mira-lala said:HentaiPriest said:
Taiga is the one time she has,as Arturia, to kill some irrelevant person in the whole HGW.
But she doesnt have to act like the perfect king anymore.She doesnt have to hide her gender or anything else.Even with Shirou she starts trying putting on the mask of the perfect king again when she starts having feelings for him.
Arturia was still human.But like Kerry she was shutting off her own emotions.Kerry had the thought of running away in the middle of his most important battle, for his family, for his own happiness.
Gwen is the one person in her entire kingdom that wouldnt EVER cause Saber to laugh or have fun simple because Saber wouldnt allow herself to have fun because of Gwen, after she sacrificed her life as a woman for her.
1)I meant that metaphorically.
2) Hey, she doesn't necessarily have to sacrifice people. I didn't say she has to. It's only if the situation called for. She only sacrificed that one village, because the situation called for it. If she had to sacrifice lives in the future for her goal, ofc she would. She's gonna create a paradox anyway, so they won't end up dying by her hands.
3) She doesn't have to act like the perfect King, doesn't mean she doesn't have to act like a tool. She treats herself like a tool throughout Fate, until Shirou teaches her otherwise. Even after being a servant, she still threw away her emotions. Not because she's a perfect king, but because if she went by her emotions, worst things would happen. She can't deal with her emotions if she just decided to sacrifice 100 people ~.~ Like she said, she's a servant before she's a woman. A tool before she is a human. So she doesn't need her emotions. But this, which is said in Fate, is completely contradicted in Zero with Iri.
4) Yes, but Kerry is different. Even Shirou thought of running away at the end of Fate. But they are not Arturia. Not once is it said that she wanted to give up, or run away. That would be betraying her ideals and her country, and it's out of character for her. Like
Archer she doesn't stray away from her ideals.
Apart from that one time with Caliburn. She's not gonna play Castle when she has a country that needs saving.
5) Yes, she couldn't laugh around Gwen. But thats really just an off handed comment. She had all her other knights, who I'm sure like to throw around jokes from time to time, all of them cared for her, more than Iri ever did. It makes no sense for them not to be able to get to her, but Iri can. Yes, Iri is fun and light hearted, but who says that there was no such knight like that? We know Gawain can be a fun person. We know that Mordred is like a pet, and Kay is caring and there for her. She had them throughout her reign as King, but no change.
But then again, Yuri ftw. CookingPriest said:HentaiPriest said:
Taiga is the one time she has,as Arturia, to kill some irrelevant person in the whole HGW.
But she doesnt have to act like the perfect king anymore.She doesnt have to hide her gender or anything else.Even with Shirou she starts trying putting on the mask of the perfect king again when she starts having feelings for him.
Arturia was still human.But like Kerry she was shutting off her own emotions.Kerry had the thought of running away in the middle of his most important battle, for his family, for his own happiness.
Gwen is the one person in her entire kingdom that wouldnt EVER cause Saber to laugh or have fun simple because Saber wouldnt allow herself to have fun because of Gwen, after she sacrificed her life as a woman for her.
Did you somehow miss Seiba bitching for half the fate route that Shirou insists that killing masters is wrong?
And then frollicking out on her own to get owned by Sasaki?
If Canon Seiba was in Zero she would whine that Kerry took TOO LONG to off Kayneth, thus prolonging suffering of irrelevant sacrifices. Or that she did not get to do it because it is her job as a weapon to handle that.
As for chivalry - it IS just Sasaki(she was so shocked at his skill level that she could not help but respect him in similar way on how Shirou is in awe of Archer) - in most of cases if you look at her fights - she is looking how to end it FASTER with no interest in fights themselves.
With Archer it is more about hurting her pride that the dude did not take her seriously.