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Jun 5, 2009 2:30 PM

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Heh, bazooka Soi Fon.
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Not what I was expecting as Soi Fon's bankai (in fact maybe even the direct opposite..).
Most pages were went to waste in the beginning though. A mediocre chapter for me O_o.
Jun 5, 2009 3:52 PM

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I wasn't expecting Soifon's bankai to be like that^^
Jun 5, 2009 4:18 PM

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Hool said:
Trash, beginning to think if Kishimoto and Kubo leaving smoking together >.<


Don't compare Kishimoto to this piece of shit arc. Naruto is way more exciting at the moment.
Jun 5, 2009 5:01 PM

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lmao well at least we got to see her bankai, although it doesn't really reflect her fighting style at all =/
Jun 5, 2009 7:09 PM

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I like her bankai. It explain why she hasn't used it before now. I loved the panel with the blast shield over her face.
I may just suffer from extreme character bias when it comes to anything involving Soi Fon.

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Jun 5, 2009 7:11 PM
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ooh she did her first attack with her bankai. whoop-dee-doo.
Jun 5, 2009 7:26 PM

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Ukitake = pedo.
It was cool when Soi Fon came out with her bankai, but when I see the surfboard, "huuuuuuuuuuhhhhh."

Jun 5, 2009 7:32 PM

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mulderman said:
HOW THE FUCK DOES THAT SUIT A STEALTH OPS CAPTAIN!?!
And is her bankai ANYTHING like her shikai? Isn't that kinda the point of a bankai?
Can you even call this a chapter? It's not as if he's dead now we all know how these fights work out. Goddamn Kubo Come on now! Put some freaking effort into it.

edit: It would be much better if she had some kind of Sniper Rifle weapon. A 1 hit kill except its really hard to use in a direct battle like this, so that's why she needed fatty to keep him occupied. You know, something that would FIT a stealth squad captain. See it's not THAT hard to come up with something other then LOL BAZOOKA!


Personally, I wasn't upset by the fact that it wasn't fitting for a stealth ops captain. What annoys me is how unimaginative it is.
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Jun 5, 2009 7:49 PM

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...A bazooka. It's like Tite lost the ability to come up with god ideas after barragan's release.

Seriously, he just ruined Soifon. She's such an AWESOME character and yet all he can think of is an over sized cannon?! That beam better have some "interesting" power to it. If its just a huge beam of power, I will scream.

Since when do hornets fire lasers?
Bleed for me.

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I never have the need to post a comment to express my opinion about the chapters. However, I must say this was a travesty. That was by far the worst bankai ever summoned. She's one of my favorite characters because of her uniqueness in not having a sword and having to fight the way she does (like ninja or whatever..an assassin) and yet..she dons a retarded armored bazooka as a bankai. A crushing disappointment.
Jun 5, 2009 8:47 PM
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Another week, another no advancement in plot for Bleach. I've gotten pretty used to this now.

Soi Fon's bankai was ok but not all that and there's really nothing else to talk about in this chapter
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adamantine said:
I like her bankai. It explain why she hasn't used it before now.


There was no need for an explaination as to why she hadn't used it until now. She hasn't used it until now because she's only been in two fights.

In the first, it would've been shameful for her to have to use bankai against an opponent that didn't even have her zanpakuto, even if it was Yoruichi. And in the second, bankai would've been an unnecessary waste of energy.
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Jun 5, 2009 8:58 PM

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LOL
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First of all, why the heck did Kubo re-use 2 panels from the 1st page to the 2nd page? Like, what's the point!? XDD short on time? I dont get it. Anyway, her bankai looks awesome but I'm waiting to see more of its abilities. :)


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...A bazooka. It's like Tite lost the ability to come up with god ideas after barragan's release.

Seriously, he just ruined Soifon. She's such an AWESOME character and yet all he can think of is an over sized cannon?! That beam better have some "interesting" power to it. If its just a huge beam of power, I will scream.

Since when do hornets fire lasers?

Maybe it's a poisoned laser beam.
I wouldn't put it past Kubo.
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First of all, why the heck did Kubo re-use 2 panels from the 1st page to the 2nd page? Like, what's the point!? XDD short on time? I dont get it.

It was a joke.

Anyway, her bankai looks awesome but I'm waiting to see more of its abilities. :)


She just launched it, and it made a huge explosion. I don't see what other abilities it could possibly have. If it does something other than blow stuff up, I think most of the posters here are gonna be eating their words, myself included.
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Another week, another no advancement in plot for Bleach. I've gotten pretty used to this now.

Soi Fon's bankai was ok but not all that and there's really nothing else to talk about in this chapter


everyone knows that each bleach chapter contains 1/4 of the content of a normal chapter
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She just launched it, and it made a huge explosion. I don't see what other abilities it could possibly have. If it does something other than blow stuff up, I think most of the posters here are gonna be eating their words, myself included.

For a final one-shot attack, the explosion wasn't that impressive. She might reveal a side-effect or attack some more in the next chapter before using the real finishing move. But then again, Barragan isn't gonna die either way so Kubo might as well just skip that.
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I kinda enjoyed this chapter but is it me or are some of the shinigami can't get the fact that they are fighting a battle that'll decide the fate of the "FREAKIN' WORLD".!!!

This.

I love Soi Fon and most of the others, but seriously, just swallow your effing pride and save the world. And why is Ukitake playing around while everyone's, you know, getting killed? o_o;
Jun 5, 2009 9:42 PM

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Packie said:
I kinda enjoyed this chapter but is it me or are some of the shinigami can't get the fact that they are fighting a battle that'll decide the fate of the "FREAKIN' WORLD".!!!

This.

I love Soi Fon and most of the others, but seriously, just swallow your effing pride and save the world. And why is Ukitake playing around while everyone's, you know, getting killed? o_o;


I believe I posted something like this a few chapters ago, about how Yamamoto is just standing there, while Soi Fon's lost an arm, and, at the time, Hitsugaya and Harribel were in a stalemate. Though, I didn't think of your point about Ukitake. It makes the openning scene seem much less funny, and more like Ukitake's a horrible, horrible person. Though, I personally don't like him in the first place.
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ichikiba said:
NoyaChan said:
First of all, why the heck did Kubo re-use 2 panels from the 1st page to the 2nd page? Like, what's the point!? XDD short on time? I dont get it.

It was a joke.

Kubo never used a joke like that, it's so not his style! D:


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NoyaChan said:
ichikiba said:
NoyaChan said:
First of all, why the heck did Kubo re-use 2 panels from the 1st page to the 2nd page? Like, what's the point!? XDD short on time? I dont get it.

It was a joke.

Kubo never used a joke like that, it's so not his style! D:


It's really common in manga, so he was bound to use it, eventually. Wow, I guess this entire chapter showed Kubo's capacity for being unimaginative.
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I'm just gonna blame Kubo's editor for letting him use this lame joke. D:
(I'm sorry, Ukitake, I feel bad for you ;___;)


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I'm just gonna blame Kubo's editor for letting him use this lame joke. D:
(I'm sorry, Ukitake, I feel bad for you ;___;)


That works. I blame editors for many things, myself.
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ichikiba said:
Aeterna said:
Packie said:
I kinda enjoyed this chapter but is it me or are some of the shinigami can't get the fact that they are fighting a battle that'll decide the fate of the "FREAKIN' WORLD".!!!

This.

I love Soi Fon and most of the others, but seriously, just swallow your effing pride and save the world. And why is Ukitake playing around while everyone's, you know, getting killed? o_o;


I believe I posted something like this a few chapters ago, about how Yamamoto is just standing there, while Soi Fon's lost an arm, and, at the time, Hitsugaya and Harribel were in a stalemate. Though, I didn't think of your point about Ukitake. It makes the openning scene seem much less funny, and more like Ukitake's a horrible, horrible person. Though, I personally don't like him in the first place.

I just started posting on the MAL forums so I didn't see it ^^;;

I rather liked Ukitake and I still like him, sorta, but it just seems odd that even the Vice Captains are putting their lives at risk while he's joking around with the lower-level Arrancar. At least Yamamoto was being serious about the matter, even if he took forever to get his butt into battle >.>

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where is chad I miss him *too much captain fights*

Ever since the first arc or so, Chad seems to have mysterious fallen though some warp hole along with many of the other characters from Ichigo's school life. Even Rukia seems to have taken a major backseat during this Arrancar arc after featuring so prominently during the introductory and SS arcs.

I actually think this is a major fault of Bleach's - Kubo Tite is always shoving new characters into the story before he's even properly developed his old characters, thus we never really get to see any true character development for most of them.
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So... A bazooka eh?
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As for the first part, don't worry about it, and welcome to the forums.

On your second point, I agree entirely. Chad and Orihime had no development at all when, all of the sudden, we had over 20 new characters, thanks to the SS arc.

As for the characters introduced in Hueco Mundo, I despise several of them, and not in the way I'm supposed to. I don't hate them because they're evil. I hate them because they're just repeats of the Gotei 13 captains. Grimmjow is pretty much the same as Kenpachi, Ulquiorra was much like Byakuya, Granz was the same as Mayuri (execpt their view on perfection), and so on.

Anyway, getting back to the characters than have been pushed into the background, Chad in Hueco Mundo ended up the same way as he did in Soul Society--defeating a relatively weak enemy, only to end up almost dead at the hands of a much stronger opponent. Absolutely no progress, at all. His powers changed, but it's the same story.

If I can continue to rant a little, I'd also like to mention something else with Chad...Where's his woman? Ichigo got Senna in the first movie, and Ishida had that one bount woman. These two already had potential love interests to begin with. Why can't Chad get some love?
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I think I'll take a break from reading Bleach every week every week every week. I'm going to get bored.
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Soi has Sado's arm WTF!!O_O
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ichikiba said:

As for the characters introduced in Hueco Mundo, I despise several of them, and not in the way I'm supposed to. I don't hate them because they're evil. I hate them because they're just repeats of the Gotei 13 captains. Grimmjow is pretty much the same as Kenpachi, Ulquiorra was much like Byakuya, Granz was the same as Mayuri (execpt their view on perfection), and so on.

I'd say Grimmjow was Renji. Both were hot-headed rivals Ichigo beat halfway through before moving on to their calm black haired superiors. But yeah, they're mostly rehashes. Kubo should go to TVTropes.com and pick up a few new archetypes. I wouldn't trust him with developing characters anyways, considering what happened to Orihime and Ichigo.
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ichikiba said:
As for the characters introduced in Hueco Mundo, I despise several of them, and not in the way I'm supposed to. I don't hate them because they're evil. I hate them because they're just repeats of the Gotei 13 captains. Grimmjow is pretty much the same as Kenpachi, Ulquiorra was much like Byakuya, Granz was the same as Mayuri (execpt their view on perfection), and so on.

Anyway, getting back to the characters than have been pushed into the background, Chad in Hueco Mundo ended up the same way as he did in Soul Society--defeating a relatively weak enemy, only to end up almost dead at the hands of a much stronger opponent. Absolutely no progress, at all. His powers changed, but it's the same story.


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I'd say Grimmjow was Renji. Both were hot-headed rivals Ichigo beat halfway through before moving on to their calm black haired superiors. But yeah, they're mostly rehashes. Kubo should go to TVTropes.com and pick up a few new archetypes. I wouldn't trust him with developing characters anyways, considering what happened to Orihime and Ichigo.


I can see what you're talking about, but still, I dont think were exactly rehashes but ended being more of a cannon fodder, seriously. Existed only to get pawned by SS Captains & Cia. We got to see part of Nnoitra past, but only cuz It involved Nel also. Saw Ulquiorra remembering that deep inside he was emo. There was also a bit of Grimmjow past. The Espadas which seemed to be so much important b4, are basically all dead already, and nothing really great happened.

About Chad and the others, It's happens all the time in shounens, and Kubo surely would not make any different in his lol. As the protagonist pals can't keep w/ him in terms of "power" they tend to be left out. And the one who will suffer from it the most its Chad. Rukia, Renji and even Ishiida are clearly going to improve later, and Orihime will mainly appear due the love triangle.

Chad just gained a new power and right away got pwnd. Its pretty probable that next time he shows up, in a major battle, it'll be exactly the same. Its a pit, Chad is probably the most loyal friend and sk of Ichigos, he deserved more.




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Mammoth said:
ichikiba said:

As for the characters introduced in Hueco Mundo, I despise several of them, and not in the way I'm supposed to. I don't hate them because they're evil. I hate them because they're just repeats of the Gotei 13 captains. Grimmjow is pretty much the same as Kenpachi, Ulquiorra was much like Byakuya, Granz was the same as Mayuri (execpt their view on perfection), and so on.

I'd say Grimmjow was Renji. Both were hot-headed rivals Ichigo beat halfway through before moving on to their calm black haired superiors. But yeah, they're mostly rehashes. Kubo should go to TVTropes.com and pick up a few new archetypes. I wouldn't trust him with developing characters anyways, considering what happened to Orihime and Ichigo.



Which you know, was intentional.

Most HM characters mirror SS characters.
Jun 6, 2009 10:54 AM

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so her bankai a bazooka like real
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Which you know, was intentional.

Most HM characters mirror SS characters.


Yeah, I think Kubo said he's "drawing parallels". Which is nice and all but there's a few too many.
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i don't think bankai HAS to be like the shikai .. Ichigo's is about the opposite of his Shikai. but yes this was by far the lamest banaki yet, although probably the most 'wow wtf' and is relatively .. new for bleach.
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ichikiba said:
As for the characters introduced in Hueco Mundo, I despise several of them, and not in the way I'm supposed to. I don't hate them because they're evil. I hate them because they're just repeats of the Gotei 13 captains. Grimmjow is pretty much the same as Kenpachi, Ulquiorra was much like Byakuya, Granz was the same as Mayuri (execpt their view on perfection), and so on.

Anyway, getting back to the characters than have been pushed into the background, Chad in Hueco Mundo ended up the same way as he did in Soul Society--defeating a relatively weak enemy, only to end up almost dead at the hands of a much stronger opponent. Absolutely no progress, at all. His powers changed, but it's the same story.


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I'd say Grimmjow was Renji. Both were hot-headed rivals Ichigo beat halfway through before moving on to their calm black haired superiors. But yeah, they're mostly rehashes. Kubo should go to TVTropes.com and pick up a few new archetypes. I wouldn't trust him with developing characters anyways, considering what happened to Orihime and Ichigo.


I can see what you're talking about, but still, I dont think were exactly rehashes but ended being more of a cannon fodder, seriously. Existed only to get pawned by SS Captains & Cia. We got to see part of Nnoitra past, but only cuz It involved Nel also. Saw Ulquiorra remembering that deep inside he was emo. There was also a bit of Grimmjow past. The Espadas which seemed to be so much important b4, are basically all dead already, and nothing really great happened.

About Chad and the others, It's happens all the time in shounens, and Kubo surely would not make any different in his lol. As the protagonist pals can't keep w/ him in terms of "power" they tend to be left out. And the one who will suffer from it the most its Chad. Rukia, Renji and even Ishiida are clearly going to improve later, and Orihime will mainly appear due the love triangle.

Chad just gained a new power and right away got pwnd. Its pretty probable that next time he shows up, in a major battle, it'll be exactly the same. Its a pit, Chad is probably the most loyal friend and sk of Ichigos, he deserved more.


If kubo has any intelligence remaining, Chad will dominate in the future, mark my words.
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Fai said:
Mammoth said:
ichikiba said:

As for the characters introduced in Hueco Mundo, I despise several of them, and not in the way I'm supposed to. I don't hate them because they're evil. I hate them because they're just repeats of the Gotei 13 captains. Grimmjow is pretty much the same as Kenpachi, Ulquiorra was much like Byakuya, Granz was the same as Mayuri (execpt their view on perfection), and so on.

I'd say Grimmjow was Renji. Both were hot-headed rivals Ichigo beat halfway through before moving on to their calm black haired superiors. But yeah, they're mostly rehashes. Kubo should go to TVTropes.com and pick up a few new archetypes. I wouldn't trust him with developing characters anyways, considering what happened to Orihime and Ichigo.



Which you know, was intentional.

Most HM characters mirror SS characters.


Hm, I hadn't thought about Grimmjow and Renji, but, yea, I can see that.

And, I'm sure it was intentional. Something like that doesn't just happen through sheer negligence. But, they're a little too similiar. Though, to my honest, I may be a little biased. I may not like them for the fact that the Espada seem to be so popular, and the fans of the characters are so fanatical about it. Refusal to drink the kool-aid, I suppose. It happens to me with a lot of bad guys in shonen.

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If kubo has any intelligence remaining, Chad will dominate in the future, mark my words.


Well, at this point, it's pretty obvious that his powers are in relation to hollows. So, quite a few different things could happen concerning that. I just pray that it won't be that Chad will be taken in by the Soul Society, and Ichigo has to invade again to save him.

Hey, at least this time, it's not a woman. Though, be prepared for IchigoxChad implications, should this catastrophe take place.
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Iv'e just noticed, but since like the espada's are taking so long just to defeat a captain.Wouldn't Aizen show some kinda of annoyance being stuck in the flames waiting.I mean,it's a war isn't it?.Kill as fast as you can ?
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Aren't those fights happening all in the same time? Just because we see them separately, doesn't mean they go one after another, hm?
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Iv'e just noticed, but since like the espada's are taking so long just to defeat a captain.Wouldn't Aizen show some kinda of annoyance being stuck in the flames waiting.I mean,it's a war isn't it?.Kill as fast as you can ?


I think thats just all you can do with a manga lol, they cant really show all the fights happening at once but its assumed that they are all simultaneous I think.
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Nothing happened as usual ...
I like the design of Soi Fon's bankai but I think it look more like a Shikai ...
I wonder what happened to Hallibell, is she alive ? If she's not so the fight between Hitsugaya and Hallibell was too short. But I don't care now, I'm really bored of all these uninteresting fights ...
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Another meh and mediocre chapter. I am so excited to see Soi Fon's Bankai, and that's what I'll get? I hope something more interesting may happen.
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Totally unexpected bankai right there....and I kinda don't like it...hope Kubo expands on it besides just a blast, OHKO, and Soifon's portion is over for the time being.

Can we actually let one of the strongest captains fight and not play a game with the dumbest Fraccion member? Cmon man, give Ukitake some credit. -_-
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I think the MOST annoying part of all this... is the way the fights are put together... what is done is that they start 4-5 fights at the same time, then they show 10 pages of one fight and go to the next one where 4-5 of the pages have to show what recently happened in that fight (which we already know) and then the last 4-5 pages is actually "progress"...

I dont mind soi fons bankai, and for all those complaining about it dosnt suit her, well that was the point about it. and theres must be some more to that bankai than what we have seen, because if not soi fon is gonna die soon, that wont kill the number 2 espaada.

i also see many is complaining about yamato, and ukitake isn't giving it their all or anything. however if they waste energy on something that a vice captain or another captain can do, then who will fight aizen, tousen and gin when they get out of the flames ? well... the vaizards will, is my guess but they don't know about them just yet.
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I think the MOST annoying part of all this... is the way the fights are put together... what is done is that they start 4-5 fights at the same time, then they show 10 pages of one fight and go to the next one where 4-5 of the pages have to show what recently happened in that fight (which we already know) and then the last 4-5 pages is actually "progress"...

I dont mind soi fons bankai, and for all those complaining about it dosnt suit her, well that was the point about it. and theres must be some more to that bankai than what we have seen, because if not soi fon is gonna die soon, that wont kill the number 2 espaada.

i also see many is complaining about yamato, and ukitake isn't giving it their all or anything. however if they waste energy on something that a vice captain or another captain can do, then who will fight aizen, tousen and gin when they get out of the flames ? well... the vaizards will, is my guess but they don't know about them just yet.


I hope Soi Fon dies. I also thinks Aizen is stalling or something. Maybe the espada are actually adjuchas and the real vasto lordes are waiting in the wings. Maybe Aizen just wants to wear out the captains/slash kill a few, so the vasto lordes can tear through. I think thats when the Vizards will show up.
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Gryml said:
I think the MOST annoying part of all this... is the way the fights are put together... what is done is that they start 4-5 fights at the same time, then they show 10 pages of one fight and go to the next one where 4-5 of the pages have to show what recently happened in that fight (which we already know) and then the last 4-5 pages is actually "progress"...

i also see many is complaining about yamato, and ukitake isn't giving it their all or anything. however if they waste energy on something that a vice captain or another captain can do, then who will fight aizen, tousen and gin when they get out of the flames ? well... the vaizards will, is my guess but they don't know about them just yet.


Well, the first thing is probably an attempt to make these pathetic fights more interesting.

As for the second, if the Yamamoto and Ukitake would get off their butts and take on the Espada 2-on-1, they'd be able to kill them in short order. The whole one-on-one business is ridiculous when the fate of Soul Society and the Living World are at stake.
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I hope Soi Fon dies. I also thinks Aizen is stalling or something. Maybe the espada are actually adjuchas and the real vasto lordes are waiting in the wings. Maybe Aizen just wants to wear out the captains/slash kill a few, so the vasto lordes can tear through. I think thats when the Vizards will show up.



>_< please dont wish that on us..... that'll be another 500 chapters.....

bleach is pissing me off - but I'll continue to read because I really wanna find out how aizen is destroyed. plus i think tousen is a mole in aizen's group....
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Soifon's bankai shocked me too, but I think it was generally the only good thing of this chapter. Maybe Toushiro's attack, but then again he always pulls random attacks from nowhere...so....
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