more likely, especially if the goal was to push Munakata further into despair.
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TheLittleRedHero said:

That question... I... really don't know if I find out about that. I would be shocked.


Yep, as was Munakata. Unlike you (I assume), Munakata was already used to fighting what was for him 'basicly Hitler'. So he dealed with the situation the only way I thought he could. By murdering any despair, he would have likely killed himself if he was the last one standing.
The only kill I found unforgivable was Juzo (Even if we don't know for sure he's dead, Munakata still tried to do that).


Would make sense. xD

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So, where Munakata got that photos of Chisa? o-o
Not saying this will be really relevant for the final mystery, but it bugs me anyway XD


Actually I'm asking that as well. Where did he got those pictures?
Sep 12, 2016 10:57 AM

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THIS EPISODE WAS 100% FEELS
(I am still not sure tho like IS KIRIGIRI ALIVE OR?? I NEED MY DETECTIVE WIFE BACK ;^;;)
Sep 12, 2016 10:57 AM

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The best way to end an episode, a huge cliffhanger.

I want to see how Chisa being Ultimate Despair and started killing those children.

Still, 6 survivors. Nope, make Kirigiri remain dead and don't make an asspull. I'm trusting you, you fucking bracelet.


Sep 12, 2016 10:59 AM

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Okay, how exactly do we define the term 'attacker' anyway?

Is the attacker the same person as the mastermind? The person controlling Monokuma?
Is the attacker the person who wakes up during the sleep period and murders someone?
Is the attacker just someone who kills someone else for whatever reason?

Even if there are alternating 'attackers' during the sleep period, solving this mystery will not reveal the identity of the mastermind. And for the mastermind, I think we can rule Munakata out at this point.
Sep 12, 2016 11:02 AM

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Danganronpa 3 Mirai-hen Weekly Character Round-up:

Kyoko Kirigiri - Deceased(?)
Cause of Death: Poisoned by NG Code, possibly still alive due to Survivor Count
NG Code: Passing the fourth time limit with Makoto Naegi still alive

Kohichi Kizakura - Deceased
Cause of Death: Poisoned by NG Code
NG Code: Opening left hand

Sonosuke Izayoi - Deceased
Cause of Death: Poisoned by NG Code
NG Code: Eating food

Daisaku Bandai - Deceased
Cause of Death: Poisoned by NG Code
NG Code: Witnessing violence by participants

Chisa Yukizome - Deceased
Cause of Death: Sacrificed
NG Code: Kyosuke Munakata dying

Great Gozu - Deceased
Cause of Death: Sacrificed
NG Code: Being pinned to the ground for a three count

Seiko Kimura - Deceased
Cause of Death: Sacrificed
NG Code: Someone standing on your shadow

Ruruka Ando - Deceased
Cause of Death: Sacrificed
NG Code: Someone leaving the playing field

Juzo Sakakura - Deceased(?)
Cause of Death: Stabbed by Munakata, possibly still alive due to Survivor Count
NG Code: Fighting someone bare-handed

Kazuo Tengan - Deceased
Cause of Death: Throat slit by Munakata
NG Code: Telling a lie

Byakuya Togami - Deceased(?)
Cause of Possible Death: Killed in collapsing building, possibly now within the Killing Game due to Survivor Count
NG Code: N/A

Makoto Naegi - Active
Situation: With Asahina, Ryota and Munakata
NG Code: Running in the hallway

Aoi Asahina - Active
Situation: With Naegi, Ryota and Munakata
NG Code: Being hit with a punch or kick

Ryota Mitarai - Active
Situation: With Munakata, Naegi and Asahina
NG Code: ???

Kyosuke Munakata - Active
Situation: In the monitoring room
NG Code: Opening a door

Yasuhiro Hagakure - Active
Situation: Outside the wreckage of the real building
NG Code: N/A

Hidden 16th Member - Unknown
Situation: Unknown
NG Code: Unknown

Hidden 17th Member - Unknown
Situation: Could possibly be Byakuya, Juzo or Kirigiri as the Survivor Count goes to 6 instead of 5.
NG Code: Unknown
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At this point, if Chiaki ends up being involved in all of this, I would not be surprised the least. 6 people alive with only 4 people confirmed and not to mention something is up with Hinata and the others. The long wait till all the secrets get revealed is so Despair inducing...
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@Manecleis , sorry for the delay, photobucket is despairing.

While I was rewatching the episodes, I noticed that a couple of things have changed.

The conference room being one of them. That is probaly why Kizakura was there. When he previously said about seeing that girl, he maybe wasn't talking about Kyoko, but Chisa. Her corpse most likely. Notice that in Episode 2 the chairs have no arm rests, however, in episode 4, some have them.


Thought that it might be an error on the designing part, but then...



So....where are they really? Or is it the same place but different gamemasters?
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DarkHayate said:
Okay, how exactly do we define the term 'attacker' anyway?

Is the attacker the same person as the mastermind? The person controlling Monokuma?
Is the attacker the person who wakes up during the sleep period and murders someone?
Is the attacker just someone who kills someone else for whatever reason?

Even if there are alternating 'attackers' during the sleep period, solving this mystery will not reveal the identity of the mastermind. And for the mastermind, I think we can rule Munakata out at this point.


I think we can personally rule out Munakata, Naegi and Asahina.

Naegi is an obvious bet for not being the mastermind.

If Asahina was the mastermind, she would not have told them she knows the traitor's identity.

I think it's time for Munakata's redemption arc, so I believe he isn't the traitor.

But Ryota... He's been shady for a long time coming.
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I don't think you guys should think about Tengan as being "suspicious". His Forbidden Action was lying when asked a question, and he himself admitted he is not part of the Remnants of Despair.
The reason of his statement being so vague is that he may not be entirely sure about the truth. He knows the truth about the traitor, sure, but he doesn't know exactly who was or is the attacker, after all, is more than one person.
I don't think the names he mentioned were literally the attackers (no way Naegi is), but just an example that anyone could be the traitor.

I don't know, it's all so confusing, but next episode we'll probably know, since Asahina's got the notebook. Kirigiri, you were always so smart.
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As for the survivor count mystery, last episode featured four deaths:
- Mechagahara destroyed by Munakata ;
- Sakakura stabbed by Munakata ;
- Ruruka stabbed by the attacker ;
- Kirigiri poisoned due to NG code violation.

Last week, the count was 9 people. This episode, it was 6. Which means one of the four above didn't count as a death.

For what it's worth, we "know" Sakakura's NG code but it has actually never been officially confirmed, and it's pretty much the only one in this case.
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In season 1 of the anime, they never actually showed this scene from what I remember (hence I haven't really played the first game so anyone can confirm me on this if the scene was in the first game? And well... I guess I would get attacked for asking this question), but it was a pretty nice touch to the point where it gave a bit of a slim flashback between Kirigiri and Naegi, it was pretty nice to show around. I assume this is to showcase that Naegi only has his hope, and of course I guess that's when she started to understand him a bit.


Actually that flashback is from the episode 11 of the first season, still, the development of the chars in the first animation was close to inexistent tbh, check the game if you want good stuff about that matter.
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Dreams_of_Neko said:
@Manecleis , sorry for the delay, photobucket is despairing.

While I was rewatching the episodes, I noticed that a couple of things have changed.

The conference room being one of them. That is probaly why Kizakura was there. When he previously said about seeing that girl, he maybe wasn't talking about Kyoko, but Chisa. Her corpse most likely. Notice that in Episode 2 the chairs have no arm rests, however, in episode 4, some have them.


Thought that it might be an error on the designing part, but then...



So....where are they really? Or is it the same place but different gamemasters?


Hm? I didn't understand the two last pics...What are you trying to tell with that?
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@Dreams_of_Neko Interesting, though I believe those are design errors. That's the main reason why I don't really believe in the Chisahina theory that is going viral in the fandom.
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DarkHayate said:
Okay, how exactly do we define the term 'attacker' anyway?

Is the attacker the same person as the mastermind? The person controlling Monokuma?
Is the attacker the person who wakes up during the sleep period and murders someone?
Is the attacker just someone who kills someone else for whatever reason?

Even if there are alternating 'attackers' during the sleep period, solving this mystery will not reveal the identity of the mastermind. And for the mastermind, I think we can rule Munakata out at this point.


I think we can personally rule out Munakata, Naegi and Asahina.

Naegi is an obvious bet for not being the mastermind.

If Asahina was the mastermind, she would not have told them she knows the traitor's identity.

I think it's time for Munakata's redemption arc, so I believe he isn't the traitor.

But Ryota... He's been shady for a long time coming.


Ryota hasn't even revealed his forbidden action. Why hide it for so long? If his action wasn't relevant, he would have already revealed it. Definitely suspicious. However, he didn't say anything about Asahina discovering the attacker, he didn't even try to stop her, and Asahina sure as hell didn't seem scared of him. And he wasn't brainwashed by Junko in Despair Side (yet), so even though he is very suspicious, there are many reasons to believe he is not a traitor.
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Hmm ... the bad 'guy' could be Nanami, with Hinata now comming to stop her ... how about that xD?

I'm pretty sure the attacker kills with the monitors. They can probably extend some mechanical arms/tentacles. Every time before and/or after the sleep breaks, we could see atleast one of the monitors glowing stronger around the selected target.

Ofcourse, it could be just some Mitarai level anime tactics to boost the atmosphere...
Sep 12, 2016 11:20 AM

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So, right now we have three terms:

ATTACKER: The one killing people around.
TRAITOR: The one who betrayed FF and is helping the
MASTERMIND: The one who planned all of it

It doesn't mean one person can't be both or all of it, tho.

About Hagakure: Yeaaah, I know he is not using the bracelet, but he is still there and he appears in the opening. It could be just one big troll from Kodaka tho, buuut, I was just...trying to not forget about him XD

Perfect placed photos hah. Kirigiri checked Chisa's body before Munakata, so the photos were not on her body at that point (big assumption here). If that was the case, it was placed after Kirigiri checked her (It would make a lot of sense if it was on Chisa's body tho, Tengan talks to Munakata and then he goes to stab her). And, that would mean someone is walking around the building doing mischief...or I'm just overthinking again (it is the hype) o-o

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HyperL said:

Hm? I didn't understand the two last pics...What are you trying to tell with that?


About the eyes? The first one (episode 2) has the left "leg" elongated, while in the episode 3 one, it's the upper right side that is elongated instead.

@Manecleis I have rechecked the episodes, and until episode 2 the chairs are armless, after that, they have the arm rests. And i'm pretty sure because of the change in the Monokuma Eye design is what made Kirigiri stare at the monitor in episode 3. There is also the fact that at certain times in episode 2 and 3 that there was a close up of the monitors, like forcing us to pay attention to them.
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As for the survivor count mystery, last episode featured four deaths:
- Mechagahara destroyed by Munakata ;
- Sakakura stabbed by Munakata ;
- Ruruka stabbed by the attacker ;
- Kirigiri poisoned due to NG code violation.

Last week, the count was 9 people. This episode, it was 6. Which means one of the four above didn't count as a death.

For what it's worth, we "know" Sakakura's NG code but it has actually never been officially confirmed, and it's pretty much the only one in this case.


Well, Munakata has the list of all the codes. If Sakakura's code was something that would impact the plot, then Munakata might have noticed that. But I think he didn't, since he killed Juzo as a 'despair'.

Given that the count was always 1 off, even after Miaya turned out to be a robot and the real one dead. Only now it's two off, so I think that the mech did count.
Ruruka is pretty clearly dead, and from a meta standpoint it doesn't make sense if she was the survivor.
Meaning it's very likely either Juzo or Kirigiri. In a way, Kodaka is holding out hope for us. Giving us a reason to believe Kirigiri is alive, but he also gives a good chuck of despair at the fact that it could be Juzo who's alive. Not that I dislike Juzo, but come on who likes him over Kirigiri (besides MakotoXanyone else shippers)
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AzureAceYT said:


I think we can personally rule out Munakata, Naegi and Asahina.

Naegi is an obvious bet for not being the mastermind.

If Asahina was the mastermind, she would not have told them she knows the traitor's identity.

I think it's time for Munakata's redemption arc, so I believe he isn't the traitor.

But Ryota... He's been shady for a long time coming.


Ryota hasn't even revealed his forbidden action. Why hide it for so long? If his action wasn't relevant, he would have already revealed it. Definitely suspicious. However, he didn't say anything about Asahina discovering the attacker, he didn't even try to stop her, and Asahina sure as hell didn't seem scared of him. And he wasn't brainwashed by Junko in Despair Side (yet), so even though he is very suspicious, there are many reasons to believe he is not a traitor.


Well think about it. WHY is he so attached to that damn phone? It must be a part of his NG Code.
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So, right now we have three terms:

ATTACKER: The one killing people around.
TRAITOR: The one who betrayed FF and is helping the
MASTERMIND: The one who planned all of it

If this is the case, wouldn't Yukizome be the obvious choice for the traitor? She was aligned with Despair all along. I suppose she could have gotten a huge amount of information out of Munakata.

The attacker would be alternating everytime, if we interpret Tengan's words correctly. Perhaps Asahina will confirm this and give further explanation using Kirigiri's notebook.

The mastermind, well... I don't think it's Ryota. It would be too obvious, wouldn't it? That guy is a red herring for sure. The mastermind is most likely one of the 'hidden participants', indicated by the survivor counter.
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Damn Chisa is a really cruel despair. Playing with the kids just to butcher them and smile about it.

S A V A G E

Amazing episode, I'm really hyped for the next one. 5/5.



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I claim that either Juzo or Kyouko sorvives, because 4 people were killed in the last episode but the count went down by 3.


Robots aren´t people. Thats my point. ( and the core of that robot didn´t get destroyed either )
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I really enjoyed the final confrontation between Munakata and Naegi. Now they can work together to save everyone! I can't wait for the next episode :D
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@Dreams_of_Neko Hmm, I see your point, but what does it mean? Moving the players twice doesn't seem right at all; they probably don't have the means to do that anyway (one secret facility under the ocean is huge in itself, let alone two).

@Sirofcoffe It's also possible that the mech never counted, but it would be weird since it would require Hagakure to actually count.
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Heeee, 6 ?!
Ryota, Naegi, Asahina, Munakata, Hakagure ?, ???
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Robots aren´t people. Thats my point. ( and the core of that robot didn´t get destroyed either )

Human or not, I'm pretty sure she still counts as a participant though.

Remember Nidai? Although he was a robot, he was still a participant in the Mutual Killing Game in SDR2. Killing him still counted as murder.

And in Danganronpa 1, Alter Ego even got an execution despite being computer software! Considering this, I'm pretty sure Mecha-Gekkogahara is legitimately included in the survivor counter.
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nooo naegi don't cry ;____;

i wonder if what tengan said means that the victims were brainwashed and then killed themselves.. that theory has been going for a while and it would make most sense.

not sure what to make of the after credits scene tbh.


Chisa and Ruruka´s death, I can´t imagine them being suicides. Tengen said that anybody could be the killer, if the killings were suicides then it´s a contradiction.

I´m completely lost about the last scene as well. I can´t even tell if that ship was leaving or going to Jabberwock island. I just finally wanna see Munakata´s Peacekeeper Squad, I wonder what do they have to do with everything.

You also asked whether the evidence was tampered with some times. Well I found 3 times when it could´ve been possible: 1. Tengen´s death message - His dominant hand got cut, his neck nearly severed, his body completely pierced with a pipe. This is where I say, this guy wasn´t supposed to leave a dying message. The mastermind made it, or Monaca to cheer up Naegi.
2. Chisa´s photoes. - I don´t mean, that those photoes were forged, I do think they were real. But I don´t think that she was just carrying these photoes in her pockets. Most likely the killer put it in her pockets to show the truth to Munakata and make him desparate.
3. As you said Kyoko´s notebook. All of it may be forged and switched with the real one, or some parts added, so Asahina would think that she discovered the killer´s identity.
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I think the boat was leaving the island.


Chisa's death could be a suicide tho. She died before Monokuma talked about the rules, afterall. What is really weird too.

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And in Danganronpa 1, Alter Ego even got an execution despite being computer software! Considering this, I'm pretty sure Mecha-Gekkogahara is legitimately included in the survivor counter.


Okay, but she died in the last episode, so the DeathCount should indicate ''5 Survivors''
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kacaj said:
Chisa and Ruruka´s death, I can´t imagine them being suicides. Tengen said that anybody could be the killer, if the killings were suicides then it´s a contradiction.


How so? I don't see a contradiction here.
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HappyMN said:
Okay, but she died in the last episode, so the DeathCount should indicate ''5 Survivors''

Well, not necessarily. I'm still not convinced about neither Kirigiri's nor Sakakura's demise. A secret survivor would straighten the number on the counter.
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