| Mixing drama with the typically boisterous humor of anime and moeblob features makes an annoying and disturbing contrast. |
| And I almost forgot; Natsume's Book of Friends, Ayakashi Japanese Classical Horror, and Mushishu are also examples of good drama anthologies |
| Twitter and it's consequences had been a disaster for the human race |
| i hate drama |
DrCoppelius said: You don't get to care for the characters before bad stuff is dumped on them. Bad drama makes you feel sad because bad things are happening. Good drama makes you feel sad because you understand and relate to the characters' emotions. That's my take on it anyway. There's always going to be a personal element to what makes good or bad drama though. I liked Evangelion a lot because he reminded me of myself in several ways when I was a few years younger, but some people aren't like him at all, so they end up not relating to him at all and finding him unbearable. It's similar with OreGairu. Lots of people find themselves similar to Hachiman and that makes it easier for the show to create empathy between the viewer and the character, even if the drama isn't that well-done. For someone like me who's a complete opposite to him in various ways, there's simply complete detachment. Not enough people who talk about NGE remember that in many places, kids around the age of Shinji are sent to fight. A bad drama makes you look at a character suffering and tells you, huh, ain't that bad? The character's psychology means nothing. How the character deals with stuff means nothing. There isn't an attempt to say anything about the emotion. A good drama explores an emotion, tries to say something about it. The character must be developed and we need to examine how it copes with the emotions. It leads us back to ourselves, supposed to make us think how we'd deal with the same situation. |
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| Good Drama : Makes me cry Bad Drama : Doesn't make me cry |
| Thread Cleaned I tried to remove as much baiting as possible, though some posts seemed to have been removed by their writers so I might have gotten lost while editing. In case something is too off, please feel free to PM me what I overlooked. Also I removed, spam and other unnecessary posts and put spoilers in tags. Please remember to put spoilers in tags, as it might detract from the users enjoyment. While also refraining from simply stating "show x is bad", try to explain [i]why[i]. |
| Look at the thread directly beneath yours. "What is an asspull" Extrapolate from that a suitable answer to your query. Anyway, to elaborate, characters that behave in impossibly retarded ways just to incite drama create bad drama. Example: Golden Time. (Note, after-season summary I still liked Golden Time enough to rate it a 7, but too many characters acted subhuman throughout) |
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hitokiri1859 said: True that, clannad's moral of the story was, no matter how bad it things get for you there is always hope, and If you wish for deeply enough even miracles are possible. That might sound ridiculous because it is but Since Clannad was initially a fantasy Anime anyway so it tad bit easier to accept the way it handles itself. Not to mention there were several foreshadowing Well the one thing about Clannad is you have drama which doesn't end bad there's some hidden moral of the story whether you can put together what it is but that's how all of key's works end up being. Some drama anime ends up being stressful similar to how life can be drama filled especially around certain people. That kind of drama doesn't give you a good happy feeling especially when it ends up going though the anime being nothing but drama. We get enough of that irl we don't always want our anime to be drama filled or put us in a real depressing mood. and proof is when Tomoya has this family conversation with Nagisa's dad and he tells him how the town they live in actually is contained with mysterious super natural powers. Thus the show prepares you for it earlier on. Aria-da-Capo said: This is actually true for many people, but I have grown to accomodate myself with moe so it sits quite ok with me, though I can't deny the fact that it is in fact a cancer of anime industry, a guilty pleasure of sort that is getting out of hand.Mixing drama with the typically boisterous humor of anime and moeblob features makes an annoying and disturbing contrast. bukalaka said: ExTamplier said: exactly my thoughts,I am a avid fan of oregiaru series but season 2 was a dissapointment. literally nothing happened, hachiman is a not the same anymore, he was much cooler with his harsh yet on point personality. The moment he cried I dropped the show, but picked it right up few days later hoping to see some good end drama but again, i got nothing, Season 1 8.7 out of 10 season 2 is 5.2 out of 10 and i am being rather generous here. oh and it baffles me how people think shigatsu hard good drama, i have watched far too many dramas to know shigatsu was absolute shit, and i mean it.Shigatsu, "oh boy, let's make an anime about poorly recorded on digital music with crappy animation, and kill the girl for "drama"" Go watch "Nodame Cantabile" or "Kids on the Slope" to see how it is done right. Yahari, (season 2 only) http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1399180 WA2, man there is just so much crap I can write about this absolute unrealistic show. Too bad I am lazy, so I'll make it short: Just because you give a spineless mc a gf, add few episodes in between, and then he cheats on her does not make it a good drama/show. |
bukalakaJul 15, 2015 9:45 AM
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Power_Logic said: bukalaka said: exactly my thoughts,I am a avid fan of oregiaru series but season 2 was a dissapointment. literally nothing happened, hachiman is a not the same anymore, he was much cooler with his harsh yet on point personality. The moment he cried I dropped the show, but picked it right up few days later hoping to see some good end drama but again, i got nothing, Season 1 8.7 out of 10 season 2 is 5.2 out of 10 and i am being rather generous here. oh and it baffles me how people think shigatsu hard good drama, i have watched far too many dramas to know shigatsu was absolute shit, and i mean it. It's pretty obvious you don't know the light novel. It's called character development... Hikkigaya is softening up just like in the light novel. I 'm pretty sure there will also be people complaining if Hikkigaya was still the same guy in season 1 episode 1. people change and the LN and the anime adaptation of the LN captured that change with a realistic point of view. That kind of portrayal is quite unique in anime and Light novels, though the drama is still too corny and the crying scene LOL even hikkigaya himself was so embarrassed by it. You cannot really please everyone... a lot of people say nothing really happened in season 2 actually a lot of development happened among the characters. there are also some other shit happening like what's the deal with yukino and her family, is yui a bisexual hahaha , wut iroha's true colors dat bitch? when will hikki and sensi fuck? will hikki turn gay for totsuka and hikki has like this harem but it's not really a harem??? the anime has a slow pace mood, it was probably a drag to most people who watched it and hikki was not doing the cool things he was doing like in season 1. that's probably why some dislike or didn't appreciate season 2 doesnt change the fact season 2 was tedious and cringe worthy, and once again, there is no character development, sure hikki changed, but he didn't change into a better person, or stronger (character), he changed into a different person, and that's just not ok at all. Also yes, lot of events took place in season 2, but why are people unsatisfied with it? because it was completely uninteresting and trival matters were made to appear deep and meaningful. Also the show focuses on people characters who have nothing to provide expect for being plot devices. Their introductions took up a lot of screen time which could have been used for developing their main characters, also plot progression. I swear this anime is turning onto something its not and just for the sake of the current hype " DEM FEELS YOOOO". do correct me if i am wrong but thats the impression it leaves... also that forced drama... totally uncalled for. I know I am being overly harsh on this anime in particular but that's only because I had high expectations from it. I have waited a looooooooooong time for season 2 and it wasn't even done right, i was left disappointed. Season 1 was a smooth sail and season 2 is slow as hell, you say light novel and this and that crap but that really doesn't justify their wrong way of handling things. Well sure the sure might redeem itself with better quality contents with season 3 or 4 but that still doesn't change the fact s2 was disappointing. pardon dem typos |
| I'm never wrong. I once thought I was wrong, turns out, I was mistaken. |
| Bad drama is when drama is made for the sake of drama. It pushes things at your face and screams at you to cry. Good drama don't need to do that, because it will make you sympathize and/or cry without needing to tell you do it. For a very good example of bad drama, see Angel Beats ending or the entirety of Plastic Memories. As for good drama, I'm afraid I don't really have any examples at the moment, not because I haven't seen any, but rather because I can't remember any (seriously, fuck my memory). |
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| All dramas are emotionally exploitative by default. Even that scene in The Lion King when Simba sees his dead dad after that stampede pushes you to cry. The difference between that compared to some really bad drama out there is that it's firing on more than just making you cry to get a reaction out of you. I'd go in more detail, but it's hard to put in words. |
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| For me, bad drama is forced. Like if a character reacts completely irrationally or out of character. Good drama should be built up and believable within the realms of the story. |
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| Bad drama is when I'm sitting there thinking that everything is predictable and used inefficiently as a means of developing the character. Good drama is stuff that is actually meaningful in a way to get viewer to think and emphasize with others which makes for some good understanding of the character involved while being consolidated with the overall development. |
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Loli-Sazanami said: Good Drama : It has to be meaningful, the event that was happening must feel natural and realistic, some done right backstories might give them actual character development. Ex : Monster, Nana, Rose of Versailes, Revolutionary Girl Utena, Princess Tutu, War in the Pocket, Planetes, Blue Gender, Usagi Drop and Neon Genesis Evangelion. Bad Drama : If Main characters were teenagers, Forced drama that feels unnatural, Killing the characters for the sake of making you cry, Fake Character development with no buildup, if the art looks like otaku pandering garbage. Ex : All anime made by Jun Maeda like Clannad and Angel Beats, Puella Magi Madoka Magica, Plastic Memories, Shigatsu, Nagi no Asakura, Kokoro Connect, Glasslip, Sakurasou, Toradora, Akame ga Kill, Ano Hana, Elfen Lied, Fairy Tail, Naruto, Guilty Crown, SAO, Oreimo, Tokyo Ghoul, Vampire Knight, Terraformars, and every single modern seasonal anime with drama genre on it. TokonatsuYuu said: When they kill off characters and/or only throw in an random tragic backstory for the sake of making you cry.  |
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