Re:ZERO -Starting Life in Another World- (light novel)
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| I really like that scene at the end of 1B with sotaru looking bewildered with that music playing... keep replaying that part |
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| I'm surprised by the lack of salt by Mushoku Tensei fans that all these 'reincarnated in parallel world' anime keep getting made but they still got no adaptation. Probably better that way, because it would ultimately get butchered, but this show seems to be doing fine so far, so who knows? |
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Jerkhov said: Mushoku Tensei has many issues. There isn't a clear stop point for a good anime adaptation. It would be a shame to not see animated in its entirely.I'm surprised by the lack of salt by Mushoku Tensei fans that all these 'reincarnated in parallel world' anime keep getting made but they still got no adaptation. Probably better that way, because it would ultimately get butchered, but this show seems to be doing fine so far, so who knows? |
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Jerkhov said: I'm surprised by the lack of salt by Mushoku Tensei fans that all these 'reincarnated in parallel world' anime keep getting made but they still got no adaptation. Probably better that way, because it would ultimately get butchered, but this show seems to be doing fine so far, so who knows? Mushoku Tensei anime would need to have a high budget and would need to adapt the whole thing in one go. Plus I can already so many small things getting cut out or rushed and the backlash from the causal community would be high at some parts. But I'd be lying if I said I didn't want to see Orsted-sama in action. |
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| Approaching this from a character design perspective specifically (I rate this anime a 10 to start out, and I know I'm going to like it regardless)... The background characters seem to have so much personality to them. There's so much variety, and the majority of them use natural colorations with few exceptions. The dog-folk alone are shown young, old, male, female, all sorts. It's rare to see full fledged kemono characters in anime: Tail, fur, and muzzle. Rarer still that they have head-hair or sexual dimorphism. Furries in general seem to be fairly unpopular in Japanese media compared to going the nekomimi route. That said, there seems to be some substantial missed opportunities in terms of the main characters. None of the posted character references (discounting Puck, the spirit cat-dude) are for a demihuman. Which, given the density of them in the background, seems a little awkward. Not even the shopkeeper and his daughter and wife were demihumans, which just strikes me as a wasted opportunity to showcase the uniqueness of the world. Interestingly enough, the slums seem to be devoid of demihumans of the furred type. The black market shop owner was termed as a giant, but he was pretty much the only non-human. Perhaps there's some degree of their culture that puts them as better off than the humans, which somehow skews the selection of characters that the protagonist happens to interact with. I've noticed similar issues with GATE and NGNL to the point that I'd sooner attribute it to Japan's culture, having humans and nekomimis as the characters that interact with the 'viewer' is simply more approachable en'masse than with the kemono archetype. Exception coming from Gingitsune which while being seen as a good anime, is something I've never heard of being rated all that highly. PBC/Kumahime(?) are more talking animal than kemono, so, yeah. Bottom line is that I hope there will be more kemonos/demihumans showing up later in the series with spoken lines. I know that towards the end of the series, or in a second season, it's much more likely that the world will be fleshed out enough that there will be a demihuman main character to interact with, but I do hope that one day there will be more Kurama's among the main cast of animes with settings like this one. :) |
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Kamerikata said: Edge of Tomorrow: the Anime lol God this series is amazing as fuck i love the art and animation on this series the characters were great. Felt was cute and Satella was voiced by Takahashi Rie? Wow !! 11/10 ya the VA same as megumin in konosuba |
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xaos12 said: Although I haven't watched the 1st ep yet, I went through a bit of the LN earlier and this deserves more attention tbh. Rate this highly those who are watching it pls, so that it attracts attention. :P Where can I read the LN? |
| The general premise is really nonsensical (they'll need one hell of an explanation just to balance it out), but starting from 1B the plot started getting really interesting. This is just mysterious and intriguing in all the right ways so I really look forward to the next episode, there are so many ways this could go. Also, for some reason I find "Satella"'s character design extremely pretty in particular. |
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Chabe said: I think MC's actions in part B are especially hard to digest because of how self-aware part A presented him as: if he had been clueless from the start then his actions after his first death would've been somewhat understandable (if not particularly bright). But here they just seem all over the place and kinda made MC look like he's having continuous brainfarts throughout the second part of the episode.Jagd84 said: I agree. Most people would have acted way worse, then hed id. More importantly you don't just suddenly think you are time traveling when you don't even proof yourself or know if the whole thing was just premonition. It's not how normal person situation would behave. It would've been great if he thought it was a premonition and acted like it might be, but he didn't. Also, he didn't have to "suddenly think" he was time travelling, but he had plenty of chances to notice over the course of the episode. |
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| Really not a bad first episode. I like it. Even though it has some aspect that seems familiar to some other anime, was just the feeling I got but couldn't put a name to it as the as the general flow, dialogue, characters and development seems different to me. Rare even. So I think I'm going to have fun with this episode. I have high hopes for this series. |
Sapewloth said: ]I think MC's actions in part B are especially hard to digest because of how self-aware part A presented him as: if he had been clueless from the start then his actions after his first death would've been somewhat understandable (if not particularly bright). But here they just seem all over the place and kinda made MC look like he's having continuous brainfarts throughout the second part of the episode. I think you like some people here are misunderstanding something, the MC self-awareness is based on common fantasy tropes. Nowhere has he ever experienced a high-fantasy story where a Hero would die and sudden comeback repeatedly. In fact aren't fantasy stories like that. Being genre savvy doesn't equal being a know-it-all furthermore he's experiencing this directly which hell a lot more different than us the audience siting talking about for detached perspective. Furthermore you seem completely missed that fact he's subconsciously aware something is odd is going on, but he's not too hard about it because he's in a rush to deal with other things at moment . It's not usual or contradictory at all. |
Iron_MawApr 7, 2016 12:02 AM
Kamerikata said: That would be amazingEdge of Tomorrow: the Anime lol |
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crx07 said: Aren't you overthinking a bit? The "imagine you were in his place" reasoning usually doesn't work, especially in this case for obvious reasons. The show has the problems sapewloth mentioned, if those issues don't bother you that's another matter. It was all done for the sake of the shock value.Sapewloth said: ]I think MC's actions in part B are especially hard to digest because of how self-aware part A presented him as: if he had been clueless from the start then his actions after his first death would've been somewhat understandable (if not particularly bright). But here they just seem all over the place and kinda made MC look like he's having continuous brainfarts throughout the second part of the episode. Imagine you are in the MC's place. You saw a murdered big man. Then you saw the killer. Then you are killed. Before you're dead, you are very concerned to Satella and doesn't want her dead, but you see Satella killed. What's the psychological effect? Only psychopaths will feel nothing about it. It's psychologically damaging! Then you see a stall owner immediately. That's crazy! And you're concerned too much about Satella's whereabouts that you dont care if it's de javu or not as long as he will see Satella. It's expected since he saw horror (which i think is not emphasized well in the animation). As shown in the animation (not executed well but acceptable), he is mentally terrorized by the killer (second death). What will be the effect to you? Normally, you will become CRAZY but he still able to handle his craziness but he is unable to think rationally since he's psychologically damaged and the world to him does not make sense. You are lucky youre just watching. The MC is tortured mentally and physically and logically. |
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crx07 said: try to manage the quote code better xD.zal said: Aren't you overthinking a bit? The "imagine you were in his place" reasoning usually doesn't work, especially in this case for obvious reasons. The show has the problems sapewloth mentioned, if those issues don't bother you that's another matter. It was all done for the sake of the shock value. Sorry I misunderstood sapewloth. Yeah, we should blame the storytelling. He is really correct that "they just seem all over the place and kinda made MC look like he's having continuous brainfarts throughout the second part of the episode.". They should have handled it better. But I think the execution of the last 40 seconds (aside from the portrayal of MC as brainfart) is still great. The end is shock factor, not my favourite but not necessarily bad. Him rushing to her might end up being good or bad depending on next episode. |
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zal said: crx07 said: Aren't you overthinking a bit? The "imagine you were in his place" reasoning usually doesn't work, especially in this case for obvious reasons. The show has the problems sapewloth mentioned, if those issues don't bother you that's another matter. It was all done for the sake of the shock value.Imagine you are in the MC's place. You saw a murdered big man. Then you saw the killer. Then you are killed. Before you're dead, you are very concerned to Satella and doesn't want her dead, but you see Satella killed. What's the psychological effect? Only psychopaths will feel nothing about it. It's psychologically damaging! Then you see a stall owner immediately. That's crazy! And you're concerned too much about Satella's whereabouts that you dont care if it's de javu or not as long as he will see Satella. It's expected since he saw horror (which i think is not emphasized well in the animation). As shown in the animation (not executed well but acceptable), he is mentally terrorized by the killer (second death). What will be the effect to you? Normally, you will become CRAZY but he still able to handle his craziness but he is unable to think rationally since he's psychologically damaged and the world to him does not make sense. You are lucky youre just watching. The MC is tortured mentally and physically and logically. Well but that is what this show is all about. The MCs psychological breakdown as he is trying to save his friends/love interest from dying. Nothing more nothing less. |
Jagd84 said: Contrary to what you seem to claim, time travel is not uncommon in fantasy worlds at all. There are plenty of games whether video, card, mobile and tabletop set in fantasy worlds which incorporate this element to their story or even gameplay: D&D, Final Fantasy series, Chrono Trigger, WoW, Majora's Mask, Ocarina of Time, Prince of Persia Sands of Time etc. etc. etc. As a MC who presents himself as a NEET shut-in who spents his days gaming and reading manga and with such a level of self awareness, I don't think expecting of Subaru somewhere along the way of his first rerun to start considering the possibility of being caught in a time loop after what experienced is anywhere near as unreasonable as you make it out to be. Sapewloth said: ]I think MC's actions in part B are especially hard to digest because of how self-aware part A presented him as: if he had been clueless from the start then his actions after his first death would've been somewhat understandable (if not particularly bright). But here they just seem all over the place and kinda made MC look like he's having continuous brainfarts throughout the second part of the episode. I think you like some people here are misunderstanding something, the MC self-awareness is based on common fantasy tropes. Nowhere has he ever experienced a high-fantasy story where a Hero would die and sudden comeback repeatedly. In fact aren't fantasy stories like that. Being genre savvy doesn't equal being a know-it-all furthermore he's experiencing this directly which hell a lot more different than us the audience siting talking about for detached perspective. Furthermore you seem completely missed that fact he's subconsciously aware something is odd is going on, but he's not too hard about it because he's in a rush to deal with other things at moment . It's not usual or contradictory at all. Hell, Subaru himself seems to know time magic is a common thing in fantasy settings, judging by the way he advertises his cell phone as a magical time freezing device. From the looks of it he's definitely a quick-witted dood who knows how to use his meta knowledge to his advantage. So excuse me if I hae trouble understanding why he wouldn't use those brains of his to try and figure out what happened to him and Satella in the warehouse but instead dismiss the event altogether when he clearly remembers it happening and, even more importantly, acts as if it (as well as all the preceeding events in the first timeline) had actually happened. Of course I'm aware that Subaru noticed something was wrong, which makes his choice of prioritizing getting back the insignia over figuring out what the hell is going on all the more incomprehensible, especially given the fact that as the episode progresses, the clues about him going back in time keep piling up. That's where my complaints about character inconsistency come from. I'd say another pet peeve I have is Subaru's complete lack of reaction to hearing the voice of his killer; that ought to be the kind of thing that gets stuck in your head, no matter how hard you try to forget. So him not even being a little alerted by Elsa's voice is, again, quite strange, but that's kindof beside the argument, so who cares. @crx07 I think zal summed it up pretty well, so I don't really have anything to add. (i'm not a "he", tho) ^^ |
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Strident said: Though I'm not the biggest gore fan out there, I'm totally with you on this: the overabundance of violence near the end of part B was what I ended up appreciating the most about the show (aside from adorable Puck). Looking forward to seeing more bloody fights in future episodes.The gore in this episode is excellent, coupled with superior animation. This was one of the consistent highlights of the show. Though I found the majority of the intro and beginning of the second half to be dull, the violence at the end left me wanting for more. I look forward to what... sinister surprises we can expect from here. The ending by MYTH&ROID, Styx Helix, was very well timed and beautifully captured an eerie aura that I hope will evolve generously as the show continues. Please, do not change this ending. And the ED was indeed pretty great. |
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Sapewloth said: Though I'm not the biggest gore fan out there, I'm totally with you on this: the overabundance of violence near the end of part B was what I ended up appreciating the most about the show (aside from adorable Puck). Looking forward to seeing more bloody fights in future episodes. And the ED was indeed pretty great. Well one of the stories strong points is the death scenes that can and will reach disturbing levels as well as the depiction of human suffering and the character growth caused by it. While I'm not too fond of the opening I'm totally loving the ending. It carries over this certain mysterious aspect this story definitely, especially at the start. |
| Man that was awesome! I figured this was gonna be a generic Summoned to another fantasy romance anime filled with generic cliches and predictable crap but holy fuck! This anime took everything from the rest and turned it on its head and gave it a more realistic version of it. The MC ain't no wuss either but he's not a proper bad ass, its like a fusion between the two, so fkn glad we got a protagonist like that! It was great man, really looking forward to the rest of this ungeneric Fantasy anime. Fight scenes were good too and nice animation, got a high production value. Best thing is its 25 episodes! Yas! White Fox studio too! Should be great all the way! |
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NotThisShitAgain said: Based WHITE FOX. They're good adapting the first episode. I thought they're will wrap up the first arc into one episode, oh I'm wrong. Pacing was okay, animation was good. I know people will compare this with ERASED/Steins;Gate but trust me it's different later. This story will go darker and darker every episode. Glad this is have two cour, I hope they're adapted the Third Arc. It's one of fucking amazing arc (and dark arc), just remind me of Berserk or Dorohedoro manga. Yes, it's great episode , hope they're stay with this pacing, it's great WHITE FOX!! Totally agree! and its gonna get darker!? FUCK YES!!! |
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Strident said: I have to wonder if death is the only fate they have in store. The attitude of Elsa seems to suggest otherwise. Tragic for the characters, but bids good tidings for the series. At first I was expecting that but it didn't take long that the author surprised me with all the ways he can make a character suffer. In fact we already saw the introduction to a tragic element besides death but as an anime only you won't really recognize it as that. Oh Elsa, they definitely succeeded in making her creepy although she's like a little girl playing with plastic knifes compared to the villains later on. To me they are downright horror material. Let's just say that it shares more similarities with Tokyo Ghoul/All you need is kill later on. The source material should give White Fox all they need to create something extremely good. It's now on them what they'll do with the 30 volumes worth of content. |
It's a pretty dark series yes. So if you are soft or not really resistant to gory and disturbing topics then you'll have your problems. If you love stuff like that then you'll have a blast with it as it's basically a sadist's wet dream. |
Fappa said: It's a pretty dark series yes. So if you are soft or not really resistant to gory and disturbing topics then you'll have your problems. If you love stuff like that then you'll have a blast with it as it's basically a sadist's wet dream. OH SHIT!!! Been waiting for dark stuff! Can't fkn wait! This is def binge watch material so waiting is gonna be a bitch but it'll be worth it! |
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ColdBreeze said: Just imagine it wouldn't be censored .. That would be gory as hell. The manga shows it, it's (a bit) disturbing and surely not for everyone. The Blu-ray or DVD version could be uncensored though. To be honest I can coupe with censoring if they make a good use of the things anime as a medium gives you like camera angles, animation, voice acting, lighting and soundtrack. So far they've definitely made up for the toned down gore and I expect them to depict every single one of "those" scene in a really great way. |
Fappa said: Strident said: I have to wonder if death is the only fate they have in store. The attitude of Elsa seems to suggest otherwise. Tragic for the characters, but bids good tidings for the series. At first I was expecting that but it didn't take long that the author surprised me with all the ways he can make a character suffer. In fact we already saw the introduction to a tragic element besides death but as an anime only you won't really recognize it as that. Oh Elsa, they definitely succeeded in making her creepy although she's like a little girl playing with plastic knifes compared to the villains later on. To me they are downright horror material. Let's just say that it shares more similarities with Tokyo Ghoul/All you need is kill later on. The source material should give White Fox all they need to create something extremely good. It's now on them what they'll do with the 30 volumes worth of content. But Tokyo Ghoul is shit to me and the 2nd arc in the manga sucks so far will it really turn better? |
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ernst said: But Tokyo Ghoul is shit to me and the 2nd arc in the manga sucks so far will it really turn better? I'm just referring shows that share similar traits not the entire shows themselves. For example the only thing it shares with Steins;Gate or All you need is kill is the time travel and the revival by death. That also applies to Tokyo Ghoul with which it shares aspect like gore, suffering, tragedy and symbolism. This story in its entirety is its own caliber. The source material for this show is the light novel so you shouldn't really take the manga as way to gain an impression on this. Manga adaptations of light novels always tend to rather suck because they are bound to leave out a lot of content. Besides the manga only scratches at the second arc and is not at the point where it actually really starts. Arc 1 throws us into this world and introduces us to the basics of the basics. Arc 2 still mainly functions as an introduction to the overall world, characters and plot but also starts to get into things. Arc 3 is where things really kicks off. The author knows that a long introduction does not necessairly work in favor for a story so the first and second arc are rather short compared to the third arc and the following. So to sum it up, you've read an adaptation of a source material that cuts out a lot of content and is still in the introduction. You're better of reading the light novels/web novels or simply watching the anime :) |
FappaApr 7, 2016 10:33 AM
Sapewloth said: Contrary to what you seem to claim, time travel is not uncommon in fantasy worlds at all. There are plenty of games whether video, card, mobile and tabletop set in fantasy worlds which incorporate this element to their story or even gameplay: D&D, Final Fantasy series, Chrono Trigger, WoW, Majora's Mask, Ocarina of Time, Prince of Persia Sands of Time etc. etc. etc. As a MC who presents himself as a NEET shut-in who spents his days gaming and reading manga and with such a level of self awareness, I don't think expecting of Subaru somewhere along the way of his first rerun to start considering the possibility of being caught in a time loop after what experienced is anywhere near as unreasonable as you make it out to be. All you did was just post some exceptions and those games dealt as they primary plot points. The vast majority fantasy stories in Japan are modeled after D&D campingins that don't involved time looping heroes. You assuming that he's actually played those games to begin with instead generic MMOs with meadevil settings which are more popular nowadays. So yes it is being unreasonable especially when you don't actual know anything beyond his basic intro. Hell, Subaru himself seems to know time magic is a common thing in fantasy settings, judging by the way he advertises his cell phone as a magical time freezing device. From the looks of it he's definitely a quick-witted dood who knows how to use his meta knowledge to his advantage. So excuse me if I hae trouble understanding why he wouldn't use those brains of his to try and figure out what happened to him and Satella in the warehouse but instead dismiss the event altogether when he clearly remembers it happening and, even more importantly, acts as if it (as well as all the preceeding events in the first timeline) had actually happened. Just because a setting has magic does not mean it has no rules or structure for what it can or can't do. He has no idea magic world is capable or what is happening to him is even magic to start with. He's already been getting punished making assumptions about his situation the last thing he needs to do make more without concrete proof. And o0nce again he's currently saddled with other business. Of course I'm aware that Subara noticed something was wrong, which makes his choice of prioritizing getting back the insignia over figuring out what the hell is going on all the more incomprehensible, especially given the fact that as the episode progresses, the clues about him going back in time keep piling up. That's where my complaints about character inconsistency come from. Then you would realize he no idea or proof make sense of what is going on. The entire sequence came off like sudden bad acid trip. Just being subconsciously aware of something isn't proof of anything is actually going on. Your mind complex is fully capable of play tricks on you, I know myself I've dream of things I thought were real, but turned out it wasn't. Futhermore it's not like he follow the same steps he took in the first loop I'd say another pet peee I have is Subaru's complete lack of reaction to hearing the voice of his killer; that ought to be the kind of thing that gets stuck in your head, no matter how hard you try to forget. So him not even being a little alerted by Elsa's voice is, again, quite strange, but that's kindof beside the argument, so who cares. With how fast whole thing happened and fact his stomach has just been slice opened and friend of his been killed secs later there no way he concertinaing on some random voice he's in a intense amount of pain and barely conscious at that. Atleast in my case last damn thing I would even be in mind to think about. That not how some ordinary behave unless they had some serious mental will power. |
Iron_MawApr 8, 2016 6:53 AM
| @Jagd84 I'm really surprised that so many people seem incapable of putting themselves into a characters situation. Not only that, they also don't see the necessity in leaving their narrow-minded perspective but they point out things they see as unreasonable and unrealistic. Well yeah, I can too judge nearly everything as unreasonable if I stay in my comfort zone and don't even try to myself into the situation of the characters. *sigh* Anyway glad there are people who are able to something like that :) |
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Fappa said: L-Ryoshi said: Expected this to be good and wasn't disappointed. I think the most freakish thing is it's actually due to the current society with all the anime culture and stuff that people wouldn't find suddenly walking into a parallel fantasy world all that freaky. If this happened to someone when anime wasn't as popular, like in the 1990s, you can bet your asses that they'd freak their shit out.... That said, I cannot help but think the MC is dumb as heck. Youo got your stomach sliced open the first time round and suddenly wake up in front of the apple guy, who is acting like he doesn't know you, and then suddenly bump into the same three douche bags who also act like they never met you before, would you not stop to think for even a second first that there was something seriously weird about the entire situation before running over to that house? I cannot help but think that he deserved to die that second time round. Then the third time he wakes up at the same spot, obviously with all the memories of himself dying TWICE intact... why would he be stupid enough to think that the girl actually remembers him? Sure he's a Hikkikomori, but he wasn't acting all that dumb when he was trying to barter off his phone. So why all those weird moments of brainfarts from this dude? Seriously, apart from the inconsistency of the MC and his brainfarts, I liked everything else about this show. Love the animation, love the voices and the music. I even love the sexy lady who sliced the MC's stomach open (good on you girl!). j Cannot wait to see what happens next, but don't give us any more of the MC being a dumb, inconsistently, irrational idiot please! Okay it was easy to miss but after his first death you can see that he's actually realized that something is weird, he's still skeptical though. At multiple times he tries to get indirect confirmation that the things he clearly remembers in his memories actually haven't happened yet. ( asking Rom whether he has died yet, asking Felt if she has met him yet , asking the thugs if they want revenge ). He also acknowledges that something is weird and that he has experienced this already because he has learnt from his previous loop. The second time he meets those thugs he goes for the guy with the knife first. He also decides to not repeat the same actions but rather take on the problem at its roots, the warehouse. He tries to get the insignia so that both of them don't even have to show up there if this whole reset thing is actually true of course. At scene where Elsa kicks him back he has a short flashback and he looks even more shocked because he now has the confirmation that all the things in the first loop have actually happened. He learns from this first loop by protecting his belly at all costs but it wasn't enough. After his second death and revival he finally realizes that he starts over here when he dies but he can't comprehend how this is even possible. Combine that with the traumatizing experience of being killed alongside with the pain -> blacks out Then he sees Satella and don't misunderstand he isn't surprised that she doesn't remember him. He has realized that already. He's surprised that she is upset about him calling her name ( normally you would expect a normal and probably friendly "How do you know my name?" ) and that she obviously didn't trust him enough to give him her real name. Add to this the fact that this name is the name of a witch who seems to be feared by the people. Well, considering that I've read the manga (for the first 2 arcs), have read up on the first 3 arcs of the LN from other places, and knowing that his "behavior" continues into the next two arcs after this one, I'll just say that I would disagree with your assessment and leave it at that, so as not to spoil it for the rest of the viewers. |
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L-Ryoshi said: Fappa said: Okay it was easy to miss but after his first death you can see that he's actually realized that something is weird, he's still skeptical though. At multiple times he tries to get indirect confirmation that the things he clearly remembers in his memories actually haven't happened yet. ( asking Rom whether he has died yet, asking Felt if she has met him yet , asking the thugs if they want revenge ). He also acknowledges that something is weird and that he has experienced this already because he has learnt from his previous loop. The second time he meets those thugs he goes for the guy with the knife first. He also decides to not repeat the same actions but rather take on the problem at its roots, the warehouse. He tries to get the insignia so that both of them don't even have to show up there if this whole reset thing is actually true of course. At scene where Elsa kicks him back he has a short flashback and he looks even more shocked because he now has the confirmation that all the things in the first loop have actually happened. He learns from this first loop by protecting his belly at all costs but it wasn't enough. After his second death and revival he finally realizes that he starts over here when he dies but he can't comprehend how this is even possible. Combine that with the traumatizing experience of being killed alongside with the pain -> blacks out Then he sees Satella and don't misunderstand he isn't surprised that she doesn't remember him. He has realized that already. He's surprised that she is upset about him calling her name ( normally you would expect a normal and probably friendly "How do you know my name?" ) and that she obviously didn't trust him enough to give him her real name. Add to this the fact that this name is the name of a witch who seems to be feared by the people. Well, considering that I've read the manga (for the first 2 arcs), have read up on the first 3 arcs of the LN from other places, and knowing that his "behavior" continues into the next two arcs after this one, I'll just say that I would disagree with your assessment and leave it at that, so as not to spoil it for the rest of the viewers. What is your reason to watch/read this show/LN/Manga at all? |
Quite simply, because I enjoy watching the animated version of a series which I am interested in. The premises of the story was intriguing enough to pique my interest, and I am a big fan of seeing karma working properly, as in stupid people doing stupid things eventually arriving at the proper bad end which they deserve. I guess you could consider me a bit of a sadist. |
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L-Ryoshi said: Quite simply, because I enjoy watching the animated version of a series which I am interested in. The premises of the story was intriguing enough to pique my interest, and I am a big fan of seeing karma working properly, as in stupid people doing stupid things eventually arriving at the proper bad end which they deserve. I guess you could consider me a bit of a sadist. Well i understand your motivation. But i am still sad that you think like that about the protagonist Q_Q After all you read Vol. 3(at least) and your opinion about Subaru is the same. |
MonoReaperApr 7, 2016 12:49 PM
L-Ryoshi said: Well, considering that I've read the manga (for the first 2 arcs), have read up on the first 3 arcs of the LN from other places, and knowing that his "behavior" continues into the next two arcs after this one, I'll just say that I would disagree with your assessment and leave it at that, so as not to spoil it for the rest of the viewers. Well in that regard I can agree, he's indeed a fool that makes quite some mistakes but the story as well as he himself seems aware of that and like you said he gets a proper bad ending for that. Personally this is one of the things that make him more humane in my eyes. I wouldn't be able to do everything right and not act like a complete idiot at times with all these things happening to me. It's just that right at the start he isn't as clueless as people make him out to be. To add up on his answer, I think him doing mistakes and being clueless at times is far more tolerable due to the fact that story gives him what he deserves for that. Do not get me wrong his character gets growth in many aspects but he still has some idiotic backlashes ( can't blame him though, he's been through a lot ). |
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