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Dec 22, 2014 5:55 AM

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Okaishi said:
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Please don't joke.

- Berserker fight expansion so she does not get beaten to a pulp
- ANime original seiba scenes
- OP full of seiba
- Trailers full of seiba
- Seiba at the center of BD cover
- Kuizuki trashdown not being violent enough for Seiba(she is still bloody in the VN)
- Seiba surviving full tsubame gaeshi instead of two-slash version.


Yeah, those things you listed sure elaborate her character and backstory.. I'm not surprised you're missing the point.


No one said pandering expands upon the character.
Dec 22, 2014 6:08 AM

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CookingPriest said:
No one said pandering expands upon the character.


I suppose you're right. I was kind of referring to OkarinPriest's post as well where he said Saber was getting too much attention. But maybe she's getting the wrong kind of attention (or treatment) instead, and I don't think she necessarily gets too much screentime considering we'll have to do without Fate and HF is laughable for any development of her character.
Dec 22, 2014 6:15 AM

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Okaishi said:
CookingPriest said:
No one said pandering expands upon the character.


I suppose you're right. I was kind of referring to OkarinPriest's post as well where he said Saber was getting too much attention. But maybe she's getting the wrong kind of attention (or treatment) instead, and I don't think she necessarily gets too much screentime considering we'll have to do without Fate and HF is laughable for any development of her character.

I thought that the development was, well... there, slightly. In UBW you can see how heavily she's able to resist such betrayal and it goes to showcase just how strong the shadow is at corrupting, and she still manages to seemingly say things that make it seem like she's not under complete control... And the final scene is pretty nice as well. I'd certainly say that she plays a larger role in H/F than in UBW, but I realize that that's not saying much.

One thing that happens in H/F is that the holy grail's contents and what Kiritsugu did and why get explained and I feel like that's pretty important for her character development... even if she herself is not around. Perhaps character development is not the correct word.
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Dec 22, 2014 6:17 AM

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Bah, true best girl laughs at your petty squabbles.








Best Girl 1 - My Heart 0
Dec 22, 2014 6:19 AM

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Bonus: AyakoXRider
Still a better love story than Twilight

Dec 22, 2014 6:21 AM

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"That's rape!"

"No! She came, so it was making love."
Dec 22, 2014 6:23 AM

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Sigmund said:
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"That's rape!"

"No! She came, so it was making love."


“One day, in retrospect, the years of struggle will strike you as the most beautiful.”


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Dec 22, 2014 6:27 AM

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Wow. For the first time in weeks, difference between Rin and Saber is 59.
Dec 22, 2014 6:31 AM

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ijuka said:
I'd certainly say that she plays a larger role in H/F than in UBW, but I realize that that's not saying much.


Well, that kind of depends. I'm not even sure I consider Saber and Saber Alter the same character, so for me Saber might stop playing any role after day 8. Though yeah, it's not saying much either way, which is why I would have liked some more Fate elements in this adaptation. I do like the route, disregarding the forced romance with Shirou.
Dec 22, 2014 6:31 AM

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ijuka said:
Okaishi said:


I suppose you're right. I was kind of referring to OkarinPriest's post as well where he said Saber was getting too much attention. But maybe she's getting the wrong kind of attention (or treatment) instead, and I don't think she necessarily gets too much screentime considering we'll have to do without Fate and HF is laughable for any development of her character.

I thought that the development was, well... there, slightly. In UBW you can see how heavily she's able to resist such betrayal and it goes to showcase just how strong the shadow is at corrupting, and she still manages to seemingly say things that make it seem like she's not under complete control... And the final scene is pretty nice as well. I'd certainly say that she plays a larger role in H/F than in UBW, but I realize that that's not saying much.

One thing that happens in H/F is that the holy grail's contents and what Kiritsugu did and why get explained and I feel like that's pretty important for her character development... even if she herself is not around. Perhaps character development is not the correct word.


P much this. But the Kerry thing doesn't really give her character development. She was under complete control. She gave herself to the evil because she herself decided that her fate was sealed on that hill.

In UBW, she gets some development as well. Some. She comes to realise that she shouldn't regret, after seeing Shirou's and Archer's battle. I can't say she has the same resolution in Fate as in UBW tho. In Fate, she learns to accept her rule as King(which happened in UBW aswell) and she returned back to her old self. She died as Arturia. In UBW, however, she dies as a King that accepts her past and mistakes. Imo.

Okaishi said:
ijuka said:
I'd certainly say that she plays a larger role in H/F than in UBW, but I realize that that's not saying much.


Well, that kind of depends. I'm not even sure I consider Saber and Saber Alter the same character, so for me Saber might stop playing any role after day 8. Though yeah, it's not saying much either way, which is why I would have liked some more Fate elements in this adaptation. I do like the route, disregarding the forced romance with Shirou.


They are. They're the same person, Saber Alter just doesn't give a shit anymore~
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Dec 22, 2014 6:36 AM

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mira-lala said:
They are. They're the same person, Saber Alter just doesn't give a shit anymore~


Yeah I just thought about it and I agree, the same applies to Dark Sakura after all. I guess you could say Saber's role is more significant in HF that way then.
Dec 22, 2014 6:47 AM

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She doesn't really have a role. But she gets 'character development' in a sense.
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Dec 22, 2014 6:48 AM

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mira-lala said:
She doesn't really have a role. But she gets 'character development' in a sense.

Well I feel like at least the symbolic value of the fight against her is pretty significant... And hmm, shock value of losing her so early in general, I guess.

Her most important achievement though is enabling Femme Fatale, the best ending in FSN.
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Dec 22, 2014 6:51 AM

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Symbolic value...?
Shirou gets attached to people pretty quickly tho, he made ma cry that scene.
Shock value is lost later on tho. And comes back again.
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Dec 22, 2014 7:49 AM

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Moving my screw up from the best man thread:
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An anime group on fb posted these:


^ The battle continues.

Dec 22, 2014 8:04 AM

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Best girl spam

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[spoiler]

Last one, promise

lol

That is all, for now....
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Dec 22, 2014 8:50 AM

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Plebs the lot of you

Bow








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Best girl has best sisters
Dec 22, 2014 8:54 AM

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WrongPriest said:

Best girl has best sisters


Best one.
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Dec 22, 2014 8:57 AM

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Eat your heart out, Wrong (unless you already have this one)

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Dec 22, 2014 9:07 AM

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mickdrew_99 said:
Eat your heart out, Wrong (unless you already have this one)


Ofcourse it's been posted here, it's a classic!
I remember we had a fun discussion here when it was posted.

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Accurate depiction of my struggle with Lala.




Dec 22, 2014 9:12 AM

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XDD Ahaha, we need moah of this XD
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Dec 22, 2014 9:39 AM

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lol, I bet your trash tier waifu's can't even ride chainsaws. Good luck getting that egg off your face.



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Dec 22, 2014 9:46 AM

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XDD Dat dis tho.
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Dec 22, 2014 9:58 AM

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"Cow udder duo"
Topkek 11/10
Dec 22, 2014 10:50 AM

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The Best Girl War seems so lighthearted and innocent compared to how nasty other threads get.

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Dec 22, 2014 10:51 AM

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Oh God Why?
Dec 22, 2014 10:57 AM
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mickdrew_99 said:



This one is really good. Lel she did looked good in that outfit. She wore a chain around the right wrist. Really liked that little detail

--> http://i.imgur.com/rTxKJjN.jpg?1
Dec 22, 2014 11:40 AM
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FFS. Why is Saber in first place???!!!!
Dec 22, 2014 11:43 AM

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ASUPAHrandomname said:
FFS. Why is Saber in first place???!!!!
Because reasons.
Dec 22, 2014 11:46 AM
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What reasons are there to put such a terrible character in first place??!
Dec 22, 2014 11:47 AM

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>Saber
>Terrible
Nah.

Also, is this about to launch off another best girl war?
Dec 22, 2014 11:49 AM
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ASUPAHrandomname said:
FFS. Why is Saber in first place???!!!!


Another alt. Rigging against saber(still winning), ho boy.
Happy trolling.
Dec 22, 2014 11:49 AM

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ASUPAHrandomname said:
What reasons are there to put such a terrible character in first place??!
Except she's not terrible.

God, I can't believe I'm defending Saber <.<
Dec 22, 2014 11:49 AM

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Lol, I'm not even gonna touch this ~.~

This is how awesomely I dodged that.


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Dec 22, 2014 11:49 AM

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ASUPAHrandomname said:
What reasons are there to put such a terrible character in first place??!
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Dec 22, 2014 11:52 AM

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Saber can't be worst character.




Because she's so bad she isn't even a character,
Dec 22, 2014 11:54 AM
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StrayBotato said:
ASUPAHrandomname said:
What reasons are there to put such a terrible character in first place??!
Except she's not terrible.

God, I can't believe I'm defending Saber <.<


Ok, in what way is she not terrible? She fucks a boy 9 years younger than her, killed and rejected her own daughter. Had sex with her sister.
Dec 22, 2014 11:56 AM

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ASUPAHrandomname said:
StrayBotato said:
Except she's not terrible.

God, I can't believe I'm defending Saber <.<


Ok, in what way is she not terrible? She fucks a boy 9 years younger than her, killed and rejected her own daughter. Had sex with her sister.
That's a rather shallow view not to mention ignoring pretty much everything about her character.

And she didn't have sex with her sister.. Pretty sure we just had this conversation in another thread.
Dec 22, 2014 12:00 PM
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She ignores the good she's done. If she sees that she's that known in the Grail Wars, why didn't she change her mind. She's stubborn, and honestly doesn't listen to reason.

She ignores all the fucked up things going on in her life, and instead pays attention to something that can't be changed for the better.

And she only starts changing for the better after she gets the d.
Dec 22, 2014 12:02 PM

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StrayBotato said:
ASUPAHrandomname said:


Ok, in what way is she not terrible? She fucks a boy 9 years younger than her, killed and rejected her own daughter. Had sex with her sister.
That's a rather shallow view not to mention ignoring pretty much everything about her character.

And she didn't have sex with her sister.. Pretty sure we just had this conversation in another thread.


She was clearly raped.
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Dec 22, 2014 12:04 PM

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ASUPAHrandomname said:
She ignores the good she's done. If she sees that she's that known in the Grail Wars, why didn't she change her mind. She's stubborn, and honestly doesn't listen to reason.

She ignores all the fucked up things going on in her life, and instead pays attention to something that can't be changed for the better.

And she only starts changing for the better after she gets the d.


Fai? Is that you trolling us in there?

Kaixe-Rho? You trying to see how good you can imitate middle-schoolers?

Insertanamehere? Trying to score at bingo again?
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mickdrew_99 said:
ASUPAHrandomname said:
She ignores the good she's done. If she sees that she's that known in the Grail Wars, why didn't she change her mind. She's stubborn, and honestly doesn't listen to reason.

She ignores all the fucked up things going on in her life, and instead pays attention to something that can't be changed for the better.

And she only starts changing for the better after she gets the d.


Fai? Is that you trolling us in there?

Kaixe-Rho? You trying to see how good you can imitate middle-schoolers?

Insertanamehere? Trying to score at bingo again?


Lol, there's a reason why I'm eating muh popcorn. Come, join me!
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Dec 22, 2014 12:09 PM

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If we're both eating popcorn, who's gonna defend saber?
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Dec 22, 2014 12:11 PM

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mickdrew_99 said:
If we're both eating popcorn, who's gonna defend saber?


Botato! He shall realise his love for her.
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Dec 22, 2014 12:12 PM

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mira-lala said:
mickdrew_99 said:
If we're both eating popcorn, who's gonna defend saber?


Botato! He shall realise his love for her.
Great. I misread it as "release" instead of "realise" at first.
Dec 22, 2014 12:13 PM
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God, this is why I hate Saber and her fanbase. They're so fucking aggresive, and attack everyone with a diifferent opinion.

No, I am not trolling.
Dec 22, 2014 12:14 PM

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CapsuleCore said:
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Botato! He shall realise his love for her.
Great. I misread it as "release" instead of "realise" at first.

aHAHAHAHAH xD
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Dec 22, 2014 12:14 PM

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ASUPAHrandomname said:
God, this is why I hate Saber and her fanbase. They're so fucking aggresive, and attack everyone with a diifferent opinion.

No, I am not trolling.

Yes, because you were attacked just now, right?
And for the record, the only two who are firmly in the Saber fanbase here are Mike and Mira. Uh, I mean, Mick and Lala.
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ASUPAHrandomname said:
God, this is why I hate Saber and her fanbase. They're so fucking aggresive, and attack everyone with a diifferent opinion.

No, I am not trolling.
Honestly, you see that with Rin and Sakura fans, too. Dare to criticize any waifu, be it from Touhou, Kantai Collection, idolmaster or any other series, you will get some aggressive backlash.
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Why do I even bother coming back to these threads -_-
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