| so I dont really know definition of loli as I never knew but as far as I remember it is basically young girl (like really young) who have no boobs. or almost no boobs. it is sometimes considered as pedophilia even thought it is basically just drawings. is it somehow a crime to draw sexualized girls who are younger than 18 or even 16 years old? is this something what laws should restrict? could it be banned in japan? is it really that serious to be considered as crime? please watch this video(yes yes, I know it is long but for the sake of discussion): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRnOdTbLWp0 and please tell us your opinion and what do you think about this matter. dont bother to write comments on that guys video, hes mad and will delete opinions that will be different from his opinion. so tell us here what do you think. if you happened to be too lazy to read this post and watch video: basicaly question is "is painted/animated sexualized young immature girls are somehow illegal/child abuse and supposed to be considered as crime and banned??" please note that we are not talking aout any real childrens abuse here. no real girls/childrens in this tread please. Mod Edit: Modified title for clarity and/or easier searching. |
VudisJul 9, 2014 10:28 AM
| please sell me the condom, mister I would like to fuck my sister! condoms really worth to keep I will fuck her very deep! could you be my condom keeper? so I could try to fuck her deeper! please think I m stupid but please dont think I m a troll. -------------------------------------------------------------- http://protpisaenglish.blogspot.com/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipzn0J8cfrY |
| All fiction and art that depicts illegal activities or questionable content such as sexualised underage anime gurls should be banned... is what a lameo would've said. |
| Just read this: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-06-04/japan-child-pornography-bill-would-not-restrict-anime-manga/.75222 I.E. no it's all just fine Mod Edit: Removed quote of deleted post. |
VudisJul 9, 2014 10:30 AM
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VanishingKira said: but the US wont ever ban gunsLolis will be banned once the US bans guns. |
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Here's how it is.  Like how Gamagori's pimp wagon was drawn to resemble a car, a drawing of a child is drawn to resemble a child. And that is why drawings of nude anime children is bad, kiddies. |
| 'The way of the wang is long...and hard' |
| In my opinion no it shouldn't because truthfully there is no physical harm being done whatsoever... unfortunately nowadays it seems like most people are playing Pictionary: paedo edition and love trying to get anything that seems like it could be even remotely related to child porn even when it isn't It annoys me when things end up getting banned just because a few people won't shut up and if it does get banned in Japan then it just shows that they have no backbone whatsoever and have caved in to pressure |
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| who cares? its not because something is banned thats it doesn't exist anymore. a ban on lolis isn't that big of a deal anyway. |
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Sourire said: who cares? its not because something is banned thats it doesn't exist anymore. a ban on lolis isn't that big of a deal anyway. A ban on lolis in Japan = The anime industry is finished, the manga industry suffers severe losses, the LN industry is reduced to near 20% capacity and 70% of Seinen market disappears (the other 30% deal with business, standard real life and political issues). You can't make anime based of LNs and manga for salarymen and the typical 30 year old and sell even 1k, fact, dark and edgy anime can be made but would it sell nope. |
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| Can't say I care much either way. On one hand, I think people should be able to do whatever they want to do when it comes to art, as long as it doesn't hurt anyone. On the other hand, those young anime girls seriously manages to creep me out sometimes! But just because I find most of them horrifying, doesn't mean other people can't enjoy it. I'll just steer my own nose clear of it. Easy as that. |
| For loli to be child abuse there would have to be real children involved. 2D drawings are not real, so they don't need to be protected from abuse. |
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| You can never rid the world of Loli it would be like prohibition people would simply create an underground market for it and organized crime would take root. It would be worse than when its legal. |
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| It's true that lolis that are involved in questionable or sexual situations are prohibited in Japan (and also the rest of the world), but a lolicon doesn't mean necessarily that you feel sexual attracted to underaged girls. Of course you feel attracted to those undeveloped, little girls with that innocent aura surrounding them, but that doesn't mean you want to have intercourse with them. I, myself, find myself attracted to lolis. But in the way of a big brother. Come on. Imagine those little cuties calling you "onii-chan!" with their high pitched voice as they expect you to pat their head. |
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| I'm fine as long as I still have my lolis |
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| I'm not giving away my waifu at least, that's for sure |
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HaXXspetten said: I'm not giving away my waifu at least, that's for sure You'd have to send the armies of every NATO country to make me give up my Yoshino. |
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| Wait, does this mean anyone would just get in trouble if they attempt to draw lolis? B-but, what about my dream? |
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kami_desu said: Wait, does this mean anyone would just get in trouble if they attempt to draw lolis? B-but, what about my dream? No, it's still okay to use lolis. But! If you're planning to draw them half naked, sitting on their knees in front of an old man, then you should reconsider drawing them. |
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Novelaer said: or just use it for yourself :>kami_desu said: Wait, does this mean anyone would just get in trouble if they attempt to draw lolis? B-but, what about my dream? No, it's still okay to use lolis. But! If you're planning to draw them half naked, sitting on their knees in front of an old man, then you should reconsider drawing them. noone else needs to know |
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HaXXspetten said: Novelaer said: or just use it for yourself :>No, it's still okay to use lolis. But! If you're planning to draw them half naked, sitting on their knees in front of an old man, then you should reconsider drawing them. noone else needs to know I think art with lolis should be shared with the rest of the world. To show all those nitwits that they are supreme and that if kids were like them, Japan's birth rate wouldn't be decreasing. |
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| The otakus would fight back. |
| "Let Justice Be Done!" My Theme Fight again, fight again for justice! |
RedRoseFring said: The otakus would fight back. According to the CBLDF, no they don't, the Otaku are scared of the tyranny, it's the publishers, novelists, artists, and mangaka who fight the law. |
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Novelaer said: HaXXspetten said: or just use it for yourself :> noone else needs to know I think art with lolis should be shared with the rest of the world. To show all those nitwits that they are supreme and that if kids were like them, Japan's birth rate wouldn't be decreasing. Here you go~ This is safe, yes? I'm not going to jail, right? |
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| She's adorable. |
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kami_desu said: Novelaer said: I think art with lolis should be shared with the rest of the world. To show all those nitwits that they are supreme and that if kids were like them, Japan's birth rate wouldn't be decreasing. Here you go~ This is safe, yes? I'm not going to jail, right? Perfect. It's better than anything I've ever drawn (and will draw). I'll be waiting for a doujinshi and possible manga adaptation. |
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kami_desu said: Novelaer said: I think art with lolis should be shared with the rest of the world. To show all those nitwits that they are supreme and that if kids were like them, Japan's birth rate wouldn't be decreasing. Here you go~ This is safe, yes? I'm not going to jail, right? Very nice- better than what I could ever draw, and perfectly safe |
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Hulmy said: I hope not, it's always nice to see an 8 year old girl sucking on a full grown man's penis. Silly girl, how can that possibly fit in your mouth? Seriously though, I hope not. They are cute as fuck! You know the little sister from Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu? So damn moe! If you're into such things, then you can find a lot of doujinshi involving that (although they're in Japanese). One does not ban lolis. Period.  |
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| If I found out a guy I was dating was -into- lolis, I'd break up with him, especially if it was in the ecchi/hentai sense. Even as an otaku, I can only take so much. |
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MaiTai said: If I found out a guy I was dating was -into- lolis, I'd break up with him, especially if it was in the ecchi/hentai sense. Even as an otaku, I can only take so much. I'd keep him but only break up if it goes too far, he might just be into the vanilla stuff and not the demented torture lolicon that exists. |
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Hoppy said: MaiTai said: If I found out a guy I was dating was -into- lolis, I'd break up with him, especially if it was in the ecchi/hentai sense. Even as an otaku, I can only take so much. I'd keep him but only break up if it goes too far, he might just be into the vanilla stuff and not the demented torture lolicon that exists. I guess, but just him being sexually aroused by it is enough to make my stomach turn. |
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| I'm pretty sure there have been some cases where some guy got caught possessing loli hentai and were sentenced to jail here in Canada. |
Tachii said: I'm pretty sure there have been some cases where some guy got caught possessing loli hentai and were sentenced to jail here in Canada. lol wasn't one of those dudes a MALer as well? Some black dude? I can't imagine what that'd be like though. To the average joe, it might as well be real child porn, good luck doing anything in life if someone decides to harass you about that kind of stuff. |
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LadyRenly said: Tachii said: I'm pretty sure there have been some cases where some guy got caught possessing loli hentai and were sentenced to jail here in Canada. lol wasn't one of those dudes a MALer as well? Some black dude? I can't imagine what that'd be like though. To the average joe, it might as well be real child porn, good luck doing anything in life if someone decides to harass you about that kind of stuff. I don't know if he was on MAL but if you mean this dude, he had more than just loli, he had real CP. |
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| I understand where this guy is coming from. While I think lolicon and shotacon shouldn't be banned since no children are being harmed in the making of the material, the underlying theme is still pedophilic. It isn't real, however, it's still portraying a child being displayed in a sexual manner. I also think there's a difference between "big sibling" kind of love for lolis and shotas, and then the sexual love the guy in the video was ranting about. It's all in the material being viewed. |
| Wait wuts wrong with loli's? Isn't it (as usual) the sexual content suppose to be questioned? Loli is beauty. I wouldn't want a background of two guys/shota's on my list EW |
porkypinkJul 9, 2014 3:46 AM
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| Lolis (and shotas) should be legal because... 1) Drawings don't have such thing as age. 2) How can there be a crime if no one is getting hurt? |
| The writer who penned Clashing Feelings. You can buy the light novel on Amazon. |
Shiratori-san said: Lolis (and shotas) should be legal because... 1) Drawings don't have such thing as age. So basically they are drawing young looking midgets |
VudisJul 9, 2014 10:43 AM
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| please sell me the condom, mister I would like to fuck my sister! condoms really worth to keep I will fuck her very deep! could you be my condom keeper? so I could try to fuck her deeper! please think I m stupid but please dont think I m a troll. -------------------------------------------------------------- http://protpisaenglish.blogspot.com/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipzn0J8cfrY |
d445 said: it is already banned in usa, australia and others No it hasnt. Lolicon shit is only illegal in the USA if it involves an adult and an under aged youth. I could link you to the Reddit lolicon gallery on imgur and show you the truth of what is and isnt "illegal". |
SolviteSekai said: d445 said: it is already banned in usa, australia and others No it hasnt. Lolicon shit is only illegal in the USA if it involves an adult and an under aged youth. I could link you to the Reddit lolicon gallery on imgur and show you the truth of what is and isnt "illegal". Any female with a flat chest is banned from porn in Australia real or 2D (18 or not), which has pretty much sealed my fate from ever living there. |
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| I draw lolis all day............ OH shyit I think I hear the cops! |
SolloskiJul 9, 2014 10:56 AM
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Hoppy said: So I've heard. Has to be one of the most discriminating policies in modern history, just makes you lose faith in humanity.SolviteSekai said: No it hasnt. Lolicon shit is only illegal in the USA if it involves an adult and an under aged youth. I could link you to the Reddit lolicon gallery on imgur and show you the truth of what is and isnt "illegal". Any female with a flat chest is banned from porn in Australia real or 2D (18 or not), which has pretty much sealed my fate from ever living there. |
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| Well it isn't illegal in the USA, unless it is an adult taking advantage of a child. And even then unless you are making and distributing it on a large scale, nobody gives a fuck. The police and FBI need to be out protecting people from crime, not regulating what is and isnt an offensive cartoon character. |
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