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Jul 20, 2009 1:52 PM

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No, not always. I enjoy stuff like G Gundam or DBZ more in English
Jul 20, 2009 3:22 PM

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Personally I prefer dubs, because I like understanding what they are saying, but most dubs are too bad for me to even think about watching, i.e Lucky Star, Haruhi and... most of all NGE. I always watch Bleach in subs, cause well i Have no other options unless I want to be 9000 episodes behind. DBZ probably has a better dub, the uncut version of course, because since technology has improved the recordings have a higher quality and the music seems more epic, though some lines sound uber-cheesy in the beginning of the series. Also, Black Lagoon is a MUCH better experience in dub, it just feels more right, a lot more of the scenes feel more natural.

I like the subs for Gurren Lagann, but does anybody else find that when Yoko's big, huge bouncing boobies are on the screen, they get distracted and forget to read the subs?

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Jul 20, 2009 7:08 PM

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yes yes yes!!!
Jul 20, 2009 7:35 PM

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Imo, the original version of a movie/TV show/anime/whatever is always better, no matter the language.
Jul 20, 2009 7:36 PM
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yes i agree i like the japanese version of anime better,
because it sounds ridiculus when it's english dubbed
Jul 20, 2009 7:37 PM

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Alindul said:
... pretty much. Dubs can be decent or good even, but they are usually never better than the original version, though there may be a few exceptions out there I have encountered none thus far (partially because I don't watch dubs often).

Pretty much this.
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Jul 20, 2009 10:04 PM

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Japanese is better unless the anime is based on a cast of non-Japanese characters and a setting that is not Japan.

Example: Cooking Master Boy. The whole anime is set in China, with an all Chinese cast of characters, and a story revolving around Chinese cuisine. I saw the whole thing in Cantonese dub and feel that it would have been weird otherwise.
Jul 20, 2009 10:34 PM

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to me Neon Genesis Evangelion was better in English

Jul 20, 2009 11:08 PM

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i almost have to watch anime in japanese but there are a couple i have watched in english



Jul 20, 2009 11:20 PM

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The girl's voices are 10 times more cute in japanese
Jul 21, 2009 12:16 AM

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Primus said:
The girl's voices are 10 times more cute in japanese

lolololololololollolol

I agree jap>eng. sometimes

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Jul 21, 2009 1:37 AM

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I always watch anime in Japanese. Any other language would sound odd and ruin my mood to watch.
Jul 21, 2009 4:59 AM

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Watched 98% of them in subs. English dubs only when I don't care much for the series (so I can finish the damn things) or I can't find them in subs (major head and earache on those Sailormoon drubs s***t, s***t f***kng s***t).

I do admit though that I've seen a number of good dubs - it's just not that many and can never compare to the original.
Jul 21, 2009 10:04 AM

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I always try to watch anything foreign in the original language with subtitles, not just anime.
Jul 21, 2009 5:04 PM

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cantius said:
CinatoastB3 said:
I like japanese they sound better most of the english actors sound stupid


your so cool omg


lol that's what I'm thinking when I read most of this. It's like people think they're following some unwritten code and delivering the "right" answer. Japanese is not always better; there are quite a few shows where the English cast is just much more distinctive and lively than the Japanese. Nor is English always better; there are a good number of shows where dub translations are rubbish and/or the voice actors suck.

To be completely one way or the other indicates more that the responder hasn't thought it through.
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Jul 21, 2009 5:09 PM

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I have to agree that Japanese sounds alot better.
Most anime in english dub ruins it.

I always watch my anime in English Sub XD
Jul 21, 2009 5:32 PM

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Japanes sounds better, obviously. Not only is Japanese more fitting for anime, but they put more heart into it. Most english voice actors sound soulless to me, tbh...as if they don't really care and just want to get paid.
Jul 21, 2009 6:00 PM
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Killuan said:
Japanes sounds better, obviously. Not only is Japanese more fitting for anime, but they put more heart into it. Most english voice actors sound soulless to me, tbh...as if they don't really care and just want to get paid.


You don't know that many voice actors then. Most of them do it because they actually like doing it and if they where doing it to just get paid, I promise you they would be lending their voices to something other than anime. Especially since the dubbing industry isn't something that's easy to get into in the first place.

English voice actors put as much effort into it as the Japanese voice actors even if the end result isn't always good.
Jul 21, 2009 6:38 PM

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Capellabun said:
Killuan said:
Japanes sounds better, obviously. Not only is Japanese more fitting for anime, but they put more heart into it. Most english voice actors sound soulless to me, tbh...as if they don't really care and just want to get paid.

You don't know that many voice actors then. Most of them do it because they actually like doing it and if they where doing it to just get paid, I promise you they would be lending their voices to something other than anime. Especially since the dubbing industry isn't something that's easy to get into in the first place.

English voice actors put as much effort into it as the Japanese voice actors even if the end result isn't always good.

This. (Heck, if they just wanted to get paid, they wouldn't be acting, period.)

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Jul 22, 2009 2:18 PM

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Yep. I really cant stand watching anime in any other language than japanese. Subs are the best, I dont care- in my language or english ( though I prefer english,heh). Maybe thats just a habit, but for me seiyuu's voices the best fit to animes.

And in my native language anime dubbing SUCKS. Dont EVER try to watch animes in Polish- thats just my good advice :P

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Jul 22, 2009 2:37 PM

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I find animes to be generally better in Japanese (due to the fact that it's like one the prettiest languages there is! :D) although I actually liked Full Metal Alchemist better as English dubbed.

All about personal taste I guess, try watching an dubbed and undubbed episode and see what you like!
Jul 22, 2009 8:36 PM
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I wouldn't say that Japanese is ALWAYS better.
There are times when the dub is actually pretty good.
It all depends on the voice actors and the quality.
Like, sometimes, Japanese voice actors might not be that good either.
Jul 22, 2009 8:58 PM

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Watching anime in japanese is the best. I can't handle watching it in english, for me it seems too fake instead being original.
Jul 22, 2009 9:22 PM

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I watched Princess Mononoke dubbed and was very impressed with the english voice acting (although I think the voice actors/actresses in it were Hollywood quality)
Jul 22, 2009 11:01 PM

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LatrellMoonwell said:
I watched Princess Mononoke dubbed and was very impressed with the english voice acting (although I think the voice actors/actresses in it were Hollywood quality)


Many Studio Ghibli films have crazy amazing voice actors for the English dubs. The Cat Returns, for instance, stars Anne Hathaway. Anne freaking Hathaway...in a story about a cat world.
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Jul 23, 2009 5:51 PM

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Dubs are always inferior. I am so glad I live in Finland. Everything shown in television is shown in its original language, and only subbed. Even movies in the theaters are shown in their original audio, subbed.
Jul 23, 2009 5:58 PM

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All three of the movies the OP mentioned have excellent dubs. Unless you're fluent in Japanese, you're doing yourself a disservice by not watching them in English.

As for English dubs v. Japanese dubs...is it 1996 all over again? Typically, I'll watch whatever sounds better/entertaining, or whichever has a voice actor I like. I'm watching Overman King Gainer in English right now because despite Gainer's whiny voice being a bit grating, (his Japanese VA isn't much better, but I guess that's because of the role he's in) Wendee Lee plays Adette Kistler...and it's funny to hear Faye coaxing underage boys into wearing latex bondage outfits.

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Jul 23, 2009 6:42 PM

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brand_182 said:
LatrellMoonwell said:
I watched Princess Mononoke dubbed and was very impressed with the english voice acting (although I think the voice actors/actresses in it were Hollywood quality)


Many Studio Ghibli films have crazy amazing voice actors for the English dubs. The Cat Returns, for instance, stars Anne Hathaway. Anne freaking Hathaway...in a story about a cat world.


Yeah, even Dakota Fanning in My Neighbor Totoro. I still searched and found it in Japanese though.




I started out as, love dub hate sub, but Naruto was my first anime when I really got into anime. Most of it was in English, then suddenly I couldn't find any dub so I was forced to watch sub. After that I have always loved subtitles. It's helping me learn a little bit of Japanese.
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Jul 23, 2009 9:38 PM

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No not all the time I cant imagine watching black lagoon in japanese.
Jul 24, 2009 1:42 PM
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would never watch anything dubbed, and main reason i watch anime is because its in japanese
Jul 26, 2009 10:24 PM

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Jul 26, 2009 10:56 PM

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If you guys really want it in "the original language and without the english langauge raping your Japaneseness" go raw. Don't complain that it takes out the feel if you read the english subs but complain about the english dub.
Jul 27, 2009 4:18 AM

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Camio said:
I find animes to be generally better in Japanese (due to the fact that it's like one the prettiest languages there is! :D)

What is this I don't even

I agree that as a generality, the original Japanese language will usually be better than foreign dubbing (let's use English as an example) for a few reasons:
1. Voice acting in Japan is a much more serious and competitive industry than those of North America, covering games to radio shows to anime to foreign film dubbing. It would be like comparing the American film industry to the Japanese film industry (in reverse).
2. Mouthflaps - In many anime productions (well, nowadays), mouths and facial expressions are animated afterwards to match to the lines of the seiyuu. Dub scriptwriters and voice actors instead must match their lines to pre-animated mouth movements, which is a difficult restriction.
3. Dubbing and voice acting differ greatly. While Japanese seiyuu record the dialogue for an episode as a group, English dubbers record alone, focusing on tone and matching mouth movements. Without the group mentality, much may be lost in the way of union and flow, sacrificing efficiency in one area for efficiency in another.
4. Japanese characters speaking Japanese seems much more natural than Japanese characters speaking any other language. As far as mannerisms and etiquette go, the Japanese people (as much as they might wish they were Westerners =3=) differ from English-speakers greatly. Voice acting chooses not to follow these but present them in such a fashion that most English-speakers would understand (which is really the goal, when you think about it.)

As a rule, Ghibli films' English dubs are always better because of, well, Disney. Not to mention Ghibli's generally apathetic attitude as far as seiyuu go; though they have the highest budgets in Japanese animation (and the aesthetics show), they don't seem to care who they hire to voice their creations.

I suppose another factor to mention would be the style of an anime. Most anime is strictly Japanese. Japanese slice of life rarely works outside of a Japanese setting and context, just like an American satire would be difficult to grasp for Japanese inhabitants. However, if the style is not strictly Japanese, there is no real reason that the anime would be strictly better in Japanese, and this is where the seiyuu industry meets the North American voice acting industry. While the level of adequacy for a Japanese seiyuu overshadows that of foreign dubbers, talent and situation can make a difference. Take, for example, Cowboy Bebop or Samurai Champloo's dubs. Neither is very Japanese in style (don't let Champloo's setting fool you, hip-hop and badassed apathy are not native to Japan), and both feature casts of well-known, well-regarded voice actors: Steven Blum, Wendee Lee, Kirk Thornton, Kari Wahlgren, etc. When style is not an issue and talent is present, there's no reason why dubs can't be strictly superior.

tl;dr go watch the Champloo dub fagets.
Jul 27, 2009 5:50 AM

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If you guys really want it in "the original language and without the english langauge raping your Japaneseness" go raw. Don't complain that it takes out the feel if you read the english subs but complain about the english dub.


How does that even make sense?

Watching a show subbed still means you have the original audio (in this case Japanese). For those who don't like dubs, this is a win-win situation: they hear the Japanese voices AND they can tell what they're actually saying without having (crappy) dub actors ruin their fun.
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Jul 27, 2009 6:16 AM

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Um not all the time, I think Cowboy bebop and Outlaw Star are alot better in English, I think their English voices fit a lot better. Plus Spikes voice in English is just damn sexy. Pretty much the entire English voice cast for cowboy bebop is amazing.
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Jul 27, 2009 10:11 PM

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Jigero said:
Um not all the time, I think Cowboy bebop and Outlaw Star are alot better in English, I think their English voices fit a lot better. Plus Spikes voice in English is just damn sexy. Pretty much the entire English voice cast for cowboy bebop is amazing.


I have exactly 0 complaints about the Bebop dub. I was entirely satisfied with every voice actor in that series. Also, Death Note and FMA have pretty great dubs.

EDIT: Also, Mushi-Shi.
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Jul 27, 2009 11:14 PM
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Im personally a fan of watching subbed anime. Just a personal preference. I have seen some really decent dubbed anime though.
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Jul 28, 2009 5:20 PM

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In my opinion, the only good anime in english dub is Cardcaptor Sakura.
Jul 28, 2009 7:21 PM
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SlowDecay said:
In my opinion, the only good anime in english dub is Cardcaptor Sakura.

I kind of hope your kidding, because Cardcaptor Sakura is probably one of the worst examples of a dub especially when you consider all the editing, name changes, removal of the original soundtrack, etc. Series dubs like the Cowboy Bebops dub, FMA Dub, and Ghibli dubs far surpass it in quality and are good examples of how a dub should be.

Not trying to bash your opinion but the Cardcaptor dub really wasn't that good.
Jul 28, 2009 8:50 PM

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I liked watching them in Japanese, but the animes i've previously watched dubbed (Sailor Moon, Inu Yasha, Yu Gi Oh, Yu Yu Hakusho and etc) are just impossible for me to watch in japanese right now...
Jul 30, 2009 11:35 AM

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the original is always better... (hmm except for Hellsing's english dub, that's perfect. D:)
Jul 30, 2009 11:54 AM

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Of the series I've seen...

Sub is better:
Blood+
Death Note
Elfen Lied

Dub is better:
Code Geass (and R2)
Cowboy Bebop
Fullmetal Alchemist
Inuyasha
Neon Genesis Evangelion
Samurai Champloo
Tales of Phantasia
Wolf's Rain

No difference:
Magical Shopping Arcade Abenobashi

So far, dub has been better.

I tend to watch series dubbed if they have really reputable English voice actors. And since a lot of series aren't dubbed, I can get my fill of Japanese (since I'm a Japanese language student) then.
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Jul 30, 2009 12:29 PM

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Most of the time, but I far prefer English for:

Yu Yu Hakusho
Fullmetal Alchemist
Cowboy Bebop
Neon Genesis Evangelion
Trigun
Big O
X/1999
S-Cry-Ed
Samurai Champloo
Rurouni Kenshin
and Inuyasha
Jul 30, 2009 12:41 PM

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I like to watch dubbed anime whenever possible for some reason. But, most of the time I watch with the Subtitles. Although, I think the english voices are just as good.
Tried watching Fruits Basket in japanese and Tohru's voice annoyed me too much. Way better with the dub.
Jul 30, 2009 1:28 PM

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I like to watch dubbed anime whenever possible for some reason


It's nice to have a DVD playing on TV -- without worrying about paying attention to any text. That frees me up to do... oh... something else.
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Jul 30, 2009 2:04 PM

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It all depends on your taste. I admit being a lazy bastard who prefers dubbing as I like to relax and just get into the show without having to deal with subtitles, but if a show I like is only subbed, hey, I'll adapt and enjoy that as well. However, to say subbing is better than dubbing, or vice-versa is a tired, old, and, in my opinion, annoying argument of rampant arrogance, on both sides. Reminds me too much of Democrats saying they're better than Republicans, or conservatives saying they're better than liberals, again, so much nonsensical noise and bickering. Subbing and dubbing each has it's own appeal to fans, one doesn't HAVE to be better or worse than the other, so just kick back and enjoy what you like.
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PhillyFlash said:
It all depends on your taste. I admit being a lazy bastard who prefers dubbing as I like to relax and just get into the show without having to deal with subtitles, but if a show I like is only subbed, hey, I'll adapt and enjoy that as well. However, to say subbing is better than dubbing, or vice-versa is a tired, old, and, in my opinion, annoying argument of rampant arrogance, on both sides. Reminds me too much of Democrats saying they're better than Republicans, or conservatives saying they're better than liberals, again, so much nonsensical noise and bickering. Subbing and dubbing each has it's own appeal to fans, one doesn't HAVE to be better or worse than the other, so just kick back and enjoy what you like.


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PhillyFlash said:
However, to say subbing is better than dubbing, or vice-versa is a tired, old, and, in my opinion, annoying argument of rampant arrogance, on both sides.


Even sadder -- the argument has been around for a good 15-20 years. My goodness... even before the births of most of the people around here...
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PhillyFlash said:
It all depends on your taste. I admit being a lazy bastard who prefers dubbing as I like to relax and just get into the show without having to deal with subtitles, but if a show I like is only subbed, hey, I'll adapt and enjoy that as well. However, to say subbing is better than dubbing, or vice-versa is a tired, old, and, in my opinion, annoying argument of rampant arrogance, on both sides. Reminds me too much of Democrats saying they're better than Republicans, or conservatives saying they're better than liberals, again, so much nonsensical noise and bickering. Subbing and dubbing each has it's own appeal to fans, one doesn't HAVE to be better or worse than the other, so just kick back and enjoy what you like.

Someone who speaks sense in this place? Can it be true? So here is a big THANK YOU from me. You said everything I would have said. =)

Of course, I would also like to add that automatically screaming "OMG SUBS ARE DA BEST ALL DUBS SUX" does NOT win you any "fan" cred. Never has, never will. =/
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Jigero said:
Um not all the time, I think Cowboy bebop and Outlaw Star are alot better in English, I think their English voices fit a lot better. Plus Spikes voice in English is just damn sexy. Pretty much the entire English voice cast for cowboy bebop is amazing.


I have exactly 0 complaints about the Bebop dub. I was entirely satisfied with every voice actor in that series. Also, Death Note and FMA have pretty great dubs.

EDIT: Also, Mushi-Shi.


yea i agree, bebop and fma are dubs i actually liked. i just tend to watch subs over dubs since i see it first subbed and can't adjust to the difference in voices
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