bigivelfhq said: EverydayIfight said: > Huge > Being adapted by Madhouse Lmao. > Death Note > NANA While those 2 were huge back then, it's true that in the last 5/6 years Madhouse hasn't adapted any manga (so no NGNL or Overlord) which then turned into a huge success. I'd guess it has not much to do with Madhouse itself, but more with the manga they adapt not being prone to become a mega-hit. One Punch Man is definitely a good way to see which is the real case. It has a lot of potential to become a top seller, so if it does't maybe there really is a Madhouse curse (or more like Madhouse having no advertisement...) I very much doubt it, but you never know. |
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AdmiralKizaru98 said: EverydayIfight said: What? how is their gross relevant? Strong World = Brought in new fans and had 400k backlog sales each volume I think World Z = No new fans to bring in such a short time. Dude you know that before the strong world movie there were like 10 other movies. wh didnt they boost it like you say Because those were standard Jump movies with no particular hype or advertisment like Strong world? Strong World was the first one piece movie to be advertised as Oda being involved in it, Naturally that generated hype and advertisement. |
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EverydayIfight said: ^ ignoring the fact that it's only the ''top dog'' because of the boost from the movie, that brought more than half a million of new fans. The boost is more like 1.5-1.8 Million during 3 years. Also it wasn't only "top dog", because of the movie, it was already before. |
Agafin said: Attributing all of One Piece's boost to the movie is silly, I think it's a combination of both the manga content back then and the heavy movie promotion. Dismissing the impact of the movie altogether is silly too. @Kizaru Maybe Film Z didn't create any further boost because One Piece had peaked? Okay you have the final argument from me. The Srong World Movie was brought in Theaters in 2009. One Piece had 15 Million Sales that year. Then when Marineford Arc started in 2010 it had 30 million sales, and the Movie was long gone from advertising and from the theaters. Then in 2011 One Piece had 37 million sales , when Marineford arc was in the middle in the Anime and the big end had happened in Manga and the big Timeskip happeded. The film was in theaters for like 2 months or so in 2009, so how you wanna say tell me that it was because of the Movie. Definitely the movie boosted a little bit but thats it, like 90 percent came from the things in Anime and manga. |
bigivelfhq said: EverydayIfight said: ^ ignoring the fact that it's only the ''top dog'' because of the boost from the movie, that brought more than half a million of new fans. The boost is more like 1.5-1.8 Million during 3 years. Also it wasn't only "top dog", because of the movie, it was already before. 1.5 per volume you mean? No, it got beaten several times by NANA, Death Note, Vagabond, Nodame, and some others I forgot. Before the 2009 boosts. Even in Jump It was below both Slam Dunk and Dragonball, had more volumes than them but was still below them in total volume sales, let alone the volume average. |
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bigivelfhq said: EverydayIfight said: ^ ignoring the fact that it's only the ''top dog'' because of the boost from the movie, that brought more than half a million of new fans. The boost is more like 1.5-1.8 Million during 3 years. Also it wasn't only "top dog", because of the movie, it was already before. In 2008, it apparently sold about 6 million, which while good is far from the juggernaut One Piece is now. |
| 5 main aspects I base my ratings on: 1. Did DramaEnthusiast make a thread about it? 2. Is it better than Breaking Bad? 3. Did MellowJello recommend the shit out of it? 4. Has it caused a (very entertaining) shitstorm on MAL? 5. Is it actually good? Scratch the fifth point, it's not very relevant... |
EverydayIfight said: lol u cherry picked thats nice moodie said: this is funny because new madhouse is actually making better financial hits then old madhouse Lol no. I find it ironic how you shitpost and pretend you know your shit about sales and the industry when you are more ignorant than the others. Old madhouse: 1998) 19,418 Cardcaptor Sakura (カードキャプターさくら) (2006) 15,021 DEATH NOTE (2002) 10,998 Chobits (ちょびっツ) (2006) *7,376 NANA (1999) *7,745 Di Gi Charat (1998) *5,816 TRIGUN new Madhouse (2014) 11,887 Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei (2014) *8,316 No Game No Life ( (2010) *6,875 HIGHSCHOOL OF THE DEAD (2012) *4,773 Oda Nobuna no Yabou (2014) *3,648 Hanayamata (ハナヤマタ) [3/6 Vols] (2013) *4,045 Diamond no Ace (2013) *3,235 Chihayafuru 2 Old madhouse clearly had more hits. http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=781179&show=20#post37 but if u look at all the sales u can see the trend hun remember ur looking at the aggregate not the micro...its funny how u think u know anything about the industry by justifying ur false info |
AdmiralKizaru98 said: Okay you have the final argument from me. The Srong World Movie was brought in Theaters in 2009. One Piece had 15 Million Sales that year. Then when Marineford Arc started in 2010 it had 30 million sales, and the Movie was long gone from advertising and from the theaters. Then in 2011 One Piece had 37 million sales , when Marineford arc was in the middle in the Anime and the big end had happened in Manga and the big Timeskip happeded. The film was in theaters for like 2 months or so in 2009, so how you wanna say tell me that it was because of the Movie. Definitely the movie boosted a little bit but thats it, like 90 percent came from the things in Anime and manga. I like how you ignored this: metsujin said: AdmiralKizaru98 said: You just dont understand do you how can a movie that grossed 55 million Strong World) dollars boost muuuuuuch more than a movie with (75 Film z) million gross It says on wikipedia that "The promotions surrounding Strong World boosted the sales of the One Piece manga during the week of December 7 through 13, causing all 56 then published volumes to be listed in Oricon's Top 200 chart of weekly Japanese manga sales." Based on this http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1323425 One Piece 14 mil in 2009 And this http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1323427 One Piece 32 mil 2010 And the annual sales start from November 2009 to November 2010, the movie released in December 2009.. now you do the math. So thanks to that movie One Piece has more fans. |
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AdmiralKizaru98 said: Agafin said: Attributing all of One Piece's boost to the movie is silly, I think it's a combination of both the manga content back then and the heavy movie promotion. Dismissing the impact of the movie altogether is silly too. @Kizaru Maybe Film Z didn't create any further boost because One Piece had peaked? Okay you have the final argument from me. The Srong World Movie was brought in Theaters in 2009. One Piece had 15 Million Sales that year. Then when Marineford Arc started in 2010 it had 30 million sales, and the Movie was long gone from advertising and from the theaters. Then in 2011 One Piece had 37 million sales , when Marineford arc was in the middle in the Anime and the big end had happened in Manga and the big Timeskip happeded. The film was in theaters for like 2 months or so in 2009, so how you wanna say tell me that it was because of the Movie. Definitely the movie boosted a little bit but thats it, like 90 percent came from the things in Anime and manga. Strong world was released in theaters in december so all the boost from it was carried over to 2010 and 11. |
EverydayIfight said: bigivelfhq said: The boost is more like 1.5-1.8 Million during 3 years. Also it wasn't only "top dog", because of the movie, it was already before. 1.5 per volume you mean? No, it got beaten several times by NANA, Death Note, Vagabond, Nodame, and some others I forgot. Before the 2009 boosts. Even in Jump It was below both Slam Dunk and Dragonball, had more volumes than them but was still below them in total volume sales, let alone the volume average. Before 2009 sales are really not accurate. You wanna tell me that in 1999 no series sold more than 1 million overall, because the charts say that, which you use to argument. |
moodie said: ol u cherry picked thats nice but if u look at all the sales u can see the trend hun remember ur looking at the aggregate not the micro...its funny how u think u know anything about the industry by justifying ur false info ''lol i talk like a moron'' I put the biggest hits from both era's.. I like how you proved I'm wrong by simply saying I'm wrong. Please teach me more about the industry, Master Shitposter-sama. |
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Z4k said: AdmiralKizaru98 said: Okay you have the final argument from me. The Srong World Movie was brought in Theaters in 2009. One Piece had 15 Million Sales that year. Then when Marineford Arc started in 2010 it had 30 million sales, and the Movie was long gone from advertising and from the theaters. Then in 2011 One Piece had 37 million sales , when Marineford arc was in the middle in the Anime and the big end had happened in Manga and the big Timeskip happeded. The film was in theaters for like 2 months or so in 2009, so how you wanna say tell me that it was because of the Movie. Definitely the movie boosted a little bit but thats it, like 90 percent came from the things in Anime and manga. Strong world was released in theaters in december so all the boost from it was carried over to 2010 and 11. Omg no the movie wasnt even seen that much. it wasnt hyped so much because of only advertisemnt , the hype came from One Pieces peak right there. |
EverydayIfight said: moodie said: ol u cherry picked thats nice but if u look at all the sales u can see the trend hun remember ur looking at the aggregate not the micro...its funny how u think u know anything about the industry by justifying ur false info ''lol i talk like a moron'' I put the biggest hits from both era's.. I like how you proved I'm wrong by simply saying I'm wrong. Please teach me more about the industry, Master Shitposter-sama. Dude what is your goal in this Argument, you only bash on everyone here thats not thinking the same as you. |
AdmiralKizaru98 said: EverydayIfight said: 1.5 per volume you mean? No, it got beaten several times by NANA, Death Note, Vagabond, Nodame, and some others I forgot. Before the 2009 boosts. Even in Jump It was below both Slam Dunk and Dragonball, had more volumes than them but was still below them in total volume sales, let alone the volume average. Before 2009 sales are really not accurate. You wanna tell me that in 1999 no series sold more than 1 million overall, because the charts say that, which you use to argument. How arbitrary. Prove it with some factual evidence, not just speculation and assumptions. And I'm not even using that chart or oricon. Before 2009, total volume sales of Jump Dragonball and Slam Dunk was above one piece. |
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AdmiralKizaru98 said: Z4k said: Strong world was released in theaters in december so all the boost from it was carried over to 2010 and 11. Omg no the movie wasnt even seen that much. it wasnt hyped so much because of only advertisemnt , the hype came from One Pieces peak right there. Are you serious? The movie made 50 million dollars so of course it was seen by many people. |
| Anyway One Piece is the biggest Manga series of all time so its not really important if you think it got its sales this way or the other. :D |
| I don't get why the denial that the movie help boost the sales, it's not that it's something bad... well for other series it is I guess, but for One Piece is a good thing. |
AdmiralKizaru98 said: Dude what is your goal in this Argument, you only bash on everyone here thats not thinking the same as you. Why do you care? it's not relevant to your ''one piece'' agenda anyway, LOL. metsujin said: I don't get why the denial that the movie help boost the sales, it's not that it's something bad... well for other series it is I guess, but for One Piece is a good thing. Because if that giant boost came from the ''quality'' of an arc from the manga itself, it elevates the status of one piece even further. Which is his whole agenda being a one piece fanboy. He attacked the manga sales club because his beloved one piece wasn't shown with high sales and was beaten in other years, calling it inaccurate and what have you. One Piece fans, sigh. |
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metsujin said: I don't get why the denial that the movie help boost the sales, it's not that it's something bad... well for other series it is I guess, but for One Piece is a good thing. I dont deny i only say its mostly because of Marineford and timeskip and the movie in the right time too. But not only because of the movie because there never was a movie boosting One Piece sales even the Ones which grossed more than strong world. |
EverydayIfight said: AdmiralKizaru98 said: Dude what is your goal in this Argument, you only bash on everyone here thats not thinking the same as you. Why do you care? it's not relevant to your ''one piece'' agenda anyway, LOL. metsujin said: I don't get why the denial that the movie help boost the sales, it's not that it's something bad... well for other series it is I guess, but for One Piece is a good thing. Because if that giant boost came from the ''quality'' of an arc from the manga itself, it elevates the status of one piece even further. Which is his whole agenda being a one piece fanboy. He attacked the manga sales club because his beloved one piece wasn't shown with high sales and was beaten in other years, calling it inaccurate and what have you. One Piece fans, sigh. oh you wanna tell me that the sales were accurate there ? |
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EverydayIfight said: u right moodie said: ol u cherry picked thats nice but if u look at all the sales u can see the trend hun remember ur looking at the aggregate not the micro...its funny how u think u know anything about the industry by justifying ur false info ''lol i talk like a moron'' I put the biggest hits from both era's.. I like how you proved I'm wrong by simply saying I'm wrong. Please teach me more about the industry, Master Shitposter-sama. but the decline isnt as big as people are making it out to be...mb i just compared the numbers...i was going by estimates not math |
AdmiralKizaru98 said: metsujin said: I don't get why the denial that the movie help boost the sales, it's not that it's something bad... well for other series it is I guess, but for One Piece is a good thing. I dont deny i only say its mostly because of Marineford and timeskip and the movie in the right time too. But not only because of the movie because there never was a movie boosting One Piece sales even the Ones which grossed more than strong world. Dude the only movie that grossed more than Strong World is Film Z, and at the time One Piece's fanbase already grew up A LOT. As some stated here, if you look at the Strong World's box office over 50 mil people went to see it... Now I'd say it's pretty hard to print that many copies in just one year so... |
moodie said: EverydayIfight said: u right ''lol i talk like a moron'' I put the biggest hits from both era's.. I like how you proved I'm wrong by simply saying I'm wrong. Please teach me more about the industry, Master Shitposter-sama. but the decline isnt as big as people are making it out to be...mb i just compared the numbers...i was going by estimates not math yeah |
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EverydayIfight said: bigivelfhq said: The boost is more like 1.5-1.8 Million during 3 years. Also it wasn't only "top dog", because of the movie, it was already before. 1.5 per volume you mean? No, it got beaten several times by NANA, Death Note, Vagabond, Nodame, and some others I forgot. Before the 2009 boosts. Even in Jump It was below both Slam Dunk and Dragonball, had more volumes than them but was still below them in total volume sales, let alone the volume average. Vagabond -> 1998(1st year of One Piece) NANA -> 2005 Death Note, Nodame Cantabile -> 2006 So it was the top dog in 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2007 2008 2009 This is 9 years at the top before Strong World. Also notice that the 3 years right before the Movie it was 1st. So tell me how it wasn't the Top Dog? Dragon Ball ended in 1995, Slam Dunk ended in 1996. 2 and 1 year before One Piece, respectively. So why bringing them, when their volumes weren't even selling, significantly during that time. Also note that One Piece surpassed Slam Dunk best volume 1st print record as soon as 2002. |
metsujin said: AdmiralKizaru98 said: I dont deny i only say its mostly because of Marineford and timeskip and the movie in the right time too. But not only because of the movie because there never was a movie boosting One Piece sales even the Ones which grossed more than strong world. Dude the only movie that grossed more than Strong World is Film Z, and at the time One Piece's fanbase already grew up A LOT. As some stated her, if you look at the Strong World's box office over 50 mil people went to see it... Now I'd say it's pretty hard to print that many copies in just one year so... It grossed 50 million dollars not people you kidding:D if it would be 50 million half japan youldve seen it. :DDDD |
AdmiralKizaru98 said: Agafin said: Attributing all of One Piece's boost to the movie is silly, I think it's a combination of both the manga content back then and the heavy movie promotion. Dismissing the impact of the movie altogether is silly too. @Kizaru Maybe Film Z didn't create any further boost because One Piece had peaked? Okay you have the final argument from me. The Srong World Movie was brought in Theaters in 2009. One Piece had 15 Million Sales that year. Then when Marineford Arc started in 2010 it had 30 million sales, and the Movie was long gone from advertising and from the theaters. Then in 2011 One Piece had 37 million sales , when Marineford arc was in the middle in the Anime and the big end had happened in Manga and the big Timeskip happeded. The film was in theaters for like 2 months or so in 2009, so how you wanna say tell me that it was because of the Movie. Definitely the movie boosted a little bit but thats it, like 90 percent came from the things in Anime and manga. That's how a boost works. The movie was the trigger which set the boost and positive Word of Mouth propagate it. That's where the content is important, since most people actually tried and became OP fans since they liked it. One Piece sold better in 2011 because it's a long manga and people bought it gradually, simple as that. http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2010-04-14/one-piece-anime-sets-record-tv-rating-of-13.8-percent From Fall of 2006 to Spring of 2009, One Piece's ratings largely stayed close to 10.0%. After publicity grew for the 10th One Piece film, television episode #421 earned a record post-move high rating (at the time) of 12.0% on October 11. Throughout last month, One Piece stayed at 11.9% or higher. The movie was the trigger so it's a 50/50 deal. |
AdmiralKizaru98 said: metsujin said: Dude the only movie that grossed more than Strong World is Film Z, and at the time One Piece's fanbase already grew up A LOT. As some stated her, if you look at the Strong World's box office over 50 mil people went to see it... Now I'd say it's pretty hard to print that many copies in just one year so... It grossed 50 million dollars not people you kidding:D if it would be 50 million half japan youldve seen it. :DDDD It made $54,974,136 DOLLARS |
bigivelfhq said: EverydayIfight said: 1.5 per volume you mean? No, it got beaten several times by NANA, Death Note, Vagabond, Nodame, and some others I forgot. Before the 2009 boosts. Even in Jump It was below both Slam Dunk and Dragonball, had more volumes than them but was still below them in total volume sales, let alone the volume average. Vagabond -> 1998(1st year of One Piece) NANA -> 2005 Death Note, Nodame Cantabile -> 2006 So it was the top dog in 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2007 2008 2009 This is 9 years at the top before Strong World. Also notice that the 3 years right before the Movie it was 1st. So tell me how it wasn't the Top Dog? Dragon Ball ended in 1995, Slam Dunk ended in 1996. 2 and 1 year before One Piece, respectively. So why bringing them, when their volumes weren't even selling, significantly during that time. Also note that One Piece surpassed Slam Dunk best volume 1st print record as soon as 2002. Why you all youse that One thing with vagabond, i dont say one piece was first but you cant know because the chart from then is soooooo inaccurate the best selling manga has like 800k in a year with all volumes together thats like 1 /10 of the real sales. |
metsujin said: AdmiralKizaru98 said: It grossed 50 million dollars not people you kidding:D if it would be 50 million half japan youldve seen it. :DDDD It made $54,974,136 DOLLARS Thats what i was saying? |
AdmiralKizaru98 said: Thats what i was saying? Misspelled and miss read my bad. Point is the movie did help the manga a lot. |
bigivelfhq said: Vagabond -> 1998(1st year of One Piece) NANA -> 2005 Death Note, Nodame Cantabile -> 2006 So it was the top dog in 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2007 2008 2009 This is 9 years at the top before Strong World. Also notice that the 3 years right before the Movie it was 1st. So tell me how it wasn't the Top Dog? Dragon Ball ended in 1995, Slam Dunk ended in 1996. 2 and 1 year before One Piece, respectively. So why bringing them, when their volumes weren't even selling, significantly during that time. Also note that One Piece surpassed Slam Dunk best volume 1st print record as soon as 2002. Eh what? 1999 > Meitantei Conan, Rurouni Kenshin http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1378429 2001 > Vagabond http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1373118 7 years. I'm comparing One Piece now to one piece before that boost. Now: 1st at the end year consistently 1st at total volume sales Then: not as consistent not first at total volume sales Because I was including total volume sales.Who cares about prints. It had more volumes than it, but lower sales. Without the movie boost, would one piece be as dominate now? No, not even close <<<< my point |
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metsujin said: AdmiralKizaru98 said: Thats what i was saying? Misspelled and miss read my bad. Point is the movie did help the manga a lot. Yes it did but not THAT much like you say because even Naruto Movies gross almost that much its nothing special. |
AdmiralKizaru98 said: metsujin said: Misspelled and miss read my bad. Point is the movie did help the manga a lot. Yes it did but not THAT much like you say because even Naruto Movies gross almost that much its nothing special. Because the manga ended? And it did help the backlog sales btw. |
AdmiralKizaru98 said: metsujin said: Misspelled and miss read my bad. Point is the movie did help the manga a lot. Yes it did but not THAT much like you say because even Naruto Movies gross almost that much its nothing special. Yes that much, didn't you see my post? Or you ignore it? Thanks to all the hype around it, the company had to reprint a lot of volumes at the time... come on man wtf.. |
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EverydayIfight said: bigivelfhq said: Vagabond -> 1998(1st year of One Piece) NANA -> 2005 Death Note, Nodame Cantabile -> 2006 So it was the top dog in 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2007 2008 2009 This is 9 years at the top before Strong World. Also notice that the 3 years right before the Movie it was 1st. So tell me how it wasn't the Top Dog? Dragon Ball ended in 1995, Slam Dunk ended in 1996. 2 and 1 year before One Piece, respectively. So why bringing them, when their volumes weren't even selling, significantly during that time. Also note that One Piece surpassed Slam Dunk best volume 1st print record as soon as 2002. Eh what? 1999 > Meitantei Conan, Rurouni Kenshin http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1378429 2001 > Vagabond http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1373118 7 years. I'm comparing One Piece now to one piece before that boost. Now: 1st at the end year consistently 1st at total volume sales Then: not as consistent not first at total volume sales Because I was including total volume sales.Who cares about prints. It had more volumes than it, but lower sales. Without the movie boost, would one piece be as dominate now? No, not even close <<<< my point Your opinion is invalid because One Piece IS the best selling manga of all time by far and has all records for sales of any kind also the anime ratings are incredible too. Also notice that One Piece has the record for the highest 100 million selling manga, in 8 years to be concrete, so that means that One Piece was the best muuuuuch before the movie. |
| lol I think I'm going to stop. This is getting ridiculous. |
Z4k said: lol I think I'm going to stop. This is getting ridiculous. Same.. either he's a troll or just a extreme fanboy... I can't deal with this anymore. |
metsujin said: AdmiralKizaru98 said: Yes it did but not THAT much like you say because even Naruto Movies gross almost that much its nothing special. Yes that much, didn't you see my post? Or you ignore it? Thanks to all the hype around it, the company had to reprint a lot of volumes at the time... come on man wtf.. How ? when One Piece sold the 30 millions and 37 millions it was only in the theaters for 2 months after that it goes away. And notice how One Piece sold more in 2011 than in 2010 despite the movie being closer to 2010. It was because in 2011 the final of marineford happend and the new world satrted it was all hype. |
AdmiralKizaru98 said: Z4k said: Strong world was released in theaters in december so all the boost from it was carried over to 2010 and 11. Omg no the movie wasnt even seen that much. it wasnt hyped so much because of only advertisemnt , the hype came from One Pieces peak right there. It was both! The boost started in Sabaondy Island in 2008. We know that before the Movie it broke the record of 1st print(that was is) 1 time, with volume 56 printing 2.85 Million, with the movie it got a reinforcement to the already existent boost, getting around 500k new reader in 2010( and continuing until 2012. In the end the boost was due to the amazing combination of Manga-Anime-Movie. |
bigivelfhq said: YESSSSS FINALLLLYY thats what im talkingAdmiralKizaru98 said: Omg no the movie wasnt even seen that much. it wasnt hyped so much because of only advertisemnt , the hype came from One Pieces peak right there. It was both! The boost started in Sabaondy Island in 2008. We know that before the Movie it broke the record of 1st print(that was is) 1 time, with volume 56 printing 2.85 Million, with the movie it got a reinforcement to the already existent boost, getting around 500k new reader in 2010( and continuing until 2012. In the end the boost was due to the amazing combination of Manga-Anime-Movie. |
AquaWateria said: One Piece may be the best selling manga in total sales, but it isn't the best selling per Vol average. That goes to Black Jack. Yeah it may be off subject but I just wanted to say that. Yeah i know but it also had muuch more time to sell those volumes :D But youre right Black Jack is another Phenomenon |
Agafin said: That's how a boost works. The movie was the trigger which set the boost and positive Word of Mouth propagate it. That's where the content is important, since most people actually tried and became OP fans since they liked it. One Piece sold better in 2011 because it's a long manga and people bought it gradually, simple as that. This is the most reasonable argument that has been made about this. How else could a manga sell 70 million volumes in 2 years otherwise? The movie is definitely what led the 500k people to try it out, but if they hadn't enjoyed what they read, they would have stopped catching up to the series which clearly didn't happen. |
| 5 main aspects I base my ratings on: 1. Did DramaEnthusiast make a thread about it? 2. Is it better than Breaking Bad? 3. Did MellowJello recommend the shit out of it? 4. Has it caused a (very entertaining) shitstorm on MAL? 5. Is it actually good? Scratch the fifth point, it's not very relevant... |
AdmiralKizaru98 said: bigivelfhq said: Vagabond -> 1998(1st year of One Piece) NANA -> 2005 Death Note, Nodame Cantabile -> 2006 So it was the top dog in 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2007 2008 2009 This is 9 years at the top before Strong World. Also notice that the 3 years right before the Movie it was 1st. So tell me how it wasn't the Top Dog? Dragon Ball ended in 1995, Slam Dunk ended in 1996. 2 and 1 year before One Piece, respectively. So why bringing them, when their volumes weren't even selling, significantly during that time. Also note that One Piece surpassed Slam Dunk best volume 1st print record as soon as 2002. Why you all youse that One thing with vagabond, i dont say one piece was first but you cant know because the chart from then is soooooo inaccurate the best selling manga has like 800k in a year with all volumes together thats like 1 /10 of the real sales. Not going with that, but with the Japanese One Piece wikipedia. Also the fact that it was the fastest Manga to reach 100 Million, and the fact that in 2002 it beat the record of 1st print not 1, not 2, but 3 times. And the print numbers that are correct during those times. |
bigivelfhq said: AdmiralKizaru98 said: Why you all youse that One thing with vagabond, i dont say one piece was first but you cant know because the chart from then is soooooo inaccurate the best selling manga has like 800k in a year with all volumes together thats like 1 /10 of the real sales. Not going with that, but with the Japanese One Piece wikipedia. Also the fact that it was the fastest Manga to reach 100 Million, and the fact that in 2002 it beat the record of 1st print not 1, not 2, but 3 times. And the print numbers that are correct during those times. Oh yes. |
AquaWateria said: One Piece may be the best selling manga in total sales, but it isn't the best selling per Vol average. That goes to Black Jack. No it's not, wikipedia is wrong, check their sources, they come from this: http://www.mangazenkan.com/ranking/books-circulation.html It's not 176 mil copies, but 45 million Plz way too many people still believe that it somehow sold 176 million copies |
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TheNextChamp said: AquaWateria said: One Piece may be the best selling manga in total sales, but it isn't the best selling per Vol average. That goes to Black Jack. No it's not, wikipedia is wrong, check their sources, they come from this: http://www.mangazenkan.com/ranking/books-circulation.html It's not 176 mil copies, but 45 million Plz way too many people still believe that it somehow sold 176 million copies Wow this makes so much clear right now. It was really strange to me with lie 10 million sales per volume. This seems much more right Also the Japan and outside sales seem to be correct too. Thank you very much. |
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