The 1st volume of SnK sells 56,793 for the first week

Pipoko said:
I really dislike how ignorant and one-sided you are with your assumptions.

Pipoko said:
I really dislike how ignorant and one-sided you are with your assumptions.

eldest said:


so now were talking the global fanbase?
a few post back you were talking about 'a few users

im talking about mal.
and this show has 50k+ members, quite a sizable pool to draw consclusions from, and the threads constantly (or did) get 500+ posts.

eldest said:


yeah, snk fans tend to dislike anything that isnt praise for SNK.
see both threads linked in both mine and skudoops comments for a prime example

Beaver897 said:


So yeah, 5% of the MAL users watching SnK doesn't say much.

Pipoko said:


Nope. The thread itself is automatically the kind that will get probably get angry responses. Are you really expecting a fan of a series not to defend the series they like?

eldest said:


i wonder if he realizes that hes just proving me right. hmm

Pipoko said:
If you hard-headedly do not accept any other ways to explain something, that's not really a sign of a bad fanbase.

eldest said:


so even if we take your random numbers pulled outta air and go with your assumption, youre telling me that sampling 1 in 20 users on this entire site isnt an adequate sample size to make a based observation.


/kay



i never said otherwise.
i can go to pretty much any anime subforum from madoka to gunbuster to NGE to k-on to FLCL to cowboy bebop and people can admit their favorite anime have flaws.
i can admit my favorite anime all have flaws,

but snk is a whole different level.

eldest said:


youre right.
the sign of a bad fanbase has already been shown in 2 other threads in both mine and skudoops comments.

eldest said:


so even if we take your random numbers pulled outta air and go with your assumption, youre telling me that sampling 1 in 20 users on this entire site isnt an adequate sample size to make a based observation.


/kay

Pipoko said:


No it's not. Just read the freaking episode 15 thread or episode 14 or 10-12 threads. A lot of people say these are slow episodes, some like it more some don't. Otherwise all the polls would have 100% on them.

eldest said:


and as linked in skudoops thread, the second anyone says that, automatic 'hater troll blah blah; responses. every time.

also.
every single SNK episode thread has the 5/5 score beating the next lowest by a minimum of 3-500. votes

Pipoko said:

It's the kin d of freaking thread! It's gonna have troll and hater calls in it. It's just one thread too! That's hardly the freaking whole fanbase.

eldest said:


just 1 thread?
youre joking right?

right off the bat theres already 2 threads linked.
seriously, go to any snk episode thread, click a random page and read it.

Beaver897 said:


I've never heard of any labels being given to the Bleach Community, Naruto community or even One Piece community as strongly as you're giving SnK.

eldest said:

also.
every single SNK episode thread has the 5/5 score beating the next lowest by a minimum of 3-500. votes

eldest said:


have you been on any anime forum on the entire internet that hasnt given those 3 anime and their fans far more crap.

infact its an internet wide thing, they even have a name for those 3 'the big 3'

i challenge you to find me an anime forum that doesnt give those 3 excessive hate

Pipoko said:

For crying out loud, not even two threads represent the whole fandom! You're a unnecessarily picky asshole.

Pipoko said:

SnK gets quite a bit hate, too.

eldest said:


ive just said literally every single thread in the snk subforum twice now

read the comment.
process what ive said
reply.

Pipoko said:


It's the kind of freaking thread! It's gonna have troll and hater calls in it. It's just one thread too! That's hardly the freaking whole fanbase. If you don't like the series, fine, but your thoughts and views aren't absolute!

Pipoko said:


A lot of the threads have haters and critical users in there, too! Criticism is gonna get responses from those who disagree. It's the most logical thing users do! Just because a majority likes this series and you don't doesn't make the whole fanbase horrible.

Beaver897 said:

And then Ep. 12 and 13 showed a whole section of how Jean was left behind and was running away from Titans because not all the Titans were attracted to the walls already and still randomly encountered Jean, haha.

Pipoko said:
and you're not always right. Geez. This even isn't my favorite series. Darklight isn't thousands of people. Just one users who likes todefend SnK whenever possible, which kind of annoys me too sometimes.

eldest said:


if you actually read the thread i never said they were attracted to walls.
i said they were attracted to people.

youre comment even agrees.

thats another discussion though.



where did i say it was?
dont jump to conclusions.

i can admit when im wrong.

but the claim im making about the snk fanbase being rabid (compared to most other anime) on MAL is clearly true.

Pipoko said:

Of course it has it passionate fraction! It gained a huge fanbase! The entire fanbase can't all be like that and it isn't the only one! All big series have people like Darklight!

Pipoko said:


Of course it has it passionate fraction! It gained a huge fanbase! The entire fanbase can't all be like that and it isn't the only one! All big series have people like Darklight!

Beaver897 said:

And in the end, Darklight wins because he's happy with SnK and nobody can take that away from him. Simple-mindedness wins!

im not referring to just 1 person though.

eldest said:


im not reffering to just 1 person though.

correct me if im wrong but i beleive death note is the most popular anime on this site.
you can go post there now about how you may or may not think the series went downhill after L dies.

you wont get hundreds of fans spouting the same old shit at you though.

Pipoko said:


Because that's the one part most agree, key word, "most agree" to be where the series went downhill. thnx for the spoilers btw(jk, already knew even if I haven't watched the whole series). There's plenty of things this fanbase disagrees on, too. Was Eren turning into a Titan really necessary? Are all the other reveals total crap that ruin the series. There just isn' anything as divisive in this series yet. Most people like it with good reason. If you don't like it, that's just you.

eldest said:


i understand that i in no way represent even the minority of people on these forums but its still a safe claim to say that SNK fans are all excessively rabid even compared to other more popular anime.

you can post all the hate in the world you want for NGE, and the thread will turn into a philisophical discussion after a few pages analyzing the themes of the post criticizing it, or agreeing with it.

you can go to the monogatari threads and call it a powerpoint presentation and people will either laugh and agree and then explain the other reasons people like it (character interactions etc)

you can post that you hated post timeskip TTGL and people will explain why they thought it was necesarry

you post anything negative in the SNK threads though

automatic response x10

hater
troll
mad your fave show is no longer top/best selling
there is no pacing issues
etc.
blah blah blah

Pipoko said:


NGE is another very divisive series with many divisive moments! It's a given to fans of that that it's gonna get hate. Same for Bakemonogatari. It's a thing the series has clearly shown to have a very prominent flaw in. It's what is grown to be known for. SnK doesn't have something that extreme yet and the anime hasn't even ended yet.

eldest said:


okay. this isnt going to end anytime soon.
ill just leave it as it is.

eldest said:



you can post all the hate in the world you want for NGE, and the thread will turn into a philisophical discussion after a few pages analyzing the themes of the post criticizing it, or agreeing with it.

you can go to the monogatari threads and call it a powerpoint presentation and people will either laugh and agree and then explain the other reasons people like it (character interactions etc)

you can post that you hated post timeskip TTGL and people will explain why they thought it was necesarry

you post anything negative in the SNK threads though

automatic response x10

hater
troll
mad your fave show is no longer top/best selling
there is no pacing issues
etc.
blah blah blah

skudoops said:


I can agree with this, although I don't think the fanbase as a whole is rabid, but the vocal people here definitely don't react kindly to criticism of this show. No one tries to stop and just type back a proper counter argument or explanation of why things maybe the way they are. It just boils down to insults or one liners and it gets old fast. It's the reason I left this board in particular even though I was here from day one.

Like for instance I criticized TTLG for its first few episodes and many of the fans agreed that was the case without flaming. Some even saying why they didn't think it was all that bad.

I've gone into long discussions about NGE, the rebuilds and Madoka Magica (one of my favourites) and I don't see this type of response to negative statements like I see here. I make one topic here and seriously only two replies were worth reading, the rest was picture spam and one liners. That is just lame as hell.

Pipoko said:


You're in a pretty wrong place then, I guess, plus the linked threads were kind of asking it with the title? Because There's plenty of great content I've seen from the fans of SnK and interesting discussions, too, specifically in the manga section. If you think one thread or even few like that is the representation of a whole fanbase go ahead, not stopping you, but it is pretty ignorant. I've personally seen a lot of stupid fanwank from eva fans, does that mean, I automatically hate all of them for it as I personally really am not a fan of the series? No.

skudoops said:


Well I actually said I didn't think the fanbase as a whole was like that. Just the ones here really.

eldest said:


all the snk fans that always pulled the stock
'LOL U JUST MAD YOUR FAVE SHOW IS NO LONGER TOP AND SNK IS SELLING BETTER'
top fucking lol, shows rating hasnt gone up in weeks, its been going down actually, and snk isnt even the 1st or second best selling show of the season.
so much for that bullshit lol.



i wouldnt take anything he says about SNK as anything more than wishful fanboyism.
i actually remember in another thread that he pulled the 'lol u mad youre fave show is no longer top selling or rated etc' bs

then i said i was a steins gate and clannad AS fan so that logic is pointless.

he then actually said it doesnt count because there was a time that SNK was rated higher than both.

i wish i was joking too. im gonna go see if i can find the post for a good chuckle.
(edit, linked. threads a good read)
now before the rabid SNK fans get angry at my post, 57k is by no means bad sales, its actually pretty damn good, but it isnt the second coming of christ so many of you all predicted lol

eldest said:


okay. this isnt going to end anytime soon.
ill just leave it as it is.

sim0n2170 said:
Nice to see Volume 3 sold 38,752 (Blu-ray + DVD)

Xinception said:


I'll continue to sell well ! This is only the first week, no?