Candor said: Mkayyy said: Candor said: "Flaming is the hostile and insulting interaction between Internet users."Why are all of you flaming Mikasa for not liking an arc? RandomPerson3, refer to your sig dude. >.> I don't think me or Random were being hostile towards Mikasa, we're just putting our views of the arc against his/hers. RandomPerson3 said: Maybe a bit less than flaming. When threads like that comes up something like this is inevitable though, it becomes reflexive :P, especially when it involves Mikasa, a die-hard OP-hater, IntroverTurtle, a die-hard OP fan, with some other members.Candor said: Why are all of you flaming Mikasa for not liking an arc or One Piece as a whole? RandomPerson3, refer to your sig dude. >.> Btw, The 2 Sabaody arcs were my favorites too. Damn keep forgetting I have this sig. Thanks for reminding me XD. I wasn't flaming him tho, or at least wasn't intending too :P. I'm sorry if I hurt his feelings. These threads are still amusing to read though, they never get old. Glad you're enjoying yourself XD. Will grab my popcorn when HxH comes up. |
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Pandarenboy said: Ok I got another question too. Wh..why this show has like 10 openings and endings? That gets old... and fast. One Piece has like 100 episodes more than Naruto and Naruto has 5x more Ops+eds? And maybe even better. Are they seriously being that cheap? Also about the Animation Quality. the fighting animations are pretty badly made despite the genre. It just gets more confusing the more I think about it. One Piece budget is pretty low since the very beginning. WSJ and Toei is putting all money in their pockets. |
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Han-yuu said: Bleach is missing in this thread. I'm a bit sad. That's because it's not worth mentioning |
Pandarenboy said: Ok I got another question too. Wh..why this show has like 10 openings and endings? That gets old... and fast. One Piece has like 100 episodes more than Naruto and Naruto has 5x more Ops+eds? And maybe even better. Are they seriously being that cheap? Also about the Animation Quality. the fighting animations are pretty badly made despite the genre. It just gets more confusing the more I think about it. Because they keep reusing We Are which is awesome. Also disagree with you on Naruto having better OP's, that's just not true. |
Pandarenboy said: Ok I got another question too. Wh..why this show has like 10 openings and endings? That gets old... and fast. One Piece has like 100 episodes more than Naruto and Naruto has 5x more Ops+eds? And maybe even better. Are they seriously being that cheap? Also about the Animation Quality. the fighting animations are pretty badly made despite the genre. It just gets more confusing the more I think about it. Mhm I never thought the popularity of a show depended on its ops/eds. In the end i prefer OP openings anyways. The fight scenes aren't as good as Naruto imo, but still what makes it pretty badly made? I think OP fight scenes are pretty good. |
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RandomPerson3 said: Pandarenboy said: Ok I got another question too. Wh..why this show has like 10 openings and endings? That gets old... and fast. One Piece has like 100 episodes more than Naruto and Naruto has 5x more Ops+eds? And maybe even better. Are they seriously being that cheap? Also about the Animation Quality. the fighting animations are pretty badly made despite the genre. It just gets more confusing the more I think about it. Because they keep reusing We Are which is awesome. Also disagree with you on Naruto having better OP's, that's just not true. Some of Naruto's OP are just pure shit. |
Candor said: Naruto has horrible OPs, with 2-3 good ones, One Piece has good ones and averages ones. Bleach has the best OPs (and OST in general). Hunter x Hunter (2011).. had that 1 OP (song, but different animation) that hasn't changed since the beginning of the anime lol. I'm loving the ED of HxH tho, hope it never changes. Again haven't watched Bleach but the second OP was pretty damn good. |
Candor said: Bleach did have some really good Ops and the a good OST, but I don't think I would say that it's the best. It fits for that setting, but it wouldn't work with One Piece. I like One Piece's instrumental ones with the classical songs thrown in there in some scenes.RandomPerson3 said: Naruto has horrible OPs, with 2-3 good ones, One Piece has good ones and averages ones. Bleach has the best OPs (and OST in general). Hunter x Hunter (2011).. had that 1 OP (song, but different animation) that hasn't changed since the beginning of the anime lol.Pandarenboy said: Ok I got another question too. Wh..why this show has like 10 openings and endings? That gets old... and fast. One Piece has like 100 episodes more than Naruto and Naruto has 5x more Ops+eds? And maybe even better. Are they seriously being that cheap? Also about the Animation Quality. the fighting animations are pretty badly made despite the genre. It just gets more confusing the more I think about it. Because they keep reusing We Are which is awesome. Also disagree with you on Naruto having better OP's, that's just not true. Naruto also has a pretty good OST. |
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-Miyu- said: Thought u meant bleach, my bad. No you were right. miss read. |
Pandarenboy said: Well I think that the idea of murderous organization is what makes Naruto so good. Akatsuki is just amazing and original group of villains. I agree that the quality has dropped a bit since Pain arc. The animated version of the Pain arc was amazing and the OP was well placed and hold some meaning to that arc. All I can say to this is watch Hunter x Hunter. It's where they got the idea from. Pandarenboy said: I've heard the One Piece OPs and EDs and I don't think they were that great... Then I disagree with you |
Pandarenboy said: Candor said: Added it to my plan to watch list but from what I can gather from Youtube it's nothing alike.Pandarenboy said: As RandomPerson said, watch Hunter x Hunter before claiming something in Naruto is original. Kishimoto was "inspired" from HxH in lots and lots of things.Well I think that the idea of murderous organization is what makes Naruto so good. Akatsuki is just amazing and original group of villains. I agree that the quality has dropped a bit since Pain arc. The animated version of the Pain arc was amazing and the OP was well placed and hold some meaning to that arc. Well the show it self is a little more dark and mature. But the Akatsuki is basically a rip-off of the Kumo/Spiders |
RandomPerson3 said: Pandarenboy said: Ok I got another question too. Wh..why this show has like 10 openings and endings? That gets old... and fast. One Piece has like 100 episodes more than Naruto and Naruto has 5x more Ops+eds? And maybe even better. Are they seriously being that cheap? Also about the Animation Quality. the fighting animations are pretty badly made despite the genre. It just gets more confusing the more I think about it. Because they keep reusing We Are which is awesome. Also disagree with you on Naruto having better OP's, that's just not true. Come on. It's well-known that Naruto OP/ED's are better than One Piece. Not to mention he's asking about numbers as well. Which is obviously related to budget and you know One Piece animation/art quality is not good as it should be unless you're totally oblivious about it. And i think it won't make you less fan if you accept some obvious flaws in things you like. I think Bleach OP's are better than both but still I have many favorite OP/ED from Naruto/Shippuden and only one from One Piece. Music pretty much subjective just like everything else but if you look at the quality and popularity of bands, in-between animation and overall art. Studio Perriot doing lot better job than Toei. |
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Han-yuu said: RandomPerson3 said: Pandarenboy said: Ok I got another question too. Wh..why this show has like 10 openings and endings? That gets old... and fast. One Piece has like 100 episodes more than Naruto and Naruto has 5x more Ops+eds? And maybe even better. Are they seriously being that cheap? Also about the Animation Quality. the fighting animations are pretty badly made despite the genre. It just gets more confusing the more I think about it. Because they keep reusing We Are which is awesome. Also disagree with you on Naruto having better OP's, that's just not true. Come on. It's well-known that Naruto OP/ED's are better than One Piece. Not to mention he's asking about numbers as well. Which is obviously related to budget and you know One Piece animation/art quality is not good as it should be unless you're totally oblivious about it. And i think it won't make you less fan if you accept some obvious flaws in things you like. I think Bleach OP's are better than both but still I have many favorite OP/ED from Naruto/Shippuden and only one from One Piece. Music pretty much subjective just like everything else but if you look at the quality and popularity of bands, in-between animation and overall art. Studio Perriot doing lot better job than Toei. IntroverTurtle you still online?? We got a contender! |
Candor said: Pandarenboy said: As RandomPerson said, watch Hunter x Hunter before claiming something in Naruto is original. Kishimoto was "inspired" from HxH in alot of things.Well I think that the idea of murderous organization is what makes Naruto so good. Akatsuki is just amazing and original group of villains. I agree that the quality has dropped a bit since Pain arc. The animated version of the Pain arc was amazing and the OP was well placed and hold some meaning to that arc. I think the idea of a secret organization is pretty old in every type of media. I hope you're not telling me Togashi invented it. |
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-Miyu- said: Lol, you guys are so mean. This is a shounen-war, what did you think we would be? Nice??? Sorry if we hurt your feelings tho. |
Han-yuu said: Im not sure if I am oblivious about the animation but I honestly don't know what's so bad about OP animations, I think its pretty decent and different but loads of people have ripped its art/animation when I get into a debate about it.Which is obviously related to budget and you know One Piece animation/art quality is not good as it should be unless you're totally oblivious about it. |
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RandomPerson3 said: Han-yuu said: RandomPerson3 said: Pandarenboy said: Ok I got another question too. Wh..why this show has like 10 openings and endings? That gets old... and fast. One Piece has like 100 episodes more than Naruto and Naruto has 5x more Ops+eds? And maybe even better. Are they seriously being that cheap? Also about the Animation Quality. the fighting animations are pretty badly made despite the genre. It just gets more confusing the more I think about it. Because they keep reusing We Are which is awesome. Also disagree with you on Naruto having better OP's, that's just not true. Come on. It's well-known that Naruto OP/ED's are better than One Piece. Not to mention he's asking about numbers as well. Which is obviously related to budget and you know One Piece animation/art quality is not good as it should be unless you're totally oblivious about it. And i think it won't make you less fan if you accept some obvious flaws in things you like. I think Bleach OP's are better than both but still I have many favorite OP/ED from Naruto/Shippuden and only one from One Piece. Music pretty much subjective just like everything else but if you look at the quality and popularity of bands, in-between animation and overall art. Studio Perriot doing lot better job than Toei. IntroverTurtle you still online?? We got a contender! I'm not sure what you're asking IntroverTurtle to prove. If it's related to Music. I already said that its subjective as much as anything get. So telling me One Piece Music > Naruto is not possible. Now the only thing you can look here is the budget. Naruto get new openning after every 26 episodes and ending after 12 episodes. That was same for Bleach. Not to mention how many popular bands they used while One Piece singers are mostly popular because of those opennings. :) AND i would like if you can try to prove One Piece animation quality being better than Naruto and Bleach. Again these are not ODA faults but Toei Animation. I'm not big fan of Studio Perriot but still they're better than Toei in this regard. Though they're sucks when it comes to fillers and adding extra material. Toei at-least wins that. Candor said: Han-yuu said: Candor said: Pandarenboy said: As RandomPerson said, watch Hunter x Hunter before claiming something in Naruto is original. Kishimoto was "inspired" from HxH in alot of things.Well I think that the idea of murderous organization is what makes Naruto so good. Akatsuki is just amazing and original group of villains. I agree that the quality has dropped a bit since Pain arc. The animated version of the Pain arc was amazing and the OP was well placed and hold some meaning to that arc. I think the idea of a secret organization is pretty old in every type of media. I hope you're not telling me Togashi invented it. No one is saying that. Actually there is a lot of differences between the Akatsuki and the Ryodan, they're not that similar. It's just that I find it funny how sometimes whenever Togashi does something, despite whether it's original or not, you see Kishimoto doing the same in a matter of a year, more or less. It happened at the beginning more often I believe, now Kishimoto is doing things his way, with copying some ideas once in a while. Maybe the silent chapter is a recent example. I haven't read/watch Hiatus x Hiatus yet and won't until it get finished, So i can't talk about what Kishimoto copied exactly. BUT if what you said is true than you know it's not copying. There is a big difference between copying and inspiration/homage. Not to mention author collect materials/ideas from many different types of media. So you can't exactly sure if he got it from HxH. Oda being a big fan of Toriyama and I heard Luffy and Goku are lot similar. Or popular orange jumo suit and Kishimoto said that he like hollywood movies and get ideas from them too. Also i heard lots of Bleach ideas comes from Togashi earlier work and DB. But everything is already used even if we don't know, so i never consider anything truly unique and out of this world. As long as it's not exactly copy/plagiarism of someone else work then the only thing left is execution. I agree that Pandarboy used a wrong word there but that doesn't mean Kishimoto getting it from HxH even if they're similar. Mkayyy said: Han-yuu said: Im not sure if I am oblivious about the animation but I honestly don't know what's so bad about OP animations, I think its pretty decent and different but loads of people have ripped its art/animation when I get into a debate about it.Which is obviously related to budget and you know One Piece animation/art quality is not good as it should be unless you're totally oblivious about it. It's decent. Yes. but if you look at OP manga sales and TV ratings. It's not. It could be lot better and beat all other long running shounen anime by a great margin but time after time you see huge drop in art quality and animation. If you want to check then just look at repeating frames when luffy is running. I can't go and search through all scenes but if you want to check then look around 425 when luffy and buggy are running in impel down. Not sure what you mean ripped it's art/animation. |
Han-yuuJan 4, 2013 10:53 AM
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| And now this thread is about the openings & endings,ha! |
| My Devianart Oh & Space Brothers is still the best anime ever,in my opinion.Even when competing with Attack on Titan. |
JeddyVII said: Why not? :PAnd now this thread is about the openings & endings,ha! |
RandomPerson3 said: JeddyVII said: Why not? :PAnd now this thread is about the openings & endings,ha! I'm just saying it funny how this thread derailed from the original question because it's was too stupid to care about.1st it becomes a discussion about fillers now it's about openings & endings.There probably was a few others,but they're too small to list. -Miyu- said: Jeddy, post 2 more times! Hit that 1k I know.I'm probably going to try to do something with it. |
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| My Devianart Oh & Space Brothers is still the best anime ever,in my opinion.Even when competing with Attack on Titan. |
| Don't hate. One Piece is the only anime that made me laugh in the past and the story is the best out of the big three...that's all, sir. |
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Pandarenboy said: Well I think that the idea of murderous organization is what makes Naruto so good. Akatsuki is just amazing and original group of villains. I agree that the quality has dropped a bit since Pain arc. The animated version of the Pain arc was amazing and the OP was well placed and hold some meaning to that arc. You're kidding me right? That was the WORST animated arc in the whole series. Hell, I wouldnt even call that arc "anime". Those flabby derp faces, and Pain getting smashed to the ground, somehow water comes out of nowhere and the background turn into the sea. The Shinra Tensei doesnt even look like it pushed the village, more like a brown colour went over the whole village. I would want you to compare the Seven Warlords of the Sea to the Akatsuki. If there was a battle with them.. then, surely Akatsuki is the winner (-cough- overpowered hax jutsu + immortal duo) but I say the Warlords have the better design and character. |
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RandomPerson3 said: Mikasa said: RandomPerson3 said: Mikasa said: Funny or not, this is not what you put after the most hyped time-skip in anime/manga Nope you put this: How can you now seriously say that sucked??? Cliche dbz-style one-hit op character with (not-so-)witty comebacks and showed crowed with jaws drapped, that's how >.> and it still didn't make up for how lame the arc was. Why was it 6 episodes anyway? Don't say it like that, say it like "YAY DBZ STYLE ACTION XD". And the rest of the arc was hilarious. Mkayy seems to like it to. Stop being a bummer. Sorry, the arc was just bad. And what sucks most is that it was after the time-skip, which makes OP's TS the worst out of the...4-5 Timeskips i've seen, and because of how good the build-up was...it makes it the biggest disappointment in all anime/manga for me. (Even bigger than SAO's) @Candor thanks for defending me :P though they weren't being aggressive so it's not a problem :D Lastly, I can get Bleach vs OP vs Naruto...but Fairy Tail? -_- |
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Mikasa said: RandomPerson3 said: Mikasa said: RandomPerson3 said: Mikasa said: Funny or not, this is not what you put after the most hyped time-skip in anime/manga Nope you put this: How can you now seriously say that sucked??? Cliche dbz-style one-hit op character with (not-so-)witty comebacks and showed crowed with jaws drapped, that's how >.> and it still didn't make up for how lame the arc was. Why was it 6 episodes anyway? Don't say it like that, say it like "YAY DBZ STYLE ACTION XD". And the rest of the arc was hilarious. Mkayy seems to like it to. Stop being a bummer. Sorry, the arc was just bad. And what sucks most is that it was after the time-skip, which makes OP's TS the worst out of the...4-5 Timeskips i've seen, and because of how good the build-up was...it makes it the biggest disappointment in all anime/manga for me. (Even bigger than SAO's) @Candor thanks for defending me :P though they weren't being aggressive so it's not a problem :D Lastly, I can get Bleach vs OP vs Naruto...but Fairy Tail? -_- Agree on the Fairy Tail part and don't mind you not liking a arc that I loved in a show that I loved. I let everyone have different opinions . But.... COMPARING OP TO SAO! FUUUUUUUUUUU! |
Mikasa said: See that's where you are alone here, everybody else here says that they liked those episodes. There was nothing wrong with the return to Sabaondy episodes. I liked those one hit fights between the pacifistas and the crew, they showed a little of how much they've grown and foreshadowed the reveal of new and stronger pacifistas and how the world has changed in the past 2 years. Just because another anime used something similar in a filler episode doesn't make these episodes any worse or like a filler.Sorry, the arc was just bad. And what sucks most is that it was after the time-skip, which makes OP's TS the worst out of the...4-5 Timeskips i've seen, and because of how good the build-up was...it makes it the biggest disappointment in all anime/manga for me. (Even bigger than SAO's) The Fairy Tail time skip was way worse. |
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IntroverTurtle said: That time-skip was one huge troll even Kubo couldn't do, the sudden power-up was also as bad. Here is a meme that was made back then:The Fairy Tail time skip was way worse. |
IntroverTurtle said: Mikasa said: See that's where you are alone here, everybody else here says that they liked those episodes. There was nothing wrong with the return to Sabaondy episodes. I liked those one hit fights between the pacifistas and the crew, they showed a little of how much they've grown and foreshadowed the reveal of new and stronger pacifistas and how the world has changed in the past 2 years. Just because another anime used something similar in a filler episode doesn't make these episodes any worse or like a filler.Sorry, the arc was just bad. And what sucks most is that it was after the time-skip, which makes OP's TS the worst out of the...4-5 Timeskips i've seen, and because of how good the build-up was...it makes it the biggest disappointment in all anime/manga for me. (Even bigger than SAO's) The Fairy Tail time skip was way worse. But it does. Filler-like characters and fodder robots just don't really strike me as a good way to start a Post-TS arc. And then we went to FI then I went (-___-) As for the FT flashback, I'm too human to be able to get passed the first 20 eps of FT so idk. Bleach's TS...I actually never realized there was a TS until someone told me, so it wasn't good or bad... just pointless. |
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| I actually really enjoyed OP's TS in its entirety. Fairy Tail's was BS in its ultimate form. It came out of complete nowhere, then the extreme power ups were just im-freaking-possible. Why didn't they power up like that before the freakin time skip? Well whatever- then they get stronger, enter a tournament, and beat the shit out of the strongest guilds? What the hell am I reading? I don't even know. It's out of nowhere chaos. One Piece was pretty sweet. After seeing Luffy and the Straw Hats get completely annhilated by an identical pacifista... and then beating the crap out of it with a 1 hit KO... epic? YAH. I mean, the anime dragged it out a lot... but the concept and manga execution were really sweet. The Straw Hats are now famous enough to impersonate. Awesome. Pure awesomeness. (I may be a little biased.) But Fairy Tail? Utter shit. Seriously. Utter shit. |
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