Danganronpa 3: The End of Kibougamine Gakuen - Mirai-hen Episode 2 Discussion

SirKurt said:


He threw a blade at Makoto. I think he still tries to kill Makoto. Also knowing him (2+1 episodes so far but he is so stereotypic character) he would kill Makoto anyways even if it meant his own death.

I go with the "SHSL Scout is the traitor" theory. Then again, there is the possibility that Alter Ego Junko actually uploaded herself into Makoto, Byakuya or Kyoko.

Also I think there is a possibility that Ultimate Imposter is hidden among them and he (she?) is the traitor.

One important thing to notice is, Junko will be coming back. It may be through computer, necromancy, reincarnation, ressurection, "actually she is not dead" setting etc... Figuring out how it will be is the key to solve this.

AzureAceOfficial said:


I would doubt it, he isn't a part of this killing game. At least that's what we think right now.

Doubt it, Ultimate Imposter is DEAD, don't you remember? Well at least comatose (DR2 ring a bell?)
Junko may be the antagonist again *sigh* She's just like a cockroach, she just keeps coming back...Though I hope neither of them turn out to be the protagonist....The Despair kids from DR2 being the antagonists would kill me on the inside, hopefully that's not the case.

SirKurt said:

I don't think that's the case since both times we saw the imostor in action, both times he was extremely fat even though he posed as skinny people. Also he's probably still comatose on the island


I think this counter will stay the same throughot the show sine having it be off 1 person all the time will be extremely suspicious

SirKurt said:

I don't think that's the case since both times we saw the imostor in action, both times he was extremely fat even though he posed as skinny people. Also he's probably still comatose on the island


I think this counter will stay the same throughot the show sine having it be off 1 person all the time will be extremely suspicious

I wouldn't say so. No one had noticed it really until WeebyNewz did, from what I seen. Plus it'll be going down by two this time so that'll confuse people and suede them away from the fact that there's 1 extra survivor.

Skeeturz said:
My two faves dead this episode, WTF~

I like the updated OP, it looks more stylish, I was so certain Kirigiri was gonna die though, the noose imagery in the OP and ep title "Hang the Witch"?! I've been played and played good.

Still incredibly suspicious of Yukizome, her imagery in the OP is her slitting her wrist, but she's too obvious a suspect, but that's also really suspicious

Yodeler said:
I feel like I'm missing something. So if the killer wins the game by everyone else dying, why wouldn't he/she just murder everyone while they're asleep in one go as opposed to one at a time?

willardhwright said:


That or Hagakure count somehow. Which would be an even biggr "wut?"



It's been a while so I'll still ask; aren't the despair kid supposed to be into coma?

coolyoyo33 said:
To bring D E S P A I R.

Andrewapps said:


Most of them. Hajime, Fuyuhiko, Sonia Nevermind, The Ultimate Mechanic (forgot his name) and Akane made it out, though. With Nagito's Ultimate Luck, he's probably back too...

But there are more Remnants of Despair out there, so who knows...

willardhwright said:

It's been a while so I'll still ask; aren't the despair kid supposed to be into coma?

AzureAceOfficial said:


If there were more, I think Naegi would have rounded them up when he rounded the 77th Class up.

Andrewapps said:


If he had, the war between Despairs and the Future Foundation would have been over already. There are still quite a few Despairs left, those we know about and those that have yet to be revealed (such as the traitor). An example would be Monaca Towa who was the main antagonist of Ultra Despair Girls (the one people think is the Ultimate Therapist in disguise).

Andrewapps said:
Miaya, Seiko, and Munakata are my three guesses at the traitor. I really hope it isn't Maiya, as she was the creator of Usami, AI Chiaki Nanami and the Neo World Program (from DR2). I've pinpointed Seiko as the possible traitor as none of the known Despair Remnants are skilled with poisons (to my knowledge), and what she gave to the Ultimate Farmer... one could assume it was an antidote, but should she know how to counter the poison? I'll be honest on the third one, I just really want Munakata to die. He indirectly causes this mess, tries to kill Naegi on several occasions and pushes everyone else against him. Screw him.

The Ultimate Wrestler guy is also suspicious for how he treated Naegi without knowing his forbidden action, but who knows... seems like a cool dude for now.

Poor Naegi, though... just like the first game he is the main suspect from day 1 after losing his friend and is treated like shiz for it. Please let Naegi and Kirigiri survive this XD

AzureAceOfficial said:


The attacker's only allowed to kill one person at a time as per the rules.

"Rule #2 The Attacker. While you're asleep, one attacker will wake up. The Attacker will be given a time limit to within which to kill exactly one person"

coolyoyo33 said:

Forgot about that heh, Though I'm still confused whether the attacker is a random person each time since it seems to be hinting towards that or just one person. 'One attacker' sounds like a random person but it could also mean one definitive person so yeah...

coolyoyo33 said:
To bring D E S P A I R.

AzureAceOfficial said:


I think it's random each time. Because in the Monokuma Hunter game he only said "one attacker" never specifying "THE attacker/traitor" plus when he played the game, it was Kirigiri's silhouette that killed Chisa.

Rayster said:
Anyone noticed this too? It's just funny everyone has a round bracelet while Hagakure has a beads one. Makes him different from the OP :P

coolyoyo33 said:
Also one person is really really confusing me right now, Byakuya. People are saying that he was last spotted in DR AE but people are seemingly forgetting the SECOND GAME where he appears in the end in co-operation with Naegi and Kirigiri, He was also seen heading back with the both of them on the Yacht in the end of the game so where the hell did he disappear to?

Also the second game definitively takes place after DR AE as Nagito is still out and about in DR AE. Just confused as to why this hasn't been brought up.

blooddrunk said:
I guess you could say Asahina was...

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Asahinated.

YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

coolyoyo33 said:
Also one person is really really confusing me right now, Byakuya. People are saying that he was last spotted in DR AE but people are seemingly forgetting the SECOND GAME where he appears in the end in co-operation with Naegi and Kirigiri, He was also seen heading back with the both of them on the Yacht in the end of the game so where the hell did he disappear to?

Also the second game definitively takes place after DR AE as Nagito is still out and about in DR AE. Just confused as to why this hasn't been brought up.

Tobi said:
Why did they kill Bandai!? He was so precious and adorable!

Ragna92 said:
Why kill off Asahina.

AzureAceOfficial said:
Wait a minute... I just noticed...

If we're in the Future Foundation building... Why is every monitor frame a Monokuma monitor...?

SirKurt said:


This is the frustrating part for me. We don't know how much time has passed since then or what happened to SDR2 characters. We can guess there has been 4 years since the events of DR1 and 1.5 years since DR2. He might also lose weight.

This is the vague ending of the SDR2:



Anyways, it was just something I posted as a possibility. It is very unlikely and not worth defending that much.

Most of them. Hajime, Fuyuhiko, Sonia Nevermind, The Ultimate Mechanic (forgot his name) and Akane made it out, though. With Nagito's Ultimate Luck, he's probably back too...

But there are more Remnants of Despair out there, so who knows...

willardhwright said:


Because she was one of the nicest remaining, probably, since maid-chan was the first one




For the same reason the hole made by the knife that was thrown in ep1 isn't here anymore. Kirigiri didn't look at the corpse probably because of rules) but the ep clearly shows her noticing this.

AzureAceOfficial said:


I know I want to believe they're somewhere else. But it's impossible to move 15 people without the outside noticing. Hagakure would've noticed and got on the phone to at least Byakuya or another FF base right away.

willardhwright said:


To be honest the "bunch of idiots" reminds me awfully of him. But it's not enough at all to be enough of an evidence for a theory. But yeah.

coolyoyo33 said:
He's the only thing about this series that seems out of place, since he seemed to be heading back with Naegi/Kirigiri but suddenly disappeared when they got to headquarters? Very confused, If he's the mastermind, it would be very absurd honestly. Especially since he's not mentioned in the character list or even hinted at in the OP, Though he is the ONLY one who is not present and knows about the events of DR2 besides returning DR1 charas and the DR2 cast, which means he'd know Monomi, though the attitude of Monokuma could NEVER fit Byakuya so him even trying to act a bit like monokuma would be heavily off character unless something DID happen between the events of DR2 and DR3.

willardhwright said:


I don't relieve believe it either, but if this happens after ADG, it would be strange for him not to be here even as a cameo since they even took the time to put Hagakure (who isn't exactly the most relevant character plot-wise)

I can totally see him coming later and bitch-slapping Narukami about how he believe he is "the rational one" though.

EarlCiel said:


Yes, her traits that are similar to Monoka raise flags for me too, but at times I think they might actually be red herrings. It seems all a little too masked for a good reason such as how her voice actress is not mentioned, the class she graduated is not mentioned. I think you make a very good point in that all these "mysterious" traits about her are all obvious ways to hide her identity. I would argue even the scarf might be intentionally there to block more of her face and hide. So it makes me think that she can be one of two people in disguise: Monoka or Nanami Chiaki (the real one). None of their actual whereabouts has been addressed yet, so that's why I chose these two.

She remains suspicious, however she is sort of giving me strange vibes...


But it does indicate importance of their role. Which is why many people feel like Chisa is not dead, and therefore the traitor. Personally, I think that even if she did fake her death, that doesn't necessarily make her guilty. Just because Gekkogahara looks and acts a little too innocent, I think all we can really do is continue to watch her interactions.

I think this game really questions the judicial stance of "innocent until proven guilty" since it is often the ones that are actually guilty that feign innocence...and there's BARELY any evidence against this person since they're extremely good at faking innocence and covering up after themselves. In this case, you're innocent unless someone can find an ounce of evidence against you, and if you're really good u cover ur tracks completely. That's why I think if someone in a time of chaos can stay somewhat composed + collected, they are trying so hard not to make one wrong move. Trying a little too hard.



I noticed this scene in the episode too, and I definitely agree with you. It was not random for him to go and point at her. As I explained above (in my other response), she definitely has certain traits that draw people to her even though her 'personality' is one that gets hidden by other vibrant, very bold characters. I think that the fact that you pointed out that how Koichi is great at assessing people's talents and true character points at one truth for me. Which I'll have to thank you for. Gekkougahara is not who she claims to be. Her name, and her disguise is all set up to hide who she really is.

I think that's all we can really conclude from Koichi's accusation. They literally just started the game and are still confused about what's going on. Koichi acts on intuition, and it tells him that this person in front of him is full of lies. This causes him to point at her as the traitor, but this doesn't necessarily point at the fact that Gekkougahara is, indeed, the traitor. Just that it's not her true character. I think that based on what we know so far, there is really one person who I think she really is:


We have to remember that Gekkougahara is probably one of the few people in the future foundation that actually believe Naegi is innocent. Why would she not? She helped create the program, and was probably aware of it when Naegi used it to try and help save the Remnants of Despair. It's true that the killer would try to side with Naegi to appear less suspicious to US, but to Naegi he most likely trusts Gekkougahara due to this fact.

People are talking about how Miaya stays way too close to Naegi, which adds suspicion to her character, however I think she is trying to protect him from up close in some way. Most people would point fingers and believe she is Monaka, however I am not fully convinced the similarities to Monoka are red herrings. I believe that this game probably actually took quite some time to prepare, and I would argue that according to the official Danganronpa timeline, Monoka would not have been able to join the Future Foundation since she is a kid...in elementary school and she had to have SOME role in creating the Neo World Program. I believe it's a known fact that although Miaya is mysterious, one known fact of her by the future foundation (which causes them to trust her) is that she worked on this program. These are the reasons against people who suspect her of being Monaka.

coolyoyo33 said:
just saying that ultra despair girls took place before danganrompa 2 and byakuya DID appear in that game where in the end they all got on the yacht and went back to ff, one big factor that would put some pieces of the puzzle back together is How much time is between this and danganronpa 2

Miaya said:


Yes I would like to know too how much time exactly is between this and SDR2 because they didnt even talk about the survivors of DR2 and I wonder what happened to them.

coolyoyo33 said:
kodaka said there wouldn't be any further information on the DR2 cast and that this series was only to finish the whole DR franchise off (At least that's what I heard)

Miaya said:


Yes I would like to know too how much time exactly is between this and SDR2 because they didnt even talk about the survivors of DR2 and I wonder what happened to them.

willardhwright said:


Yup, I was saying this because if this happened during ADG then you can explain the fact that Togami isn't there. (it was a common explanation for the reason he isn't there). But since it happens after ADG (and therefore the above part doesn't apply); which is certain since Naegi is here because of the events of DR2, he SHOULD be "free".

coolyoyo33 said:
I'm sorry but I don understand what you mean by free, do you mean able to help the trapped people in some way?

azure7 said:


I think he's with Fukawa and Komaru in Towa city

poptartnyan said:


Yup!

If you play "DanganRonpa: Another Episode" it shows you exactly what him and Toko are doing this very moment!
Basically Toko and Togami are busy...and will be busy probably for the rest of this anime.