ShiroKiro said: Does archer ever appear again in any other series/movie/sequel/game/VN? I honestly liked his character the most, it was simply brilliantly written. No other character in fate comes close honestly, not even shirou himself! Archer apears in Fate/stay night Fate/hollow ataraxia, Fate/Extra Fate/extra CCC Fate/Grand order. |
Forgetfulness said: i doubt he has.....Guys you shouldn't recommend Fate/hollow ataraxia unless he read the F/sn VN first since it's a sequel to all three routes lol Unless he already has and I'm just assuming things wrong |
| 1. Did anyone already watch the God Eater anime? My Gawd.. The CGI animation looked like cardboard pasted on characters. It is really terrible. What happened UFO? Here's hoping that they won't butcher HF anime. |
| F0XFIRE said: OP 4 most butthurt bitch on MAL. |
| God Eater has no CGI. IT is an animation style and from everything I saw God Eater got the A Team of animators while ufoubw got Z team. |
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| Yeah, the rain is gorgeous. The direction is surprisingly mediocre, though. |
astroprogs said: Yeah, the rain is gorgeous. The direction is surprisingly mediocre, though. Well its no ranpo kitan or rokka no yuusha in terms of directing, but it is still Still above ufofsn. |
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CookingPriest said: astroprogs said: Yeah, the rain is gorgeous. The direction is surprisingly mediocre, though. Well its no ranpo kitan or rokka no yuusha in terms of directing, but it is still Still above ufofsn. I wouldn't go that far lol, it's still the first episode. If i judged ufoUBW as a whole by its prologue, I'd have given it a 10. |
astroprogs said: good thing the prologue has it's own seperate entry so therefore it's really just a Rin special that UFO did just to let you know what you could have gotten then fed you a heaping pile of shit that was shirou and force rin to suck his cockCookingPriest said: Well its no ranpo kitan or rokka no yuusha in terms of directing, but it is still Still above ufofsn. I wouldn't go that far lol, it's still the first episode. If i judged ufoUBW as a whole by its prologue, I'd have given it a 10. |
| Does anyone know how Fate/UBW Second Season was received in Japan? |
| Big Order (TV):great anime or greatest anime? |
| I have a question. |
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Sherou said: no......it.'s...I have a question. |
bobzanny said: Does anyone know how Fate/UBW Second Season was received in Japan? Based on what I've seen from 2chan, they weren't very happy. But I'm just going off word of mouth. |
Caliburn220 said: bobzanny said: Does anyone know how Fate/UBW Second Season was received in Japan? Based on what I've seen from 2chan, they weren't very happy. But I'm just going off word of mouth. All we know is that cour 1 BDs undersold below expectations and that the overall position on yaraon posters was "let's wait and see" when Cour 2 started airing. |
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| If Lancer and Archer had continued their fight who would've won? Another question...who are the top 3 servants in FSN? I remember reading from somewhere it is Gilgamesh>>Saber>>>Archer/Hercules due to their NP, but if so why isn't Lancer up there? I find his NP to be OP because I think it could be spammed and I don't think there's a charge up time for it unlike Archer's UBW. I even think Lancer could beat Gilgamesh with his NP because Lancers are the fastest knight right? Therefore wouldn't he be able to fight Gilgamesh in a 1 on 1 battle? As far as I know Lancer hadn't even lost to anyone yet, only a crap death. |
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| Lancer. 1.Gilgamesh 2.Heracles 3.Artoria Gilgamesh wins against Lancer 1 on 1 in Fate. |
iamUnholy said: If Lancer and Archer had continued their fight who would've won? Another question...who are the top 3 servants in FSN? I remember reading from somewhere it is Gilgamesh>>Saber>>>Archer/Hercules due to their NP, but if so why isn't Lancer up there? I find his NP to be OP because I think it could be spammed and I don't think there's a charge up time for it unlike Archer's UBW. I even think Lancer could beat Gilgamesh with his NP because Lancers are the fastest knight right? Therefore wouldn't he be able to fight Gilgamesh in a 1 on 1 battle? As far as I know Lancer hadn't even lost to anyone yet, only a crap death. Lancer would've won. Archer is not at the top 3 strongest servants. Most servants would wipe the floor with him. Lancer is indeed powerful and his NP is pure hax, but his NP won't help him him against the top 3. Gil has Enkidou and most likely has an anti Gae Bolg NP of his own. Zerker would be killed once and that's it. Saber survived Gae Bolg, but if she was at full strength she'd probably have been able to take him out before he uses it (higher strength stat). The last one can be debated, though. Lancer lost to Gil in Fate. |
astroprogsJul 19, 2015 6:17 AM
| I have played the VN a few years back before the RN version came out. lol the sex scenes I have been planning to play it again with the RN version.But I have heard,this one kinda opens up some major plotholes ,specially in HF.So is it worth it? Also,how was the current adaptation?I haven't really been able to start watching it.Will this one require VN knowledge to fill up the gaps like DEEN or it can stand on its own? |
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| I see, well that kinda makes me feel sad for Archer when he said Rin won't be disappointed with summoning him at the prologue.. |
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Chrisereum said: I have been planning to play it again with the RN version.But I have heard,this one kinda opens up some major plotholes ,specially in HF.So is it worth it? Well you could get a patch that adds the RN scenes but doesn't censor the game, there's plenty out there. http://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/4745-Fate-Stay-Night-Realta-Nua-PC-version-Mirror-Moon-TL-insertion-project Also,how was the current adaptation?I haven't really been able to start watching it.Will this one require VN knowledge to fill up the gaps like DEEN or it can stand on its own? Depends on who you ask, I guess. |
| Ok thanks. iamUnholy said: I see, well that kinda makes me feel sad for Archer when he said Rin won't be disappointed with summoning him at the prologue.. Nothing to be really sad about actually.If Archer actually wanted to win the war,he has the potential of doing so because he does have enough weapons to trouble almost everybody(including Herc)[perils of having UBW].He doesn't necessarily need to engage in CQC to win.Its just that his priorities are more important to him than the war. |
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iamUnholy said: I see, well that kinda makes me feel sad for Archer when he said Rin won't be disappointed with summoning him at the prologue.. Don't underestimate Archer, though. He doesn't look all that powerful because he's being compared to some of the most broken servants in any Fate iteration out there. Archer can defeat every servant from Zero, for example, sans Saber and Gil of course. Hell, he killed Zerker in Fate SIX TIMES and WITHOUT using UBW. Who knows how that would've turned out if UBW was on the field. What he said to Rin in the prologue wasn't him being overconfident. He knows that even he can defeat the most powerful servant out there, if the conditions were right, and his fighting style is knowing exactly how to meet these conditions. |
astroprogs said: Archer can defeat every servant from Zero, for example, sans Saber and Gil of course. Eeeeh.....no. |
astroprogs said: iamUnholy said: I see, well that kinda makes me feel sad for Archer when he said Rin won't be disappointed with summoning him at the prologue.. Don't underestimate Archer, though. He doesn't look all that powerful because he's being compared to some of the most broken servants in any Fate iteration out there. Archer can defeat every servant from Zero, for example, sans Saber and Gil of course. Hell, he killed Zerker in Fate SIX TIMES and WITHOUT using UBW. Who knows how that would've turned out if UBW was on the field. What he said to Rin in the prologue wasn't him being overconfident. He knows that even he can defeat the most powerful servant out there, if the conditions were right, and his fighting style is knowing exactly how to meet these conditions. Also, unlike Saber or Lancer, who have some honor and prefer to charge straight at the opposition(which, suprise suprise, ends badly most of the time), Archer is...well, a jerk. He is pragmatic, rather ruthless, and is very tactical. If he can, he won't engage you in straight combat- he will strike you in the back, attack you when you are occupied by someone else, shoot you from mile's away, use hostages, or preform a long-term gambit just to have a better shot at taking you down. Unlike actually HEROIC Spirits, he is objective driven, and as long as his objective is achived, he's willing to do pretty much anything. This alone can be a more dangerous weapon than any Noble Phantasm. |
| Neither Saber nor Lancer rely on "honor". Lancer prefers a long fight but he does not give a fuck about honor. |
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CookingPriest said: Neither Saber nor Lancer rely on "honor". Lancer prefers a long fight but he does not give a fuck about honor. I was about to comment on this too, but he means they don't stick to the types of tricks like Archer does. Like, I can't see either of them betraying their master the way Archer did. They're more likely to want to have straight battles rather than making super elaborate plans. |
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| I was rewatching Fate/Zero, and I have to ask: why is Gilgamesh from F/Z so different of the Gilgamesh from UBW? How is it that in UBW he becomes obsessed with thoughts of genocide and survival of the fit? While I can guess the reasons (corruption via Grail Mud, disillusion with the modern world) is there any official explanation to this turn in his personality? |
Lacertoss said: I was rewatching Fate/Zero, and I have to ask: why is Gilgamesh from F/Z so different of the Gilgamesh from UBW? How is it that in UBW he becomes obsessed with thoughts of genocide and survival of the fit? While I can guess the reasons (corruption via Grail Mud, disillusion with the modern world) is there any official explanation to this turn in his personality? |
MaloghurstJul 19, 2015 5:53 PM
Lacertoss said: hmmm looking back at ep3 of F/ZI was rewatching Fate/Zero, and I have to ask: why is Gilgamesh from F/Z so different of the Gilgamesh from UBW? How is it that in UBW he becomes obsessed with thoughts of genocide and survival of the fit? While I can guess the reasons (corruption via Grail Mud, disillusion with the modern world) is there any official explanation to this turn in his personality? |
| Does anyone know if Sorrow (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDMXVvHSnJ0) was in UfoUBW at all? I saw someone mention in the comments that it was, but I don't recall hearing it. |
Caliburn220 said: Does anyone know if Sorrow (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDMXVvHSnJ0) was in UfoUBW at all? I saw someone mention in the comments that it was, but I don't recall hearing it. Once in EP13 and another time in EP24. |
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mira-nyan said: CookingPriest said: Neither Saber nor Lancer rely on "honor". Lancer prefers a long fight but he does not give a fuck about honor. I was about to comment on this too, but he means they don't stick to the types of tricks like Archer does. Like, I can't see either of them betraying their master the way Archer did. They're more likely to want to have straight battles rather than making super elaborate plans. Lancer would, I agree. He is quite big on loyalty, but then again and dude's powers are perfect for being dirty, he simply is above that and in most of cases would not need that because of how broken overpowered he is(see: Archer VS Lancer and how Archer did not even have time to be dirty) Saber can be forced into fighting that way if the opponent is like that. She would just prefer it would be "clean and proper" because she is having a childish fit of despair Out of two though Saber is more likely to adapt to that kind of fighting style if forced to, while Lancer would not need that. So Archer would have chance against Saber if he batman-gambits it fast enough, but no matter what he does, he would not win an encounter with Lancer. |
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| I read somewhere that Ciel is no match for any servants.. So, how come that Shirou could defeat one. Is Shirou stronger than Ciel? |
| F0XFIRE said: OP 4 most butthurt bitch on MAL. |
peeyaj said: lel fuck no Ciel would turn shirou into swiss cheese curry. she can probably punch his skull into hamburber meat with her bare fists....I read somewhere that Ciel is no match for any servants.. So, how come that Shirou could defeat one. Is Shirou stronger than Ciel? |
Maloghurst said: peeyaj said: lel fuck no Ciel would turn shirou into swiss cheese curry. she can probably punch his skull into hamburber meat with her bare fists....I read somewhere that Ciel is no match for any servants.. So, how come that Shirou could defeat one. Is Shirou stronger than Ciel? You could just say it's the rock paper scissor effect... |
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| So how is the translation of Strange Fake going? |
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| The first bit has been tl'd for a while. |
| Depends on DAA in question, some are weaker, some are servant level, and some are above servant level. There's no servants in F/SN except Gilgamesh who could beat Nrvnqsr, maybe Saber, since all 666 forms have to be destroyed at once or they return to the primordial chaos and regenerate without truly dying excluding being killed by MEoDP blablabla. Though Nrvnqsrs one of the highest tier DAA's, "pure, supreme vampire" and all, and while he could probably defeat most of the servants, someone like Roa would be considerably easier for them to handle. Though whether you count him as a DAA is another matter. Hmm...(HF) I doubt any of the others will be beating any Dead Apostles, Ancestors or no, and before you ask about traced weapons Strange Fake reveals they cannot be harmed by a Noble Phantasm not wielded by said Noble Phantasms original wielder (though powerful conceptual weapons that aren't NPs are another matter, Richard the Lionheart and Saladin cooperated in the Third Crusade to defeat a Dead Apostle (non-ancestor) well before they were Heroic Spirits). So anyway yeah, Shirou can't, this disadvantage applies to Archer as well. |
stuff said: ^Though can't Kirei from the time of the fourth HGW beat Dead Apostles? Since at that time he could beat even Ciel. Takeuchi: Speaking of strength, who is stronger, Ciel or Kotomine? Nasu: Ciel is overwhelmingly strong, due to her circuits, constitution and immortality. The strength of Kotomine at the time of Zero was due to his abnormally large number of Command Spells and his tenacity towards Kiritsugu. It was truly the brightest moment of his life. The Kotomine at that time could even win against Ciel. Yeeeaaah. Good luck winning against an immortal being who can pin your movement and literally hammer your body to the ground. Nasu says some pretty ridiculous things sometimes. |
| The at that time refers to Kirei facing Kiritsugu, not the Fourth Grail War as a whole. He was in his physical prime, had the most motivation he would ever have and was powered by the command spells. This is in a hypothetical situation where he would be so motivated against Ciel, provided Ciel doesn't have her immortality (presumably) that he beats her, so no, I have my doubts. If he could kill DA's, he'd be member of the Burial Agency, wouldn't he, instead of an Executor. |
Insertanamehere said: The at that time refers to Kirei facing Kiritsugu, not the Fourth Grail War as a whole. He was in his physical prime, had the most motivation he would ever have and was powered by the command spells. This is in a hypothetical situation where he would be so motivated against Ciel, provided Ciel doesn't have her immortality (presumably) that he beats her, so no, I have my doubts. If he could kill DA's, he'd be member of the Burial Agency, wouldn't he, instead of an Executor. Even if we didn't include Ciel's immortality, Kirei just isn't powerful enough to match someone from the BA indeed. What countermeasures can he ever have against someone like Ciel both physically or magically? She'd crush him. Kirei would never be able to fight defensively against Servants, for one. |
astroprogsAug 2, 2015 7:26 PM
| I'm thinking of making a a thread in the club for everyone to share their FGO user ID. How many of you guys are playing ATM? |
astroprogs said: Even if we didn't include Ciel's immortality, Kirei just isn't powerful enough to match someone from the BA indeed. What countermeasures can he ever have against someone like Ciel both physically or magically? She'd crush him. Kirei would never be able to fight defensively against Servants, for one. I think you underestimate Kirei, he is one of the physically strongest people in the Nasuverse. Young Kirei surpasses Bazett, who, rune enhanced, can keep up with servants. And recall he does fight defensively against a servant, and succeeds in his goal. He keeps up with Kiritsugus Time Alter magecraft by simply moving faster, too. Younger Kirei was quite physically powerful. |
Insertanamehere said: astroprogs said: Even if we didn't include Ciel's immortality, Kirei just isn't powerful enough to match someone from the BA indeed. What countermeasures can he ever have against someone like Ciel both physically or magically? She'd crush him. Kirei would never be able to fight defensively against Servants, for one. I think you underestimate Kirei, he is one of the physically strongest people in the Nasuverse. Young Kirei surpasses Bazett, who, rune enhanced, can keep up with servants. And recall he does fight defensively against a servant, and succeeds in his goal. He keeps up with Kiritsugus Time Alter magecraft by simply moving faster, too. Younger Kirei was quite physically powerful. Can she though? The ones in Prillya are weaker than the originals aren't they? I don't think Bazzet can't keep up against a Servant like the ones in F/SN or Zero, with the two exceptions being debatable. Kirei winning that fight is on the same level as Shirou vs Gil, freak circumstances and conditions with a ton of luck and element of surprise were needed. Not one of those conditions apply to a fight with Ciel. Kirei can move fast and IS quite powerful, sure, but we're talking about someone who can survive a FAIR fight with a servant here. |
Insertanamehere said: this is not even counting the 10 command seals which is the deciding factor her against ciel. quite frankly the more i think about it the mroe it even sounds like bullshit that kiritsugu managed to survive as well as he did simply because kirei didnt feel like double tapping a command seal...astroprogs said: Even if we didn't include Ciel's immortality, Kirei just isn't powerful enough to match someone from the BA indeed. What countermeasures can he ever have against someone like Ciel both physically or magically? She'd crush him. Kirei would never be able to fight defensively against Servants, for one. I think you underestimate Kirei, he is one of the physically strongest people in the Nasuverse. Young Kirei surpasses Bazett, who, rune enhanced, can keep up with servants. And recall he does fight defensively against a servant, and succeeds in his goal. He keeps up with Kiritsugus Time Alter magecraft by simply moving faster, too. Younger Kirei was quite physically powerful. |
astroprogs said: I'm thinking of making a a thread in the club for everyone to share their FGO user ID. How many of you guys are playing ATM? I'm not really sure, but let me know if you start the club. |
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KamiCity said: astroprogs said: I'm thinking of making a a thread in the club for everyone to share their FGO user ID. How many of you guys are playing ATM? I'm not really sure, but let me know if you start the club. Sure thing. |
astroprogs said: Insertanamehere said: I think you underestimate Kirei, he is one of the physically strongest people in the Nasuverse. Young Kirei surpasses Bazett, who, rune enhanced, can keep up with servants. And recall he does fight defensively against a servant, and succeeds in his goal. He keeps up with Kiritsugus Time Alter magecraft by simply moving faster, too. Younger Kirei was quite physically powerful. Can she though? The ones in Prillya are weaker than the originals aren't they? I don't think Bazzet can't keep up against a Servant like the ones in F/SN or Zero, with the two exceptions being debatable. Kirei winning that fight is on the same level as Shirou vs Gil, freak circumstances and conditions with a ton of luck and element of surprise were needed. Not one of those conditions apply to a fight with Ciel. Kirei can move fast and IS quite powerful, sure, but we're talking about someone who can survive a FAIR fight with a servant here. Er.....Have you read HA? He can fight defensively, against an average servant (C rank stats) is what Nasu said, not necessarily win. |
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