Re:Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu Episode 1 Discussion

Jagd84 said:

It's amazing how inconsiderate and unrealistic some people think others should act when they are in beyond horrible critical situations.

Jagd84 said:

She literally said one line and he was dead in secs and in shit load of pain. Are guys serious? How can anyone even say something like this when somebody is DYING? The only he could even think about was Satella beyond the pain! It's like even he would even comeback. Holy hell he's not a robot.

Jagd84 said:


Okay your seriously stretching this. I'll put plain, no matter how genre savvy someone my might be from watching TV or reading manga there no way in hell any of that willever prepare you for going through it first hand. Reading Berserk won't turn into stone cold badass who can fight and deal with demons in anyway shape or form. The one of key points the first episode has trying to make is that his meta-knowledge means shit in this world.

If you suddenly die in one moment then suddenly come back the next you aren't going to rational or come to terms with it just like that period, hell you won't WTF is going on. So yes being confused in the beginning, is an entirely normal reaction.

Jagd84 said:
Except those holes are just your opinions. He's situation isn't logical or rational. Don't expect him some detach reasoning process for what is downright absurd on any level. It's not like he's been reviving all his life or had any experience with this before. It's perfect reasonable he didn't remember given how fast everything went and the fact he was dying and doesn't understand anything all of that came about. No normal person going to want think too much about it that after such a surreal, horrific and muddled experience. The fact your still trying he should be doing this and ignoring his trauma and how insane everything show that you are in fact being inconsiderate towards him. It nuts if he sudden under everything all at once.

I'd agree with you if he were acting like that after his second or third death or something, but not his first when whole experience was disorienting as hell. Again his situation isn't rational so I don't expect him to make sense of anythings that are happening to on the first go. I don't why you trying make this complicated.

EzDragOn said:


My main problem with the Subaru is that he should at least have a basic amount of common sense. He goes back to the bar in the shady area where he remembers dying, but he doesn't even bring a companion, weapon or anything to defend himself. Literally every person of significance has had weapons or special abilities to defend themselves. Subaru has even had to prostrate himself because a common street thug pulled out some swords. What if the thief or bar owner wasn't all nice and friendly towards his inquiry? Subaru doesn't know the customs or culture of the new world he's in; he could have died even faster.

He's also really nonchalant about telling why he wanted the badge to complete strangers without even thinking about it. The thief was the person who stole from Satella in the first place, and the other girl was competing to get the badge for purposes unknown to him. There's absolutely no reason to tell potential enemies this information.

awditty said:
Brits & Americans really don't get this about the Japanese:

http://iteslj.org/Lessons/Trabich.-Travel.html

awditty said:
these comments on how reading can prep you for anything make me LOL

Sapewloth said:
And like I already told you several times, my complaint has nothing to do with Subaru not being a "stone cold badass" who's prepared to face anything and everything (no one should be prepared to be sent to another world and even less to get killed, that much is not in question, the first post you replied to made that clear).
What my problem is, is that if being sent to another world left MC-kun unfazed to the point of even being to adapt himself as well as he did in the first timeline, then the idea of time travel/time loop shouldn't be so outlandish that it wouldn't cross his mind once until well after his second rerun, even though plenty of obvious important details were presented to him throughout the entire episode 1B.
Being confused is perfectly fine. Glossing over every single clue as to what might've happened to make his second death as unexpected/shocking as possible isn't: it's weird and makes me question what the author really intended for his protagonist to be. I have an issue with consistency, not with what i wanted MC to do or what I would've done in his place.

PS: also, his self awareness does certainly mean shit: thanks to his clever use of it he was able to enter negotiate with Felt and Elsa and as a result learn about the existence of metia (which will certainly become an important element later on). Sure he doesn't know the specificities of this particular world, but his basic knowledge and his smarts did come in handy.

eso18 said:
The very ending was well obvious development which I expected before the second death but it made me unlike that silver haired girl even more. I don't think I will be able to like her while watching this series. To me she is ticking bomb that will make this show become really bad, but hopefully that won't happen and reading a little of the comments with the story becoming Darker and darker, I can have some hopes right?

Aurelion_Sol said:
^THIS. I hate how the MC in the first part seemed slightly smart and composed and even had knowledge/exceptions of parallel universe, but in the second part he completely lost his marbles and didn't think straight but to go after Satella. First impression of the MC = bad.

Breadsticks said:
I have seriously high hopes for this adaptation! As a reader of the manga, the visuals, sound, and pacing really left a big impression on me. That ED song fits so perfectly with the theme of the series.

I believe you'll do great things with this White Fox!

NeoRevan said:
Re-Watching this with a friend, showing it to another friend, and I have two thoughts... A) Wasn't the emblem stolen before he arrived, and yet at the end, when he revives in front of the fruit stand(after he had arrived) the emblem had yet to be stolen? B) Roman's death in the first cycle is almost identical to his death in the second. What do these two things mean? There are other things I've noticed that shouldn't be here, but I can notice these patterns, but am having a hard time putting them all together...(Also I expect all of these things have already been mentioned)

Ryuutobi said:
A) The emblem was just stolen & the girl was chasing the culprit in the first meeting. At that time, Subaru had done a lot of things after his arrival, hadn't he?
B) The assassin woman is just a sicko who loves to disembowel her victims. See how she enjoys pulling out Subaru's innards & admires their "beautiful" colors.

NeoRevan said:
A) No, it clearly shows that as soon as he arrives, Fledt is running along the roofs, admiring the insignia. He then goes to the Fruit Merchant after a little while. Later, he re spawns at the fruit merchant, a point well after his initial arrival, and Feldt steals it then(At that later point)
B) But her love of disemboweling makes it all the more odd because it was clearly a neck/head wound that was censored. His pose when he was dead was also oddly similar.

Ryuutobi said:
A) You're right. The animators clearly made a grave mistake there. To begin with, it's plain impossible for the half-elf girl to keep track on a fleeing Felt for more than a minute.
B) Watch it again. In the first time he died, he grabbed his stomach as he was falling down, then he saw his hand just to find it full of blood. He then coughed up some blood & the girl entered the scene right after. In his second death as well, Elsa cut only his abdoment. All the attacks on his other body parts are either a punch or a kick.

NeoRevan said:
A) I don't know where Half-Elf comes into this discussion, but Subaru arrives in the world. Felt is running on the roofs with the emblem. Subaru wanders around for a little bit and then comes to the fruit merchant. Later Cycles, Subaru starts at the Fruit merchant, and we see Felt steal the emblem then. I suppose the most logical explanation is that Subaru came back before he entered the world, but that doesn't quite mesh either.

Ryuutobi said:
That's why I called that part a mistake by the animators. If Felt did already get the emblem at that time, then she would've totally lost the half-elf girl when Subaru was being attacked by that thugs. In fact, she should've lost her a few minutes prior. That's just how fast she is compared to that girl.

Ryuutobi said:
That's why I called that part a mistake by the animators. If Felt did already get the emblem at that time, then she would've totally lost the half-elf girl when Subaru was being attacked by that thugs. In fact, she should've lost her a few minutes prior. That's just how fast she is compared to that girl.

Fappa said:
Light novel reader here. Personally I thought the adaptation was extremely well done. I'm really happy they went with the longer first episode because with that they can show the viewer what this show is really about.

If people thought this will be your generic "another world fantasy harem" then they know that this isn't the case at all by now.

It's death, suffering and oh even more death. The author is known to be one hell of a sadist and he shows this in the story all the freaking time. I'm not even exaggerating with that. There were times where I just wanted to hit him for the things he does to the characters. And it only gets worse and worse I mean there were some parts that were disturbing to read, well what I could translate with my broken Japanese. I'm not surprised that some Japanese can't take reading the novels. They work for a very long time and then reading this really dark and depressing story in your free time isn't for everyone.

Anyway the adaptation seems really high quality, I guess this has a huge budget and people that know what they're doing. At least I have the impression because of the longer first episode and the overall pace which is great.

I'm just so happy that this is 2 cour with at least 24 episodes. This gives the show even more potential. I know it has it due to the source material but it now depends on White Fox and the staff to bring that across in a correct way.

But people already guess the right direction. It definitely has some aspects from Steins;Gate as well as All you need is kill.

Definitely the strongest first episode besides BNHA for me :)

I'm craving for more "Suffering - The anime"


Edit: @Stark700 I think you should not call her by that because we don't know that yet at this point except they left this aspect out

Luthandorius said:
After episode 1 I really can't understand why this is rated that high. I already watched 2 other shows which are fantasy with an own fantasy world: Seisen Cerberus and Endride.

Dropped Seisen Cerberus because it was boring and I did not like the chars. Endride was a bit better.

But this seemed boring after the 1st episode. Not much happened and the boy and half-elf girl are boring. Hopefully the thief girl will get more screentime and not that many death resets. That could get boring fast.

Atm its only interesting for girls that love the halfelf girl and have erotic phantasies with her. Or for people that like the violence.

Let's see if it gets better. Watching episode 2 later. Hoping for more background info on the world/political system there at least and some more interesting chars (especially some more male chars, not only female - so it won't turn into harem).

Luthandorius said:
After episode 1 I really can't understand why this is rated that high. I already watched 2 other shows which are fantasy with an own fantasy world: Seisen Cerberus and Endride.

Dropped Seisen Cerberus because it was boring and I did not like the chars. Endride was a bit better.

But this seemed boring after the 1st episode. Not much happened and the boy and half-elf girl are boring. Hopefully the thief girl will get more screentime and not that many death resets. That could get boring fast.

Atm its only interesting for girls that love the halfelf girl and have erotic phantasies with her. Or for people that like the violence.

Let's see if it gets better. Watching episode 2 later. Hoping for more background info on the world/political system there at least and some more interesting chars (especially some more male chars, not only female - so it won't turn into harem).