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k-Tek said: Will the 'continuation' be Little Busters: Refrain or will they animate the EX routes? Both. icantfeelmyarms said: ...Why? You know nothing about the whole content but I don't mind about your complain to the art. Linkark07 said: So this will be like Fate/Zero and Jormungand? When episode 26 finishes they will take a break for finish, probably the last scenario and the Ex girls? Yes probably. |
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| Remember guys we all read the same thing. Nothing here says that Refrain wont be in this season (or that it will either). Sa-Chan is just guessing when he says it will be a continuation including Refrain and the EX routes. I'm taking this to mean that they will finish Refrain in this season (not finishing the main storyline would be pitiful) and what the director is talking about will be for the EX routes. As I've said before, Refrain is short. I finished it in five hours. I know that Saya's route cannot be anything but in an OVA or movie (if you truly want to know why, go look up spoilers for it and the series). Honestly all I really care to see is the main scenario from beginning to end. If they do Saya's route in an OVA or something, awesome. But even so... I can't see another 18 or more episodes come after this. It's not Clannad After Story. |
Malus92Nov 1, 2012 10:46 PM
ClannadIsLove said: Remember guys we all read the same thing. Nothing here says that Refrain wont be in this season (or that it will either). Sa-Chan is just guessing when he says it will be a continuation including Refrain and the EX routes. I'm taking this to mean that they will finish Refrain in this season (not finishing the main storyline would be pitiful) and what the director is talking about will be for the EX routes. As I've said before, Refrain is short. I finished it in five hours. I know that Saya's route cannot be anything but in an OVA or movie (if you truly want to know why, go look up spoilers for it and the series). Honestly all I really care to see is the main scenario from beginning to end. If they do Saya's route in an OVA or something, awesome. But even so... I can't see another 18 or more episodes come after this. It's not Clannad After Story. The scriptwriter said it would take 100 episodes to faithfully adapt Little Busters. So I think hes hinting for sure it won't be over in just 26 episodes and they'll need a 2nd season to do it justice. |
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Yandy said: That's quite reassuring. Just a little haha |
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ClannadIsLove said: I'm taking this to mean that they will finish Refrain in this season (not finishing the main storyline would be pitiful) and what the director is talking about will be for the EX routes. Clannad didn't finish the story in the first season, was that pitiful? As I've said before, Refrain is short. I finished it in five hours. 5 hours is 300 minutes, an average episode is 22 minutes (without OP or ED), that's 13 episodes. So do you expect the girls' routes to be finished by episode 13, and then 13 episodes for Refrain? |
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ClannadIsLove said: Remember guys we all read the same thing. Nothing here says that Refrain wont be in this season (or that it will either). Sa-Chan is just guessing when he says it will be a continuation including Refrain and the EX routes. I'm taking this to mean that they will finish Refrain in this season (not finishing the main storyline would be pitiful) and what the director is talking about will be for the EX routes. As I've said before, Refrain is short. I finished it in five hours. I can't see another 18 or more episodes come after this. It's not Clannad After Story. We know it's impossible to cover the whole story with the current pace. We know 26 episodes is too short. This is exactly what are we worrying about before, right? He said it himself that 26 episodes is too short so isn't that obvious? Also, I'm not guessing since the news is VERY CLEAR. ClannadIsLove said: I know that Saya's route cannot be anything but in an OVA or movie (if you truly want to know why, go look up spoilers for it and the series). Honestly all I really care to see is the main scenario from beginning to end. If they do Saya's route in an OVA or something, awesome. But her story is also a part of Little Busters. I believe you haven't played her story so don't act as you know everything about her story. Besides, Finishing Saya's path is good for 2 days or approximately 1 day without taking a nap break so compare that to Refrain which you're saying you finished it in 5 hours so why Saya's as OVA or something only hmmm? Also, Sa-chan_ said: jmal said: Sa-chan_ said: But then again, since they're talking about episodes, I don't think it'll be a Movie or OVA. Could still be an OVA if talking in "episodes". But TV series is most likely. Indeed but I'm also thinking that TV series is most likely than OVA. |
TennoujiNov 2, 2012 5:14 AM
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| Will they let KyoAni handle this "continuation"? Please? |
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Sa-chan_ said: This is exactly what are we worrying about before, right? He said it himself that 26 episodes is too short so isn't that obvious? Also, I'm not guessing since the news is VERY CLEAR. Haven't you played the VN, Sa-Chan? Refrain is very short. It's a five hour route and every time you do something, you literally then switch to another character's point of view and watch it happen again. That is something they can cut out. Refrain could be finished in just three episodes if they wanted. And with the other girls' routes... no way can it be more than 26. They have said something and you are taking it another way. Until they SPECIFICALLY say "Refrain will be in this season" or "Refrain will not be in this season" you are just guessing. Sa-chan_ said: But her story is also a part of Little Busters. I believe you haven't played her story so don't act as you know everything about her story. Besides, Finishing Saya's path is good for 2 days or approximately 1 day without taking a nap break so compare that to Refrain which you're saying you finished it in 5 hours so why Saya's as OVA or something only hmmm? No, Saya's story is part of Little Busters! EX. In order to access her route you have to say "Yes" when asked "Do you know the secret of the world?" before playing. If her route TRULY was part of Little Busters! it would have been added in the main game. The way they set it up it and the other two new routes are like bonuses, or extra levels in a game. They might not be canon. You have to finish the game (know the secret of the world) to play her route, because in the true canon of the series you can't play her route since, going by the timeline, you would not understand it before doing Refrain. No, I don't know everything about her story but I do know that Putting Saya in with the main series would mess everyone's minds up since it would spoil Refrain, and since Refrain and the common route are.. well... vastly different they can't have her route during it or afterwards. They would HAVE to do it in an OVA. Like I said, they didn't specifically say anything. Everything they said was just that the fans would be pleased and "your favorite girl's route would be animated," so it sounds to me like they're trying to say there will be extra episodes (OVAs maybe) that cover the EX routes. But Refrain? Nothing there says it will be in those extra episodes. I'm not saying this is aimed at you, but people on here seriously need to stop acting like they're going to get basically an After Story season. I've played the VN and Refrain is super short, and with the 26 episodes they already have there is no way they can make another 22-26 for a season two. People need to realize that. I thought Refrain would be like AS, then suddenly I'm at the credits five hours in and I'm like, "What the fuck?" It's an excellent series with a great story, but they can do all the routes + Refrain in season one. EX routes probably in a mini series or OVA, but Saya's route simply can't be done without being after the series is over as a special or something. If anyone truly wants to know why, here. |
ClannadIsLove said: Haven't you played the VN, Sa-Chan? Can't tell if this is a joke or what. ClannadIsLove said: Refrain is very short. It's a five hour route and every time you do something, you literally then switch to another character's point of view and watch it happen again. dtshyk said: We know 26 episodes is too short. So can you tell what this is means? You haven't mention the 6 original paths so what do you expect about their number of episodes? ClannadIsLove said: They have said something and you are taking it another way. Until they SPECIFICALLY say "Refrain will be in this season" or "Refrain will not be in this season" you are just guessing. dtshyk said: We know 26 episodes is too short. Once again, can you tell what this means. I mean, this sentence is pretty obvious, right? ClannadIsLove said: No, Saya's story is part of Little Busters! EX. In order to access her route you have to say "Yes" when asked "Do you know the secret of the world?" before playing. If her route TRULY was part of Little Busters! it would have been added in the main game. The way they set it up it and the other two new routes are like bonuses, or extra levels in a game. They might not be canon. You have to finish the game (know the secret of the world) to play her route, because in the true canon of the series you can't play her route since, going by the timeline, you would not understand it before doing Refrain. Little Busters -> Little Buster EX. Check the first one. It's still part of LB. And that's why her path might adapt after Refrain. So what's your problem about adapting her path? ClannadIsLove said: Putting Saya in with the main series would mess everyone's minds up since it would spoil Refrain, and since Refrain and the common route are.. well... vastly different they can't have her route during it or afterwards. They would HAVE to do it in an OVA. I don't know how did you get "putting her story in the main series". And why spoiling Refrain if there's a possibility that they will animate it AFTER Refrain? ClannadIsLove said: Like I said, they didn't specifically say anything. Everything they said was just that the fans would be pleased and "your favorite girl's route would be animated," so it sounds to me like they're trying to say there will be extra episodes (OVAs maybe) that cover the EX routes. But Refrain? Nothing there says it will be in those extra episodes. Like I said, they're talking about "number of episodes" so TV series for them is most likely than OVA. Okay, I'll tell you on how many hours did I finish the 3 EX. Sasami -> 5 hours but I couldn't tell the exact with English patch since I skipped the JP text that without voice(Particularly Riki's narration and dialogues). Kanata -> I forgot but it's longer than Sasami's AFAIK. I do the same thing on skipping. Saya -> 2 days. Approximately 1 day if there's no break time. I do the same thing on skipping. That concludes that it's longer than your "5 hours finished Refrain". Annnd, dtshyk said: We know 26 episodes is too short. ClannadIsLove said: I'm not saying this is aimed at you, but people on here seriously need to stop acting like they're going to get basically an After Story season. I've played the VN and Refrain is super short, and with the 26 episodes they already have there is no way they can make another 22-26 for a season two. People need to realize that. I thought Refrain would be like AS, then suddenly I'm at the credits five hours in and I'm like, "What the fuck?" It's an excellent series with a great story, but they can do all the routes + Refrain in season one. EX routes probably in a mini series or OVA, but Saya's route simply can't be done without being after the series is over as a special or something. If anyone truly wants to know why, here. dtshyk said: We know 26 episodes is too short. And I know it's not only aimed at me. But seriously, he already mentioned 26 episodes is too short meaning another season for Refrain is most likely. And I can agree EX paths can be a mini series but of course Saya MUST also included since her story won't fit in just a single OVA and 1 hour 30 minute Movie won't adapt her story very well so a possibility that her story might be butchered is high. Also, if you don't know, Sasami's and Kanata's are also in the GONNA ADD THIS: dtshyk said: We have promised to animate the entire scenario of the game. It may also conclude that they will animate trivial scenes like Muscle Sensation, Battle Rankings, Kick In The Can and many more and the possibility those that I mentioned will be on this season is high. So Refrain on this season isn't possible. |
TennoujiNov 2, 2012 10:46 AM
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ClannadIsLove said: Sa-chan_ said: This is exactly what are we worrying about before, right? He said it himself that 26 episodes is too short so isn't that obvious? Also, I'm not guessing since the news is VERY CLEAR. Haven't you played the VN, Sa-Chan? Refrain is very short. It's a five hour route and every time you do something, you literally then switch to another character's point of view and watch it happen again. That is something they can cut out. Refrain could be finished in just three episodes if they wanted. And with the other girls' routes... no way can it be more than 26. They have said something and you are taking it another way. Until they SPECIFICALLY say "Refrain will be in this season" or "Refrain will not be in this season" you are just guessing. Sa-chan_ said: But her story is also a part of Little Busters. I believe you haven't played her story so don't act as you know everything about her story. Besides, Finishing Saya's path is good for 2 days or approximately 1 day without taking a nap break so compare that to Refrain which you're saying you finished it in 5 hours so why Saya's as OVA or something only hmmm? No, Saya's story is part of Little Busters! EX. In order to access her route you have to say "Yes" when asked "Do you know the secret of the world?" before playing. If her route TRULY was part of Little Busters! it would have been added in the main game. The way they set it up it and the other two new routes are like bonuses, or extra levels in a game. They might not be canon. You have to finish the game (know the secret of the world) to play her route, because in the true canon of the series you can't play her route since, going by the timeline, you would not understand it before doing Refrain. No, I don't know everything about her story but I do know that Putting Saya in with the main series would mess everyone's minds up since it would spoil Refrain, and since Refrain and the common route are.. well... vastly different they can't have her route during it or afterwards. They would HAVE to do it in an OVA. Like I said, they didn't specifically say anything. Everything they said was just that the fans would be pleased and "your favorite girl's route would be animated," so it sounds to me like they're trying to say there will be extra episodes (OVAs maybe) that cover the EX routes. But Refrain? Nothing there says it will be in those extra episodes. I'm not saying this is aimed at you, but people on here seriously need to stop acting like they're going to get basically an After Story season. I've played the VN and Refrain is super short, and with the 26 episodes they already have there is no way they can make another 22-26 for a season two. People need to realize that. I thought Refrain would be like AS, then suddenly I'm at the credits five hours in and I'm like, "What the fuck?" It's an excellent series with a great story, but they can do all the routes + Refrain in season one. EX routes probably in a mini series or OVA, but Saya's route simply can't be done without being after the series is over as a special or something. If anyone truly wants to know why, here. I'm sorry, back I disagree on the whole "Refrain is so short that it can be fit into 3 episodes". Like I said before, 3-4 episodes are 1-1.3 hours. There is no way to cram in 5 hours worth of text into a 1-1.3 hour anime. Actually, this is what's happening to the character routes but those exist mostly to show hints about the secret of the world. Refrain on the other hand, needs to be handled with care. Refrain is the core of the LB! story and thus needs to be fleshed out to tie loose ends. I really don't understand why you think Refrain could be crammed in in 3 episodes. Why do you think it's plausible for cramming in the best and the most dramatic route? Given how JC Staff received initial backlashes including "Oh, it's not kyoani, JC will screw LB!", don't you think that they would at least present everything as best as they can? And trust me, putting Refrain this season will make many LB! vn fans associate JC Staff and the staff that worked on LB with failure. Cutting out the pov is just a no. They can take some things out but some parts are crucial (Masato explains what really happened, Kengo explains what happened in Rin2 and his true feelings, Kyosuke heavily spoils the big reveal. Honestly, the big impact moments on each of the boy's episodes are in their respective POV's. And we're not asking for a 22-26 episode season two. That's really pushing it for Refrain. We're asking for a 13 episode max season two, possibly with Rin2 attatched. I honestly think it's just you that's thinking that vanilla LB! should be finished in one season. |
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| Great news. But I think they planned this all along. Little Busters: Refrain. Make it into a 2-hours movie. |
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dizzyworld2 said: Like I said before, 3-4 episodes are 1-1.3 hours. There is no way to cram in 5 hours worth of text into a 1-1.3 hour anime. Actually this is quite easy, especially for Refrain. Remember: wishbook said: Great news. But I think they planned this all along. Little Busters: Refrain. Make it into a 2-hours movie. A 2 hour long movie of Masato smashing stuff? No thank you. ClannadIsLove is correct in saying Refrain can be compressed into 3 episodes. Given the increase in pace in episode 4, they'll easily finish the regular character routes and refrain within 26 episodes. |
ryuu_zer0 said: ClannadIsLove is correct in saying Refrain can be compressed into 3 episodes. Given the increase in pace in episode 4, they'll easily finish the regular character routes and refrain within 26 episodes. You should analyze this first before stating LB can finish it as a whole in just 1 season. dtshyk said: "We know it's impossible to cover the whole story with the current pace. We have promised to animate the entire scenario of the game. We know 26 episodes is too short." On the first sentence, they mean either it's slow pace or fast pace, they already admit that they couldn't cover the whole story in just a single season. Which means, whole story = Refrain is inlcuded. On the second sentence, Sa-chan_ said: It may also conclude that they will animate trivial scenes like Muscle Sensation, Battle Rankings, Kick In The Can and many more and the possibility those that I mentioned will be on this season is high. So Refrain on this season isn't possible. On the third sentence, it's clearly obvious and understandable enough. For those people who are insisting that the whole story of LB can finished on this single season, why don't you try to read the news again, get the pieces of information and analyze it very well? Even those people who played the VN yet they hate it could even understand the news very well. |
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WoofSadaharu said: Will they let KyoAni handle this "continuation"? Please? I would agree that KyoAni's offering this season has been far more entertaining than Little Busters. Little Busters for 4 episodes has been just not funny. Not funny AT ALL. I maybe a smiled a grand total of 3 times over the course of 4 episodes. Most of the time, when the characters are trying to be funny, I'm just thinking, "This is stupid. But I see what you tried to do there..." Just like the end of episode 1, when Rin was trying to get girls to join the team. That was honestly just lame... |
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| Kinniku yay yay! 26+ Rin2-Refrain+Bonus? |
| There's a lot of stuff here so I will just explain. NO SPOILERS - In Refrain, yes it may be five hours but as I have said before, you literally do this: - Riki does something - You watch EVERYTHING you just did from Masato's point of view - Riki does another thing - You watch everything through Kengo's view - Riki does some more stuff - You watch everything through Kyousuke's point of view And so on and so forth. For anyone wondering, again with no spoilers, by having us read from their POV we see their thoughts and parts of the plot are explained. But they're not going to make us watch the EXACT same shit again just so they can have one voice over that explains something in one scene and another in another scene. So they can easily cut two hours or so out of that, and therefore do Refrain in 2-3 episodes. Maybe 4. Sa-Chan, until I see the words "Refrain will be in season one" or "Refrain will not be in season one," I will not believe any of your interpretations. Nothing is set in stone and everything we are saying is just how we have INTERPRETED it. Therefore, you don't know and neither do I. They can't fit the story into 26 episodes, but since they didn't say "it will be two seasons" or ANYTHING of the sort talking about more regular episodes, I think they just mean the EX routes since it IS story. They're avoiding the topic when they could and normally would just flat out say it. - I think that there is no place to adapt Saya's path until the series ends (meaning an OVA or movie) - We have to remember that they said they simply cannot put everything from the VN into the game. So the whole kick the can game may be out. The one thing no one on here is considering is what WON'T EVER be in the series because it just isn't important enough. - Ryuu replied to the person (with Haruka as their avatar) for me so that answers that... My biggest problem is that, with Refrain repeating a LOT of stuff because of the changing point of views it really is too fucking short. People on here are like "IT'S GONNA BE AN AFTER STORY SORT OF THING!" when it won't. It simply is NOT that long. And last (I skimmed your post, Sa-Chan and am trying to answer faithfully everything) the reason I say that they shouldn't do Saya's route (another reason anyway) after Refrain (as opposed to an OVA released on the Blu Ray or something) is that Honestly, I don't see the point in discussing what might happen. We should just talk about the episodes we see. Arguing over something we can't change like this is pointless. And yeah, I was asking you (Sa-Chan) if you read the VN. You act like you have, but some of the things you say make me think you haven't. Let's just stop interpreting what this shit company will do and just wait and see what happens. |
ClannadIsLove said: I want to reply a wall of text but I'll only say this to you: The news is pretty simple and understandable enough. Don't try to look it on the other way. You're making it more complicated. I'll take your whole post as subjective because you're not basing it to the news. You're just basing it on your point of view. Okaaay, let's say I haven't played the VN, STILL the news is pretty simple and understandable. Your whole statement contradicts to the news. Also, about Saya, I don't know what the heck are you talking about but what I'm saying is that they can make another series for the 3 EX paths(Yes, including Saya's) AFTER Refrain. An OVA or Movie about her would butcher her story. And I'm going to ask this question again: dtshyk said: We know 26 episodes is too short. Can you please tell me what's the meaning of this simple sentence hmmm? I don't care if Refrain is too short or what. Just tell me what does that sentence mean TO YOU. |
TennoujiNov 4, 2012 6:27 AM
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zeroyuki92 said: Kinniku yay yay! 26+ Rin2-Refrain+Bonus? Seems like that's the case now xDD |
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| ClannadIsLove, could you please put that in spoiler? That's still a heavy spoiler, you know? Especially for someone who still in the middle of LittleBusters! routes but already saw some clues presented (like myself), that says a lot. |
| I'm soo happy to hear about this! I can't wait now. And now I'm not going to be as annoyed about this crazy pace. |
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| what woud the opening/ending be for second season? im guessing the ed will be song for friends. maybe little busters jumper ver. for op? |
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Inver said: Do not want. JC Staff worst than Gonzo. Don't watch then and take your bitching elsewhere. |
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blubberflub said: I prefer the op for the second season (hopefully) to be the ex version so what woud the opening/ending be for second season? im guessing the ed will be song for friends. maybe little busters jumper ver. for op? I wonder if they will change the op after 15 eps or use the same op for the whole 26 eps. |
egnaro315 said: blubberflub said: I prefer the op for the second season (hopefully) to be the ex version so what woud the opening/ending be for second season? im guessing the ed will be song for friends. maybe little busters jumper ver. for op? I personally would be interested in a completely new op. IMO, having little busters as the op for another season may get a bit old. (though not boring, it is an awesome song) But seeing clannad's toki wo kizamu uta and how epic it was, a surprise song would be something to look forward to. :) I'm suggesting a new song because the other songs are definitely not suited to be an op song. Rather, they are songs fitted for insert or end of route songs. |
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eltonsu999 said: egnaro315 said: blubberflub said: I prefer the op for the second season (hopefully) to be the ex version so what woud the opening/ending be for second season? im guessing the ed will be song for friends. maybe little busters jumper ver. for op? I personally would be interested in a completely new op. IMO, having little busters as the op for another season may get a bit old. (though not boring, it is an awesome song) But seeing clannad's toki wo kizamu uta and how epic it was, a surprise song would be something to look forward to. :) I'm suggesting a new song because the other songs are definitely not suited to be an op song. Rather, they are songs fitted for insert or end of route songs. It would be refreshing to listen to a new op with a new vocal. Rita's voice is great but I realize she does all the vocals in little busters... now that I think about it, little busters without Rita seems weird :L. But if Lia sings in the new OP, that will be epic especially with inserted Refrain scenes. >< |
egnaro315 said: [ I prefer the op for the second season (hopefully) to be the ex version I don't see this one fitting... Given the definition of "Ecstasy" and the scenes from Refrain... |
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| we ll find out on ep 26, definitely want moar little busters! |
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| At the pace they are going, I'm not even sure if they'll be able to fit it into 39 episodes, especially if they plan on doing EX Routes. |
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| Oh my god...I was waiting for this! Now all they need is faster pacing!!! Need at least about 50 episodes |
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Vortiene said: Maybe they can put a lot more resources into the second season and make the animation as nice as sakurasou's (Since sakurasou will be done and they will hopefully decide to focus more on little busters season 2) I would really appreciate that. As it is currently the animation is a bit poor. I can watch the show happily but when I see sakurasou I think "can't they make it like that as well?" I guess they only have so much to work with at once though. It's been mentioned in this thread, the studio don't dictate how much resources are dedicated to a particular series, the sponsors do, and Sakurasou has more sponsors then Little Busters! so of course there are more resources dedicated to it. |
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Vortiene said: As it is currently the animation is a bit poor. After watching these 11 episodes, it seems like they might've put the animation priorities in reverse... Giving the last few episodes (and beyond that aka second season) most of the budget counting down to the first episodes which contain the least amount of budget. Well I could be wrong though, just speculating.. but no doubt the animation has improve significantly since the first few chunks of episodes. |
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RyanSaotome said: At the pace they are going, I'm not even sure if they'll be able to fit it into 39 episodes, especially if they plan on doing EX Routes. I don't know where do you get the 39 episodes unless that's just your assumption. And since they said they will adapt our favorite heroine's story, it's pretty clear that they will adapt the 3 EX paths. Adapting Sasami's is already confirmed before this was aired. |
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| And the confirmation is done and cleared out. Great now to wait and see what studio will do this. I am hoping for ARMS, if they are doing the hentai/ love serious parts ARMS or the same people that did Yosuga no Sora. I want to kind of clear out the easy stuff and hope for the more serious. Cause everyone says Refrain is more serious. |
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