-Miyu- said: RandomPerson2 said: Maybe everything, but OPPlotwise: Baccano! Perfect Blue Tokyo Godfathers One Piece Steins;Gate Contentwise: Steins;Gate GITS Wanna start something?! |
Yoshida_Haru said: As much as I enjoyed Baccano, the whole alchemist-immortality with bad guys thing means its just another action flick. It's very well done mind you, but I wouldn't call it intelligent. Intelligent must not only be referred as a police investigation-type of anime like Death Note. I found Baccano! extremely well written. That why I think it's the most intelligent anime I've seen so far! Theodoricos said: Of course.@AeonsLegend: Would you say the same holds true for other forms of media, such as western live action shows, video games or movies in general, not just anime? Just curious about your thoughts on the matter. |
-Miyu- said: RandomPerson2 said: -Miyu- said: RandomPerson2 said: Maybe everything, but OPPlotwise: Baccano! Perfect Blue Tokyo Godfathers One Piece Steins;Gate Contentwise: Steins;Gate GITS Wanna start something?! Yoshida_Haru said: One Piece? What's it doing here?! Plottwists are extremely well planned out. Every canon episode moves the story forward and for a 500 episode story is definetly an achievement. Main charcters get fleshed out and depth (some even improving on old formulas). Maintaining a constant mix of comedy, action and drama while still not making it to repetive and working from a character standpoint. |
RandomPerson4Dec 31, 2012 9:00 AM
killerbass said: The "most intelligent anime over the year award" has to goto Inferno cop. This. Though intelligent may be too dumb of a word to accurately describe it. |
| Monster. If not Monster, though, then Death Note. |
RandomPerson2 said: It also adds in themes of racism, slavery, justice, eugenics, weapons of mass destruction, etc. The continuity is also amazing, even things from the beginning of the anime are secrets that help unravel the world and the mysteries surrounding it.-Miyu- said: RandomPerson2 said: -Miyu- said: RandomPerson2 said: Maybe everything, but OPPlotwise: Baccano! Perfect Blue Tokyo Godfathers One Piece Steins;Gate Contentwise: Steins;Gate GITS Wanna start something?! Yoshida_Haru said: One Piece? What's it doing here?! Plottwists are extremely well planned out. Every canon episode moves the story forward and for a 500 episode story is definetly an achievement. Main charcters get fleshed out and depth (some even improving on old formulas). Maintaining a constant mix of comedy, action and drama while still not making it to repetive and working from a character standpoint. |
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professor-salt said: Can't believe I didn't think of that one. It's a pretty "deep" anime.Bible Black |
RandomPerson2 said: -Miyu- said: RandomPerson2 said: -Miyu- said: RandomPerson2 said: Maybe everything, but OPPlotwise: Baccano! Perfect Blue Tokyo Godfathers One Piece Steins;Gate Contentwise: Steins;Gate GITS Wanna start something?! Yoshida_Haru said: One Piece? What's it doing here?! Plottwists are extremely well planned out. Every canon episode moves the story forward and for a 500 episode story is definetly an achievement. Main charcters get fleshed out and depth (some even improving on old formulas). Maintaining a constant mix of comedy, action and drama while still not making it to repetive and working from a character standpoint. Then I'd throw Naruto/Shippuuden there too. |
natssuu said: RandomPerson2 said: -Miyu- said: RandomPerson2 said: -Miyu- said: RandomPerson2 said: Maybe everything, but OPPlotwise: Baccano! Perfect Blue Tokyo Godfathers One Piece Steins;Gate Contentwise: Steins;Gate GITS Wanna start something?! Yoshida_Haru said: One Piece? What's it doing here?! Plottwists are extremely well planned out. Every canon episode moves the story forward and for a 500 episode story is definetly an achievement. Main charcters get fleshed out and depth (some even improving on old formulas). Maintaining a constant mix of comedy, action and drama while still not making it to repetive and working from a character standpoint. Then I'd throw Naruto/Shippuuden there too. No. just no. |
| hmmm lets see.... Steins;Gate lawl that was awesome and insane all about science as well lawl >.<!!!! |
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-Miyu- said: Guys, I think this is the thread you're looking for: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=445&show=4740 What do you consider the most intelligent that you've seen then? |
-Miyu- said: Hahaha You're funny.Guys, I think this is the thread you're looking for: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=445&show=4740 |
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Pandarenboy said: Reading comprehension is lacking. Look at the post you quoted. The guy is talking about how a magical notebook is pointless when we can just legalize capital punishment for every offense.Tachii said: it wasnt replied towards anyone...Don't post if you didn't get it, then. It wasn't even replied toward you. :/ |
Ok so I've been watching Hyouka and I guess it has pretty looking animations, but the drawback about the series is... I've already seen these WITH actual tricks, lol. The 1st "case" was dragged out unnecessarily and actually makes Tantei Gakuen Q umbrella scene look good... Idk ill watch this till the end though, it's not bad even if the case drags unnecessarily and contains nothing. |
| I just finished watching Steins;Gate and it is one of the most intelligent animé I have ever seen. I hate to mention Death Note because it is so damn overrated, but to be honest, it is pretty intelligent. |
DevilSexorcist said: DR.Eggman has 300+IQ, Shikamaru has 200+, GF!the most intelligent....would have to be....The big O?...the most intelligent person...shikamaru from naruto |
| By most researched- i liked how they did "Upotte!!" but i wouldnt say it was the most intelligent. I hate the 2smart4yoo kind of animes that they try to pull, so i would go with... i dont really know which i would go with. Its kind of subjective to personal interests and opinions... |
abrams said: IntroverTurtle said: -Miyu- said: Hahaha You're funny.Guys, I think this is the thread you're looking for: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=445&show=4740 Still, its kind of alarming how many times DN and Monster pop up. Why would people confuse entertaining with smart. Hell, there's nothing wrong with mid-brow entertainment. I'd even give the first half of Monster a 9. And why is nobody mentioning FMA then. Intellectually its in the same league as DN, maybe even a bit higher, and just as entertaining. It is not alarming whatsoever that Monster is brought up. |
| “Suppose, gentlemen, that man is not stupid.” |
abrams said: Tachii said: 1. Death penalty for all offenses will never be implemented. I don't know why you bother to even suggest this. 2. What is this way to get rid of criminals? Tons of criminals never get caught in some parts of the world. Contrary to belief the police even in parts of developed countries are not really effective. I won't deny Light is a hubris egomaniac but your first reason is just outright silly. It's probably one of the reasons the writer had this idea about a magical notebook. You make it sound like government of the world would just suddenly allow capital punishment for all offenses when some countries don't even have capital punishment for severe cases. By same logic a magical notebook will never exist, discussion over. It's a hypothetical. Pleas read the whole thing again. Wasn't his plan to eliminate the criminals of the world, or people he deems bad, to make it a better place. My argument was that getting rid of the people is not a problem, you don't need a magical notebook to do it, if anything the notebook idea is highly impractical (even if it were possible), as you would need to spend quite some time writing to get them all. And the problem is not getting rid of them, its how do you know who is bad, it's not like you can see into their minds/souls/hearts. And taking it to be criminals is a gross oversimplification. By pointing out the inadequacies of the justice system (yes, they're not good at this looking into souls either) you just supported my argument. The whole idea is poorly conceived and reflects/appeals to the childish frustration with the lack of divine justice (bad people getting away with it) in the world, and a desire to fix it personally by making oneself to be god that dishes out such justice. Tachii said: Reading comprehension is lacking. Look at the post you quoted. Indeed. I have no stake in whether or not Death Note is intelligent, but I am capable of reading. The idea that writing someone's name in a book to kill them is impractical, perfectly describes how lazy we've become as a society. We do have a problem with "getting rid of them" or at least rehabilitating criminals if you look at recidivism rates. Of course, I don't suggest killing them all though. The idea was in fact to appeal to mankind's love of divine arbitration. Everyone loves simple solutions to complicated problems: Look at our political process in America and enjoy. And everyone has had the idea that they could do better than the current system—I find this to be a positive trait—as long as they have the merit to achieve it. |
| “Suppose, gentlemen, that man is not stupid.” |
abrams said: I've heard your line of reasoning before. Thing is, it's just wickedly more interesting if there was a magical notebook. And tons of people dig the idea. It doesn't have to be practical as long as the story is interesting. It probably wasn't for you but it appealed to a lot of people.By same logic a magical notebook will never exist, discussion over. It's a hypothetical. Pleas read the whole thing again. Wasn't his plan to eliminate the criminals of the world, or people he deems bad, to make it a better place. My argument was that getting rid of the people is not a problem, you don't need a magical notebook to do it, if anything the notebook idea is highly impractical (even if it were possible), as you would need to spend quite some time writing to get them all. And the problem is not getting rid of them, its how do you know who is bad, it's not like you can see into their minds/souls/hearts. And taking it to be criminals is a gross oversimplification. By pointing out the inadequacies of the justice system (yes, they're not good at this looking into souls either) you just supported my argument. The whole idea is poorly conceived and reflects/appeals to the childish frustration with the lack of divine justice (bad people getting away with it) in the world, and a desire to fix it personally by making oneself to be god that dishes out such justice. Sidenote: Not sure if my reading comprehension reply got lost in context, lol. |
abrams said: Ineptia said: I have no stake in whether or not Death Note is intelligent, but I am capable of reading. The idea that writing someone's name in a book to kill them is impractical, perfectly describes how lazy we've become as a society. We do have a problem with "getting rid of them" or at least rehabilitating criminals if you look at recidivism rates. Of course, I don't suggest killing them all though. The idea was in fact to appeal to mankind's love of divine arbitration. Everyone loves simple solutions to complicated problems: Look at our political process in America and enjoy. And everyone has had the idea that they could do better than the current system—I find this to be a positive trait—as long as they have the merit to achieve it. You give average people way too much credit. The fact is that the number of enlightened individuals who could even ponder the idea of remaking the society without making complete asses of themselves, is quite small. The fact that politicians suck is more or less a reflection of the fact that the public sucks. What is worse, the people who find the idea appealing are usually not the ones you'd want to. Which could be quite dangerous. I didn't give anyone any credit. It takes two to tango and I specifically mentioned "political process" thus including the public, the media, the private sector, the political institutions, and the government itself. "Suck" is a rather vague adjective and I have a better one for you, "self-serving". I still hold fast to the idea that it is a positive trait to want to correct or improve the system of law or whatever else. This is the root of all progress. It comes with danger sure, but what doesn't? If we admit the system is broken: It's only evidence that it is dangerous to continue as is. |
| “Suppose, gentlemen, that man is not stupid.” |
| Huh, I am more and more convinced that Watching monster would be a good idea |
| "Justice Never Dies!" - Kenji Endou, 20th century Boys |
 I'm still thinking of one. |
MellowJello said: Still thinking of cod?I'm still thinking of one. |
-Miyu- said: MellowJello said: Still thinking of cod?I'm still thinking of one. Exactly. Mmmm... |
| Fullmetal alchemist death note |
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abrams said: Ineptia said: "Suck" is a rather vague adjective and I have a better one for you, "self-serving". I was being facetious. I'm not against change, if there is a need for it, even a revolution could be in order. It's just that the kind of people that call for it are usually the least qualified. Hence the modern day oxymoron of a "conservative revolution". It's good for a laugh. If you take a run of the mill dangerous fanatic, you will find that they are full of good intentions (for their people/cause that is), and convinced they have the truth, justice and maybe even god on their side and thus can do no wrong. So basically like an activist only with guns and bombs. I also don't believe in organic change, not when it comes to societies. It's a silly idea that has never worked to achieve anything that wasn't insignificant. Or the merits of democracy. Systemic corruption can only be stamped out by force, and who is going to do that, who is willing, yes you guessed, the wrong kind of people. But I believe we have strayed of the topic quite a bit. I wouldn't call that being facetious (It wasn't funny to use "suck" or even irreverent as it's a common refrain; I know what it means), being that the premise is correct. In a Republic or Democracy, the public holds responsibility for the government as opposed to an autocracy. (A paraphrase from LoGH which I consider the most intelligent anime I've seen—I'm still on topic!) I never accused you of being against change, but against the elements of change, of which, you still are. I don't agree with your last tangent either, but to stay on topic I won't pursue it. |
IneptiaDec 31, 2012 8:16 PM
| “Suppose, gentlemen, that man is not stupid.” |
Tachii said: I just randomly checked anime lists of people that posted Death Note in this topic. I now understand why they think Death Note is intelligent. Most people have to compare it to naruto and bleach.abrams said: I've heard your line of reasoning before. Thing is, it's just wickedly more interesting if there was a magical notebook. And tons of people dig the idea. It doesn't have to be practical as long as the story is interesting. It probably wasn't for you but it appealed to a lot of people.By same logic a magical notebook will never exist, discussion over. It's a hypothetical. Pleas read the whole thing again. Wasn't his plan to eliminate the criminals of the world, or people he deems bad, to make it a better place. My argument was that getting rid of the people is not a problem, you don't need a magical notebook to do it, if anything the notebook idea is highly impractical (even if it were possible), as you would need to spend quite some time writing to get them all. And the problem is not getting rid of them, its how do you know who is bad, it's not like you can see into their minds/souls/hearts. And taking it to be criminals is a gross oversimplification. By pointing out the inadequacies of the justice system (yes, they're not good at this looking into souls either) you just supported my argument. The whole idea is poorly conceived and reflects/appeals to the childish frustration with the lack of divine justice (bad people getting away with it) in the world, and a desire to fix it personally by making oneself to be god that dishes out such justice. Sidenote: Not sure if my reading comprehension reply got lost in context, lol. |
AeonsLegend said: I just randomly checked anime lists of people that posted Death Note in this topic. I now understand why they think Death Note is intelligent. Most people have to compare it to naruto and bleach. Comical, isn't it? |
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| I guess Spiral should be added to the list after thinking for a sec. |
k11chi said: Added to what list?I guess Spiral should be added to the list after thinking for a sec. |
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IntroverTurtle said: Why the intelligent anime list of course.k11chi said: Added to what list?I guess Spiral should be added to the list after thinking for a sec. |
Tachii said: IntroverTurtle said: Why the intelligent anime list of course.k11chi said: Added to what list?I guess Spiral should be added to the list after thinking for a sec. i like u |
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Tachii said: I don't think so.IntroverTurtle said: Why the intelligent anime list of course.k11chi said: Added to what list?I guess Spiral should be added to the list after thinking for a sec. |
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IntroverTurtle said: Tachii said: I don't think so.IntroverTurtle said: Why the intelligent anime list of course.k11chi said: Added to what list?I guess Spiral should be added to the list after thinking for a sec. that's your opinion |
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renders said: Well then tell me what is intelligent about the show, that no other show does?IntroverTurtle said: Tachii said: I don't think so.IntroverTurtle said: Why the intelligent anime list of course.k11chi said: Added to what list?I guess Spiral should be added to the list after thinking for a sec. that's your opinion |
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IntroverTurtle said: renders said: Well then tell me what is intelligent about the show, that no other show does?IntroverTurtle said: Tachii said: I don't think so.IntroverTurtle said: Why the intelligent anime list of course.k11chi said: Added to what list?I guess Spiral should be added to the list after thinking for a sec. that's your opinion it doesn't matter if I tell you or not since you already said you didn't enjoyed it.that's like somebody trying to tell me hotd is intelligent which I hated. the show had it's mind games,cases,tests and philosophical matters that get explored better in the manga but as I said it's ok if you didn't like it.the anime had a good first half but the fillerish 2nd half ruined it |
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