Muv-Luv Alternative: Total Eclipse Episode 5 Discussion

Blitzschnell said:
future spoilers

Tenchi_Ryu said:
As much as some of you dislike Yuuya's attitude, many of us also can't stand Yui. It goes both ways cause people don't like bitchy characters. Especially when many feel there are better methods to getting closer to him. Personally, I feel she could have let her skill do the talking, and showed him from the beginning, but she took the immature route and went back and forth, making them both look hardheaded. The American friend is absolutely correct, they are A LOT alike, whether they want to admit it or not. So if both of them warm up and develop their character, it will be good for both. Personally though, I love Yuuya's cockyness. Too many shows where the main character is a bitch, useless and just utterly pathetic (i.e. no balls). Yuuya's challenging her, and I love it.

As for the sword fight, it doesn't matter if she might be stronger, its just like a Karate match imo. Even if the person who was downed is better, they were still downed. So of course Yuuya fans will enjoy that. Cause lets be honest, if Yui knocked him on his ass (which I honestly was expecting), the Yui fans would have been like "finally" and loving it.

And Yuuya > Yui :P

Tanta said:


That's what annoys me about the series so far, the American bashing and also the hate towards the Japanese from Bridges. To me...it just does not seem very realistic. They really need to take a vacation to America and see the melting pot.

All in all, decent episode it didn't piss me off as bad as Ep. 4 did.

OrochiPL said:
Yui's so perfect, why do i have to keep seeing Yuuya on screen so much? Sure, he got his act together by the end of episode, but he still annoys the hell out of me just by being there.

Yuuya’s attitude comes from many different factors, of which his hatred of the Japanese is just one piece. He has serious problems with authority, period. He’s been sent to Alaska precisely because his superiors know he’s a problem soldier, and want to wash their hands of him. At one point, when thinking about how he can get along better with Yui, he ruefully admits to himself that if he were capable of adjusting his attitude to please his superior officer, he wouldn’t have been sent to this dump to begin with. He’s probably not wrong when he says to Vincent that this transfer is something of a demotion. In fact, part of the reason he feels free to cop an attitude towards Yui is because, in his eyes, he can’t possibly be punished any further than he already has been.

As for Yui herself, her problem is that everything she sees and does is through a Japanese perspective. Not only does she live in an Imperial Japan that is surely heavy on nationalism, she belongs to an elite samurai lineage. That colors everything she does. She opposed Project XFJ to begin with, not wanting foreign input into a Japanese TSF – and she especially opposes having an American test pilot rather than a Japanese one. So she naturally latches onto Yuuya’s Japanese heritage, hoping to mold him into a “proper” Japanese pilot. She has absolutely no concept of the tolerance for other nations’ cultures and beliefs that must exist in a mixed-nation UN base. So it’s not really a surprise that nobody else seems to like her much. Yuuya quickly bonds with his fellow pilots in Argos Flight, but after a month on base, it doesn’t seem like Yui is friends with ANYBODY. I find that this quirk makes her a lot more likeable as a character. If everybody else simply backed her up and agreed with her, she would become very annoying very quickly, and the show itself would become unbearably preachy. What makes her tolerable is the fact that everybody else sees her as a huge pain, which helps make it clear that she’s not nearly as right as she seems to think she is.

Naxrrhid said:
LMAO, Yui was simply no match at all for Yuuya..., he is a god among all of those pilots and Yui could never be anywhere close to his level!