JustaBrer said: TheBrainintheJar said: You're entering a loop here, the same one used by silly SJW's who got through the whole 'I'm a victim therefore I must not be questioned'. Discussions can't move on with this. No, I most certainly am not. That's insane of you to say so. I'm not saying you say the exact same thing as them, but this thought process enters a loop - 'it's self-evident, anyone else isn't smart enough to get it' and so we can't progress. |
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TheBrainintheJar said: I'm not saying you say the exact same thing as them, but this thought process enters a loop - 'it's self-evident, anyone else isn't smart enough to get it' and so we can't progress. People are smart enough to understand it when they see it. Many people share my view. There's a big difference between insane people and healthy people, though. |
JustaBrer said: TheBrainintheJar said: I'm not saying you say the exact same thing as them, but this thought process enters a loop - 'it's self-evident, anyone else isn't smart enough to get it' and so we can't progress. People are smart enough to understand it when they see it. Many people share my view. There's a big difference between insane people and healthy people, though. Since I have no insight into this thought process - what is this harmony, the difference between insane and healthy - I cannot in any way tell whether you're right or wrong. Satania- said: TheBrainintheJar said: I'm not saying you say the exact same thing as them, but this thought process enters a loop - 'it's self-evident, anyone else isn't smart enough to get it' and so we can't progress. People can progress if they don't stagnate themselves around one thought process. Easier said than done. The problem is, your thought process is predictable as it stands so therefore you have no choice to think this way. I'm not sure how this connects to our discussion. Re-phrase? |
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| @TheBrainintheJar That's because you are suffering from insanity. |
How do I know? And please no Kafka-trapping. |
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You don't. Only others who are healthy do. That is insanity. |
As I said, this is Kafka-trapping, which is a cruel thing to do if you got power to act on it. |
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| It seems only 'smart/sane' people can believe in this self evident truth that you described as the 'sense' of harmony and good... Who/what defines good and how can you prove pure harmony in your eyes mr brer? If you take a scientific standpoint the second law of thermodynamics proves how unbalanced/unharmonized the universe is as the entropy is always increasing overall no matter what. |
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Ikaros_42oh said: It seems only 'smart/sane' people can believe in this self evident truth that you described as the 'sense' of harmony and good... Who/what defines good and how can you prove pure harmony in your eyes mr brer? If you take a scientific standpoint the second law of thermodynamics proves how unbalanced/unharmonized the universe is as the entropy is always increasing overall no matter what. Mental health defines good. People share objective morality when they share mental health. Harmony is just the interaction of everything to show anything. As it turns out, this is the case with the universe. God's metaphysics is the exception which does not adhere to physical laws. |
JustaBrer said: Ikaros_42oh said: It seems only 'smart/sane' people can believe in this self evident truth that you described as the 'sense' of harmony and good... Who/what defines good and how can you prove pure harmony in your eyes mr brer? If you take a scientific standpoint the second law of thermodynamics proves how unbalanced/unharmonized the universe is as the entropy is always increasing overall no matter what. Mental health defines good. People share objective morality when they share mental health. Harmony is just the interaction of everything to show anything. As it turns out, this is the case with the universe. God's metaphysics is the exception which does not adhere to physical laws. Are people who have autism or other mental illness not good then? Some autistic people are the nicest and most thoughtful people i know (on the average even overall better humans than the average christian I've met...). There is no objective morality because reality (which includes morality) is utterly subjective. Basically i think in terms of moral skepticism https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/skepticism-moral/ everything/the universe is not in harmony though... the driving factor of the universe is energy and as I've explained it will eventually end up so dispersed it won't measurably exist anymore and thus nothing will be shown or interact ever again. On a small scale things can be harmonious but to say the universe is... no. no offense dude but i disagree with pretty much everything I've seen you write here lol except for your positive messages promoting a fulfilling exciting life which i find subjectively good. |
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Ikaros_42oh said: JustaBrer said: Mental health defines good. People share objective morality when they share mental health. Harmony is just the interaction of everything to show anything. As it turns out, this is the case with the universe. God's metaphysics is the exception which does not adhere to physical laws. Are people who have autism or other mental illness not good then? Some autistic people are the nicest and most thoughtful people i know (on the average even overall better humans than the average christian I've met...). There is no objective morality because reality (which includes morality) is utterly subjective. Basically i think in terms of moral skepticism https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/skepticism-moral/ everything/the universe is not in harmony though... the driving factor of the universe is energy and as I've explained it will eventually end up so dispersed it won't measurably exist anymore and thus nothing will be shown or interact ever again. On a small scale things can be harmonious but to say the universe is... no. no offense dude but i disagree with pretty much everything I've seen you write here lol except for your positive messages promoting a fulfilling exciting life which i find subjectively good. Mental health isn't binary, it exists on a spectrum. And it is infinite. God is the embodiment of infinite mental health, and Satan is the embodiment of infinite insanity. People suffer from mental illness. Some have mastered placidity and so it barely affects them at all. People with low functioning autism have a physical defect, and so they may not suffer the free will of mental illness because of their defect (their minds are inherently wired differently). Naturally they may still suffer from mental illness, but their obliviousness can help them ignore all the bad in the world as well. Subjective morality and subjective reality is nonsense. Measurably known to exist =/= actually existing. You need to drop this whole subjective reality nonsense. |
JustaBrer said: Ikaros_42oh said: Are people who have autism or other mental illness not good then? Some autistic people are the nicest and most thoughtful people i know (on the average even overall better humans than the average christian I've met...). There is no objective morality because reality (which includes morality) is utterly subjective. Basically i think in terms of moral skepticism https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/skepticism-moral/ everything/the universe is not in harmony though... the driving factor of the universe is energy and as I've explained it will eventually end up so dispersed it won't measurably exist anymore and thus nothing will be shown or interact ever again. On a small scale things can be harmonious but to say the universe is... no. no offense dude but i disagree with pretty much everything I've seen you write here lol except for your positive messages promoting a fulfilling exciting life which i find subjectively good. Mental health isn't binary, it exists on a spectrum. And it is infinite. God is the embodiment of infinite mental health, and Satan is the embodiment of infinite insanity. People suffer from mental illness. Some have mastered placidity and so it barely affects them at all. People with low functioning autism have a physical defect, and so they may not suffer the free will of mental illness because of their defect (their minds are inherently wired differently). Naturally they may still suffer from mental illness, but their obliviousness can help them ignore all the bad in the world as well. Subjective morality and subjective reality is nonsense. Measurably known to exist =/= actually existing. You need to drop this whole subjective reality nonsense. yes ill agree mental health is obviously a spectrum (no shit)... but if it truly barely affects them at all then why bother calling it an illness? Sounds like your very normal typical flawed human to me that you're projecting this mental illness idea on then... the fuck is "free will of mental illness"? I really don't understand how you can say reality isn't subjective. Everything we know and base our morals on could be wrong, accept this possibility and move on lol you need to drop this "MY ONE TRUE REALITY" objective nonsense |
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You need to calm down son. You're acting mad. |
lmao nice, you're acting defeated dad... its ok tho, I'm clearly infinitely mentally insane hmmhhhh |
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Ikaros_42oh said: lmao nice, you're acting defeated dad... its ok tho, I'm clearly infinitely mentally insane hmmhhhh Yes. You're fucking insane. Get a grip of yourself. |
JustaBrer said: Ikaros_42oh said: lmao nice, you're acting defeated dad... its ok tho, I'm clearly infinitely mentally insane hmmhhhh Yes. You're fucking insane. Get a grip of yourself. Nah I've got a pretty strong grip of myself I just don't pretend that there is anything 100% verifiable about god and even reality/morality. Loosen up a bit. You're choking your mind. |
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Ikaros_42oh said: JustaBrer said: Yes. You're fucking insane. Get a grip of yourself. Nah I've got a pretty strong grip of myself I just don't pretend that there is anything 100% verifiable about god and even reality/morality. Loosen up a bit. You're choking your mind. good luck arguing about sanity on MAL, guys :P |
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Ikaros_42oh said: JustaBrer said: Yes. You're fucking insane. Get a grip of yourself. Nah I've got a pretty strong grip of myself I just don't pretend that there is anything 100% verifiable about god and even reality/morality. Loosen up a bit. You're choking your mind. I am now going to proceed to ignore all of your petty little posts. And I think I will ignore the rest of your posts on this forum whilst I'm at it. You are not mentally fit, and that is unacceptable for engaging in any discussion with me. Riddance. |
JustaBrer said: Can't handle criticism of your opinions, and that's all they are, proceed to call people insane in order to dismiss their points, then act all high minded and pretend to be superior. Another "intellectual" on MAL I see. Ikaros_42oh said: Nah I've got a pretty strong grip of myself I just don't pretend that there is anything 100% verifiable about god and even reality/morality. Loosen up a bit. You're choking your mind. I am now going to proceed to ignore all of your petty little posts. And I think I will ignore the rest of your posts on this forum whilst I'm at it. You are not mentally fit, and that is unacceptable for engaging in any discussion with me. Riddance. And people wonder why I consider discussing serious topics on MAL pointless... OT: In general I consider philosophy to be outdated in terms of impact on the world, aside from political philosophy. Philosophy is not the end all be all that a lot of people on this forum seem to make it out to be, and most people that believe so come off as complete morons. Before anyone says I "wouldn't survive a minute in a philosophy class", I studied it for 2 years. |
ThrashMattoMay 25, 2017 1:13 PM
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ThrashMatto said: JustaBrer said: Can't handle criticism of your opinions, and that's all they are, proceed to call people insane in order to dismiss their points, then act all high minded and pretend to be superior. Another "intellectual" on MAL I see. I am now going to proceed to ignore all of your petty little posts. And I think I will ignore the rest of your posts on this forum whilst I'm at it. You are not mentally fit, and that is unacceptable for engaging in any discussion with me. Riddance. And people wonder why I consider discussing serious topics on MAL pointless... OT: In general I consider philosophy to be outdated in terms of impact on the world, aside from political philosophy. Philosophy is not the end all be all that a lot of people on this forum seem to make it out to be, and most people that believe so come off as complete morons. Before anyone says I "wouldn't survive a minute in a philosophy class", I studied it for 2 years. How little you understand of philosophy. Master philosophy, and you've mastered life. To master philosophy is to master mental health. I imagine with your naïveté you may convince yourself that you would be surviving those classes. But the result would be, and has seemed to be, yet another arrogant little fool with hardly a shred of novel insight into our society or reality. I can deal with people like you all day long. Its not hard, and I'll keep hammering the message home until you back off and learn to speak sense before you speak. Do yourself a favour and tone down that baseless ego. |
JustaBrer said: ThrashMatto said: Can't handle criticism of your opinions, and that's all they are, proceed to call people insane in order to dismiss their points, then act all high minded and pretend to be superior. Another "intellectual" on MAL I see. And people wonder why I consider discussing serious topics on MAL pointless... OT: In general I consider philosophy to be outdated in terms of impact on the world, aside from political philosophy. Philosophy is not the end all be all that a lot of people on this forum seem to make it out to be, and most people that believe so come off as complete morons. Before anyone says I "wouldn't survive a minute in a philosophy class", I studied it for 2 years. How little you understand of philosophy. Master philosophy, and you've mastered life. To master philosophy is to master mental health. I imagine with your naïveté you may convince yourself that you would be surviving those classes. But the result would be, and has seemed to be, yet another arrogant little fool with hardly a shred of novel insight into our society or reality. I can deal with people like you all day long. Its not hard, and I'll keep hammering the message home until you back off and learn to speak sense before you speak. Do yourself a favour and tone down that baseless ego. Okay kid, how old are you? Seriously, do you talk like this in real life? Apologies if you're an adult, you just talk like a 15 year old who's trying to overcompensate. Also lol at telling other people to "tone down that baseless ego", the irony is too much. Edit: Oh, you're 22.... that's sad |
ThrashMattoMay 25, 2017 2:56 PM
I love Christine "If one advances confidently in the direction of his dreams, and endeavors to live the life which he has imagined, he will meet with a success unexpected in common hours. He will put some things behind, will pass an invisible boundary; In proportion as he simplifies his life, the laws of the universe will appear less complex, and solitude will not be solitude, nor poverty poverty, nor weakness weakness." - Henry David Thoreau |
| There is so much more to life than mastering philosophy lmao you're a joke confirmed |
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TPO said: It's a mocking reference to something another MAL "intellectual" posted in another thread, that's it.ThrashMatto said: Before anyone says I "wouldn't survive a minute in a philosophy class", I studied it for 2 years. I was in tentative agreement with you until this clanger, tbh |
I love Christine "If one advances confidently in the direction of his dreams, and endeavors to live the life which he has imagined, he will meet with a success unexpected in common hours. He will put some things behind, will pass an invisible boundary; In proportion as he simplifies his life, the laws of the universe will appear less complex, and solitude will not be solitude, nor poverty poverty, nor weakness weakness." - Henry David Thoreau |
ThrashMatto said: JustaBrer said: How little you understand of philosophy. Master philosophy, and you've mastered life. To master philosophy is to master mental health. I imagine with your naïveté you may convince yourself that you would be surviving those classes. But the result would be, and has seemed to be, yet another arrogant little fool with hardly a shred of novel insight into our society or reality. I can deal with people like you all day long. Its not hard, and I'll keep hammering the message home until you back off and learn to speak sense before you speak. Do yourself a favour and tone down that baseless ego. Okay kid, how old are you? Seriously, do you talk like this in real life? Apologies if you're an adult, you just talk like a 15 year old who's trying to overcompensate. Also lol at telling other people to "tone down that baseless ego", the irony is too much. Edit: Oh, you're 22.... that's sad My physical age may be 22 but my mental age is infinitely superior to yours. Fuck off. |
JustaBrer said: Oh yes, definitely showing your maturity here, good job.ThrashMatto said: Okay kid, how old are you? Seriously, do you talk like this in real life? Apologies if you're an adult, you just talk like a 15 year old who's trying to overcompensate. Also lol at telling other people to "tone down that baseless ego", the irony is too much. Edit: Oh, you're 22.... that's sad My physical age may be 22 but my mental age is infinitely superior to yours. Fuck off. |
I love Christine "If one advances confidently in the direction of his dreams, and endeavors to live the life which he has imagined, he will meet with a success unexpected in common hours. He will put some things behind, will pass an invisible boundary; In proportion as he simplifies his life, the laws of the universe will appear less complex, and solitude will not be solitude, nor poverty poverty, nor weakness weakness." - Henry David Thoreau |
ThrashMatto said: JustaBrer said: Can't handle criticism of your opinions, and that's all they are, proceed to call people insane in order to dismiss their points, then act all high minded and pretend to be superior. Another "intellectual" on MAL I see. I am now going to proceed to ignore all of your petty little posts. And I think I will ignore the rest of your posts on this forum whilst I'm at it. You are not mentally fit, and that is unacceptable for engaging in any discussion with me. Riddance. And people wonder why I consider discussing serious topics on MAL pointless... OT: In general I consider philosophy to be outdated in terms of impact on the world, aside from political philosophy. Philosophy is not the end all be all that a lot of people on this forum seem to make it out to be, and most people that believe so come off as complete morons. Before anyone says I "wouldn't survive a minute in a philosophy class", I studied it for 2 years. That's odd. Science relies on epistemology. Consciousness studies relies on philosophy of mind. Ethics are a big deal - all laws come from there. Philosophy of religion is a big deal, since religion is still a big deal for people. I think it's more to do with the fact people don't study philosophy. |
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ThrashMatto said: JustaBrer said: Oh yes, definitely showing your maturity here, good job.My physical age may be 22 but my mental age is infinitely superior to yours. Fuck off. Like I said, fuck off. TheBrainintheJar said: ThrashMatto said: Can't handle criticism of your opinions, and that's all they are, proceed to call people insane in order to dismiss their points, then act all high minded and pretend to be superior. Another "intellectual" on MAL I see. And people wonder why I consider discussing serious topics on MAL pointless... OT: In general I consider philosophy to be outdated in terms of impact on the world, aside from political philosophy. Philosophy is not the end all be all that a lot of people on this forum seem to make it out to be, and most people that believe so come off as complete morons. Before anyone says I "wouldn't survive a minute in a philosophy class", I studied it for 2 years. That's odd. Science relies on epistemology. Consciousness studies relies on philosophy of mind. Ethics are a big deal - all laws come from there. Philosophy of religion is a big deal, since religion is still a big deal for people. I think it's more to do with the fact people don't study philosophy. Good points Brain. |
| Nice, another pseudo-intellectual with a hard-on for philosophy and thinks he's intellectually superior because he wants to discuss philosophy on an anime forum. There have been users like you in the past, they have all come and gone. |
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Hias said: Nice, another pseudo-intellectual with a hard-on for philosophy and thinks he's intellectually superior because he wants to discuss philosophy on an anime forum. There have been users like you in the past, they have all come and gone. Haha, no problem buddy. I assure you, I'm here to stay. |
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JustaBrer said: ThrashMatto said: Oh yes, definitely showing your maturity here, good job. Like I said, fuck off. I just don't get how you can consider yourself mature and intelligent when you tell people you disagree with that they're insane and to fuck off, aswell as believe that your opinions are the one and only truth. Seems more like narcissism and a fragile ego if you ask me, but hey, whatever helps you sleep at night, snowflake. |
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ThrashMatto said: I just don't get how you can consider yourself mature and intelligent when you tell people you disagree with that they're insane and to fuck off, aswell as believe that your opinions are the one and only truth. Seems more like narcissism and a fragile ego if you ask me, but hey, whatever helps you sleep at night, snowflake. It's like I've been trying to say, that's just your naivete. This is getting pitiful now. Take it easy. Have a good one. |
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