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Makaze_no_Moujuu said: Raziel1991 said: Except this is not true. Take this episode for example, Marito was the one who figured out the ability of the new kat and was also the one who lured him into Inahos line of fire, I would say thats being competent. All Inaho did was doing those shots. And by the way there are some pretty good reasons as to why he is the "best" at least in this season. He is a cyborg, that makes him superhuman in more ways than one. He was going to die. Even Marito says that he only survived because of Inaho conveniently being in communication range. Inaho has been the best since his first battle. Yes, the eye is now a good reason why he would be, but he was already better than every single Terran soldier even before that. Inaho was not "conviniently" in communication range, it was stated from the very beginning of the episode that the Deucalion would be in that area. |
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TheUnbiasedOne91 said: Really wish the characters could at least be semi competent on thir own without Inaho. That's too much to ask for in this show >.>" Meanwhile, Slaine is the only on receiving any character development; still going strong for team Slaine Same here. Tho Marito did progress a bit. |
aku_haru said: Darklight0303 said: You just made my day Well birds of a feather tend to stick together Beware the birds! pruuuu [/quote] Haha Darklight and Seujair (and you too CookingPriest) Jesus Christ, you guys are so funny. This anime is stupid fun to me, but you guys take almost a religious stance on Slaine Troyard. I mean you guys really get rock hard talking about how much you hate him. Have you guys ever considered the possibility of meeting up somewhere, and possibily...dating? I know both of you guys seem to have a mental disorder, and that's ok, but try to control it to some degree. Literally every page of every post has at least 1 comment from you guys and it's always the same thing. Even though I love seeing Darklight's homoerotic love poems to Slaine, I'm pretty sure he blocked me a couple months ago so I cant give him my thoughts anymore. I am actually perplexed about you, Seujair. You're always crying about how A/Z isn't a "mech anime" and how Slaine isn't a "mech character". What the fuck does that even mean lol? Are genres supposed to follow a strict outline of how a show is supposed to be? Also, every time someone insults Inaho's story or how bad of a character Inaho is you freaking lose it. I mean, you turn in small novels shouting about how terrible a character Slaine is, ignoring that the person never even mentioned Slaine. At least with Darklight, I know that he is secretly in love with Slaine. But with you, I feel you are just really angry about everything. It's pretty funny either way though. 10/10 |
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Raziel1991 said: Makaze_no_Moujuu said: He was going to die. Even Marito says that he only survived because of Inaho conveniently being in communication range. Inaho has been the best since his first battle. Yes, the eye is now a good reason why he would be, but he was already better than every single Terran soldier even before that. Inaho was not "conviniently" in communication range, it was stated from the very beginning of the episode that the Deucalion would be in that area. I still find it convenient. Why can't Yuki and Marito save themselves? Why does Inaho always have to be there. It makes them look bad, when they should be so much better and prominent. |
Inaho_ said: As much as i like Inaho i'm starting to get annoyed by him constantly saving everyone at the right time. When Marito and Yuki were fighting that vers mech, i just knew Inaho was going to appear as soon as they started struggling. Those other characters such as Marito, Yuki, Imko and especially Rayet have potential. Mark my words, Inaho will save them next episode too. It's starting to get tedious. Out of all of them, i believe Rayet has huge potential of becoming a strong pilot who can compete and own vers's mechs single handedly. I like this anime, but things needs to be changed. yes Slaine continues to kill, kill, kill, and betray, cheat, betray each episode. Very good your observation TheUnbiasedOne91 said: Really wish the characters could at least be semi competent on thir own without Inaho. That's too much to ask for in this show >.>" Meanwhile, Slaine is the only on receiving any character development; still going strong for team Slaine beautiful development for a mecha pilot, a super robot that predicts the future, and a clever servant, doing the calculations and battle tactics also very desenvolveo a Yandere to a madman who kills several people and betrays everyone, name of a person in a coma that beautiful development, Errado? |
Makaze_no_Moujuu said: I still find it convenient. Why can't Yuki and Marito save themselves? Why does Inaho always have to be there. It makes them look bad, when they should be so much better and prominent. So because you say so is your answer? It wasn't convenient, it was stated that they were going to be there, and it was stated that Marito sent a signal to get there attention. Your issue is that it was Inaho that was doing it. Why does that matter? It was all done by Marito, Inaho just fired a shot. |
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Raziel1991Jan 31, 2015 4:15 PM
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Makaze_no_Moujuu said: Darklight0303 said: Because he didn't approach the technologically superior enemy as a soldier. He examined them as a scientist and on the fly came up with counter measures after putting the pieces together. But I guess that's too subtle for the likes of you Well, both him and Yuki did that. In fact, Yuki noticed it first. To be honest, I was hoping that Inaho would've died so that Yuki and Marito could take the main Terran roles, and so that they could be BAs. the one who deserves to die is the name Slaine monster, I hope the director, make use of the true word justice. Those who commit crimes pay for their crimes, so why fanboy Slaine, treat it as the second coming of Jesus Christ, they think everything Slaine does is right and he does not deserve to pay for their crimes. I hope Slaine has a painful death that sticking his two eyes, and the princess kiss Inaho in front of him, he has to pay for all the shit that made Slaine next to Makoto Itou - School Days are triggered the worst characters, the last 20 years. The two act like animals, are extremely disgusting, and not think about the consequences of their actions |
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| lol for once i thought we were gonna get a fight that didn't end with Inaho saving everyones ass even from space he makes it just in time! |
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Raziel1991 said: The same thing can be said about yourself, you freaking lose it when someone says something negative about Slaine. What? I'm rarely on here. I just give my thoughts and move on. I don't even consider Slaine a great character, I am just starved for any kind of of character development on this god forsaken writing staff that anything is welcomed. I don't care if Slaine becomes the despicable villain, at least he is evolving as a character. Inaho's character was ruined from episode 1. He literally denies any sort of development from any other character when he renders them useless in fights. Nobody gets to shine other than Inaho, and that's what I find enraging about this show. |
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ingvarfed said: The way Inaho took down that count is quite peculiar, he specifically missed the pilot by taking more difficult shots to disable mecha's arms. If I were to guess it may turn into alliance of some kind between Earth and few Orbital Knights, as they are clearly the least unified among the three existing "factions" in this series. It will also provide the perfect way for the truth about Sazbaum's death to come to light |
| Slaine destroys an entire base all by himself but he does not deserve to be called OP simply because he is Slaine. Inaho kills a martian Kat? OMG piece of shit Gary stu. |
Raziel1991Jan 31, 2015 4:26 PM
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Darklight0303 said: ingvarfed said: The way Inaho took down that count is quite peculiar, he specifically missed the pilot by taking more difficult shots to disable mecha's arms. If I were to guess it may turn into alliance of some kind between Earth and few Orbital Knights, as they are clearly the least unified among the three existing "factions" in this series. It will also provide the perfect way for the truth about Sazbaum's death to come to light To be fair, Saaz only died because he interfered. If he doesn't attack Inaho, he doesn't died the way he did. |
Savethebestforu said: Raziel1991 said: The same thing can be said about yourself, you freaking lose it when someone says something negative about Slaine. What? I'm rarely on here. I just give my thoughts and move on. I don't even consider Slaine a great character, I am just starved for any kind of of character development on this god forsaken writing staff that anything is welcomed. I don't care if Slaine becomes the despicable villain, at least he is evolving as a character. Inaho's character was ruined from episode 1. He literally denies any sort of development from any other character when he renders them useless in fights. Nobody gets to shine other than Inaho, and that's what I find enraging about this show. So usefulness in a fight now equals character development. Great I learn something new every day. |
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| And history repeats itself yet again with inaho swooping in to save the day. I know inaho was always a gary stu but at least in the first season there was some plot progression inbetween his bouts of showing off his awesome mecha skills. This season has pretty much become episodic where the only reason im tuning in is to see how inaho defeats this weeks big baddie. Well, at least Marito's back, so I guess there's potential for something interesting happening there. |
Makaze_no_Moujuu said: Darklight0303 said: It will also provide the perfect way for the truth about Sazbaum's death to come to light To be fair, Saaz only died because he interfered. If he doesn't attack Inaho, he doesn't died the way he did. It doesn't change the fact that it was Slaine that killed him and not the Terrans like he said. |
skudoops said: KamiAlice said: Because Aldnoah only gives them one ability, it's pretty simple to figure it out. Aldnoah is the activating factor, Aldnoah is the thing that grants the abilities. Plus it separates them so there isn't an overpowered ruler between them. You are basically asking why every nation in the world doesn't have the same types of nukes. Why doesn't Russia build the same type of weaponry as the US and China? Why don't we give Intel to other nations in our planet? Oh thats right because we don't trust eachother. Do you believe the Orbital Knights trust eachother? This is factually incorrect since saazbum's mech had the anti-matter shield, missiles and the controllable arms. All parts scavenged from the defeated knights |
seujair31 said: the one who deserves to die is the name Slaine monster, I hope the director, make use of the true word justice. Those who commit crimes pay for their crimes, so why fanboy Slaine, treat it as the second coming of Jesus Christ, they think everything Slaine does is right and he does not deserve to pay for their crimes. I hope Slaine has a painful death that sticking his two eyes, and the princess kiss Inaho in front of him, he has to pay for all the shit that made Slaine next to Makoto Itou - School Days are triggered the worst characters, the last 20 years. The two act like animals, are extremely disgusting, and not think about the consequences of their actions This right here. You can't buy entertainment this good. This is platinum rage. Fragmented, raw, and seething. |
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skudoops said: KamiAlice said: Because Aldnoah only gives them one ability, it's pretty simple to figure it out. Aldnoah is the activating factor, Aldnoah is the thing that grants the abilities. Plus it separates them so there isn't an overpowered ruler between them. You are basically asking why every nation in the world doesn't have the same types of nukes. Why doesn't Russia build the same type of weaponry as the US and China? Why don't we give Intel to other nations in our planet? Oh thats right because we don't trust eachother. Do you believe the Orbital Knights trust eachother? This is factually incorrect since saazbum's mech had the anti-matter shield, missiles and the controllable arms. You mean after he merged right? Which would mean he had the trust of those others that merged with him. There is nothing incorrect about what I stated. If the orbital knights trusted eachother they could probably do the same. They don't though, So what I stated still stands. |
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Raziel1991 said: Slaine destroys an entire base all by himself but he does not deserve to be called OP simply because he is Slaine. Inaho kills a martian Kat? OMG piece of shit Gary stu. Is this directed at Darklight, or me? Him, and that other guy (seij-something), keep saying he's trash. Slaine can see the future for 6 hours, plus is already a competent pilot. He should've been able to do that. Yes, this means he's OP as well. When you create an OP protagonist, you have to balance the scales with an OP rival/antagonist. |
KamiAlice said: Vanisher said: And about fending off the attack, the martians were there and slaine have just announced to continue the war, it didn't really made much sense. Yes you could make up some logic about it and all, but the truth is that it's not in the show at all, nothing was mentioned about them going back because the attack was fended off, in fact they even said that they don't know why they are going back. It's a recurring problem with the show, it's gives little to none information, we can make up things but it's simply giving excuses for the show. Like what's up with flying terran mechs? why have they not been mentioned before? where did slaine learn to pilot kataphracts? why and who gave the eye to inaho? why haven't they used that technology for a kataphract or a ship? why there have been absolutely no mention of asseylum sister before? etc etc You are the one nitpicking So them returning to their base doesn't make much sense? Really? It makes more sense that they would return to their base after Slaines speech since they would need to prepare. It's logical, they went did their mission and returned in order to restock and prepare. So your issue is that it doesn't spoon feed things to you? It's not making things up, it's called deductive reasoning. what's up with flying terran mechs? why have they not been mentioned before? They are some of earth's technology, they weren't mentioned before because the first season dealt with a bunch of survivors of an attack from a city on a boat trying to get to a refugee camp in Russia. We didn't need any mention of them before this because the focus wasn't on the war, the focus was on Inaho and crew trying to get to Russia. Where did slaine learn to pilot kataphracts? Probably the same place he learned to pilot the carrier he used in season 1. Plus it's been almost 2 years since he got it, wouldn't it make sense that he's been training this whole time? There is no mention of them being difficult to handle, there is only mention of a person needing to be allowed to use them. Why and who gave the eye to inaho? Some doctor, why does that matter? Inaho stated it was a beta, meaning it's being tested. There's your why. Inaho is a guinea pig for this technology. Why haven't they used that technology for a kataphract or a ship? BETA. Inaho is a Guinea pig for this techonology. They might/might not use it in the future. Plus Inaho is a genius, what good is technology if it can't be used by the rest of them? why there have been absolutely no mention of asseylum sister before? 1st season was about a bunch of survivors on a boat trying to get to Russia. There was little focus on the martian side of things. The ambitions of Sausbamm wasn't mentioned until the final few episodes. Now the focus has shifted more to the martian side of things, it makes more sense for an illegitimate heir to show up now that we are seeing things more from the martian side of things. As I said, you are just making excuses for the show. It's not about spoon feeding, it's about proper foreshadow and world building. Lol'd at "why does it matter" when we are talking about a broken as fuck power that was given to the main character out of nowhere, it totally doesn't matter... |
Darklight0303 said: Makaze_no_Moujuu said: To be fair, Saaz only died because he interfered. If he doesn't attack Inaho, he doesn't died the way he did. It doesn't change the fact that it was Slaine that killed him and not the Terrans like he said. Technically, it was the Terrans: Inaho saw the attack coming, and tricked Saaz into it. Slaine just watched it happen. |
Savethebestforu said: Raziel1991 said: The same thing can be said about yourself, you freaking lose it when someone says something negative about Slaine. What? I'm rarely on here. I just give my thoughts and move on. I don't even consider Slaine a great character, I am just starved for any kind of of character development on this god forsaken writing staff that anything is welcomed. I don't care if Slaine becomes the despicable villain, at least he is evolving as a character. Inaho's character was ruined from episode 1. He literally denies any sort of development from any other character when he renders them useless in fights. Nobody gets to shine other than Inaho, and that's what I find enraging about this show. Inaho has had character development though, it was just more subtle. After his time with the princess he is slowly starting to show more emotions. And he never rendered useless the other characters. Im not sure what you are talking about. Inaho needed in most fights the help of others to win battles. He needed help against Trilliam, the first fight against Vlad, against Femianne, Saazbaum and the count of this episode. This whole "Inaho renders other character completly useless in fights" is utter bullshit. |
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Makaze_no_Moujuu said: Darklight0303 said: It doesn't change the fact that it was Slaine that killed him and not the Terrans like he said. Technically, it was the Terrans: Inaho saw the attack coming, and tricked Saaz into it. Slaine just watched it happen. Slaine could have pulled Sazbaum out. He did not. That makes him the killer. PLUS it was his bullets. |
Savethebestforu said: aku_haru said: Well birds of a feather tend to stick together Beware the birds! pruuuu Haha Darklight and Seujair (and you too CookingPriest) Jesus Christ, you guys are so funny. This anime is stupid fun to me, but you guys take almost a religious stance on Slaine Troyard. I mean you guys really get rock hard talking about how much you hate him. Have you guys ever considered the possibility of meeting up somewhere, and possibily...dating? I know both of you guys seem to have a mental disorder, and that's ok, but try to control it to some degree. Literally every page of every post has at least 1 comment from you guys and it's always the same thing. Even though I love seeing Darklight's homoerotic love poems to Slaine, I'm pretty sure he blocked me a couple months ago so I cant give him my thoughts anymore. I am actually perplexed about you, Seujair. You're always crying about how A/Z isn't a "mech anime" and how Slaine isn't a "mech character". What the fuck does that even mean lol? Are genres supposed to follow a strict outline of how a show is supposed to be? Also, every time someone insults Inaho's story or how bad of a character Inaho is you freaking lose it. I mean, you turn in small novels shouting about how terrible a character Slaine is, ignoring that the person never even mentioned Slaine. At least with Darklight, I know that he is secretly in love with Slaine. But with you, I feel you are just really angry about everything. It's pretty funny either way though. 10/10[/quote] Of course I have to get angry, when direct says Aldnoah.Zero came to the Gundam franchise will replace, and that Aldnoah.Zero surpass the franchise Gundam. Qualque mecha fan goes crazy when instead of using elements of mecha genre, it makes use of scientific fantasy, turning the series into a kind of power rangers. Face scientific fanstasia, totally different from the mecha genre the main feature of the mecha genre is related to the pilot if he makes use of other external resources, to win their battles, it is considered a bad pilot, and Slaine makes clear use of a super robot that predicts the future, and a servant who makes calculations and tactical battles, if not these resources he would be dead. If the director said that the principa theme is anime mecha, and clearly said that the main theme is anime Robo real against super-robot. |
KamiAlice said: Savethebestforu said: What? I'm rarely on here. I just give my thoughts and move on. I don't even consider Slaine a great character, I am just starved for any kind of of character development on this god forsaken writing staff that anything is welcomed. I don't care if Slaine becomes the despicable villain, at least he is evolving as a character. Inaho's character was ruined from episode 1. He literally denies any sort of development from any other character when he renders them useless in fights. Nobody gets to shine other than Inaho, and that's what I find enraging about this show. So usefulness in a fight now equals character development. Great I learn something new every day. Ok, I agree with you that what I said isn't right in a general sense. However, this show doesn't have a lot of scenes that don't involve action. This means that a lot of development has to happen during battles. It's kind of what happens in shounens even though I'm usually not a fan of them. Inaho steals any scene he's in, and not in a good way. You can't just have Inaho sweeping in every battle or finishing the enemy and expect any characters to progress or become interesting. It's part of the reason that the Deucalion crew is so stale, because they are on Inaho's team. |
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Vanisher said: KamiAlice said: You are the one nitpicking So them returning to their base doesn't make much sense? Really? It makes more sense that they would return to their base after Slaines speech since they would need to prepare. It's logical, they went did their mission and returned in order to restock and prepare. So your issue is that it doesn't spoon feed things to you? It's not making things up, it's called deductive reasoning. what's up with flying terran mechs? why have they not been mentioned before? They are some of earth's technology, they weren't mentioned before because the first season dealt with a bunch of survivors of an attack from a city on a boat trying to get to a refugee camp in Russia. We didn't need any mention of them before this because the focus wasn't on the war, the focus was on Inaho and crew trying to get to Russia. Where did slaine learn to pilot kataphracts? Probably the same place he learned to pilot the carrier he used in season 1. Plus it's been almost 2 years since he got it, wouldn't it make sense that he's been training this whole time? There is no mention of them being difficult to handle, there is only mention of a person needing to be allowed to use them. Why and who gave the eye to inaho? Some doctor, why does that matter? Inaho stated it was a beta, meaning it's being tested. There's your why. Inaho is a guinea pig for this technology. Why haven't they used that technology for a kataphract or a ship? BETA. Inaho is a Guinea pig for this techonology. They might/might not use it in the future. Plus Inaho is a genius, what good is technology if it can't be used by the rest of them? why there have been absolutely no mention of asseylum sister before? 1st season was about a bunch of survivors on a boat trying to get to Russia. There was little focus on the martian side of things. The ambitions of Sausbamm wasn't mentioned until the final few episodes. Now the focus has shifted more to the martian side of things, it makes more sense for an illegitimate heir to show up now that we are seeing things more from the martian side of things. As I said, you are just making excuses for the show. It's not about spoon feeding, it's about proper foreshadow and world building. Except it's not excuses, It's called reading between the lines. The show doesn't need to answer these things for you, your supposed to come up with them on your own. Oh and for your "broken as fuck power." Where exactly is it? All I see is Inaho has a computer in his eye that helps him do calculations better even though the majority still comes from him because he's a genius. It's like stating a calculator is a broken as fuck machine because it helps mathematicians do equations a lot faster than normal. Slaine on the other hand does have a broken as fuck power that comes from a techonology that was mentioned from the very first episode. So the foreshadowing was there. |
KamiCityJan 31, 2015 4:35 PM
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katsu044 said: lol for once i thought we were gonna get a fight that didn't end with Inaho saving everyones ass even from space he makes it just in time! also thought it would spend an episode without seeing Slaine destroying something, killing people or cheating |
ingvarfed said: Darklight0303 said: It will also provide the perfect way for the truth about Sazbaum's death to come to light It will hardly influence Slaine as long as he gain a bunch of followers. For now he fills the role of Sazbaum quite effectively and nurtures the idea of so-called "revolution". I won't be surprised if he will cause a war between Martian clans. It is still unclear where his loyalty stays and what form it will take. Except that him being Sazbaum's killer will cost him in the eyes of the other counts and Sazbaum's sympathizers. Some will side wiht Slaine but some will definitely not take to the news kindly. After all they signed on for Sazbaum not his judas of a son. |
Savethebestforu said: KamiAlice said: So usefulness in a fight now equals character development. Great I learn something new every day. Ok, I agree with you that what I said isn't right in a general sense. However, this show doesn't have a lot of scenes that don't involve action. This means that a lot of development has to happen during battles. It's kind of what happens in shounens even though I'm usually not a fan of them. Inaho steals any scene he's in, and not in a good way. You can't just have Inaho sweeping in every battle or finishing the enemy and expect any characters to progress or become interesting. It's part of the reason that the Deucalion crew is so stale, because they are on Inaho's team. It doesn't though, the development to most of the characters comes when they are not in battle. Rayet, Marito, Yuki, and the princess have gotten most of their development when they were out of battle. Marito is the only one who's progression ties into the battles. I will agree that the second season has become a lot more action heavy than the first though, so it is harder to get development in without the battles. Even so, we are only 4 episodes in so we will have to wait to see if there is some. |
KamiCityJan 31, 2015 4:37 PM
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| also thought it would spend an episode without seeing Slaine destroying something, killing people or cheating Lemrina mentions Saazbaum name, Slaine monster acts as if nothing had happened, and when shot Inaho, simple he always blames others, and the forest, to play the blame for their actions on others |
| So to just get it right - People DO realize that the plan in this episode and the execution of it WAS Marito's and NOT Inaho's, right? Or are people lacking in attention spans to even notice that much, considering all I see is people bitching about Inaho saving the day "again". |
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| Sweet, I liked the Middle Eastern setting that today's fight took place in. They're really going out of their way to show that this war is global (and in space!). Obligatory OST praise. |
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KamiAlice said: Savethebestforu said: Ok, I agree with you that what I said isn't right in a general sense. However, this show doesn't have a lot of scenes that don't involve action. This means that a lot of development has to happen during battles. It's kind of what happens in shounens even though I'm usually not a fan of them. Inaho steals any scene he's in, and not in a good way. You can't just have Inaho sweeping in every battle or finishing the enemy and expect any characters to progress or become interesting. It's part of the reason that the Deucalion crew is so stale, because they are on Inaho's team. It doesn't though, the development to most of the characters comes when they are not in battle. Rayet, Marito, Yuki, and the princess have gotten most of their development when they were out of battle. Marito is the only one who's progression ties into the battles. But none of that is affecting their character. It's not quality development. They are supposed to be in a war, right? This is the perfect time for characters to rise and fall in the wake of battle and earn their fans or their haters...but that's the thing. None of the characters on Earth except for Inaho have really...done anything. Rayet had some potential before she joined Inaho, but she lost everything now that all she does is hold Inaho's jock. There is no individuality in any of the characters anymore other than Inaho. Calm, Yuki, Rayet, Inko, Blonde haired ponytail (name?); they are all bystanders to Inaho's greatness on and off the battlefield. His is wiser than all of them, more powerful than all of them, and smarter than all all of them. None of the characters have any strengths that Inaho doesn't already possess to a higher degree. Unless you are LeLouch, it's basically impossible to carry a show single handledly like this. I guess I just want/wanted more from Earth |
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Darklight0303 said: ingvarfed said: Saazbaum never betrayed Slaine, he always made clear his intençãoes killing Asseylum. Saazaum even saved Slaine, and Tharsis left for him, and invited him to work with. Slaine it is an evil character because of his unhealthy obsession, he just makes shit It will hardly influence Slaine as long as he gain a bunch of followers. For now he fills the role of Sazbaum quite effectively and nurtures the idea of so-called "revolution". I won't be surprised if he will cause a war between Martian clans. It is still unclear where his loyalty stays and what form it will take. Except that him being Sazbaum's killer will cost him in the eyes of the other counts and Sazbaum's sympathizers. Some will side wiht Slaine but some will definitely not take to the news kindly. After all they signed on for Sazbaum not his judas of a son. Saazbaum never betrayed Slaine, he always made clear his intençãoes killing Asseylum. Saazaum even saved Slaine, and Tharsis left for him, and invited him to work with. Slaine it is an evil character because of his unhealthy obsession, he just makes shit |
Savethebestforu said: KamiAlice said: It doesn't though, the development to most of the characters comes when they are not in battle. Rayet, Marito, Yuki, and the princess have gotten most of their development when they were out of battle. Marito is the only one who's progression ties into the battles. But none of that is affecting their character. It's not quality development. They are supposed to be in a war, right? This is the perfect time for characters to rise and fall in the wake of battle and earn their fans or their haters...but that's the thing. None of the characters on Earth except for Inaho have really...done anything. Rayet had some potential before she joined Inaho, but she lost everything now that all she does is hold Inaho's jock. There is no individuality in any of the characters anymore other than Inaho. Calm, Yuki, Rayet, Inko, Blonde haired ponytail (name?); they are all bystanders to Inaho's greatness on and off the battlefield. His is wiser than all of them, more powerful than all of them, and smarter than all all of them. None of the characters have any strengths that Inaho doesn't already possess to a higher degree. Unless you are LeLouch, it's basically impossible to carry a show single handledly like this. I guess I just want/wanted more from Earth I'll agree that I want more from the earth characters, but i'll repeat we are only 4 episodes into the new season. You can't say there is no individuality with the other characters when you have Rayet, Yuki, and Marito who have already showed a lot more than even Inaho. I'll agree I was hoping to see more out of Inko and Calm but who knows with those 2. I guarantee you we'll get more for the 3 previously mentioned as the story goes along. In fact, this episode was all Marito. We've already seen huge progression on his part, given that last season he couldn't even leave the hanger. |
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Darklight0303 said: Makaze_no_Moujuu said: Technically, it was the Terrans: Inaho saw the attack coming, and tricked Saaz into it. Slaine just watched it happen. Slaine could have pulled Sazbaum out. He did not. That makes him the killer. PLUS it was his bullets. Failing to save Saaz doesn't make him the killer. Saaz killed himself, by involving himself in Slaine's fight. |
Savethebestforu said: KamiAlice said: It doesn't though, the development to most of the characters comes when they are not in battle. Rayet, Marito, Yuki, and the princess have gotten most of their development when they were out of battle. Marito is the only one who's progression ties into the battles. But none of that is affecting their character. It's not quality development. They are supposed to be in a war, right? This is the perfect time for characters to rise and fall in the wake of battle and earn their fans or their haters...but that's the thing. None of the characters on Earth except for Inaho have really...done anything. Rayet had some potential before she joined Inaho, but she lost everything now that all she does is hold Inaho's jock. There is no individuality in any of the characters anymore other than Inaho. Calm, Yuki, Rayet, Inko, Blonde haired ponytail (name?); they are all bystanders to Inaho's greatness on and off the battlefield. His is wiser than all of them, more powerful than all of them, and smarter than all all of them. None of the characters have any strengths that Inaho doesn't already possess to a higher degree. Unless you are LeLouch, it's basically impossible to carry a show single handledly like this. I guess I just want/wanted more from Earth and what are the qualities of the Martians, super powers, Nazi ideals, racism, pride, robots with powers over natural, you criticize the characters of land, more Martians are also sucks, and Slaine, if not his super robots they would have died a long time. The side of the Martians is not overshadowed by the powers of Tharsis, which has the foresees the future device, and a super speed, Thasis overshadows all other Martians wicks, Ta clear so you know to attack the Terrans, because your character is on the side of the Martians are all stupid, because you did not mention that Tharsis overshadows all other strands Martians, because so he has that super speed, and can predict the future, and that the servant who plays the role of L-elf to Slaine. Tharsis overshadows the Martians. For the first time a mecha, plays the role of a character |
seujair31Jan 31, 2015 5:00 PM
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KamiAlice said: Savethebestforu said: But none of that is affecting their character. It's not quality development. They are supposed to be in a war, right? This is the perfect time for characters to rise and fall in the wake of battle and earn their fans or their haters...but that's the thing. None of the characters on Earth except for Inaho have really...done anything. Rayet had some potential before she joined Inaho, but she lost everything now that all she does is hold Inaho's jock. There is no individuality in any of the characters anymore other than Inaho. Calm, Yuki, Rayet, Inko, Blonde haired ponytail (name?); they are all bystanders to Inaho's greatness on and off the battlefield. His is wiser than all of them, more powerful than all of them, and smarter than all all of them. None of the characters have any strengths that Inaho doesn't already possess to a higher degree. Unless you are LeLouch, it's basically impossible to carry a show single handledly like this. I guess I just want/wanted more from Earth I'll agree that I want more from the earth characters, but i'll repeat we are only 4 episodes into the new season. You can't say there is no individuality with the other characters when you have Rayet, Yuki, and Marito who have already showed a lot more than even Inaho. I'll agree I was hoping to see more out of Inko and Calm but who knows with those 2. I guarantee you we'll get more for the 3 previously mentioned as the story goes along. In fact, this episode was all Marito. We've already seen huge progression on his part, given that last season he couldn't even leave the hanger. Although the fight was satisfying, I was still hoping that, for once, Earth will achieve victory without Mr The-Only-Capable-Pilot-On-Earth...I guess this is what I'm saying. They didn't even need Inaho in that battle. Lieutenant Marito worked out that he could use satellites to look at its gravity field from above, so he could also have worked out that it only acts horizontally on his own too. Then he just needed to come up with a way to hit it from above (do those grenade launchers allow indirect fire? Or maybe he could have just thrown a rock). I hate that they thought it was necessary to have Inaho do this. Inaho and his eye should not be able to calculate trajectories better than a gigantic warship, and that's all he was doing. Marito had already done the critical thinking and called in the support. It screams "We don't want anyone to be competent except Slaine and Inaho". Just my 2 cents. |
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Savethebestforu said: KamiAlice said: I'll agree that I want more from the earth characters, but i'll repeat we are only 4 episodes into the new season. You can't say there is no individuality with the other characters when you have Rayet, Yuki, and Marito who have already showed a lot more than even Inaho. I'll agree I was hoping to see more out of Inko and Calm but who knows with those 2. I guarantee you we'll get more for the 3 previously mentioned as the story goes along. In fact, this episode was all Marito. We've already seen huge progression on his part, given that last season he couldn't even leave the hanger. Although the fight was satisfying, I was still hoping that, for once, Earth will achieve victory without Mr The-Only-Capable-Pilot-On-Earth...I guess this is what I'm saying. They didn't even need Inaho in that battle. Lieutenant Marito worked out that he could use satellites to look at its gravity field from above, so he could also have worked out that it only acts horizontally on his own too. Then he just needed to come up with a way to hit it from above (do those grenade launchers allow indirect fire? Or maybe he could have just thrown a rock). I hate that they thought it was necessary to have Inaho do this. Inaho and his eye should not be able to calculate trajectories better than a gigantic warship, and that's all he was doing. Marito had already done the critical thinking and called in the support. It screams "We don't want anyone to be competent except Slaine and Inaho". Just my 2 cents. Except as I said before in this thread - IT WAS MARITO'S PLAN AND IT WAS HIM saving the day. Inaho was just a part of the plan because he was in earth's atmosphere, but it could have been a random orbital satelite as well. The plan, its execution and etc was all Marito's. |
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Savethebestforu said: KamiAlice said: I'll agree that I want more from the earth characters, but i'll repeat we are only 4 episodes into the new season. You can't say there is no individuality with the other characters when you have Rayet, Yuki, and Marito who have already showed a lot more than even Inaho. I'll agree I was hoping to see more out of Inko and Calm but who knows with those 2. I guarantee you we'll get more for the 3 previously mentioned as the story goes along. In fact, this episode was all Marito. We've already seen huge progression on his part, given that last season he couldn't even leave the hanger. Although the fight was satisfying, I was still hoping that, for once, Earth will achieve victory without Mr The-Only-Capable-Pilot-On-Earth...I guess this is what I'm saying. They didn't even need Inaho in that battle. Lieutenant Marito worked out that he could use satellites to look at its gravity field from above, so he could also have worked out that it only acts horizontally on his own too. Then he just needed to come up with a way to hit it from above (do those grenade launchers allow indirect fire? Or maybe he could have just thrown a rock). I hate that they thought it was necessary to have Inaho do this. Inaho and his eye should not be able to calculate trajectories better than a gigantic warship, and that's all he was doing. Marito had already done the critical thinking and called in the support. It screams "We don't want anyone to be competent except Slaine and Inaho". Just my 2 cents. I see where you're coming from but I also see it differently. To me it was all Marito. Inaho was just variable X in Marito's equation. It could have been anyone up there, he just needed a shooter. If anything Inaho was only used because of his eye, since whether it is believable that someone can shoot perfectly from up there without the eye would depend on the viewers. Although they could have used someone else to shoot, and a team up top taking care of the aiming I guess. |
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CookingPriest said: Savethebestforu said: Although the fight was satisfying, I was still hoping that, for once, Earth will achieve victory without Mr The-Only-Capable-Pilot-On-Earth...I guess this is what I'm saying. They didn't even need Inaho in that battle. Lieutenant Marito worked out that he could use satellites to look at its gravity field from above, so he could also have worked out that it only acts horizontally on his own too. Then he just needed to come up with a way to hit it from above (do those grenade launchers allow indirect fire? Or maybe he could have just thrown a rock). I hate that they thought it was necessary to have Inaho do this. Inaho and his eye should not be able to calculate trajectories better than a gigantic warship, and that's all he was doing. Marito had already done the critical thinking and called in the support. It screams "We don't want anyone to be competent except Slaine and Inaho". Just my 2 cents. Except as I said before in this thread - IT WAS MARITO'S PLAN AND IT WAS HIM saving the day. Inaho was just a part of the plan because he was in earth's atmosphere, but it could have been a random orbital satelite as well. The plan, its execution and etc was all Marito's. Well not the execution That was his team + Inaho. |
seujair31 said: Savethebestforu said: But none of that is affecting their character. It's not quality development. They are supposed to be in a war, right? This is the perfect time for characters to rise and fall in the wake of battle and earn their fans or their haters...but that's the thing. None of the characters on Earth except for Inaho have really...done anything. Rayet had some potential before she joined Inaho, but she lost everything now that all she does is hold Inaho's jock. There is no individuality in any of the characters anymore other than Inaho. Calm, Yuki, Rayet, Inko, Blonde haired ponytail (name?); they are all bystanders to Inaho's greatness on and off the battlefield. His is wiser than all of them, more powerful than all of them, and smarter than all all of them. None of the characters have any strengths that Inaho doesn't already possess to a higher degree. Unless you are LeLouch, it's basically impossible to carry a show single handledly like this. I guess I just want/wanted more from Earth and what are the qualities of the Martians, super powers, Nazi ideals, racism, pride, robots with powers over natural, you criticize the characters of land, more Martians are also sucks, and Slaine, if not his super robots they would have died a long time. The side of the Martians is not overshadowed by the powers of Tharsis, which has the foresees the future device, and a super speed, Thasis overshadows all other Martians wicks, Ta clear so you know to attack the Terrans, because your character is on the side of the Martians are all stupid, because you did not mention that Tharsis overshadows all other strands Martians, because so he has that super speed, and can predict the future, and that the servant who plays the role of L-elf to Slaine. Tharsis overshadows the Martians. For the first time a mecha, plays the role of a character Sorry bro, I don't even know what you are saying half the time. So a full-on discussion with you would be pointless. But I'll give you a response to the whole Nazi Martian pride rambling you did. "So when is Inaho going to come and save the day" was my reaction throughout the entire fight. They should just stop showing Kataphrakt on Earth battles at this point. They're way too formulaic now. It sucks that after last week's ending, they leave us with this. The show could go more interesting directions, but they focus on this shit again. Put more focus on the Vers Empire. They are much more interesting than Earth at this point. And no, I'm not even talking about Slaine in particular. I just like the politics involved in this Nazi-like regime and seeing the warped personalities on Mars is interesting to me. I should think that you, the biggest mecha fan on the planet, would appreciate this since the greatest Space Sci-Fi anime that all mechas try to recreate was all about politics (Legend of the Galactic Heroes) |
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