Re:ZERO -Starting Life in Another World- (light novel)
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Rehls said: Yeah I think Subaru should've been shown to suffer injuries from their attacks. What are those sharp teeth for, anyway? But he suffered bites from them, both he and Rem, Ram. Those beasts simply went to killing Subaru, they obviously get mana by eating them too, so no need to worry, I guess. But suddenly they decided to spare kids only because author wanted to save shock moment for next episode. |
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Rehls said: That was confusing. But no, Subaru has much potential. He'll improve a lot. Otherwise there'd be no point. Potential only for Deus Ex Machina that will end this arc. And perhaps next arc they will randomly give him some powers because author can't think of more torture stories? |
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beast_regards said: I would send a message via pigeon mail or whatever they use to communicate. They surely have a way either by magic or trained animals. He does not have to go in person.also he knows where Beetlejuice's lair is so that info could be helpful in more than one way. It can be a bargaining chip or simply a way to mount a surprise attack. He is dumb.Which means a retard? :D Subaru is plot device, he makes stupid choices to advance the plot and pretty much all suffering he came through is self inflicted by his sheer stupidity. But I believe you can make actual thread "what would you do in Subaru position" - I am surprised no one tried to make one. |
fishpun said: she deserves to replace Emilia but the author is evil.stop :'( i've kind of accepted that rem's goinna die ~for realsies~ some time even if this is undone by a re-loop... *sigh* she deserves so much more than this BS |
| Did we finally reach a point at which Subaru has to make a decision? Obviously not. What did I think when I said that... Or has he? What a weird episode. Seriously just kill yourself already. Why is this taking so long... Does he not even have the power to kill himself anymore? Well at least we got to see Beatrice and Puck again. I guess that's a plus. Also could he actually bring back Rem by dying? Wasn't there something like the whale removes one from existence entirely? Is it powerful enough to keep people from "reviving"? edit: at this point I don't even know what say anymore. the complaints just repeat itself. every damn episode. it's random. it doesn't progress. now suddenly other people die when Subaru reveals his ability (made more sense anyway but at least stay with what you plan in the beginning...). And on top of that we'll lose valuable time of the next episode because Subaru still has to die. |
NanashiJul 25, 2016 1:28 PM
nightcrawlercyp said: I would send a message via pigeon mail or whatever they use to communicate. They surely have a way either by magic or trained animals. He does not have to go in person.also he knows where Beetlejuice's lair is so that info could be helpful in more than one way. It can be a bargaining chip or simply a way to mount a surprise attack. He is dumb.. I bet all pigeons would die of cancer suddenly if Subaru even though about sending message in some alternative mean. Whole world works under premise that he must suffer. Only good person left the city. Other person who can help are corrupted politicians and pretty much this show's variant of Jofrey from Game Of Thrones. |
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Rehls said: Nah. Very unlikely. Where will the Deux Ex Machina come from? I've a theory that Crusch is preparing an army to fight off the Whale. She was said to have been buying weapons. And the Whale had defeated an Astrea - Wilhelm's family member. Plus, it's threatening the people. And Crusch is militaristic. I am pretty much assume Crusch is preparing for war to take the throne by force. Anastasia is doing the same, so Emilia is screwed up because she don't have an army. |
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| If the end of episode 16 where otto forgets the merchants existence, and start of 17 where otto, ram, and Emilia forget rem during the occurrence of the white whale killing them. How does Otto know about the first Master Swordsman's life being taken if it gets killed by the white whale, his existence was erased? Which means that the master swordsman escaped and never returned or it is a temporary effect |
| Gosh I now I have no feel Both REM and Emilia, there is no impact at all, these stupid ass pull torture made me completely lose all empathy Betel is being interesting as usual, Otto is very interesting too he has done nothing wrong Can we have new MC? Its boring to watch Toyota being Toyota 2/5 |
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beast_regards said: Rehls said: Nah. Very unlikely. Where will the Deux Ex Machina come from? I've a theory that Crusch is preparing an army to fight off the Whale. She was said to have been buying weapons. And the Whale had defeated an Astrea - Wilhelm's family member. Plus, it's threatening the people. And Crusch is militaristic. I am pretty much assume Crusch is preparing for war to take the throne by force. Anastasia is doing the same, so Emilia is screwed up because she don't have an army. she got someone who can re-do events, that is better than an army imo. |
Rehls said: Crackdogrock said: Rem got deleted. Sad. Also we're nearing the end of the series. I wonder what it was all about in the first place. The story continues. It's the end of these arcs, only. 17/24 eps. It's close. |
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| this show is slowly getting worse and worse. -Subaru is still an unexplained retard -Rem's character which went from "decent" to "just in love with subaru for no reason" is now just "rem died, please cry" -Emilia died because of return by death. what. why? Is it Emilia specifically cause he tried it with her the most? Would it happen to anyone because he kept saying it a lot already? Can the MC just go up to Betelgeuse and do it? What the fuck? |
| every single one of my forum posts is dumb and invalid except for 1, I don't claim them it was a different person it was all fake |
| At first Subaru didn't want to die and later he wanted somebody to kill him. This broke my heart ..>: |
| THAT'S A DANG SCARY WHALE. Seriously, what an intense way to start is what I was thinking, but then I looked at the time and realized half the episode was over by the time things finally settled down. And even after settling down, it was still a total mess, I mean, what the heck, he finally survives and people live, but now Rem has been completely erased, and people die anyway. Then the credits music started playing on piano and I felt like crap. It was nice too see Beatrice again though. Good episode, but I'm seriously waiting for things to start getting better, but everything just keeps getting worse and worse. Also Puck is freaking terrifying when he mad. |
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| So, aparently the whale erases the existance of anyone it kills. I hope that people knowing about the whale is actually explained (and people remembering the knight who was killed by it). Emilia dying was somewhat shocking but the scene lacked impact, at least for me. At the end I was really hoping Subaru would tell Betelgeuse he can return from death, but it seems he is too shocked to realize what he can do. It could be the kind of arbitrary think that kills whoever is most convenient though, so maybe if he does that he would die. Seems like next episode will be great, can't wait. |
| I just realized, was Emilia killed by those unseen hands? |
hpsthemaskedman said: Did he said that.It suppose to be. I do not care anymore, I'll be driving out the whole thing even if I have to spit blood though. (Sorry i don't use English Subtitle I use my own Language Subtitle and that's how if translated into English) No, that's how the situation should be interpreted. He was too stressed. So he gave up. He wasn't afraid of being permanent killed this time. Because even death would've been better than all this suffering. SuperKirei said: This episode felt predictable and it gave more question than answers. 2/5 - Making this the highest rated episode yet, but that is probably because of this:  That dislocated shoulder gave comic effect to this scene, hah. Must've been what the animators wanted. They'd have animated differently, if they wanted a more serious tone to it. |
removed-userJul 25, 2016 5:18 PM
| Wow, 20 pages already? Wow, people discussing and arguing... some saying the show is crap and others praising it. I read somewhere "Learn to write and read a story", apply it with this series. There's ton of development going on here but somehow some of you overlook it. Saying that Subaru is the worst and annoying. He's going through death after death, losing people important to him and not being able to do a thing about it. Some of you say that he should do this and that and get over with it, it's so easy to say it when you don't suffer a PTSD of this degree. Not even Emilia can understand Subaru, only him understands what he's going through but he can't explain it, he can think, he can't talk... because of the immense FEAR. This guy that told Emilia "I can go back from death" was already prepared to die, he wanted to go back and save Rem, the one that nor Emilia or even her sister Ram remembered anymore. Now those hands that made him feel the most deep fear he would ever experience, did not kill him as he intended them to, but went for Emilia's heart instead, knowing that it would cause him a greater pain that he couldn't escape from and punish him for his arrogance. After that, of course he wanted Beatrice to kill him, that was ENOUGH, it was not hypocritical, it was him grasping the only way out he knew of to bring them back... to die, and start again... at least they would be alive. People, this story is building something big. This episode left me with so much questions, well structured questions. I'm enjoying every bit of it, but at the same time feeling sad for Subaru, who's just already broken inside. Leave out your narrowed views of your ideal MC that makes everything perfect. We are watching a MC that is reflecting what any of us would feel in a situation like that. Those are very HUMAN reactions. |
Buck_Wade said: If he could just succeed in getting out of a loop, have at least a few days (does he even get a day?) where someone isn't dying in some new and horrible way, then Subaru would probably slowly recover. As of now, he keeps trying different routes to the mansion, leading to more bad stuff happening, screwing with his head more, leading him to act more irrationally in a situation that's already bombed. I know right? Subaru's story right now is like constant BAD END (From Visual Novels, you select a bad option and that leads to your death), like, you die because you didn't go to the store to buy milk instead of feeding the dog, for example. Every action could lead to a potential death, and not even knowing what to do, how to do it and why, could tear anyone apart. Everything he has done so far has led up to loosing his loved ones. And then people say he's annoying for not thinking straight. The time spawn of those events it's too short, leading to a severe mental breakdown for Subaru. Add to that the fact the he doesn't have anywhere to talk with. Another example that works for comparison is |
HumbertoZeroJul 25, 2016 5:34 PM
KurosoraRyuga said: Damn. I hope we get to see betelguese's back story yes indeed, it became quite interesting to find out that crazy guy also has the same invisible hands power that send Subraru to this world. a little more in the background story will help viewers learn where the hell that power came from, and if it's anything related to the stinky witch the have made reference in so many episode and yet we have not seen any trace of that legendary witch that everyone is afraid of in that world. |
Rehls said: Andes-Chucky said: I just realized, was Emilia killed by those unseen hands? Hm? It was by Satella's gift. what do you mean? I'm talking about the scene when Emilia vomits blood in front of Subaru. |
Andes-Chucky said: what do you mean? I'm talking about the scene when Emilia vomits blood in front of Subaru. The "Hand" that "squeezes" Subaru's heart every time he's about to talk about his return by death killed her instead of him. Why? Because Subaru intended it to kill him (permakill him, if possible), but it was like "Ah, you are going to use me? There, there, I won't harm you.... instead..." and crushes Emilia's heart instead, hurting Subaru in a way we couldn't avoid. Call it like scolding him for being so arrogant regarding telling the truth that he was in previous occasions warned of not telling. |
Shinobu-Oshino said: this anime is crap of course it is. because it's not your cute girl shows. |
hpsthemaskedman said: HDarkmantis said: but how they can become important for subaru? Are they his close friend? Are they his family? what he considers them important only because of the coincidence meeting? The Story was bullshit,even when I see the main character suffers any number of times. What I see is mainly the story was full of holes with a Stupid MC.I know right? Subaru's story right now is like constant BAD END (From Visual Novels, you select a bad option and that leads to your death), like, you die because you didn't go to the store to buy milk instead of feeding the dog, for example. Every action could lead to a potential death, and not even knowing what to do, how to do it and why, could tear anyone apart. Everything he has done so far has led up to loosing his loved ones. And then people say he's annoying for not thinking straight. The time spawn of those events it's too short, leading to a severe mental breakdown for Subaru. Add to that the fact the he doesn't have anywhere to talk with. Another example that works for comparison is Aren't most friendships formed out of coincidence meetings? |
hpsthemaskedman said: but how they can become important for subaru? Are they his close friend? Are they his family? what he considers them important only because of the coincidence meeting? The Story was bullshit,even when I see the main character suffers any number of times. What I see is mainly the story was full of holes with a Stupid MC. There's a reason why Rem fell for Subaru, what he did for her. There's a reason Emilia considers Subaru a friend, what he did for her. Add to that that Subaru likes Emilia. Remember all the time they have spended together, of course he want them to LIVE and not die dismembered. |
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