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| Did you click on the spoiler? Story > Art/animation. But with a guarantee to be good story, why not complain about quality of animation if it could have been better in the first place? |
Takana_no_Hana said: Gash_V-D_Hetchum said: People are looking for errors/bad screenshots in this adaptation. If someone were to thoroughly go through Air, Kanon, Clannad and Angel Beats, there'll probably be a few blunders too. JC staff will correct all mistakes for the Blu Rays/Dvds. If they go throughly Air, Kanon, Clannad, AB!, it only makes things worst for J.C honestly. Did you see Ufotable or Shaft handles with their products? TVs version is good enough, and it will be improved in BD/Dvd, not to correct mistakes, but to improve on the quality. @Sa-chan: it does not bother you, doesn't mean that it will not bother me. Cause we have different opinions. @akutasame94: Sorry but I'm not interested in your works, I've been drawing since I was a little kid. Okay I did take a look at it, and I find this is your best drawing: http://dulex94.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d4j3e65 the eyes are too simple tbh. You showed yours so It's only fair for me to do the same. Also if you are drawing since you were really young you should be a lot better. I am not talented for drawing at all and I can do this girl better than this (and I learned only by hard work) |
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| Remove the KEY logo and it becomes a plain generic Slice-of-Life anime. Let's wait then. *grabs popcorn* |
"Your taste is shit cause you like what I hate. Believe me I have 1000 cartoons that I rated with less than 5."  |
Takana_no_Hana said: Did you click on the spoiler? Yes, I did. I'm saying it's nothing to brag about. It looks like something a 13 year old who likes to trace anime pictures he finds on the internet would do. |
| Do you know Oyashiro-sama? |
Cashdaxxx said: Remove the KEY logo and it becomes a plain generic Slice-of-Life anime. Let's wait then. *grabs popcorn* You'll see when routes start. It's better than generic slice of life anime. |
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-KamioRika- said: Takana_no_Hana said: Did you click on the spoiler? Yes, I did. I'm saying it's nothing to brag about. It looks like something a 13 year old who likes to trace anime pictures he finds on the internet would do. I'm not bragging about it, I replied to akutasame94 cause he told me first that he could draw, so I did the same. You sound like a fanboy trying to defend J.C works, oh well, go to SAO forum and ask those who hate the show but still watching it. Meanwhile, I'm a fan of Key, I don't hate J.C, but I just don't like their quality, that's it. I simply voice out my opinion, and criticisms towards their animation quality. |
Takana_no_Hana said: Gash_V-D_Hetchum said: People are looking for errors/bad screenshots in this adaptation. If someone were to thoroughly go through Air, Kanon, Clannad and Angel Beats, there'll probably be a few blunders too. JC staff will correct all mistakes for the Blu Rays/Dvds. If they go throughly Air, Kanon, Clannad, AB!, it only makes things worst for J.C honestly. Did you see Ufotable or Shaft handles with their products? TVs version is good enough, and it will be improved in BD/Dvd, not to correct mistakes, but to improve on the quality. @Sa-chan: it does not bother you, doesn't mean that it will not bother me. Cause we have different opinions. @akutasame94: Sorry but I'm not interested in your works, I've been drawing since I was a little kid. Okay I did take a look at it, and I find this is your best drawing: http://dulex94.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d4j3e65 the eyes are too simple tbh. And yet I believe it's not among my best. At that time I had problems with drawing circles xD My fave among all these is this one http://dulex94.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d4j3cu8 Mostly because I got compliments from Mark Crilley with whom I do chat often on twitter. He helped me a lot. |
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| Really? People are bashing each other's artwork now? Oh lord. |
 What "Adolescence" do you have? Do you remember "Childhood"? The irreplaceable one existed there. |
Gash_V-D_Hetchum said: That doesn't mean JC Staff can't correct errors and make improvements. You also said JC Staff does a lot of anime per season, so that automatically means they can't compete against those that only do a few. Shaft? Bakemonogatari TV Version Just search their past projects and you will see on your own. I don't want to waste my time pointing out how terrible has J.C become. And look, in 2 years recently, Did J.C have any "great" anime like other studio? Nope. The only decent adaptation from them was Shana ss3(by decent, I mean decent among their works, not real decent compare to other shows). That's it. Did you know why Key fan were making a ruckus when they heard J.C was gonna adapt LB! instead of other studio? |
Takana_no_HanaOct 7, 2012 10:12 AM
Amutofan123 said: Really? People are bashing each other's artwork now? Oh lord. No, we just share are observations and constructive comments :) I respect every work as long as it is done with care and hard work. I am not too fond of talented people who think everything will come without working. For everything you need only one talent. Talent not to give up. |
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akutasame94 said: And yet I believe it's not among my best. At that time I had problems with drawing circles xD My fave among all these is this one http://dulex94.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d4j3cu8 Mostly because I got compliments from Mark Crilley with whom I do chat often on twitter. He helped me a lot. I actually like your realism one the best because of the shading. You're doing pretty good. I can tell you are improving from looking through your gallery. I would try darkening the pictures a bit though and shading more. Have you taken any art classes? Learning the basics helps tremendously. I would also recommend drawing less anime and more other stuff. Getting out of your comfort zone and being bold is a great way to improve your art. @Takana_no_Hana Okay, so 1)I'm a chick 2) Actually, the only other JC Staff show I've cared for was Toradora, so I'm not a fangirl* trying to defend the company. Also, if you enjoy the story enough, then the animation is pretty easy to overlook. |
| Do you know Oyashiro-sama? |
| The animation/art in this is good if you don't go snooping around purposefully just to get a bad screencap. Cashdaxxx said: Remove the KEY logo and it becomes a plain generic Slice-of-Life anime. Let's wait then. *grabs popcorn* Don't see what's so 'generic slice-of-life' about 5 childhood friends(4 of which are guys) starting a baseball team, making fun of each other and enjoying their school life.If the girls were already around I'd give you that, but yeah, stuff is going to get real heavy real soon. |
AphatusOct 7, 2012 10:27 AM
-KamioRika- said: akutasame94 said: And yet I believe it's not among my best. At that time I had problems with drawing circles xD My fave among all these is this one http://dulex94.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d4j3cu8 Mostly because I got compliments from Mark Crilley with whom I do chat often on twitter. He helped me a lot. I actually like your realism one the best because of the shading. You're doing pretty good. I can tell you are improving from looking through your gallery. I would try darkening the pictures a bit though and shading more. Have you taken any art classes? Learning the basics helps tremendously. I would also recommend drawing less anime and more other stuff. Getting out of your comfort zone and being bold is a great way to improve your art. @Takana_no_Hana Okay, so 1)I'm a chick 2) Actually, the only other JC Staff show I've cared for was Toradora, so I'm not a fangirl* trying to defend the company. Also, if you enjoy the story enough, then the animation is pretty easy to overlook. I never took any classes, I am not to fond of those nor I have money for that :D Right now I am doing mostly realism, I am actually in the middle of a very important project :) I am also working perspective and anatomy. All by myself. I spend 2-3 hours a day on drawing and the same amount of time on writing. Then I take guitar and relax a little. Right now I am sick so I can't even hold pencil properly xD Oh and I forgot to thank you for your compliments :D |
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akutasame94 said: Amutofan123 said: Really? People are bashing each other's artwork now? Oh lord. No, we just share are observations and constructive comments :) I respect every work as long as it is done with care and hard work. I am not too fond of talented people who think everything will come without working. For everything you need only one talent. Talent not to give up. Oh, I wasn't referring to you specifically. You're cool. It was Miss Kamiorika's comments on the other user's picture that I was referring to. |
| What "Adolescence" do you have? Do you remember "Childhood"? The irreplaceable one existed there. |
| I'm not too fond of the foreign style, so I don't really know who is Mark Crilley, he's a famous comic illustrator but I'm not interested in him since we're in the world of manga/anime from Jap. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRzrjtwUUKo Here's one of the speed version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqXfkCaQaVQ&feature=related |
Takana_no_HanaOct 7, 2012 10:32 AM
Takana_no_Hana said: I'm not too fond of the foreign style, so I don't really know who is Mark Crilley, he's a famous comic illustrator but I'm not interested in him since we're in the world of manga/anime from Jap. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRzrjtwUUKo I love the way she uses both hands. I just recently heard of that and I started practicing it. Fanta drawing in my gallery was done by left hand (I am right handed) :) Mark Crilley is quite famous manga artist. He spent a lot of time in Japan and he is one of my idols. He loves looking at different styles and trying to replicate them and that way he is learning even more. |
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Amutofan123 said: Oh, I wasn't referring to you specifically. You're cool. It was Miss Kamiorika's comments on the other user's picture that I was referring to. Rude. >:/ haha, you know i love you though. Takana_no_Hana said: I'm not too fond of the foreign style, so I don't really know who is Mark Crilley, he's a famous comic illustrator but I'm not interested in him since we're in the world of manga/anime from Jap. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRzrjtwUUKo He teaches some good basics though, and that is something you need to be a good artist. Just because you are doing an anime/manga style doesn't mean you should JUST draw in that style, or ignore the basic principles of art. |
| Do you know Oyashiro-sama? |
| Are we still talking about Little Busters!? |
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| Mark Crilley's just famous in America tbh. And although hes a famous comic creator/illustrator, when it comes down to manga/anime style, he's like a apprentice and still learning a lot. That person you're watching is a pro artist, illustrator who draws for living. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sgi2ZZSrF5k&feature=relmfu this one helps you measure the eyes distances. -KamioRika- said: He teaches some good basics though, and that is something you need to be a good artist. Just because you are doing an anime/manga style doesn't mean you should JUST draw in that style, or ignore the basic principles of art. Not sure, but when you exceed to a high level, you don't need to care about the basic principles much( cause it's already into your bones), it all comes down to style in anime/manga. And it's anime/manga we're talking to, why bother with the realistic arts? |
Takana_no_HanaOct 7, 2012 10:46 AM
| So yeah... Little Busters.... |
| What "Adolescence" do you have? Do you remember "Childhood"? The irreplaceable one existed there. |
Takana_no_Hana said: He's just famous in America tbh. And although hes a famous comic creator/illustrator, when it comes down to manga/anime style, he's like a apprentice and still learning a lot. That person you're watching is a pro artist, illustrator who draws for living. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sgi2ZZSrF5k&feature=relmfu this one helps you measure the eyes distances. Lets just say it this way: I may be the best writer in my school and all my prizes may serve as proof, but I still have a lot to learn, I have to study so much. It doesn't matter where you are from or where you are famous. And thanks for these videos I'll check them out. And don't get me wrong, I don't think of myself as the best, I just gave an example. And I think we should sop going off topic. We can continue by leaving messages at each others profiles :D If you have anything else to say that is ;) |
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| oh yeah, this was supposed to be a thread about Little Busters,wasn't it? I loved the episode! The animation wasn't great but it wasn't bad either. everyone was really funny! Takana_no_Hana said: -KamioRika- said: He teaches some good basics though, and that is something you need to be a good artist. Just because you are doing an anime/manga style doesn't mean you should JUST draw in that style, or ignore the basic principles of art. Not sure, but when you exceed to a high level, you don't need to care about the basic principles much( cause it's already into your bones), it all comes down to style in anime/manga. No, no, no, no, no. Anime is stylized, but one should still know about shading, coloring, perspective, composition, texture, and proportion. Exceeding to a high level doesn't mean you stop caring about those things, it means you have mastered those things. And it doesn't look like you have mastered those things. An anime girl in a sexy pose with little shading and no background is not exceeding to a high level. |
| Do you know Oyashiro-sama? |
-KamioRika- said: No, no, no, no, no. Anime is stylized, but one should still know about shading, coloring, perspective, composition, texture, and proportion. Exceeding to a high level doesn't mean you stop caring about those things, it means you have mastered those things. And it doesn't look like you have mastered those things. An anime girl in a sexy pose with little shading and no background is not exceeding to a high level. I didn't say anything about my drawing being the best, or exceeding those things. But why bother with realism in art styles? It's anime style and there fore, it's different from the realistic arts. Although it still uses some of the basic principles like shading, coloring, etc to make it becomes realistic BUT in a different way compare to realism. While the earliest known Japanese animation dates to 1917, and many original Japanese animations were produced in the ensuing decades, the characteristic anime style developed in the 1960s—notably with the work of Osamu Tezuka—and became known outside Japan in the 1980s. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anime And believe me, we're in an anime/manga forum and most of them are unrealistic in many ways. |
Takana_no_HanaOct 7, 2012 10:52 AM
Gash_V-D_Hetchum said: Rofl. Let me say something then. Masato's voice sucks. It makes him sound like he is stupid. What you didn't like about it? It seemed normal for me. |
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Gash_V-D_Hetchum said: Niyawa said: Are we still talking about Little Busters!? Amutofan123 said: So yeah... Little Busters.... Rofl. Let me say something then. Masato's voice sucks. It makes him sound like he is stupid. He is somewhat stupid though. |
Takana_no_Hana said: -KamioRika- said: No, no, no, no, no. Anime is stylized, but one should still know about shading, coloring, perspective, composition, texture, and proportion. Exceeding to a high level doesn't mean you stop caring about those things, it means you have mastered those things. And it doesn't look like you have mastered those things. An anime girl in a sexy pose with little shading and no background is not exceeding to a high level. I didn't say anything about my drawing being the best, or exceeding those things. But why bother with realism in art styles? It's anime style and there fore, it's different from the realistic arts. Although it still uses some of the basic principles like shading, coloring, etc to make it becomes realistic BUT in a different way compare to realism. While the earliest known Japanese animation dates to 1917, and many original Japanese animations were produced in the ensuing decades, the characteristic anime style developed in the 1960s—notably with the work of Osamu Tezuka—and became known outside Japan in the 1980s. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anime And believe me, we're in an anime/manga forum and most of them are unrealistic in many ways. Knowing those principles doesn't = realism. Those things are important in WHATEVER style you are drawing in, unless you are going for something totally abstract. |
| Do you know Oyashiro-sama? |
| Not for me |
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-KamioRika- said: Takana_no_Hana said: -KamioRika- said: No, no, no, no, no. Anime is stylized, but one should still know about shading, coloring, perspective, composition, texture, and proportion. Exceeding to a high level doesn't mean you stop caring about those things, it means you have mastered those things. And it doesn't look like you have mastered those things. An anime girl in a sexy pose with little shading and no background is not exceeding to a high level. I didn't say anything about my drawing being the best, or exceeding those things. But why bother with realism in art styles? It's anime style and there fore, it's different from the realistic arts. Although it still uses some of the basic principles like shading, coloring, etc to make it becomes realistic BUT in a different way compare to realism. While the earliest known Japanese animation dates to 1917, and many original Japanese animations were produced in the ensuing decades, the characteristic anime style developed in the 1960s—notably with the work of Osamu Tezuka—and became known outside Japan in the 1980s. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anime And believe me, we're in an anime/manga forum and most of them are unrealistic in many ways. Knowing those principles doesn't = realism. Those things are important in WHATEVER style you are drawing in, unless you are going for something totally abstract. Come on... Stop discussing art xD I mean it is interesting to read, but admins will kill us xD |
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-KamioRika- said: Knowing those principles doesn't = realism. Those things are important in WHATEVER style you are drawing in, unless you are going for something totally abstract. Fine ... just look at those pics I posted on your profile, I don't want to show off anyway ... Style always come first, then applying those principles into it. Or at least that's the way I draw. |
Takana_no_HanaOct 7, 2012 11:08 AM
| Guys, I love art and all... but this thread is supposed to be about the first episode of Little Busters. Not art. I suggest moving the conversation to your profiles or something. |
| What "Adolescence" do you have? Do you remember "Childhood"? The irreplaceable one existed there. |
Gash_V-D_Hetchum said: Pathetic attempt at sarcasm. It fits him perfectly. He isn't just somewhat stupid, he is or a better term would be "silly"? Oh, I felt that too, I guess it just didn't get that much to me. If anything I didn't like Rin's voice, trying to imply cuteness, a more mature tone would have been better especially for her looks and personality so far, just my two cents though. |
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| I truly, honestly, have no idea what I should think or feel about this series. I guess they've got me roped in for the next episode, at least. |
Amutofan123 said: Guys, I love art and all... but this thread is supposed to be about the first episode of Little Busters. Not art. I suggest moving the conversation to your profiles or something. Well you played VN, didn't you? She has quite a similar voice. She just screams around or she is quite XD |
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akutasame94 said: Amutofan123 said: Guys, I love art and all... but this thread is supposed to be about the first episode of Little Busters. Not art. I suggest moving the conversation to your profiles or something. Well you played VN, didn't you? She has quite a similar voice. She just screams around or she is quite XD I think you quoted the wrong person. xD |
| What "Adolescence" do you have? Do you remember "Childhood"? The irreplaceable one existed there. |
Amutofan123 said: akutasame94 said: Amutofan123 said: Guys, I love art and all... but this thread is supposed to be about the first episode of Little Busters. Not art. I suggest moving the conversation to your profiles or something. Well you played VN, didn't you? She has quite a similar voice. She just screams around or she is quite XD I think you quoted the wrong person. xD I think so too xD Damn, I was sure I clicked right quote sign xD |
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| Err...Guys, could you keep the out of topic somewhere else? Or maybe create something like "Little Busters General Thread" or something like that. It's hard to read all of the thread when some pages are filled with completely OOT talks :< Anyway, finally catching the subs. Kinda rushed, cheap animation, some bad sound direction, but still pretty great. Kudos to script writer for faithful script (for now), good character design (at least for me) and good remix of OP and ED. Also, for those who are busy "defending" LB : Let those who dislike alone, it's their loss. |
| That was an enjoyable first episiode. It was good just introducing the gang and getting the viewer used to who they were before dropping in one of the girls at the end of the episode. Loving the feel and 'breezy' nature a lot of Visual Key ports seem to have! |
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| Nice first episode. They actually adaped it pretty well. Not the train wreck I expected. Keep it up. |
| I expected a lot more, and I expected better animation quality. It should get way better or this is just overhyped as shit since everyone is talking how good it is. I hope it's the first! It wasn't bad, I just expected more. |
I almost never read discussions after I made my post, if you want to reply PM me or post on my profile page. |
| Animation was good but the seiyuu's was terrible especially for Natsume Kyousuke his va its not fitting for him,final judgement drop. |
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Icebreaker93 said: Animation was good but the seiyuu's was terrible especially for Natsume Kyousuke his va its not fitting for him,final judgement drop. wat |
| Wafuu~ |
Icebreaker93 said: Animation was good but the seiyuu's was terrible especially for Natsume Kyousuke his va its not fitting for him,final judgement drop. This is probably the funniest Little Busters comment I have read. Kudos to you. |
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