| Berserk is nice and all but, I think David Production should focus next in Steel Ball Run (Jojo Part 7) first. Then after that Berserk since JoJolion (Jojo Part 8) hasn't concluded in the manga yet. |
Persona111 said: if they can do jojo then they can do berserkNormalExploiter said: yes they have. 2016 s1 was bad but it did have some good looking scenes that lasted for couple of seconds. if 2016 can have couple seconds good scenes then david productions can make the whole berserk amazing. if they made jojo part 5 like that then yes, they can make berserk in anime way. it doesnt have to be manga way but anime way. something like jojo's bizarre anime. it just needs to look amazing as anime not as manga Man, do you have any true clue on animation? Berserk 2016 staff was quite bad, but some good looking moments of photography and 3D animation are still something expected. 3D animation is easy to make work in dynamic scenes (the problem are scenes that require character expressions), so the staff was able to make those moments thanks to the advantages of CGI. The thing is that Berserk, to be perfectly executed, would need either a good CGI or a great animation team able to animate lots of complex fighting scenes with quality (the one anime that comes closer to that recently is Vinland Saga). David Production doesn't have a great CGI department at all, that can be seen in the recent 2nd season of Hataraku Saibou. I would say their CGI technology is below average. As well, JoJo animation is really lacking, and it's based rather on stylized key-frames than in fluid movements. Even the greatest animation work DP has worked on, that is Enen no Shouboutai, was only possible thanks to the work of animators from studios Shaft and Bones, and when Shaft animators left in the 2nd season, the visual quality dropped drastically. They could make JoJo look cool? Yes, they did. But that's thanks to the work of director Naokatsu Tsuda on embracing the style of the manga at its fullest, making short animation cuts interconnected with a lot of static frames, and make it work thanks to the kanjis (that are rather a manga technique), the color inversion and the over the top posing. That's what makes JoJo stylish and iconic. Nevertheless, JoJo is a shonen-ish series with characters that are meant to be cool and charming, not deep and well-writen like Berserk's. Berserk is a seinen dark fantasy, with philosofical shades and visceral scenes, together with numerous brutally-depicted fights. The stilyzed artwork of JoJo could work for impact frames, but neither the background style, nor the direction could be applied in a similar way. They would have to be much serious and detailed. And the most important issue is the following: DP is lacking on great key animators, specially if we consider JoJo's staff. Could they call animators from other studios, just like in Enen no Shouboutai? They could. Would it be enough? I don't think so. I guess that not even Mappa is in condition to adapt Berserk well (maybe Hayashi's team with a lot of production time would be able to make a blend of 2D and CGI that would work on Berserk, but I'm not quite sure if it would go well). Then, DP doesn't even stand a chance |
Persona111 said: what you are saying is nonesense. jojo used to be the anime that is impossible to animate and now they are even doing part 6. jojo doesnt look same like in manga but it looks indentical.NormalExploiter said: if they can do jojo then they can do berserk Guess you didn't read anything, or if you did, you ignored it in your answer, but Berserk is much harder to do than JoJo 1997 was really good but animation wasnt that good. if 1997 can make amazing adaptation then david productions can make the entire arc 1 black swordsman |
Persona111 said: 1997 worked out. movies also worked out but i think 1997 was the best. if they could just do the entire thing... i would love it...NormalExploiter said: what you are saying is nonesense. jojo used to be the anime that is impossible to animate and now they are even doing part 6. jojo doesnt look same like in manga but it looks indentical. 1997 was really good but animation wasnt that good. if 1997 can make amazing adaptation then david productions can make the entire arc 1 black swordsman I explained about that. JoJo is stylish and iconic as fuck, it embraces the 'motion manga' concept and takes it to the maximum, with devices such as the poses, color inversion and the kanjis on the screen. I just don't think that any of those would ever work in the much more serious, much more visceral, Berserk adaptation. |
Persona111 said: i wasnt talking about old ovas. i was talking about berserkNormalExploiter said: 1997 worked out. movies also worked out but i think 1997 was the best. if they could just do the entire thing... i would love it... But the old OVAs weren't even made by David Productions, they were made by studio APPP |
blueoe said: Author will die before it gets completed. Any studio well aware of this, so they'll never adapt this long adult series. As for jojo part 7, david currently working on netflix's cgi anime, spriggan, they said that they are using newest technology. When they release it, We will see if they ready for horse animation issue or not Damn this post hit hard. |
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BoQupp said: NormalExploiter said: part 7 will take too much because of horses, some animators talked about it and said it is too hard to do it. I BELIVE they can do berserk. berserk is really, really good Don't they pretty much have to animate part 7 though? It'd be super unsatisfying for people who watch part 6 if they didn't. Why would they need to animate part 7? The OG story ended at part 6. |
Shozaro said: BoQupp said: Don't they pretty much have to animate part 7 though? It'd be super unsatisfying for people who watch part 6 if they didn't. Why would they need to animate part 7? The OG story ended at part 6. Okay, and? That doesn't mean they have to stop it there. |
Oongbuh said: Okay, and? That doesn't mean they have to stop it there. I am not againts adapting part 7. I think i missed what i'm trying to address in my previous post. BoQupp said: Don't they pretty much have to animate part 7 though? It'd be super unsatisfying for people who watch part 6 if they didn't. ^What i meant was that Since Steel Ball Run is set in a new continuity, there is no real obligation or necessity to adapt part 7. Since the story of the original JoJo universe pretty much ended in Stone Ocean, i don't see how could people be dissatisfied if the following part were left unadapted. Especially considering that SBR is a in an entirely disconnected timeline. Yes, DP can still go on and adapt part 7,8, & 9 and if they are capable and willing to. I'm just lining out the possibility of them not adapting those parts. |
Shozaro said: you said part 9? part 9 doesnt existOongbuh said: Okay, and? That doesn't mean they have to stop it there. I am not againts adapting part 7. I think i missed what i'm trying to address in my previous post. BoQupp said: Don't they pretty much have to animate part 7 though? It'd be super unsatisfying for people who watch part 6 if they didn't. ^What i meant was that Since Steel Ball Run is set in a new continuity, there is no real obligation or necessity to adapt part 7. Since the story of the original JoJo universe pretty much ended in Stone Ocean, i don't see how could people be dissatisfied if the following part were left unadapted. Especially considering that SBR is a in an entirely disconnected timeline. Yes, DP can still go on and adapt part 7,8, & 9 and if they are capable and willing to. I'm just lining out the possibility of them not adapting those parts. |
| Damn this entire thread hits hard now. Well considering the uncertain future of the manga now, I seriously doubt it will get an anime any time soon, and that's pretty sad tbh. |
NormalExploiter said: you said part 9? part 9 doesnt exist Ah thats on me. I tend to screw up and accidentally omitting words. What i meant was " & 9 if Araki does it". CLADDAN said: Damn this entire thread hits hard now. Well considering the uncertain future of the manga now, I seriously doubt it will get an anime any time soon, and that's pretty sad tbh. After Miura's passing, i just hope Araki would be fit enough to finish part 8 & start part 9. If he decides to end JoJo at part 8 and retires, i wouldn't mind either. He already deserves it. |
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| No David Pro animation is pretty low budget. They care a lot about their anime, but if you see how Berserk 2016 was reviewed as well as AOT season 4 certain communities care a lot about animation quality. Compare an episode of JoJo Part 5 to Demon Slayer. There is a clear difference in frames per second, action and usage of lighting and colors. Berserk needs a million dollar studio to live up to the manga art |
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PlasmaAndroid said: david pro animation is not low budget. its pretty high. they have the entire team and expensive voice actors. the animation looks exactly like in the manga but more anime. they said the same thing for jojo before it got adaptation. comparing jojo part 5 to demon slaye? what do you mean by that? part 5 has probably the best animation in all of anime i have never seen a better animation in my life, it has all the colors from the manga and all the letters too. most animes dont have letters and dont look like a manga. usage of colors is one of the best things in jojo because it changes in dramatic scenes,No David Pro animation is pretty low budget. They care a lot about their anime, but if you see how Berserk 2016 was reviewed as well as AOT season 4 certain communities care a lot about animation quality. Compare an episode of JoJo Part 5 to Demon Slayer. There is a clear difference in frames per second, action and usage of lighting and colors. Berserk needs a million dollar studio to live up to the manga art your taste doesnt match the beauty of jojo so please dont say that the best things about jojo like, part 5 art style or usage of colors are bad because they are the things fans like the most. |
NormalKitten said: PlasmaAndroid said: david pro animation is not low budget. its pretty high. they have the entire team and expensive voice actors. the animation looks exactly like in the manga but more anime. they said the same thing for jojo before it got adaptation. comparing jojo part 5 to demon slaye? what do you mean by that? part 5 has probably the best animation in all of anime i have never seen a better animation in my life, it has all the colors from the manga and all the letters too. most animes dont have letters and dont look like a manga. usage of colors is one of the best things in jojo because it changes in dramatic scenes,No David Pro animation is pretty low budget. They care a lot about their anime, but if you see how Berserk 2016 was reviewed as well as AOT season 4 certain communities care a lot about animation quality. Compare an episode of JoJo Part 5 to Demon Slayer. There is a clear difference in frames per second, action and usage of lighting and colors. Berserk needs a million dollar studio to live up to the manga art your taste doesnt match the beauty of jojo so please dont say that the best things about jojo like, part 5 art style or usage of colors are bad because they are the things fans like the most. Part 5's animation is incredible, yes, but "best animation in all of anime"? I don't think you've seen any Ghibli, Ufotable, Kyoani, or Comix Wave anime if you made that statement. |
Oongbuh said: none of those anime copied the manga exactly like golden wind did. just search the panels and look at them in both anime and manga, its wonderful. ghibli doesnt even have a detailed body lines or anything, it has a simple kid's art style, ufotable looks like any other basic anime where a nose is a single dot. your taste is kinda perverted, not gonna lie, especially that you have majima in your favourites instead of character like guts.NormalKitten said: david pro animation is not low budget. its pretty high. they have the entire team and expensive voice actors. the animation looks exactly like in the manga but more anime. they said the same thing for jojo before it got adaptation. comparing jojo part 5 to demon slaye? what do you mean by that? part 5 has probably the best animation in all of anime i have never seen a better animation in my life, it has all the colors from the manga and all the letters too. most animes dont have letters and dont look like a manga. usage of colors is one of the best things in jojo because it changes in dramatic scenes, your taste doesnt match the beauty of jojo so please dont say that the best things about jojo like, part 5 art style or usage of colors are bad because they are the things fans like the most. Part 5's animation is incredible, yes, but "best animation in all of anime"? I don't think you've seen any Ghibli, Ufotable, Kyoani, or Comix Wave anime if you made that statement. |
| I’m not here to argue about David Productions animation quality, but I do believe that there are reasons beyond quality why David Productions wouldn’t adapt Berserk. It’s too messed up. Most studios avoid adapting stories that will be met with backlash and that won’t sell well. David Productions is not an exception. Children being burned/cleaved in half with a sword and intense rape aren’t on the priority list for animation studios and isn’t very appealing to the general audience. |
FlameAbleObject said: watch the stone ocean trailer that david productions made. it looks so detailed and there are all the letters from the manga. i think david pro is the closest if we think about it. they can change art style of animation as kentaro changed his own in the manga, they did the same for jojo. i think they are closest for adapting it.I’m not here to argue about David Productions animation quality, but I do believe that there are reasons beyond quality why David Productions wouldn’t adapt Berserk. It’s too messed up. Most studios avoid adapting stories that will be met with backlash and that won’t sell well. David Productions is not an exception. Children being burned/cleaved in half with a sword and intense rape aren’t on the priority list for animation studios and isn’t very appealing to the general audience. |
NormalKitten said: I agree, I think David Productions could animate Berserk. I just think they would have to censor a lot of things in the manga and that they wouldn’t be happy with animating Berserk like that.FlameAbleObject said: watch the stone ocean trailer that david productions made. it looks so detailed and there are all the letters from the manga. i think david pro is the closest if we think about it. they can change art style of animation as kentaro changed his own in the manga, they did the same for jojo. i think they are closest for adapting it.I’m not here to argue about David Productions animation quality, but I do believe that there are reasons beyond quality why David Productions wouldn’t adapt Berserk. It’s too messed up. Most studios avoid adapting stories that will be met with backlash and that won’t sell well. David Productions is not an exception. Children being burned/cleaved in half with a sword and intense rape aren’t on the priority list for animation studios and isn’t very appealing to the general audience. |
FlameAbleObject said: i think they should censor it the same way they censored jojo stuff and then publish the uncensored version like jojo got.NormalKitten said: I agree, I think David Productions could animate Berserk. I just think they would have to censor a lot of things in the manga and that they wouldn’t be happy with animating Berserk like that.watch the stone ocean trailer that david productions made. it looks so detailed and there are all the letters from the manga. i think david pro is the closest if we think about it. they can change art style of animation as kentaro changed his own in the manga, they did the same for jojo. i think they are closest for adapting it. |
| I hope they make the third (and final) season of Fire Force after part 6. Berserk would be nice too, though. |
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| That'll require a bigger budget , i don't think they can pull it off. They're better off adapting Part 7 |
Ikkun_ said: i think part 7 needs as much as budget as some berserk arcs because it has horses. horses are expensive to animate and sbr doesnt only have one horse, or maybe 4 horses, even 4 horses is a challenge to make. sbr has at least 40 horses in one panel, that would be so expensive that its better for them to animate berserk and then sbr after they adapt black swordsman arc and golden age arc and then maybe conviction arc after sbr.That'll require a bigger budget , i don't think they can pull it off. They're better off adapting Part 7 |
NormalKitten said: Oongbuh said: none of those anime copied the manga exactly like golden wind did. just search the panels and look at them in both anime and manga, its wonderful. ghibli doesnt even have a detailed body lines or anything, it has a simple kid's art style, ufotable looks like any other basic anime where a nose is a single dot. your taste is kinda perverted, not gonna lie, especially that you have majima in your favourites instead of character like guts.Part 5's animation is incredible, yes, but "best animation in all of anime"? I don't think you've seen any Ghibli, Ufotable, Kyoani, or Comix Wave anime if you made that statement. What? SO you're saying that Jojo Part 5 has better animation than UFOtable? Did u even watch any of their animes? Demon Slayer isn't even their best work and imo Part 5 doesn't stand up to even that point. Fate/stay night: Heaven's Feel 3 is on whole another level, it's literally peak animation, In my opinion there's no better animated fight than Saber Alter vs Emiya and Rider, and that's not even the only fight this movie has, there's like 3 other fights that are animated phenomenally, Nine Lives Blade Works scene is just pure hype, myb not really showing quality of animation but still, there's Rin vs Sakura, and this does show great animation quality, and at last we have Emiya vs Kirei which also doesn't have "great animation" (in terms that it's not as flashy as other fights) but it's still well animated fight. Now you may say that this is unfair comparison since HF 3 is movie from 2020, while Part 5 is series from 2018. Let's look back at UBW series done by UFO in 2014-2015, Emiya vs Archer is great fight (despite being mostly dialogue for 3 episodes straight) and Shirou vs Gilgamesh is also great animated fight, even some scenes from Fate/Zero (2011-2012) look better than part 5, most notable being Saber's "EXCALIBUUUUR" from the end of Caster fight. Also, don't take me wrong, I fucking love Jojos, anime is awesome and I even read manga, easily my top 3 animanga, but DP's level of animation doesn't compare to UFOtable's quality. While Part 5 is defo best animated Jojo Part (so far, SO is looking to be even better) and it has great fight scenes, such as 7 page muda fight, or final fights, it's still not up to UFO's level. Yes, artstyle is almost identical to the manga, and imo DP's Jojo adaptation is a passion project, they do everything in their strength to present Jojo how Araki wanted it to be experienced (with constant change of color palette, since Jojo doesn't have canon colors, and also fixing some mistakes which Araki made, for example: making Johnatan and Joseph have their Joestar mark in anime, while in manga Joestar mark only appeared in part 3, and I remember there being a few more but I don't remember them specifically). So yeah, what I wanted to say is: DP is definitely doing Jojos justice, with trying to improve anything they can and add new anime-only content (such as Fugo's backstory), and yes, they defo capture heart of Jojos, adaptation is really faithful, and artstyle is unique and true to the manga, but they are also lacking in animation quality, as multiple ppl above me already said, DP takes advantage of Jojo's ridicuelness and overexegartions (poses etc...) to make it seem normal, but it's animation definitely doesn't stand up to UFO level. As for, Part 7 vs Berserk anime debate, My guess is that none of them will be animated, since Berserk is out of Dp's quality reach (regarding artstyle, but also heavy and dark themes presented in the manga, note that I haven't read Berserk yet, but this is what majority thinks and I defo agree), WiT Studio seems like perfect studio to adapt Berserk imo, at least considering how they adapted Vinland Saga. And as for part 7, horses are just hard to animated, and they definitely do appear a lot in SBR, so only option if they want to adapt Part 7 is to use CGI horses, which I hope will be good, since DP already did good CGI in Jojo ops. I sincerely hope, that one day we will have both (good) SBR and Berserk anime, but it'll be long before it happens. |
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razum1235 said: i have seen how ufofotable animation and it doesnt have details, lines on arms, detailed more realistic body like in jojo, it doesnt have japanese letters from the manga, it doesnt feel like manga, eyes are too big, i dont like big eyes, im a person that likes realistic art instead of big eyes ones, i like golden wind more because its harder to make those humans and fashion is way better then in all of ufo that you said. as i manga reader, i love jojo animation the most because it feels like manga.NormalKitten said: none of those anime copied the manga exactly like golden wind did. just search the panels and look at them in both anime and manga, its wonderful. ghibli doesnt even have a detailed body lines or anything, it has a simple kid's art style, ufotable looks like any other basic anime where a nose is a single dot. your taste is kinda perverted, not gonna lie, especially that you have majima in your favourites instead of character like guts. What? SO you're saying that Jojo Part 5 has better animation than UFOtable? Did u even watch any of their animes? Demon Slayer isn't even their best work and imo Part 5 doesn't stand up to even that point. Fate/stay night: Heaven's Feel 3 is on whole another level, it's literally peak animation, In my opinion there's no better animated fight than Saber Alter vs Emiya and Rider, and that's not even the only fight this movie has, there's like 3 other fights that are animated phenomenally, Nine Lives Blade Works scene is just pure hype, myb not really showing quality of animation but still, there's Rin vs Sakura, and this does show great animation quality, and at last we have Emiya vs Kirei which also doesn't have "great animation" (in terms that it's not as flashy as other fights) but it's still well animated fight. Now you may say that this is unfair comparison since HF 3 is movie from 2020, while Part 5 is series from 2018. Let's look back at UBW series done by UFO in 2014-2015, Emiya vs Archer is great fight (despite being mostly dialogue for 3 episodes straight) and Shirou vs Gilgamesh is also great animated fight, even some scenes from Fate/Zero (2011-2012) look better than part 5, most notable being Saber's "EXCALIBUUUUR" from the end of Caster fight. Also, don't take me wrong, I fucking love Jojos, anime is awesome and I even read manga, easily my top 3 animanga, but DP's level of animation doesn't compare to UFOtable's quality. While Part 5 is defo best animated Jojo Part (so far, SO is looking to be even better) and it has great fight scenes, such as 7 page muda fight, or final fights, it's still not up to UFO's level. Yes, artstyle is almost identical to the manga, and imo DP's Jojo adaptation is a passion project, they do everything in their strength to present Jojo how Araki wanted it to be experienced (with constant change of color palette, since Jojo doesn't have canon colors, and also fixing some mistakes which Araki made, for example: making Johnatan and Joseph have their Joestar mark in anime, while in manga Joestar mark only appeared in part 3, and I remember there being a few more but I don't remember them specifically). So yeah, what I wanted to say is: DP is definitely doing Jojos justice, with trying to improve anything they can and add new anime-only content (such as Fugo's backstory), and yes, they defo capture heart of Jojos, adaptation is really faithful, and artstyle is unique and true to the manga, but they are also lacking in animation quality, as multiple ppl above me already said, DP takes advantage of Jojo's ridicuelness and overexegartions (poses etc...) to make it seem normal, but it's animation definitely doesn't stand up to UFO level. As for, Part 7 vs Berserk anime debate, My guess is that none of them will be animated, since Berserk is out of Dp's quality reach (regarding artstyle, but also heavy and dark themes presented in the manga, note that I haven't read Berserk yet, but this is what majority thinks and I defo agree), WiT Studio seems like perfect studio to adapt Berserk imo, at least considering how they adapted Vinland Saga. And as for part 7, horses are just hard to animated, and they definitely do appear a lot in SBR, so only option if they want to adapt Part 7 is to use CGI horses, which I hope will be good, since DP already did good CGI in Jojo ops. I sincerely hope, that one day we will have both (good) SBR and Berserk anime, but it'll be long before it happens. |
| I love berserk it’s my second favorite series but I love jojos way better so I rather have a part 7 and 8 anime |
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CrakkerZ said: im sure first 6 parts are connected and parts 7 and 8 are connected. each jojo part is NOT its own story. this means that jojo is not finished like berserk. we still need part 9 because jojolion has more like a part ending, there is still more to come.NormalKitten said: jojo is also not finished. do you realise that 4 arcs of berserk are finished???? same like 7 parts of jojo??? Each part of jojo is its own boxed in story. You cannot compare jojos parts to berserks arcs. Jojos parts each have different stories following different characters, whereas berserk has one flowing story. |
NormalKitten said: razum1235 said: i have seen how ufofotable animation and it doesnt have details, lines on arms, detailed more realistic body like in jojo, it doesnt have japanese letters from the manga, it doesnt feel like manga, eyes are too big, i dont like big eyes, im a person that likes realistic art instead of big eyes ones, i like golden wind more because its harder to make those humans and fashion is way better then in all of ufo that you said. as i manga reader, i love jojo animation the most because it feels like manga.What? SO you're saying that Jojo Part 5 has better animation than UFOtable? Did u even watch any of their animes? Demon Slayer isn't even their best work and imo Part 5 doesn't stand up to even that point. Fate/stay night: Heaven's Feel 3 is on whole another level, it's literally peak animation, In my opinion there's no better animated fight than Saber Alter vs Emiya and Rider, and that's not even the only fight this movie has, there's like 3 other fights that are animated phenomenally, Nine Lives Blade Works scene is just pure hype, myb not really showing quality of animation but still, there's Rin vs Sakura, and this does show great animation quality, and at last we have Emiya vs Kirei which also doesn't have "great animation" (in terms that it's not as flashy as other fights) but it's still well animated fight. Now you may say that this is unfair comparison since HF 3 is movie from 2020, while Part 5 is series from 2018. Let's look back at UBW series done by UFO in 2014-2015, Emiya vs Archer is great fight (despite being mostly dialogue for 3 episodes straight) and Shirou vs Gilgamesh is also great animated fight, even some scenes from Fate/Zero (2011-2012) look better than part 5, most notable being Saber's "EXCALIBUUUUR" from the end of Caster fight. Also, don't take me wrong, I fucking love Jojos, anime is awesome and I even read manga, easily my top 3 animanga, but DP's level of animation doesn't compare to UFOtable's quality. While Part 5 is defo best animated Jojo Part (so far, SO is looking to be even better) and it has great fight scenes, such as 7 page muda fight, or final fights, it's still not up to UFO's level. Yes, artstyle is almost identical to the manga, and imo DP's Jojo adaptation is a passion project, they do everything in their strength to present Jojo how Araki wanted it to be experienced (with constant change of color palette, since Jojo doesn't have canon colors, and also fixing some mistakes which Araki made, for example: making Johnatan and Joseph have their Joestar mark in anime, while in manga Joestar mark only appeared in part 3, and I remember there being a few more but I don't remember them specifically). So yeah, what I wanted to say is: DP is definitely doing Jojos justice, with trying to improve anything they can and add new anime-only content (such as Fugo's backstory), and yes, they defo capture heart of Jojos, adaptation is really faithful, and artstyle is unique and true to the manga, but they are also lacking in animation quality, as multiple ppl above me already said, DP takes advantage of Jojo's ridicuelness and overexegartions (poses etc...) to make it seem normal, but it's animation definitely doesn't stand up to UFO level. As for, Part 7 vs Berserk anime debate, My guess is that none of them will be animated, since Berserk is out of Dp's quality reach (regarding artstyle, but also heavy and dark themes presented in the manga, note that I haven't read Berserk yet, but this is what majority thinks and I defo agree), WiT Studio seems like perfect studio to adapt Berserk imo, at least considering how they adapted Vinland Saga. And as for part 7, horses are just hard to animated, and they definitely do appear a lot in SBR, so only option if they want to adapt Part 7 is to use CGI horses, which I hope will be good, since DP already did good CGI in Jojo ops. I sincerely hope, that one day we will have both (good) SBR and Berserk anime, but it'll be long before it happens. I'm just here to inform you that Fate isn't adapted from manga lol, it's adapted from VN, and tbh UFOtable did great job at "modernizing" VN artstyle, if ur talking about DS on other hand, smth's wrong with your eyes. Look, I don't even like DS, but artstyle is great imo, and it's realistic. Also, you're literally comparing artstyles, which has nothing to do with the actual animation. |
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razum1235 said: nothing is wrong with my eyes. i dont know what ds means but i know animation of jojo is beautiful and i think its the best animation because jojo used to be the unadaptable manga. also you have sword art online in your favourites and you are telling me that something is wrong with my eyes. how could you have that thing in your favourites in the name of everything...NormalKitten said: i have seen how ufofotable animation and it doesnt have details, lines on arms, detailed more realistic body like in jojo, it doesnt have japanese letters from the manga, it doesnt feel like manga, eyes are too big, i dont like big eyes, im a person that likes realistic art instead of big eyes ones, i like golden wind more because its harder to make those humans and fashion is way better then in all of ufo that you said. as i manga reader, i love jojo animation the most because it feels like manga. I'm just here to inform you that Fate isn't adapted from manga lol, it's adapted from VN, and tbh UFOtable did great job at "modernizing" VN artstyle, if ur talking about DS on other hand, smth's wrong with your eyes. Look, I don't even like DS, but artstyle is great imo, and it's realistic. Also, you're literally comparing artstyles, which has nothing to do with the actual animation. |
NormalKitten said: razum1235 said: nothing is wrong with my eyes. i dont know what ds means but i know animation of jojo is beautiful and i think its the best animation because jojo used to be the unadaptable manga. also you have sword art online in your favourites and you are telling me that something is wrong with my eyes. how could you have that thing in your favourites in the name of everything...I'm just here to inform you that Fate isn't adapted from manga lol, it's adapted from VN, and tbh UFOtable did great job at "modernizing" VN artstyle, if ur talking about DS on other hand, smth's wrong with your eyes. Look, I don't even like DS, but artstyle is great imo, and it's realistic. Also, you're literally comparing artstyles, which has nothing to do with the actual animation. Ah, it seems to be kind of misunderstanding myb. DS = Demon Slayer, basically UFOtable's most popular work after Fate, I was saying how it's artstyle is good, and that artstyle doesn't depend on studio, because you were saying how UFo's animation is bad, while you really meant artstyle. And it just doesn't make sense since, as I said, artstyle doesn't depend on the studio animating manga/ln. Studio will always try to make anime character as similar to manga characters (in terms of artstyle). And why are you saying JoJo is an unadaptable manga? You are clearly referring to how DP animated it great, that I do agree. Because as I said previously few times (but you obviously didn't read it), DP's Jojo animation is work of passion, and for some reason you are saying to me that Jojo's animation is beautiful, while I said that few times myself. And this whole debate started because u said UFO's animation is shit, and when I asked you why u started talking about ARTSYTLE. So I ask you again, why does UFo's animation suck? And please, this time, don't bring up how it's unrealistic or whatever, because that has nothing to do w animation, and tbh I must say, even Fate has pretty realistic artstyle despite you not agreeing, it doesn't need to have lines on arms or whatever you call it to be realistic. Also, what the has my taste in anime with this argument?? It seems like you stayed out of ideas and just decides to roast my taste? WHile you, yourself, haven't even watched 5 episodes of SAO and say it's shit? Just doesn't make sense. I can also say that your taste is shit bcs u dropped Kaguya-sama and Re: Zero, but there's no point in doing so, since it has nothing to do with our argument. |
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razum1235 said: you are telling me I didnt read iojo? I never said jojo is unqdaptqble I only said it used to be known as unadaptable. Sword art onlije is the worst anime I ever watched. It triggered me so much. It goes from lv 1 to lv 20 or something. Boss fights are so lame and jn ep 23 kirito just stands and says some words ans win against villain. Its so bad that it deserves 1/10. Kaguya and fe zero are really rwally not that good compared to berserk monster and jojo. My taste is indeed, not shit. My taste is more mature. Kaguya is kinda cringy to me and I cant help it. Its not bad but its cringy. Story writing doesnt have any trilling moments and it doesnt have any depressing moments for me to connect with character like fire punch or berserk where its amazing.NormalKitten said: nothing is wrong with my eyes. i dont know what ds means but i know animation of jojo is beautiful and i think its the best animation because jojo used to be the unadaptable manga. also you have sword art online in your favourites and you are telling me that something is wrong with my eyes. how could you have that thing in your favourites in the name of everything... Ah, it seems to be kind of misunderstanding myb. DS = Demon Slayer, basically UFOtable's most popular work after Fate, I was saying how it's artstyle is good, and that artstyle doesn't depend on studio, because you were saying how UFo's animation is bad, while you really meant artstyle. And it just doesn't make sense since, as I said, artstyle doesn't depend on the studio animating manga/ln. Studio will always try to make anime character as similar to manga characters (in terms of artstyle). And why are you saying JoJo is an unadaptable manga? You are clearly referring to how DP animated it great, that I do agree. Because as I said previously few times (but you obviously didn't read it), DP's Jojo animation is work of passion, and for some reason you are saying to me that Jojo's animation is beautiful, while I said that few times myself. And this whole debate started because u said UFO's animation is shit, and when I asked you why u started talking about ARTSYTLE. So I ask you again, why does UFo's animation suck? And please, this time, don't bring up how it's unrealistic or whatever, because that has nothing to do w animation, and tbh I must say, even Fate has pretty realistic artstyle despite you not agreeing, it doesn't need to have lines on arms or whatever you call it to be realistic. Also, what the has my taste in anime with this argument?? It seems like you stayed out of ideas and just decides to roast my taste? WHile you, yourself, haven't even watched 5 episodes of SAO and say it's shit? Just doesn't make sense. I can also say that your taste is shit bcs u dropped Kaguya-sama and Re: Zero, but there's no point in doing so, since it has nothing to do with our argument. |
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NormalKitten said: razum1235 said: you are telling me I didnt read iojo? I never said jojo is unqdaptqble I only said it used to be known as unadaptable. Sword art onlije is the worst anime I ever watched. It triggered me so much. It goes from lv 1 to lv 20 or something. Boss fights are so lame and jn ep 23 kirito just stands and says some words ans win against villain. Its so bad that it deserves 1/10. Kaguya and fe zero are really rwally not that good compared to berserk monster and jojo. My taste is indeed, not shit. My taste is more mature. Kaguya is kinda cringy to me and I cant help it. Its not bad but its cringy. Story writing doesnt have any trilling moments and it doesnt have any depressing moments for me to connect with character like fire punch or berserk where its amazing.Ah, it seems to be kind of misunderstanding myb. DS = Demon Slayer, basically UFOtable's most popular work after Fate, I was saying how it's artstyle is good, and that artstyle doesn't depend on studio, because you were saying how UFo's animation is bad, while you really meant artstyle. And it just doesn't make sense since, as I said, artstyle doesn't depend on the studio animating manga/ln. Studio will always try to make anime character as similar to manga characters (in terms of artstyle). And why are you saying JoJo is an unadaptable manga? You are clearly referring to how DP animated it great, that I do agree. Because as I said previously few times (but you obviously didn't read it), DP's Jojo animation is work of passion, and for some reason you are saying to me that Jojo's animation is beautiful, while I said that few times myself. And this whole debate started because u said UFO's animation is shit, and when I asked you why u started talking about ARTSYTLE. So I ask you again, why does UFo's animation suck? And please, this time, don't bring up how it's unrealistic or whatever, because that has nothing to do w animation, and tbh I must say, even Fate has pretty realistic artstyle despite you not agreeing, it doesn't need to have lines on arms or whatever you call it to be realistic. Also, what the has my taste in anime with this argument?? It seems like you stayed out of ideas and just decides to roast my taste? WHile you, yourself, haven't even watched 5 episodes of SAO and say it's shit? Just doesn't make sense. I can also say that your taste is shit bcs u dropped Kaguya-sama and Re: Zero, but there's no point in doing so, since it has nothing to do with our argument. Your taste still makes no sense. For starters, Kaguya is a comedy romance. I don't see why you would complain about it 'having no depressing moments' when it's literally not what it offers at all. It's like watching a slice of life and complaining about there not being enough action. It's just dumb. And Fate Zero DOES have these thrilling and dark moments too, so your reasoning for disliking it, again, makes absolute zerk sense. And I just find it ironic that you claim your taste is 'mature', yet you literally act like one of those brats that doesn't admit he's wrong. That, and your grammar makes it look like you touched a computer for the first time. |
NormalKitten said: Oongbuh said: none of those anime copied the manga exactly like golden wind did. just search the panels and look at them in both anime and manga, its wonderful. ghibli doesnt even have a detailed body lines or anything, it has a simple kid's art style, ufotable looks like any other basic anime where a nose is a single dot. your taste is kinda perverted, not gonna lie, especially that you have majima in your favourites instead of character like guts.Part 5's animation is incredible, yes, but "best animation in all of anime"? I don't think you've seen any Ghibli, Ufotable, Kyoani, or Comix Wave anime if you made that statement. There is actually a huge difference between Animation and Art style. What you are talking about now is art style and not animation lol. |
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Scordolo said: animation looks good too.NormalKitten said: none of those anime copied the manga exactly like golden wind did. just search the panels and look at them in both anime and manga, its wonderful. ghibli doesnt even have a detailed body lines or anything, it has a simple kid's art style, ufotable looks like any other basic anime where a nose is a single dot. your taste is kinda perverted, not gonna lie, especially that you have majima in your favourites instead of character like guts. There is actually a huge difference between Animation and Art style. What you are talking about now is art style and not animation lol. |
Oongbuh said: correcting grammar makes a person look stupid. i dont want to be mean or anything but i was using a phone. my other phone. first of all manga needs a good character development like guts, thorfinn and many more. it needs to have amazing scenes like monster where it makes a question on whats gonna happen next, slice of life is really easy to make. anyone can make up one in at least 5 minutes, the only problem is drawing it but you need to do it with every manga. in his case, he has sword art online in favourites that does everything wrong. he gave sword art online higher then 2/10. he gave it a 9. i dont want to be rude but how can a person give something that bad a 9. i like more ORIGINAL themes rather then a character standing up and touching enemy to defeat him like in ep 24 where sao copied berserk story telling. sao got so build up about it being hard to pass levels in first 2 episodes and then magically in ep 3 they are level 20! i dont think anyone can write something this bad but its just my opinion, i mean, why would someone make it look so hard to pass level and then get to 20 or 30 levels in ep 3 out of nowhere. also characters died without any development and thats just bad.NormalKitten said: you are telling me I didnt read iojo? I never said jojo is unqdaptqble I only said it used to be known as unadaptable. Sword art onlije is the worst anime I ever watched. It triggered me so much. It goes from lv 1 to lv 20 or something. Boss fights are so lame and jn ep 23 kirito just stands and says some words ans win against villain. Its so bad that it deserves 1/10. Kaguya and fe zero are really rwally not that good compared to berserk monster and jojo. My taste is indeed, not shit. My taste is more mature. Kaguya is kinda cringy to me and I cant help it. Its not bad but its cringy. Story writing doesnt have any trilling moments and it doesnt have any depressing moments for me to connect with character like fire punch or berserk where its amazing. Your taste still makes no sense. For starters, Kaguya is a comedy romance. I don't see why you would complain about it 'having no depressing moments' when it's literally not what it offers at all. It's like watching a slice of life and complaining about there not being enough action. It's just dumb. And Fate Zero DOES have these thrilling and dark moments too, so your reasoning for disliking it, again, makes absolute zerk sense. And I just find it ironic that you claim your taste is 'mature', yet you literally act like one of those brats that doesn't admit he's wrong. That, and your grammar makes it look like you touched a computer for the first time. i like story that has insane unique story telling like kingdom, monster, jojo, berserk and many more. if you like slice of like then go for it, i wont judge it, its just that anyone could make it, all you need is half naked girls and romance and boobs jokes. if you like that then go for it. |
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SenseiC_ said: miura is dead, he will ask no one now. the only thing possible is for someone to make a high budget animation.I also doubt that miura would've asked a studio to make one after 2016 |
NormalKitten said: for the love of god i want this to happen. it will take too long to animate part 7. i want at least 2 arcs of berserk before part 7. PLEASE! Nah, I would prefer Steal Ball Run rather than Berserk because Part 7 then will come out super late. As someone caught up to the Berserk manga, I am more than contempt with the art and the 1990s anime that came out with their banging music. |
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