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May 12, 2013 12:21 PM
#101
Stark700 said: Whoever this guy is he should be "hired" for some other light and visual novels.Toaru Majutsu no Index: NT Volume7 Prologue is out! EDIT:Well Touma is totally fucked now.... |
AngelAcceleratorMay 12, 2013 12:33 PM
Accelerator: "People have done this much to you. Sorry for taking so long...to save you". "You’re really pitiful. Listen, I’ll tell you one thing. That day, my brain was damaged alright. Looking at me now, you should know, right? ...But then again, just because I’ve gotten weaker, it doesn’t mean that you got stronger, RIGHT?" “A Villain that’s no better than a piece of shit.” "This is not a negotiation, a suggestion, a deal, an entreaty, an agreement, a compromise, or a capitulation. It’s my triumphant return, you fuckers." |
May 12, 2013 6:27 PM
#102
It's js06. He's a translation god. No other person is as crazy fast as this guy. And unfortunately, he's only interested in anything related to the Indexverse. Though it's more like he's interested in anything written by Kamachi as he also translated his other works like A Simple Survey, The Circumstances Leading to Waltraute's Marriage, Heavy Object and The Intellectual Village of Zashiki Warashi. And what a great start to NT7. Need more! I wonder how fast he'll be this time. |
May 12, 2013 8:43 PM
#103
I say we move this to the New Testament forums. I already started a discussion thread there for this volume. |
(Also known on other places as Hiss13) All hail the adorable chess master! |
May 13, 2013 5:31 AM
#104
CreationBreaker said: I say we move this to the New Testament forums. I already started a discussion thread there for this volume. Lolz to all of you. I've read through section 6 (well still need to read 6. He topped everything from before!). |
May 13, 2013 9:31 PM
#105
Toaru Majutsu no Index: NT Volume 7 chapter 1 is out now :3 |
May 13, 2013 10:39 PM
#106
Stark700 said: Toaru Majutsu no Index: NT Volume 7 chapter 1 is out now :3 You mean volume 7 chapter 2 section 1 :) |
May 14, 2013 12:13 AM
#107
what is most brutal arc in toaru universe? |
May 14, 2013 3:06 AM
#108
HongISfirE said: what is most brutal arc in toaru universe? Baggage City arc. From events we never saw fully or at all?Level 6 Shift,Dark May project.Then again the sisters knew their fate while everyone else was really unlucky. |
ssjokgMay 14, 2013 3:10 AM
May 14, 2013 8:28 AM
#109
ssjokg said: HongISfirE said: what is most brutal arc in toaru universe? Baggage City arc. From events we never saw fully or at all?Level 6 Shift,Dark May project.Then again the sisters knew their fate while everyone else was really unlucky. ssjokg said: HongISfirE said: what is most brutal arc in toaru universe? Baggage City arc. From events we never saw fully or at all?Level 6 Shift,Dark May project.Then again the sisters knew their fate while everyone else was really unlucky. So from sister arc until baggage city, touma never failed to save "everyone"? |
May 14, 2013 9:21 AM
#110
HongISfirE said: ssjokg said: HongISfirE said: what is most brutal arc in toaru universe? Baggage City arc. From events we never saw fully or at all?Level 6 Shift,Dark May project.Then again the sisters knew their fate while everyone else was really unlucky. ssjokg said: HongISfirE said: what is most brutal arc in toaru universe? Baggage City arc. From events we never saw fully or at all?Level 6 Shift,Dark May project.Then again the sisters knew their fate while everyone else was really unlucky. So from sister arc until baggage city, touma never failed to save "everyone"? Yes. There are also the arcs where he doesnt appear at all. |
ssjokgMay 14, 2013 9:37 AM
May 14, 2013 9:46 AM
#111
Another question to LN readers, who is the strongest Magician in the entire franchise so far? |
May 14, 2013 10:22 AM
#112
Stark700 said: The Magic God, One-Eyed Othinus and He Who Should Have Been a Maigic God, Ollerus.Another question to LN readers, who is the strongest Magician in the entire franchise so far? Othinus is the main antagonist at the moment while Ollerus was an ally of Touma. While Othinus is the Magic God and as such the strongest ,as a Magic God he has a 50/50 chance of succeeding.If Ollerus takes advantage of that he can win against Othinus. Aside from these two it gets difficult.We have Laura Stuart(from Index II)the leader of Necessarius,Leivinia Birdway leader of the Dawn-colored Sunlight cabal,Aleister Crowley,Fiamma of the Right and the English Queen Elizard(maybe). |
May 14, 2013 2:37 PM
#113
ssjokg said: Stark700 said: The Magic God, One-Eyed Othinus and He Who Should Have Been a Maigic God, Ollerus.Another question to LN readers, who is the strongest Magician in the entire franchise so far? Othinus is the main antagonist at the moment while Ollerus was an ally of Touma. While Othinus is the Magic God and as such the strongest ,as a Magic God he has a 50/50 chance of succeeding.If Ollerus takes advantage of that he can win against Othinus. Aside from these two it gets difficult.We have Laura Stuart(from Index II)the leader of Necessarius,Leivinia Birdway leader of the Dawn-colored Sunlight cabal,Aleister Crowley,Fiamma of the Right and the English Queen Elizard(maybe). What about Index? Almighty Thor? even though he admits Ollerus would crush crush him for now Aiwass (because it sounds like he was originally contacted through magic even if it is by science now... maybe he is similar to what Touma is... beyond both magic and science. And he always comes back in another form if he is destroyed. Accelerator also should be included. He CAN officially use magic right? Especially when he is in white winged mode. It also doesn't do that much damage to him anymore. That makes him pretty boss. He can do magic if necessary and use his other powers: that is pretty much OP, even though Aiwass would still probably crush him. The inside of Touma's hand is probably #1 whatever it is. Even though Othinus crushes it easily, I believe that what is inside Touma's hand has not been fully seen or has not yet fully manifested. This is because Aleister Crowley still has uses for it... Styl Magnus... wait he's a weakling :) Don't read last spoiler unless you're at least in chapter 2 of volume 7. What about that magician from volume 7? Wait... a minute... oh damn that Tsuchimikado! |
May 14, 2013 2:56 PM
#114
dniv said: ssjokg said: Stark700 said: The Magic God, One-Eyed Othinus and He Who Should Have Been a Maigic God, Ollerus.Another question to LN readers, who is the strongest Magician in the entire franchise so far? Othinus is the main antagonist at the moment while Ollerus was an ally of Touma. While Othinus is the Magic God and as such the strongest ,as a Magic God he has a 50/50 chance of succeeding.If Ollerus takes advantage of that he can win against Othinus. Aside from these two it gets difficult.We have Laura Stuart(from Index II)the leader of Necessarius,Leivinia Birdway leader of the Dawn-colored Sunlight cabal,Aleister Crowley,Fiamma of the Right and the English Queen Elizard(maybe). What about Index? Almighty Thor? even though he admits Ollerus would crush crush him for now Aiwass (because it sounds like he was originally contacted through magic even if it is by science now... maybe he is similar to what Touma is... beyond both magic and science. And he always comes back in another form if he is destroyed. Accelerator also should be included. He CAN officially use magic right? Especially when he is in white winged mode. It also doesn't do that much damage to him anymore. That makes him pretty boss. He can do magic if necessary and use his other powers: that is pretty much OP, even though Aiwass would still probably crush him. The inside of Touma's hand is probably #1 whatever it is. Even though Othinus crushes it easily, I believe that what is inside Touma's hand has not been fully seen or has not yet fully manifested. This is because Aleister Crowley still has uses for it... Styl Magnus... wait he's a weakling :) Don't read last spoiler unless you're at least in chapter 2 of volume 7. What about that magician from volume 7? Wait... a minute... oh damn that Tsuchimikado! Index cant do much since she cant use magic.Even if she uses her tricks she wont defeat overpowered magicians.She was barely able to escape Stiyl and Kanzaki and they were "playing" with her Except from Elizard who I am not entirely sure,everyone else is able to beat him.They have shown at least the potential in both power and mentality.The only thing Thor has is raw power.I am sure if Laura drops the cutesy act she would beat him if they ever met. Aiwass isnt a magician.Whatever he is he definitely is above magicians and Angels. We only saw him use it once and Angel Can the invisible thing even be considered a magician? no comment We didnt see him do anything(magic related)new.I have read up to part 3. |
ssjokgMay 14, 2013 3:00 PM
May 14, 2013 3:51 PM
#115
ssjokg said: dniv said: ssjokg said: Stark700 said: The Magic God, One-Eyed Othinus and He Who Should Have Been a Maigic God, Ollerus.Another question to LN readers, who is the strongest Magician in the entire franchise so far? Othinus is the main antagonist at the moment while Ollerus was an ally of Touma. While Othinus is the Magic God and as such the strongest ,as a Magic God he has a 50/50 chance of succeeding.If Ollerus takes advantage of that he can win against Othinus. Aside from these two it gets difficult.We have Laura Stuart(from Index II)the leader of Necessarius,Leivinia Birdway leader of the Dawn-colored Sunlight cabal,Aleister Crowley,Fiamma of the Right and the English Queen Elizard(maybe). What about Index? Almighty Thor? even though he admits Ollerus would crush crush him for now Aiwass (because it sounds like he was originally contacted through magic even if it is by science now... maybe he is similar to what Touma is... beyond both magic and science. And he always comes back in another form if he is destroyed. Accelerator also should be included. He CAN officially use magic right? Especially when he is in white winged mode. It also doesn't do that much damage to him anymore. That makes him pretty boss. He can do magic if necessary and use his other powers: that is pretty much OP, even though Aiwass would still probably crush him. The inside of Touma's hand is probably #1 whatever it is. Even though Othinus crushes it easily, I believe that what is inside Touma's hand has not been fully seen or has not yet fully manifested. This is because Aleister Crowley still has uses for it... Styl Magnus... wait he's a weakling :) Don't read last spoiler unless you're at least in chapter 2 of volume 7. What about that magician from volume 7? Wait... a minute... oh damn that Tsuchimikado! Index cant do much since she cant use magic.Even if she uses her tricks she wont defeat overpowered magicians.She was barely able to escape Stiyl and Kanzaki and they were "playing" with her Except from Elizard who I am not entirely sure,everyone else is able to beat him.They have shown at least the potential in both power and mentality.The only thing Thor has is raw power.I am sure if Laura drops the cutesy act she would beat him if they ever met. Aiwass isnt a magician.Whatever he is he definitely is above magicians and Angels. We only saw him use it once and Angel Can the invisible thing even be considered a magician? no comment We didnt see him do anything(magic related)new.I have read up to part 3. I meant that the magician thingy which could have destroyed the minds of people within 5 kilometers was just bull shit lolz made up by Tsuchimikado. IF something like what he said existed, that would be pretty fricking broken and messed up. My point is that he is a liar pants on fire. lolz As to Index: I'm talking about when there's a remote. She's super powerful... I mean she was Fiamma's puppet in end of series 1 because she's so fricking powerful with all of the Grimories that she has in her mind... right? I thought she was at least as powerful as Misaka Mikoto if not more powerful than her after seeing what she could do when she was controlled. With one flicker of her red wings she knocks Style Magnus out. That's saying something. I mean she has an awakening just like Accelerator and Kakine. That makes her one of the most powerful characters in the series. Plus she is almost a magic god because of how much she knows and when she is in red-wing mode isn't she practically one of the strongest? Thor keeps on getting much much stronger. He is already stronger than Touma and he probably will keep on getting stronger. That is saying something And Thor (can destroy a country apparently easily by his own words) >Touma>Levinia>Mikoto (Thor shot himself too remember to make it even) I say that it's obviously related to a dragon somehow (probably) and the dragon is deeply related to magic as we have seen (Index's memory spell hint hint) and other things that are super powerful with magic. So I think... it is holding some magical being that is being sealed... maybe the devil? metaphorically?. Something like this is probably true... but still just speculation. Maybe it is anti-magic? Because it negates magic and science?... Style is cool just because I want him to end up with Index and leave Touma free that's it. I just find him pretty annoying sometimes. He is way too rude to Touma. And about Accelerator: he remembers Index's song so he can presumably use it again and I won't say anything else until NT 7 is finished... however, I don't remember even if he makes an appearance or not in it, so it doesn't even matter but whatever... The difference between the two is that Accelerator can use magic and personal reality which are distinct things. Magic and science are opposites. Finally, Aiwass is considered to be the holy guardian angel. Angels all use magic and he taught Aiwass about the book of law which opened up the new aeon and let him define a new realm which opened new grounds in magic rituals. What I mean is that Aiwass knows and can use magic. I'm not sure if that makes him a "magician.' But he is described as the holy guardian angel that is above the rest of the angels in the bible. I'm not sure if he's god or something like that... But, he definitely knows how to use magic and is therefore part of the magic side. He might also be a part of the science side as well because he can use esper powers after transformation (possible but speculation) so he would be above both in this case. Last thing: Misaki is so so so dirty... lolz it's hilarious. Milk in the hair :) |
May 15, 2013 2:41 AM
#116
While Pen's Mode is strong it "isnt Index".She literally becomes a weapon for the one with the device. Why do you use Touma for a comparison between magicians?Levinia wasnt even serious against Touma.Even when not serious Levinia's power is at Saint level.And Thor with Silvia were at a draw and while he was using Mjolnir and she wasnt going all out. Related to magic or something more divine yes but not a "magician". Well he IS jeallous.And he is 14. Even if he uses the song and even if his mental state is like it was when he saved her he still cant use magic.He just power ups.Even if he is capable to somewhat stop a Telesma attack he cant do anything else.And magic has many forms. Aiwass definitely isnt a magician.Archangel,god,higher being,Top of Raildex's chars yeah but he isnt a magician.If we call magicians all those that have a connection with the magic world the Gemstones like Gunha should also be counted.I mean Ollerus knew more about his powers and he is supposed to belong to the "science" side. And thanks for the Tsuchimikado spoiler.For now I was still at Touma's speculation..... NT7: I am still at part 3 of chap2....I have seen many chars die(Fate series,SnK,Tsukihime and others) by why did Maika's death shock me so much?Maybe because I never thought that someone would be foolish enough to mess with Tsuchimikado?...Dont spoil anything I just share my thoughts XD |
ssjokgMay 15, 2013 2:49 AM
May 15, 2013 3:46 AM
#117
ssjokg said: While Pen's Mode is strong it "isnt Index".She literally becomes a weapon for the one with the device. Why do you use Touma for a comparison between magicians?Levinia wasnt even serious against Touma.Even when not serious Levinia's power is at Saint level.And Thor with Silvia were at a draw and while he was using Mjolnir and she wasnt going all out. Related to magic or something more divine yes but not a "magician". Well he IS jeallous.And he is 14. Even if he uses the song and even if his mental state is like it was when he saved her he still cant use magic.He just power ups.Even if he is capable to somewhat stop a Telesma attack he cant do anything else.And magic has many forms. Aiwass definitely isnt a magician.Archangel,god,higher being,Top of Raildex's chars yeah but he isnt a magician.If we call magicians all those that have a connection with the magic world the Gemstones like Gunha should also be counted.I mean Ollerus knew more about his powers and he is supposed to belong to the "science" side. And thanks for the Tsuchimikado spoiler.For now I was still at Touma's speculation..... NT7: I am still at part 3 of chap2....I have seen many chars die(Fate series,SnK,Tsukihime and others) by why did Maika's death shock me so much?Maybe because I never thought that someone would be foolish enough to mess with Tsuchimikado?...Dont spoil anything I just share my thoughts XD I certainly agree lol. It's been updated to part 6, you should read it. BTW: sorry about that. I thought it was kind of made clear in that last scene with Misaki and Touma and the T.V., but I apologize :(. I will not spoil anything else. BTW you didn't respond to Misaki being perverted, lolz. Do you agree? |
May 15, 2013 4:17 AM
#118
dniv said: ssjokg said: While Pen's Mode is strong it "isnt Index".She literally becomes a weapon for the one with the device. Why do you use Touma for a comparison between magicians?Levinia wasnt even serious against Touma.Even when not serious Levinia's power is at Saint level.And Thor with Silvia were at a draw and while he was using Mjolnir and she wasnt going all out. Related to magic or something more divine yes but not a "magician". Well he IS jeallous.And he is 14. Even if he uses the song and even if his mental state is like it was when he saved her he still cant use magic.He just power ups.Even if he is capable to somewhat stop a Telesma attack he cant do anything else.And magic has many forms. Aiwass definitely isnt a magician.Archangel,god,higher being,Top of Raildex's chars yeah but he isnt a magician.If we call magicians all those that have a connection with the magic world the Gemstones like Gunha should also be counted.I mean Ollerus knew more about his powers and he is supposed to belong to the "science" side. And thanks for the Tsuchimikado spoiler.For now I was still at Touma's speculation..... NT7: I am still at part 3 of chap2....I have seen many chars die(Fate series,SnK,Tsukihime and others) by why did Maika's death shock me so much?Maybe because I never thought that someone would be foolish enough to mess with Tsuchimikado?...Dont spoil anything I just share my thoughts XD I certainly agree lol. It's been updated to part 6, you should read it. BTW: sorry about that. I thought it was kind of made clear in that last scene with Misaki and Touma and the T.V., but I apologize :(. I will not spoil anything else. BTW you didn't respond to Misaki being perverted, lolz. Do you agree? I had two theories:1:It is a lie, 2:Someone fucked up with Tsuchimikado for an unrelated event. It's not like we havent seen super OP hax powers before....Fiama just blows the charts with his abilities. Totally unrelated but auto correct shows Tsuchimikado as Sadomasochism....hm... Any-supposedly middle school- girl who wears such gloves and thighhighs must be one. |
May 15, 2013 7:06 AM
#119
In regards to the NT7 spoiler I'm pretty positive Maika isn't dead. |
May 15, 2013 7:44 AM
#120
Amarrez said: What I try to convince myself that happened:In regards to the NT7 spoiler I'm pretty positive Maika isn't dead. 1:Tsuchimikado is in a auto suggestion mode.The whole thing is a stage for him to go(all out) after his enemy. 2:GROUP found out, mainly Etzali who used his magic to create a corpse(I dont know if it is possible to work on other people) and now is hiding Maika to let Tsuchi go on a rampage. Really I find it weird that the first character(excluding sisters) to be killed(until proven otherwise)is one that never fought or has ANY connection to ANY dark side. |
May 15, 2013 6:54 PM
#121
ssjokg said: Any-supposedly middle school- girl who wears such gloves and thighhighs must be one. Lol, lol, lol. I know right. Lol, Misaki's a lot more fun to see interacting with Touma than Mikoto is (well so far anyway). God, she's hillarious. Kamachi should keep it up with the great writing. I'm liking chapter 2 as well. |
May 15, 2013 6:56 PM
#122
belatkuro said: dniv said: I don't think so. Misaki said that she wasn't referring to that meeting in Daihasesai, which means it's definitely before that. Which means yep Or... something even worse. This is probably what Touma helped her with pre-amnesia Touma meeting and helping Misaki, just like with Misaka. Oh god, I'm suddenly reminded of that part in F/SN with Sakura and Rin both watching Shirou in the grounds. Which in turn made them interested in Shirou, or in this case, Touma. Well, kind of the same with both girls sharing the same experience with the MC and the MC not remembering about it but you get the picture. I mean he helped her with it before Daihasesai. Now Gensei is after Mikoto's and Shokuhou's clone. I'm saying Shokuhou already got over her problem, but her clone is still alive? Maybe... not sure anymore though. |
May 16, 2013 2:48 AM
#123
ssjokg said: Amarrez said: What I try to convince myself that happened:In regards to the NT7 spoiler I'm pretty positive Maika isn't dead. 1:Tsuchimikado is in a auto suggestion mode.The whole thing is a stage for him to go(all out) after his enemy. 2:GROUP found out, mainly Etzali who used his magic to create a corpse(I dont know if it is possible to work on other people) and now is hiding Maika to let Tsuchi go on a rampage. Really I find it weird that the first character(excluding sisters) to be killed(until proven otherwise)is one that never fought or has ANY connection to ANY dark side. Wait, what? Loads of people have died in Index. Including characters I quite enjoy(ed). |
May 16, 2013 3:02 AM
#124
Amarrez said: ssjokg said: Amarrez said: What I try to convince myself that happened:In regards to the NT7 spoiler I'm pretty positive Maika isn't dead. 1:Tsuchimikado is in a auto suggestion mode.The whole thing is a stage for him to go(all out) after his enemy. 2:GROUP found out, mainly Etzali who used his magic to create a corpse(I dont know if it is possible to work on other people) and now is hiding Maika to let Tsuchi go on a rampage. Really I find it weird that the first character(excluding sisters) to be killed(until proven otherwise)is one that never fought or has ANY connection to ANY dark side. Wait, what? Loads of people have died in Index. Including characters I quite enjoy(ed). I mean from those that where super side chars or comic reliefs.I dont think anybody cares about. the directors of Baggage city,Terra,Soldier A,Soldier B etc,Kiharas(excluding Kagun)You could say that Fre Da's death was shocking but for me the only thing that shocked me was Mugino's action not Freda's death,and they were part of the dark side. Now killing Saten,Maika,Haruue(since Railgun loves her so much),Fukiyose,Aogami etc seems really weird to me. |
May 16, 2013 4:11 AM
#125
ssjokg said: Amarrez said: ssjokg said: Amarrez said: What I try to convince myself that happened:In regards to the NT7 spoiler I'm pretty positive Maika isn't dead. 1:Tsuchimikado is in a auto suggestion mode.The whole thing is a stage for him to go(all out) after his enemy. 2:GROUP found out, mainly Etzali who used his magic to create a corpse(I dont know if it is possible to work on other people) and now is hiding Maika to let Tsuchi go on a rampage. Really I find it weird that the first character(excluding sisters) to be killed(until proven otherwise)is one that never fought or has ANY connection to ANY dark side. Wait, what? Loads of people have died in Index. Including characters I quite enjoy(ed). I mean from those that where super side chars or comic reliefs.I dont think anybody cares about. the directors of Baggage city,Terra,Soldier A,Soldier B etc,Kiharas(excluding Kagun)You could say that Fre Da's death was shocking but for me the only thing that shocked me was Mugino's action not Freda's death,and they were part of the dark side. Now killing Saten,Maika,Haruue(since Railgun loves her so much),Fukiyose,Aogami etc seems really weird to me. I liked Fre, but mostly because I had read Railgun before Index. If I hadn't, I wouldn't have cared. And I really, really don't think they're dead. I have it from a reliable source. |
May 16, 2013 5:36 AM
#126
Amarrez said: ssjokg said: Amarrez said: ssjokg said: Amarrez said: What I try to convince myself that happened:In regards to the NT7 spoiler I'm pretty positive Maika isn't dead. 1:Tsuchimikado is in a auto suggestion mode.The whole thing is a stage for him to go(all out) after his enemy. 2:GROUP found out, mainly Etzali who used his magic to create a corpse(I dont know if it is possible to work on other people) and now is hiding Maika to let Tsuchi go on a rampage. Really I find it weird that the first character(excluding sisters) to be killed(until proven otherwise)is one that never fought or has ANY connection to ANY dark side. Wait, what? Loads of people have died in Index. Including characters I quite enjoy(ed). I mean from those that where super side chars or comic reliefs.I dont think anybody cares about. the directors of Baggage city,Terra,Soldier A,Soldier B etc,Kiharas(excluding Kagun)You could say that Fre Da's death was shocking but for me the only thing that shocked me was Mugino's action not Freda's death,and they were part of the dark side. Now killing Saten,Maika,Haruue(since Railgun loves her so much),Fukiyose,Aogami etc seems really weird to me. I liked Fre, but mostly because I had read Railgun before Index. If I hadn't, I wouldn't have cared. And I really, really don't think they're dead. I have it from a reliable source. He didn't say they were dead. He meant that killing off a character like Maika is very weird because she has appeared kind of a lot. She has now appeared in both railgun franchise and the Index franchise and she is a pretty important character who comes up a lot/ is Tsuchimikado's little sister. He means that killing her off is like killing of Saten, Uihara, Harue... Heck, it's pretty much like killing Mikoto (JK) Mikoto is (slightly) more important (wink). |
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