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Feb 13, 2009 4:03 AM

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vaberella said:

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Well, I disagree. If she was excluded, the show would lose a lot. Not only in terms of plot, but also in terms of its scent. Minori is a very vivid and comical character across the most part of the show and you can't easily remove her without affecting the general impression Toradora leaves on you. Moreover Minori is required to let us learn some important things in life:
1) how disturbed and depressed can an always smiling and cheering airhead feel deep inside
2) let us realize our blindness once we get a crush on someone. Minori exists in Toradora to let Ryuuji and Taiga understand the difference between their true feelings of love and feeling of getting a crush on somebody.

Obviously you disagree and I can’t bring myself to agree with you. I don’t see Minorin as a vivid or comical character and I don’t seem to be the only one. Her supposed “comedy” is more annoying and weird than really comedic. She’s definitely no Haruhi Suzumiya, who had sense to her madness. I can completely remove her from the story because she does nothing for me when it comes to the show. She’s easily removable. I think I would have preferred that Ryuuji had a crush on Kihara, who I actually liked or even Ami as his crush. They have character….Actually I can honestly tell you Ami’s character would have carried the angst of the relationship far better if she replaced Minorin and making Minorin Ami’s role----as in third girl. But keep the characters the same. This is what I’m saying. I’m more into and connected I find with Ami. If Ami was removed…the show would really have a different impression on me. Minorin is whatever.

1) She’s two face…without any purpose and I just don’t wonder those questions when I see her.
2) What? I don’t see that AT ALL. Minorin doesn’t exist in that role because I found that it was Ami who was verbally stating the difference between crushes and romantic feelings. NOT Minorin. It was Ami was really delivering some crazy sound advice even if I disagreed at times with her on what is going on. That was far from Minorin.


even though i think your idea of ami beeing takasu-kun's love interest is pretty cool i wouldn't want to miss minorin. especially not in the first half of the show where she made me laugh quite often. For me she was a great character to make the viewers get into the show. Ok, now she's more like a party pooper but that actually helps making the show more serious right?

Anyway: there are 6 episodes left (somebody said the show could end right here: NO FUCKING WAY) - enough space to get something else going. that's what i hope at least. I mean... Ami is still at the party in the school right? Takasu-kun fainted in front of the school right?? Maybe Ami gets a chance to cheer him up??? Chance!

Might be just me dreaming though >_>

I'm sooo looking forward to the next episode...

PS:Taiga with teddy bear and crying was pretty amazing
PPS: I didn't like the christmas song
PPPS: I like Ami and Taiga with normal hair and without lipstick more
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Oh boy. ;_;

Lots of unexpected things in this episode. Never seems to surprise me, this anime.

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Feb 13, 2009 5:13 AM
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I like it...the plot is going good till the end..
Feb 13, 2009 5:22 AM

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What an episode. It may be February, but I that Christmas song is catchy. I wouldn't mind it playing for the last 6 more episodes. I definitely like it better then the ending theme we had before.

I was expecting the whole Taiga and Ryuuji pairing to be handled in a worse way, but everything was handled well. I even felt really sad to see Taiga crying like that. With Ryuuji being rejected like that, I guess Taiga is going to reject Kitamura now. With 6 episodes left, it seems almost anything could happen with all the characters. I hope everything ends in a good postie way.
Feb 13, 2009 5:51 AM
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The thing pop up in my head is Takasu wear a pedo bear suit X Loli-body Taiga.... Something must be definitely wrong with me...
Feb 13, 2009 6:30 AM

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Ryuukishi said:

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It doesn't needm subs to explain that Kitamura is gay. <.<

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My emphasis.

You know, I've always thought of myself as rather insightful and quick to notice things... in this case the thought hadn't even crossed my mind. I'm actually rather hoping it's rather true.

Nice episode overall.
Feb 13, 2009 6:30 AM

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This sucks.
It's going on the direction of every romance anime out there.

I had expected Toradora to go off the unbeaten path and actually had the characters go for their first expected love. Now it seems that I won't get what I expected.
Sucks for generic plot.
Feb 13, 2009 6:34 AM

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I love special song episode! It's still stuck in my head.

It's to be expected that someone WILL be hurt in any love polygon stories. I think Toradora express it nicely, at least very unique, how these teenagers go through the events. Again I'm surprised how things turn out, although it's going to the initial anticipation: Taiga and Ryuuji as couple.

I thought Minori was about to accept Taiga's kindness but she saw poor Taiga in front of her apartment. I mean, after all these times, how come Taiga still don't have a feeling for Ryuuji? Even the ferocious Te Nori Taiga can be deredere/lovestruck when you least expect it. Our main character IS a tsunderekko after all.

Minori is much love, but I don't see her the type that's going out with a guy honestly. She's more of your sister figure who take care of friends, being looked up by her classmates, good at sports, etc. When she decided to reject Ryuuji, it's for everyone's sake including herself.

The next episode preview is what seems to be our traditional happy-go-round Toradora. Angst be gone. Much looking forward to it!
Feb 13, 2009 6:49 AM

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Awww, Taiga is so cute on that dress *_________*
Awww, Taiga and Ami's song was so cute ::: D
Kitamura was little perv but still funny.

I have to admit that it was little weird to watch Christmas episode in February, but the song was nice and whole episode too. And I laughed so hard when Ryuuji was knocking to Taiga's window XDDD And it was so cute that Taiga started to cry for Ryuuji, finally some Ryuuji x Taiga time.

It's little sad that there is going to be only six episodes :'''( It would be nice to have some OVA or special for this.

// saa CHRISTMAS, ippai no egao / ippai no negai <3_______<3 So nice part.
That song will be stuck on my head for a really long time. And it was nice to have special ending :--------)


Feb 13, 2009 7:13 AM

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The thing pop up in my head is Takasu wear a pedo bear suit X Loli-body Taiga.... Something must be definitely wrong with me...


Dude that crossed my mind. I have a friend who wants those "4chan" sites and I showed him that he loves pedo-bear the nutter. ^_^ He has this special pedo-bear t-shirt. After I showed him the clip he suddenly got into the anime <---And he was a die hard hater. He'll probably only say he liked the pedobear.

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even though i think your idea of ami beeing takasu-kun's love interest is pretty cool i wouldn't want to miss minorin. especially not in the first half of the show where she made me laugh quite often. For me she was a great character to make the viewers get into the show. Ok, now she's more like a party pooper but that actually helps making the show more serious right?

Anyway: there are 6 episodes left (somebody said the show could end right here: NO FUCKING WAY) - enough space to get something else going. that's what i hope at least. I mean... Ami is still at the party in the school right? Takasu-kun fainted in front of the school right?? Maybe Ami gets a chance to cheer him up??? Chance!

Might be just me dreaming though >_>

I'm sooo looking forward to the next episode...

PS:Taiga with teddy bear and crying was pretty amazing
PPS: I didn't like the christmas song
PPPS: I like Ami and Taiga with normal hair and without lipstick more


As much as I have wished for Ami...I've given up on them too. I love Ami as well, definitely a fave who's on the ball and I'm glad she was in the show. However, at the same time I realize why they went, or are going, if they go the Taiga/Ryuuji route. Only because they've built up the strongest relationship on the show and Ami and Minorin's relationship with Ryuuji still needs work.

I respect people who loved Minorin. I don't bash people who do since it's cool. People can like who they want. I just personally dislike the character due to major lack of development. I think most people assumed that when I was critical of the character in some way I was critical of them. Far from it. It's just I can't bring myself to like her because I think she's lacking. Now, by default it would imply that then something is wrong with the people who do like her even though she's not developed. That's not the case, considering there are people who find that she is nicely developed. She just doesn't meet my ceiling of what I consider developed.

As for your first question. I don't see Minorin as making it more serious or angsty. To be honest I felt Kitamura and Ami were the kings of making things very serious. Angst wise we got that from Taiga and Ryuuji. She brings her own drama to the board and I won't deny that...however I just don't find them engaging but more frustrating.

Do you mean is Ami still at the party towards the end and Ryuuji fainted in front of the school?! Yup and yup. She is, and I'm totally with you that I wouldn't mind her coming out and helping him up and caressing his hair and maybe a stolen kiss. Unlikely, but I'd totally support it. ^_^

PS. It was a good scene to watch although it made her look extra childish. I thought it was a very real moment which lead to even more realistic (as in humanistic) scenes from Taiga later on.

PPS. I adore the X-mas song and plan on playing it at the next family X-mas event. Haitian people listening to Japanese...crazy (Wish my daddy was here). If he were here, I'd beg him to translate them for me so I could sing along the proper way no help from CG there.

PPPS. Agreed. I also thought the black dress on Taiga was a bit dowdy although overall she looked lovely.

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Alrighty....Now here is my review with a couple of other things. Hmmm....I was all ready to lambast CoalGuys subbing here. I've had problems with them before but man, I pissed with an exponent when I couldn't understand what Taiga or Ryuuji was saying while they were talking at the same time, or understand the music in the beginning. As a note, I love fan subbers. I love fans who take the time out to do this kind of work. Shoot, I'm one of them (for dramas) and I donate like mad to my fave fansubbing teams. That being said, CoalGuys, even for taking the time out are definitely not that considerate when at least 5-10 minutes of each episode is unreadable. However, because they managed to pull off the X-mas theme song I gave them kudos and didn't turn this review into a massive rant.

4.5 by 5

I definitely like this episode. Now I will first off say a few things, this is the first time I'm seeing it subbed so many of my conclusions which I never really proposed here didn't come to fruition and a lot of things made sense. Anyway, I'll knock this off by character and make it easy.

I haven't done this sort of review since I watched SGA and it's been a long time since I've watched that show. Of course I'm sure my review would not be welcomed there, but apparently it was a rave with the SGA fanatics...But that's neither here nor there. Plus I'm adding a dislclaimer...which I also haven't done since SGA: The spoiler below is a long review. Don't read it if you can't handle more than 5 lines. It is not recommended since it is a detailed review of my impressions.

For those who may be wondering why I give such long reviews and take things seriously. I come from a scifi sect of people that do that. I have gotten into paged review battles----meaning we've written at least 3-5 page reviews on one tv show episode. It's acceptable in my group and I haven't changed since a lot of the people publish theirs in scifi mags (I do not)...but those are the people I associate with. When you see my long reviews...just see it as that and move on if it's bothersome.



All in all great ep and I liked it a great deal.
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I loved the episode. Looking forward to moar TaigaxRyuuji in the next episodes! :D
Feb 13, 2009 7:26 AM

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omg this episode was way too awesome. with the different ed and all it was perfectly.
so they will make a taiga x ryuuji i suppose. with minorin rejecting him and taiga cry after him it is really clear. lets see if there will be some big twists until the end. but that scene was soo touching with taiga running out and screaming, or ryuuji in the costume of the bear. overall really a perfect episode.


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Ami seems pissed, Taiga realizes her true feelings for a fatherly Ryuuji lol, and Minorin sacrifices everything to look like an ass. Liked the part where Taiga was all creeped out at first when seeing pedobear.
Feb 13, 2009 7:57 AM

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I like TaigaXRyuuji, wanted it right from the start, so I'm pretty pleased, and hope things lean towards the way I want it to be =P.

Taiga running after Ryuuji was a bit surprising, but nicely done.

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Feb 13, 2009 7:57 AM

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...and there a potentially great conclusion went down the drain. I hope they make something good out of the last six episodes, but I doubt it. :/
Feb 13, 2009 8:01 AM

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WTFwasThat said:
Ami seems pissed, Taiga realizes her true feelings for a fatherly Ryuuji lol, and Minorin sacrifices everything to look like an ass. Liked the part where Taiga was all creeped out at first when seeing pedobear.

I guess I was slow on the uptake, but maybe Taigi does have an Electra Complex. Ami points it out, Ryuuji wears her dad's suit...

And all this pedobear talk. Imagine if it wasn't Ryuuji in the suit. Parents should warn kids not to open their windows if any suspicious bears knock on them.
Feb 13, 2009 8:18 AM

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I really LOOOVED THIS EPISOOODE!!! Honestly, it was so perfect, it was so touching seeing Ryuuji hugging Taiga in that santa bear suit, it made my cry... And finally Taiga realized her feelings for Ryuuji!! It was so sad... I've waited for this since I started to watch Toradora... TAIGA X RYUUJI FOR EVER!!! TORADORA <33
Feb 13, 2009 8:26 AM

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This time around, I don't have any smart stuff left to say. I'm not the type who gets easily emotional, but i'm shocked and almost in tears. This is probably the first time when I just sit with my jaw dropped, and probably look like Taiga holding the scarf.

Without further ado, Toradora is my new #1 anime.
Feb 13, 2009 8:41 AM
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AWESOME EPISODE! :D
Ryuuji in bear suit was funny XD
This anime got SOOOOOOOOOOO much better from episode 1

Anyways, Taiga x Ryuuji ftw ;_;
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AkariChan said:

Somewhat, the plots are expected :3


Akari Chan, can I have this pic in higher resolution for a background?

This was a very amazing episode as far as the series plays out, and a most interesting route to take it. Though it is cliche, this route probably is the quickest for development and keeping with the short arts(2-3 episodes a peice, if I'm counting). Suzuka did the opposite of this series, what most of you guys wanted
I think that JC made this work, and in a very creative way so that we could keep guessing. If they would've made it anything else, it kinda would've been TOO obvious.

Anyways, Taiga was just cute throughout, and I so just wanted to give her a hug(or a cookie) after she started crying! It's about time though that she wised up! Now if Ryuji would get a clue(though I believe he's starting to, as he was kinda indecisive for a second there).

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I loved this episode, finally Taiga realises her feelings for Ryuji. Now Ryuj needs to realise that Minorin was just a fantasy and he never really liked her, just her energy and optimisim. I think Ryuj loved Taiga long before Taiga love him, almost from the very beginning, he's just able to understand that his feelings of protectiveness and friendship come from love, not the daddy syndrome, as Ami was trying to say.
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One word: Pedobear!

Ahem...and I thought RyuujixMinorin was finally developing. It's a shame that RyuujixTaiga is almost inevitable now. This episode was funny, cute, and sweet, yet so sad. The only bad thing I can think of is that the final is pretty obvious now, if it wasn't already.

On a side note, I'll love this show if they can bring Ryuuji and Ami together through a plot-twist.
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Really loved this ep.
The end is becoming a little predictable, but still love the story.
Someone told the novel was beter than the anime and the manga, i have a hard time finding a site where i can read the novel can someone plz help me with that :)

anyway, it was a great episode singing was great but the part with playing santa was funny like hell.
Feb 13, 2009 9:42 AM

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Good episode, but it way too early for this kind of episode if it really is going to be RyuujixTaiga. If this was the second or third to last episode then I would have said it was a lock, however, with six episodes left I'm still not sure at all. RyuujixTaiga is not convincing to me at all.

I expect a last ditch effort Ami blitzkrieg and more Minorin emo-ness to come.

Feb 13, 2009 9:46 AM

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Great episode, and man was I right. I knew that Minori wanted to be with Takasu, but she didn't want to hurt Taiga, that's why she was being strange. Kinda pisses me off though, I always loved MinorixTakasu.
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Really loved this ep.
The end is becoming a little predictable, but still love the story.
Someone told the novel was beter than the anime and the manga, i have a hard time finding a site where i can read the novel can someone plz help me with that :)

anyway, it was a great episode singing was great but the part with playing santa was funny like hell.
Check out Baka-Tsuki.

...and now that I think over again, I realized how much I hate this episode for deciding the outcome of the show. Waiting for an Ami or Minorin is just wishful thinking.
Feb 13, 2009 10:08 AM
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It's not over -- !!

Ryuuji tried to confess his feelings that night but Taiga 'rejected' him!!

Why do you think she ran after him in despair?

And Minorin rejected him -- !!

I think Taiga is too proud to confess! And she is also a klutz when it comes to love --

So it's finally 'Ryuuji's' arc and who he really develops feelings for !!
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It's not over -- !!

Ryuuji tried to confess his feelings that night but Taiga 'rejected' him!!

Why do you think she ran after him in despair?

And Minorin rejected him -- !!

I think Taiga is too proud to confess! And she is also a klutz when it comes to love --

So it's finally 'Ryuuji's' arc and who he really develops feelings for !!


Eh?! How did you read that Taiga rejected him after he was trying to confess? Can you break that down?

She ran after him for on easy reason. Taiga realized HER feelings for Ryuuji and wanted to confess. She's not shy about confessing and she wanted Ryuuji to herself. But there was no way Ryuuji was going to confess to her, he was going to stay with her but not confess from what I could see and Taiga definitely did not reject him. He had Minorin on the mind from the beginning of the ep until Ami reminded him of Taiga's issues and he ran after her. But you don't go from having a gift for Minorin and wearing a bear costume at the school waiting for another woman if he was going to confess to Minorin. Which I think he's done more than once.

Taiga is too proud to confess?! Are you kidding? Go back to the Beach house ep, I believe ep 10 and she almost confessed then to him. She clearly said she felt the dream about her being the mother of his dogs to be foreshadowing . Why would she be too proud to confess?

She is a klutz when it comes to a crush. When it comes to Ryuuji she's fairly clear. Go back to the ep where he was hurt in the pool competition episode. She's far from a klutz considering it was her who saved him.

I thought the entire story was around Ryuuji since he's the main. I find that if he needed an arc and was getting one he had one when it came to Taiga's dad story because all that was dominated by Ryuuji.

AS for his feelings...I find he has developed a crush on Minorin but will probably end up with Taiga but so far there's nothing to suggest his romantic feelings for Taiga but there is no denying he cares greatly for Taiga and is emotionally connected to her distress and will do what it takes to make her happy. Yet, he hasn't realized that as love though.
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AkariChan said:

An awesome idea! =)

This episode was really beautiful. I suppose all 5 of them will stay friends in the end, no pairings. Though I wish Taiga and Ryuji were together in the end, because their story somehow reminds my own story. I was also relying on a man considering him just a friend, and now we're in love ^___^

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This episode seriously made me want to cry manly tears, but my manlyness took over and kept myself from being a raging faggot..
Really good episode.
Kinda rage worthy though.

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something really long >:


I just meant that when Taiga 'rejected' him, is because she forced minorin on him!! Making him leave her house so he could confess!! It seems like he wanted to stay, but she kicked him out !!

I take her running after him as a sign of 'regret' meaning, she didn't want him to leave but forced him anyways -- ! Love is a tricky thing, I feel like if I liked somebody (well, started too!), but they told me that I should go after somebody else that it's somewhat of a rejection, yeah?

I feel like being a 'mother' and being a 'wife' is very different, kind of like the metaphore of Ryuuji being a 'father' and not a 'husband' --

The klutz thing is based of what she stated, I'm just quoting Taiga >:

I think the whole plot so far was about the three girls -- Just my adaptation though!! I think that while we know the feelings of all of the three girls (who all like Ryuuji) we really don't know who Ryuuji likes!! (Besides Minorin (1st episode) -- and kind of Taiga..but that was only in the past 3 episodes) It seems everyone developed more character-wise than Ryuuji -- he's still the same as before. That's all I meant >:


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Okay, I just had to post to say...

What is with the people who are so against RyuujixTaiga?

It makes no sense to me. It's the most obvious pairing because it's the most realistic pairing, and to do something else just for the sake of doing something else (and no other reason besides, as far as I can tell) is not going to do the show any favors.

Now, that aside, this was a beautiful episode. The party, Taiga's joy at seeing santa, her subconscious realization of what exactly she had done, Ryuuji's fainting... all wonderfully executed. I nearly cried when Taiga's tears began dropping.

Even better is the fact that there's still five or six more episodes to go, so things aren't so clear-cut just yet. Really looking forward to more.
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Okay, I just had to post to say...

What is with the people who are so against RyuujixTaiga?

It makes no sense to me. It's the most obvious pairing because it's the most realistic pairing, and to do something else just for the sake of doing something else (and no other reason besides, as far as I can tell) is not going to do the show any favors.

Now, that aside, this was a beautiful episode. The party, Taiga's joy at seeing santa, her subconscious realization of what exactly she had done, Ryuuji's fainting... all wonderfully executed. I nearly cried when Taiga's tears began dropping.

Even better is the fact that there's still five or six more episodes to go, so things aren't so clear-cut just yet. Really looking forward to more.


I think Ryuuji just did the dramatic fall backwards, that I see in a lot of anime -- but everyone thinks he fainted?

I guess we'll have to wait and see!!

But I agree, the whole anime was about RyuujixTaiga (I mean, ToraxDora) but it was sooo good that it lead us to stray otherwise!
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OMG..so this wa sone of the BEST..the scene with taiga and ami singing was awesome..and the part with ryuuji and taiga..and taiga realising this..was very emotional..i really loved it..i really hope taiga and ryuuji end up together...personally..i'm glad that kushieda is out of the way
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A troll will be always a troll.
Not everyone likes lumps of cliches and predictable plot so kindly shut up.
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I think Ami looked the best in this episode, Taiga was a close second. Ryuuji looked like Kitano from Angel Densetsu in his suit. Kinda saw this coming for awhile, but sad to see Minorin have to sacrifice her own heart. Although, plenty of show left so who knows what they'll throw our way...
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One word: Pedobear!

This.

Also, saa xmas.
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I had to pause and laugh when they started singing. It's the first time this show has done anything so stupid that I had to do that.

EDIT: Finished the episode; I guess I saw that coming, but it ended up making things a lot more complicated.
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Lulu-san said:
Antanaru said:
Well, there are still 6 episodes for Taiga to die. There is still chance for better ending. And who said Taiga was sexy? Crap, I've just completed CG R2 and character design in TD still makes me puke.


A troll will be always a troll.


Just because someone have a different opinion than the most, or most likely to say, than YOU, it doesn't make him/her a troll... saying that you just made a so called "troll" of yourself. Congrats.

And so to not make it an offtop: I didn't like that episode, too. The part with the singing was totaly out of the picture, just like entire 13th episode. And those gross haircuts... But, of course, the most horrifing was the episode's final... man, really, either they are slowly telling us to don't have high hopes, or want to make a huge surprise in the end. Let's hope for the latter.
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Haircuts were groos, but song was really good.
Feb 13, 2009 12:29 PM

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Really nice episode, one of those that reminded me how good this series really is. Also nice with progress in the plot, but poor, poor Taiga. I hope everything workes out for her and takasu

And Ryuuji in suit, more of that please~


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Feb 13, 2009 12:34 PM
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Thank god Minorin's arc is done. I was tired of her.

While Taiga may be the obvious end, at this point in the anime it's way better then either of the two other options...

But i'm still a supporter of Ryuuji dressing up like yakuza, and start dating his mom. She's a babe.
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I hope Minorin will become happy again, like she was when she thought Taiga and Ryuuji were together. It sounds like she will, from the preview.

*Sigh to Taiga. Oh how I love her. 6 more episodes - I'm sure gonna be sad when this is over - maybe even more sad than I was when Kimikiss ended.
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Damn it. Those two talking about Kitamura's cloths just made me lose the game.

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1.Thank god Minorin's arc is done. I was tired of her.

2.While Taiga may be the obvious end, at this point in the anime it's way better then either of the two other options...

3.But i'm still a supporter of Ryuuji dressing up like yakuza, and start dating his mom. She's a babe.


1. So true.
2. Maybe better then the Minorin x Ryuuji, but deffinitly not better then Ryuuji x Ami
3. Man, thats really sick.

It felt so weird Taiga and Ami dressed like that. Cute non the less

I loled so hard when Kitamura said "Then am I hot, but cute!"
It was so wrong that i feel bad at myself for laughting at that.
Ryuuji's expressions was priceless as well.

I'm glad i this episode didn't air before christmass. It would surely ruin my christmass.

Thank god toradora doesn't have pantyshots. It would deffinitly kill moments like 15:43.
Too bad my perverted mind made me the favor of remembering it, and killing the moment.

I take back what i said bout the Predictable ending killing this series.
I was so wrong....

Though an Ami x Ryuuji would be as Awesome as Taiga x Ryuuji

Ryuuji is a genius.
I couldn't get what that nut was saying when she was rejecting him.
Though atleast i was right bout Minorin backing off for taiga's sake.

This arc is the finishing blow against all other possible endings.
After all, they (producers) wouldn't make Minorin back off for Taiga when Takasu is going for Ami. you all know that.

I can grasp that in the end Ami is going to travel to a far away country, just like Kanon, minorin will still be a nut, and taiga and ryuuji will be happy ever. end.
dang.

Well, I'M STILL IN DENIAL! Takasu x Ami FTW!


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superman89 said:
I think Ami looked the best in this episode, Taiga was a close second. Ryuuji looked like Kitano from Angel Densetsu in his suit. Kinda saw this coming for awhile, but sad to see Minorin have to sacrifice her own heart. Although, plenty of show left so who knows what they'll throw our way...
THIS!
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Okay, I just had to post to say...

What is with the people who are so against RyuujixTaiga?

It makes no sense to me. It's the most obvious pairing because it's the most realistic pairing, and to do something else just for the sake of doing something else (and no other reason besides, as far as I can tell) is not going to do the show any favors.

Now, that aside, this was a beautiful episode. The party, Taiga's joy at seeing santa, her subconscious realization of what exactly she had done, Ryuuji's fainting... all wonderfully executed. I nearly cried when Taiga's tears began dropping.

Even better is the fact that there's still five or six more episodes to go, so things aren't so clear-cut just yet. Really looking forward to more.


I couldn't and I mean really couldn't agree with you more. I did cry when Taiga started crying...I'm a basket case when women I like cry on tv and I react in kind. So far Taig was definitely able to do what so far only Ariel Lin has done and that has made me break down miserably. Oy...my nose are stuffed as I speak.

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something really long >:


I just meant that when Taiga 'rejected' him, is because she forced minorin on him!! Making him leave her house so he could confess!! It seems like he wanted to stay, but she kicked him out !!

I take her running after him as a sign of 'regret' meaning, she didn't want him to leave but forced him anyways -- ! Love is a tricky thing, I feel like if I liked somebody (well, started too!), but they told me that I should go after somebody else that it's somewhat of a rejection, yeah?

I feel like being a 'mother' and being a 'wife' is very different, kind of like the metaphore of Ryuuji being a 'father' and not a 'husband' --

The klutz thing is based of what she stated, I'm just quoting Taiga >:

I think the whole plot so far was about the three girls -- Just my adaptation though!! I think that while we know the feelings of all of the three girls (who all like Ryuuji) we really don't know who Ryuuji likes!! (Besides Minorin (1st episode) -- and kind of Taiga..but that was only in the past 3 episodes) It seems everyone developed more character-wise than Ryuuji -- he's still the same as before. That's all I meant >:




First paragraph: Well keep in mind that Taiga was supposed to be helping him pair up with Minorin. This was a chance and she didn't want him to miss it. There had been a lot of times Taiga set something up for him and he's sacrificed it to be with her. She didn't want that especially at Christmas since she wanted that to be her gift to him, Minorin's heart basically. I don't know if I read that as rejection. I just read that as a friend not having her closest friend pass up a big chance he's been waiting for a long time. You implied in your post that Ryuuji was confessing to Taiga. I disagreed or really asked where that was seen.

Second paragraph: Well we don't know if Ryuuji was starting to like Taiga. Or I should say we don't know how much or really the extent of his feelings. We know Taiga's but not his too much. We see the lingering doubts and the moments where he pauses in his feelings but as for something definitive like Taiga's we haven't seen that yet. So I don't see that as a rejection. Well I can't see it as such because Taiga clearly said she wanted him to go after Minorin.

Third paragraph: Mother and wife are very different? I'm not sure I understand your perspective but keep in mind I was a bit frazzeled by Ami's statement and didn't fully agree with her view; particularly since she's not in the "know" as to the "ins" and "outs" of Ryuuji and Taiga's relationship. So I felt she was a bit skewed. But I'm not sure your train of thought though.

Fourth statement: You're quoting Taiga episodes ago when she was talking about Kitamura. However, Taiga has also said what she is like with Ryuuji is completely diferent. She said it before the swimming competition, she implied it at the swimming competition she said it at the Beach house and on and on. When she is with Kitamura she's a klutz and makes mistakes. However when she's with Ryuuji we see her actions and attitude is very different from whenever she is around Kitamura.

Fifth paragraph: I have to disagree. Basically the story revolves around Ryuuji and no one else. I find that Ryuuji is actually developed in the way he handles each women's emotions, his relationship with each women and those around him, and his move from being a rather overbearing carebear to actually just being supportive and caring. I always felt early on that Ryuuji is just a laid back kind of guy. I also got the feeling, and without his even knowing it, that all he ever wanted to do with Minorin or for Minorin he's done and is doing with Taiga. He goes shopping with Taiga, he makes food for Taiga, he is always by Taiga's side, he sews Taiga's clothes. This is my problem with Ami's statement. This is not the lines of a father per say to a child, because if we back track to the first or second episode majority of what he said he was planning and wanted to with Minorin he's done with Taiga and more. I think this is also why Ryuuji was so happy and didn't understand his emotions when Taiga said "he was hers".

I do agree that we're not too sure about where Ryuuji's feelings may be (yet) but I think he's going to go through the same "epiphany" as Taiga and really see the full extent of his feelings.

Bladin said:
Thank god Minorin's arc is done. I was tired of her.

While Taiga may be the obvious end, at this point in the anime it's way better then either of the two other options...

But i'm still a supporter of Ryuuji dressing up like yakuza, and start dating his mom. She's a babe.


I'm more into Ami or Taiga...but his mom ain't bad...a bit incestuous but they could always work around that. ^_^ On everything else I agree---Minorin's "sort of" arc couldn't end fast enough, well with Minorin, everyone else was great. I hope his dad comes back. It would be interesting if they extended the story we got to meet Ryuuji's family. It's interesting to find out that Ya-chan's parents might still be alive and that Ryuuji's dad might still be alive too.
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Maybe i'm wrong, but wasn't it stated that his dad died or something?

Thinking bout it, i don't remeber anything about his dad being dead.
Maybe that might be used if the next episodes become something like an Takasu Arc.
Which seems pretty much possible to me.

Though i think the staff wouldn't use twice the "dad's back home".
It would kind of become boring.

Indeed Ryuuji's feelings still are a mistery, though like i said before,
Ryushi said:
This arc is the finishing blow against all other possible endings.
After all, they (producers) wouldn't make Minorin back off for Taiga when Takasu is going for Ami. you all know that.



DaBigD said:
On a side note, I'll love this show if they can bring Ryuuji and Ami together through a plot-twist.
I would deffinitly love that. Though that seems as possible as Key releasing Kyou After... -__-"
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Bladin said:


While Taiga may be the obvious end, at this point in the anime it's way better then either of the two other options...


I agree

I used to hate the Ryuuji x Taiga pairing too but this episode changed my mind. that ending will be fine with me now (:
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and the super de-duper drama unfolds!
epic Ep imho but that was kinda depressing...
cant wait for this series to end though... i wanna see the ending so bad omg
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I don't think it was "epic" but it was very good. A lot of drama. It's sort of strange watching this while its almost valentines day, but it's alright :] And, does anyone think that Taiga looks the best in this anime besides me?
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That was just BS. Typical that the one girl Ryuuji likes is the one who rejects him. Maybe Minori isn't the right girl for him?

I Lol'd during the whole pedobear-santa sequence. Sorry, it was so cute, yet it felt so wrong.



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