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Dec 24, 2008 6:30 PM

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1) I never thought that he was trying to say that DVD Rips were worse than fansubs lol.

2) You could always download the dual audio DVD Rips *wink*. They're freeeee :D.
You really are completely missing the point, after all. Fansubs have an actual excuse. DVD rips do not.

1) Fansubs, in the usual case, exist to provide the usual Non-Japanese watcher otherwise unaccessible material. That's why the more established fansub groups (read as: the ones who aren't hiding) stop distribution as soon as a distributor obtains the license for the region in question (usually North America) or the Japanese companies distribute it themselves. Sure, most watchers go for them because they are free, but the main point IS that they provide access to programs we just can't get in any other form.

2) What you are advocating is plain and simply stealing. It doesn't even have an excuse to ride upon. You are downloading an illegal ripped video from a material you could obtain in a legal way in your own region. You shamelessly say to yourself "I can get it for free, so why should I pay?" and don't look back.

3) Now, I won't call myself innocent of partially going for fansubs because they are free, but at the very least I try to concede and buy anime I enjoy. I guess that would make me a little of a hypocrite(sp?) though.


1) I don't give a shit about fansubs, so whatever.

2) I would buy all of my english dubbed anime on DVDs if I ever had cash, which I never do cuz I have no possible way of earning it :(.

3) Maybe?
Dec 24, 2008 7:08 PM

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Baby_Naruto said:


1) I never thought that he was trying to say that DVD Rips were worse than fansubs lol.

2) You could always download the dual audio DVD Rips *wink*. They're freeeee :D.

1) ...Except he kind of was. 'Scuse me for putting words in someone else's mouth, but he did say he "despise[d]" them.

2) Are you kidding? I've got way more than I can ever watch even keeping it legal. For my personal situation, DVD rips have a disadvantage over legit DVDs and streams.

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Anomalous said:
Baby_Naruto said:


1) I never thought that he was trying to say that DVD Rips were worse than fansubs lol.

2) You could always download the dual audio DVD Rips *wink*. They're freeeee :D.

1) ...Except he kind of was. 'Scuse me for putting words in someone else's mouth, but he did say he "despised" them.

2) Are you kidding? I've got way more than I can ever watch even keeping it legal. For my personal situation, DVD rips have a disadvantage over legit DVDs and streams.


What I don't get is why people care so much about things being legal and hating all illegal activities.
Dec 24, 2008 7:34 PM

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What I don't get is why people care so much about things being legal and hating all illegal activities.


Because they're illegal. Duh.
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Dec 24, 2008 7:39 PM

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CCZilla said:
What I don't get is why people care so much about things being legal and hating all illegal activities.


Because they're illegal. Duh.


lol preconventional morality
Dec 24, 2008 7:43 PM
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Plate said:
CCZilla said:
What I don't get is why people care so much about things being legal and hating all illegal activities.


Because they're illegal. Duh.


lol preconventional morality
Excuse us for trying to be law-abiding civilians.

Dec 24, 2008 7:45 PM

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Plate said:
CCZilla said:
What I don't get is why people care so much about things being legal and hating all illegal activities.


Because they're illegal. Duh.


lol preconventional morality


Fine. Guess I should be more specific. It's illegal because the companies have money stolen from them when people like Baby_Naruto watch DVD rips of English dubs and never bother to buy the series. Therefore, that company loses profits. Anime companies in Japan do look at American sales because they get money from American sales. If a show performs poorly on one or both coasts, then that company will possibly lose profits off the title as well due to the persistence of selfish anime "fans" to not buy any product pertaining to that show and go for the illegal alternative instead.

And Americans have no excuse since we have it the easiest out of the rest of the world in terms of pricing and availability.
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CCZilla said:
Fine. Guess I should be more specific. It's illegal because the companies have money stolen from them when people like Baby_Naruto watch DVD rips of English dubs and never bother to buy the series. Therefore, that company loses profits. Anime companies in Japan do look at American sales because they get money from American sales. If a show performs poorly on one or both coasts, then that company will possibly lose profits off the title as well due to the persistence of selfish anime "fans" to not buy any product pertaining to that show and go for the illegal alternative instead.

And Americans have no excuse since we have it the easiest out of the rest of the world in terms of pricing and availability.

This. Just, yes.

I don't think any of us are trying to say ALL ILLEGAL THINGS ARE BAD PERIOD LOLZ, but those of us who buy (or legally view otherwise) like to support the people who make anime possible. Seems reasonable to me.

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Dec 24, 2008 10:13 PM

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They got Nabari no Ou for this Christmas day...as expected...^_^.

Dec 24, 2008 10:47 PM

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leonmcnicol said:
They got Nabari no Ou for this Christmas day...as expected...^_^.
It did so poorly in Japan I wonder why they'd want it...then again, what they already licensed doesn't make much sense either.

Another day safe.
Dec 24, 2008 10:49 PM

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windy said:
leonmcnicol said:
They got Nabari no Ou for this Christmas day...as expected...^_^.
It did so poorly in Japan I wonder why they'd want it...then again, what they already licensed doesn't make much sense either.

Another day safe.


True. Sales were indeed bad and fandom is less compared to other Fall series that aired. >_<

Dec 24, 2008 11:03 PM

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This is awesome! I hope that Soul Eater is one of them.
Dec 25, 2008 12:22 AM

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leonmcnicol said:
windy said:
leonmcnicol said:
They got Nabari no Ou for this Christmas day...as expected...^_^.
It did so poorly in Japan I wonder why they'd want it...then again, what they already licensed doesn't make much sense either.

Another day safe.


True. Sales were indeed bad and fandom is less compared to other Fall series that aired. >_<


Poor sales in Japan means Funimation can take a firm stand against the Japanese licenser and beat down the price of licensing fee.
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Dec 25, 2008 1:03 AM

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Nabari is number 4. >_> Well at least its something new >_>.. Damn it

Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei
Sumomomo Momomo
Seto no Hanayome

It feels like there so far away V_V..

Damn an then there is still soul eater >_>

And what do you people mean by Safe?????????????????????????
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Dec 25, 2008 1:23 AM

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Mario1-7 said:
And what do you people mean by Safe?????????????????????????
What I didn't want to get licensed, didn't get licensed. AKA, the series is safe.
Dec 25, 2008 2:05 AM

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lets see here so far:

  1. 12/22- ikkitousen
  2. 12/23- Gad Guard
  3. 12/24- vandred
  4. 12/25- nabari no ou
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windy said:
Mario1-7 said:
And what do you people mean by Safe?????????????????????????
What I didn't want to get licensed, didn't get licensed. AKA, the series is safe.


I see.. Well Soul eater will be coming you won't be safe for long.
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Dec 25, 2008 6:25 AM

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windy said:
leonmcnicol said:
They got Nabari no Ou for this Christmas day...as expected...^_^.
It did so poorly in Japan I wonder why they'd want it...then again, what they already licensed doesn't make much sense either.

It does have ninjas and (from what I've seen) a decent mix of action and drama, so it probably seemed marketable.

Something I actually am interested in watching, finally~ good job, Funi!

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Dec 25, 2008 7:09 AM
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Anomalous said:
windy said:
leonmcnicol said:
They got Nabari no Ou for this Christmas day...as expected...^_^.
It did so poorly in Japan I wonder why they'd want it...then again, what they already licensed doesn't make much sense either.

It does have ninjas and (from what I've seen) a decent mix of action and drama, so it probably seemed marketable.

Something I actually am interested in watching, finally~ good job, Funi!
They will run into the inevitable Naruto comparison and fail...HARD.

Dec 25, 2008 7:26 AM

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Leon-Gun said:
Anomalous said:
windy said:
leonmcnicol said:
They got Nabari no Ou for this Christmas day...as expected...^_^.
It did so poorly in Japan I wonder why they'd want it...then again, what they already licensed doesn't make much sense either.

It does have ninjas and (from what I've seen) a decent mix of action and drama, so it probably seemed marketable.

Something I actually am interested in watching, finally~ good job, Funi!
They will run into the inevitable Naruto comparison and fail...HARD.


Maybe but they are releasing it in 2, 13 episode box sets so they won't haf to deal with it for long.
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Dec 25, 2008 7:44 AM
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I have a strange feeling that Hitman Reborn will be licensed since the c&ds for the show went out the same time as the ones for Nabari no ou
Dec 25, 2008 8:26 AM

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dtshyk said:
windy said:
leonmcnicol said:
They got Nabari no Ou for this Christmas day...as expected...^_^.
It did so poorly in Japan I wonder why they'd want it...then again, what they already licensed doesn't make much sense either.

Another day safe.


Poor sales in Japan means Funimation can take a firm stand against the Japanese licenser and beat down the price of licensing fee.


Plus, poor sales in Japan doesn't necessarily equate to poor sales in the US. If the show did come cheap enough Funimation could very well turn a profit on it.

...even a saint needs a soldier to do the dirty work.
Dec 25, 2008 9:16 AM

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I'm sure a homosexual version of Naruto will sellout fast in America. It wouldn't sell as well as a NarutoxSasuke anime but it should make all the yaoi fangirls happy.

I dropped it after only a few episodes. The gayness got to me. If only it had been about lesbian ninjas...
Dec 25, 2008 10:47 AM

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I might buy the box sets. 8D
Nabari no Ou might be the one i like from their new show a agogo. When the dub sucks, i always go to settings and change it into jap w/ eng subtitles.

This proves it that Soul Eater is on New Years Eve. Dx
oh... so it wasn't Oh Edo Rocket..... it was Nabari no Ou.

Dec 25, 2008 10:47 AM

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Aionic said:
I'm sure a homosexual version of Naruto will sellout fast in America. It wouldn't sell as well as a NarutoxSasuke anime but it should make all the yaoi fangirls happy.

I dropped it after only a few episodes. The gayness got to me. If only it had been about lesbian ninjas...


Wait there are Gay Ninjas >_> EPIC FAILURE!!!!!!!!!
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Dec 25, 2008 10:49 AM

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Mario1-7 said:
Aionic said:
I'm sure a homosexual version of Naruto will sellout fast in America. It wouldn't sell as well as a NarutoxSasuke anime but it should make all the yaoi fangirls happy.

I dropped it after only a few episodes. The gayness got to me. If only it had been about lesbian ninjas...


Wait there are Gay Ninjas >_> EPIC FAILURE!!!!!!!!!


It's fake shounen ai. BD like Kuroshitsuji. The manga/anime don't have shounen ai or yaoi in their genres.
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Maora said:
Mario1-7 said:
Aionic said:
I'm sure a homosexual version of Naruto will sellout fast in America. It wouldn't sell as well as a NarutoxSasuke anime but it should make all the yaoi fangirls happy.

I dropped it after only a few episodes. The gayness got to me. If only it had been about lesbian ninjas...


Wait there are Gay Ninjas >_> EPIC FAILURE!!!!!!!!!


It's fake shounen ai. BD like Kuroshitsuji. The manga/anime don't have shounen ai or yaoi in their genres.


I see. then its like Ouran High School host club ???
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Dec 25, 2008 11:29 AM

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Mario1-7 said:
Maora said:
Mario1-7 said:
Aionic said:
I'm sure a homosexual version of Naruto will sellout fast in America. It wouldn't sell as well as a NarutoxSasuke anime but it should make all the yaoi fangirls happy.

I dropped it after only a few episodes. The gayness got to me. If only it had been about lesbian ninjas...


Wait there are Gay Ninjas >_> EPIC FAILURE!!!!!!!!!


It's fake shounen ai. BD like Kuroshitsuji. The manga/anime don't have shounen ai or yaoi in their genres.


I see. then its like Ouran High School host club ???

L-O-L
You people are funny, thanks for making me laugh and no it's not like Ouran.
Dec 25, 2008 11:32 AM

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Well that list sucks ass.
Dec 25, 2008 11:43 AM

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CCZilla said:
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What I don't get is why people care so much about things being legal and hating all illegal activities.


Because they're illegal. Duh.


lol preconventional morality


Fine. Guess I should be more specific. It's illegal because the companies have money stolen from them when people like Baby_Naruto watch DVD rips of English dubs and never bother to buy the series. Therefore, that company loses profits. Anime companies in Japan do look at American sales because they get money from American sales. If a show performs poorly on one or both coasts, then that company will possibly lose profits off the title as well due to the persistence of selfish anime "fans" to not buy any product pertaining to that show and go for the illegal alternative instead.

And Americans have no excuse since we have it the easiest out of the rest of the world in terms of pricing and availability.


I'm done arguing, since no one has publicly sided with me and my opinions on this matter.

*ends off-topic convo and moves on*
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Momo-Hime said:
Mario1-7 said:
Maora said:
Mario1-7 said:
Aionic said:
I'm sure a homosexual version of Naruto will sellout fast in America. It wouldn't sell as well as a NarutoxSasuke anime but it should make all the yaoi fangirls happy.

I dropped it after only a few episodes. The gayness got to me. If only it had been about lesbian ninjas...


Wait there are Gay Ninjas >_> EPIC FAILURE!!!!!!!!!


It's fake shounen ai. BD like Kuroshitsuji. The manga/anime don't have shounen ai or yaoi in their genres.


I see. then its like Ouran High School host club ???

L-O-L
You people are funny, thanks for making me laugh and no it's not like Ouran.


you can never compare Shounen and Shoujo together. :P
It's nothing like Naruto, though it got the most rec. in MAL. >.>
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Maora said:

you can never compare Shounen and Shoujo together. :P
It's nothing like Naruto, though it got the most rec. in MAL. >.>
All Ninja anime/manga = Naruto apparently.

Maora said:
Mario1-7 said:
Aionic said:
I'm sure a homosexual version of Naruto will sellout fast in America. It wouldn't sell as well as a NarutoxSasuke anime but it should make all the yaoi fangirls happy.

I dropped it after only a few episodes. The gayness got to me. If only it had been about lesbian ninjas...


Wait there are Gay Ninjas >_> EPIC FAILURE!!!!!!!!!


It's fake shounen ai. BD like Kuroshitsuji. The manga/anime don't have shounen ai or yaoi in their genres.
And Kuroshitsuji is actually pretty good so far.

I think I'm fairly happy about having access to Nabari no Ou at last. I liked the anime (mainly because I was the only one not jaded by the "grrr, manga changes !!!" schtick) and while I could easily go for the subs, there are a number of episodes no one subbed for some reason. It's stupid really, since it seems Anime One subbed up to 15 or so, and someone else subbed from 20 onwards, complete ignoring the non-translated episodes (kinda like the stupid Chihiro not doing the episode between the last Deculture release of Zettai Karen Children and their first release of ZKC).

So, it seems like a sure buy for me.

Dec 25, 2008 5:43 PM

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Mario1-7 said:
Maora said:
Mario1-7 said:
Aionic said:
I'm sure a homosexual version of Naruto will sellout fast in America. It wouldn't sell as well as a NarutoxSasuke anime but it should make all the yaoi fangirls happy.

I dropped it after only a few episodes. The gayness got to me. If only it had been about lesbian ninjas...


Wait there are Gay Ninjas >_> EPIC FAILURE!!!!!!!!!


It's fake shounen ai. BD like Kuroshitsuji. The manga/anime don't have shounen ai or yaoi in their genres.


I see. then its like Ouran High School host club ???

Not really.

Ouran parodies pretty much every shoujo trope out there, yaoi included.

Nabari has some yaoi subtext; from what I've seen, it's one of those "enough to make the fangirls go wild, not enough to bother anyone else" series.

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Dec 25, 2008 8:48 PM

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What time does FUNimation update?
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Dec 25, 2008 9:42 PM

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Usually 1am CST.. or in 14 minutes.

Something should pop up in about 14 minutes, if not they'll update tomorrow around 11am CST when they might actually be in the office.
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I see. I hope the next one is one of my famous 3.. if they just do 1 ill be happy if 2 ill pass out if all 3 ill buy a plan ticket go where ever FUNimation is located (Texas i think) and and run around there building Naked screaming ZETSUBOUSHITA!!!!!!!!..

Then probably get arrested and be out of Jail for the for DVD to be released. ^_^

Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei
Sumomomo Momomo <<<<<<<<<< Mainly this
Seto no Hanayome

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JLS said:
Usually 1am CST.. or in 14 minutes.

Something should pop up in about 14 minutes, if not they'll update tomorrow around 11am CST when they might actually be in the office.
1 am is in an hour, it's 12 am right now CST
Dec 25, 2008 9:55 PM

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Last Exile. >.>

nice.
Dec 25, 2008 9:55 PM

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Maora said:
Last Exile. >.>
safe again!!!!11
Dec 25, 2008 9:57 PM

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lol, they can wake me when they announce something worth paying attention to.
Dec 25, 2008 9:58 PM

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Yep~ W00t! Still safe!!!! ^_^

12-22 Ikkitousen
12-23 Gad Guard
12-24 Vandread
12-25 Nabari no Ou
12-25 LAST EXILE

Dec 25, 2008 9:59 PM

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windy said:
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Last Exile. >.>
safe again!!!!11


Damn it >_>

anyway you won't be safe for long.. just wait. and WTF is last Exile a Gonzo/Geneon hit Combo of course there gonna get that. Damn they could at least get Shana Season 2 >_> FUNimation is Greatly pissing me off
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Dec 25, 2008 10:00 PM

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I'll guess i'll wait so that all these new titles are in Funimation.com/video.
Dec 25, 2008 10:01 PM

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Mario1-7 said:
windy said:
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Last Exile. >.>
safe again!!!!11


Damn it >_>

anyway you won't be safe for long.. just wait.


Yeah, i have a bad feeling the last 5 titles might shock us...:P

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leonmcnicol said:
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Last Exile. >.>
safe again!!!!11


Damn it >_>

anyway you won't be safe for long.. just wait.


Yeah, i have a bad feeling the last 5 titles might shock us...:P

* Soul Eater
* Evangelion
* Gankutsuou: the Count of Monte Cristo

plus 2 unknown ones that they don't want to tell us. >.>

Windy wont be safe for long. 8D
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leonmcnicol said:
Mario1-7 said:
windy said:
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Last Exile. >.>
safe again!!!!11


Damn it >_>

anyway you won't be safe for long.. just wait.


Yeah, i have a bad feeling the last 5 titles might shock us...:P


And this Safe thing? What anime do you want them not to License?
Soul eater and That other Stupid anime with the Gundams um Evangelion 1.0 or something like that Are already coming FACT!!!.. Damn Seto, Momoko, Mr. Despair looks like 2010 might be the year. T_T Damn Gankutsuou is a Gonzo/Geneon Hit combo as well. DAMN IT!!!
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well at least some of the anime they're licensing sound interesting
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So... basically its safe to say half or even more of Funimation's 10 new licenses will likely be past GONZO/Geneon titles and possibly whatever else done by GONZO since Funi seems to have a big crush on them.

Soul eater and That other Stupid anime with the Gundams um Evangelion 1.0 or something like that Are already coming FACT!!!.

If I remember clearly, Soul Eater has yet to be licensed, only the C&D's have been distributed to fansubbers, hence why so many people are listing it as a likely title to be announced.
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5 more tries to get it right Funi.-_-

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Another Geneon rescue, eh? Somehow I'm not surprised. I've been meaning to get Last Exile from the library for some time now; looks like if I like it then I'll be able to buy it as well.

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