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Oct 30, 2010 5:16 AM

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Crazy people... Something about loli nuns just turns me OFF.... Stabbing their selves too? Kill em already!!!
Oct 30, 2010 5:21 AM
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during the end of the Op song , Did I just heard NO PANTS?? I think I need to get the official lyric for the Op song.

I think I heard a girl sound like penguin LoL
Kanade-chan said:
Pen in ears? O.o Ouch!
This proved how twisted the religion is =P


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More Religion BULLSHIT...................................-10
LoL
MorningGloryOct 30, 2010 5:33 AM
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It becomes more interesting and the battle begins, looking forward for the next episode.

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Ouch!



Yeah, that hurted me, too.
Oct 30, 2010 7:45 AM

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Good ep.^^

The nuns remind me of the Red army, if you take one of them down then ten more will come ( and they are as useless. -.- ). @_@.-

Now the only thing thats is needed is a Kung-fu priest. Like this
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I give it a 4 out of 5. ;D

Oct 30, 2010 7:52 AM

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DuroDeMatar said:
It becomes more interesting and the battle begins, looking forward for the next episode.

zimno said:
Ouch!



Yeah, that hurted me, too.

It's not that the problem it's more the following scene that made it look disgusting, let's just the after effect of the action.
Now tell me that is not disgusting to see? Well what does anyone think? For me it was realistic except for one thing, IRL you die most likely of it or at least cannot hear for the rest of your life.
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Oct 30, 2010 8:39 AM
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*jawdrop* at pen in ears
Oct 30, 2010 8:48 AM
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jedimagician said:
its just a stationary small AOE magic skill. Can't they just ignore it .....
Oct 30, 2010 9:11 AM

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Kanade-chan said:
Pen in ears? O.o Ouch!
S-Scary ;A;
Oct 30, 2010 9:11 AM

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Kanade-chan said:
Pen in ears? O.o Ouch!
S-Scary ;A;
Oct 30, 2010 9:31 AM

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MorningGlory said:
jedimagician said:
its just a stationary small AOE magic skill. Can't they just ignore it .....
Unless Izzard was around I could but I am not sure if you mean that it could some illusion going around. The blood in that pic looked pretty real to me and only Izzard faked that part in season 1 on me. In other words he punked me.

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Oct 30, 2010 10:16 AM

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Oh shit dayum!!! now I regret being a Catholic -_-;;
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alexcampos said:

OK, sometimes I don't fully explain myself, when I said "more religion bullshit", I meant the idealogical crap that was spewing from the mouth of Agnese Sanctis, and then you had Stiyl say that the minute the cross was placed on Orsola she became part of the Anglican Church???

BEYOND RIDICULOUS, not only as a religion thing, but as a plot device...

I don't mind that this anime has theological aspects which include the Anglican church, the roman catholics, or any other religion, but it's HOW they do it that annoys me and turns me off.
They're not completely based on reality you knpow. I'm quite sure magic and espers don't exist. =p

That said, Stiyl didn't meant she joined the Church of England just by wearing the cross. He merely meant she came under their protection once the cross was given to her. He actually admits he's stretching the rules so even he knows he is just spouting bullshit in order to find a way to enter the fight without breaking the rules.

I think you are just taking things too personal in the religious aspect. Are you religious? It would explain a lot.
Leon-GunOct 30, 2010 10:57 AM

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Good episode,

I get to see Tsuchimikado for the first time in a few episodes. Hopefully he does some fighting this season. He's one of my favorite side characters.

I don't think i could ever do what those nuns did to their ears...

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Someone could make a falcon punch GIF out of this...
Oct 30, 2010 11:33 AM

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Good episode

I got to see Tsuchimikado for the first time in a few episodes, hopefully he does some fighting this season and not just talking.

I don't think I could do what those nuns did to their ears....




Someone should make a falcon punch GIF out of this...
Oct 30, 2010 11:59 AM

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Holy shit, I got chills when they pierced their ears.

I did too. That was so damn messed up.
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Oct 30, 2010 12:15 PM

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i saw some ppl talkign bout itsuwa..i didn see her
Oct 30, 2010 12:29 PM
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kokoro_412 said:
i saw some ppl talkign bout itsuwa..i didn see her
IIRC she's the one from the Amakusa Church that has a sort of spear weapon. She knocks outs the nuns who blocked Touma's exit when Touma starts to escape with Orsola. You know, the girl he sort of nods at.

Oct 30, 2010 12:38 PM

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Leon-Gun said:
I think you are just taking things too personal in the religious aspect. Are you religious? It would explain a lot.


GOD NO!!!.....no pun intended :)

I'm ANTI-Religion, but I don't mind it when I see it on anime, again it's HOW it's done that annoys me, not the fact that it involves religion.

There's a lot of Religion in HELLSING Ultimate, but I've never once spoken in criticism of how it's presented in that show, in fact I have Hellsing as one of my TOP 10 favorite anime of all time...
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Leon-Gun said:
alexcampos said:

OK, sometimes I don't fully explain myself, when I said "more religion bullshit", I meant the idealogical crap that was spewing from the mouth of Agnese Sanctis, and then you had Stiyl say that the minute the cross was placed on Orsola she became part of the Anglican Church???

BEYOND RIDICULOUS, not only as a religion thing, but as a plot device...

I don't mind that this anime has theological aspects which include the Anglican church, the roman catholics, or any other religion, but it's HOW they do it that annoys me and turns me off.
They're not completely based on reality you knpow. I'm quite sure magic and espers don't exist. =p

Like Occult Academy quoted at the end of their episodes, unless you believe in them.
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That said, Stiyl didn't meant she joined the Church of England just by wearing the cross. He merely meant she came under their protection once the cross was given to her. He actually admits he's stretching the rules so even he knows he is just spouting bullshit in order to find a way to enter the fight without breaking the rules.

I agree with your thinking here. Orsola could have just been a normal civilian who was though too dangerous by the Church because she understood a dangerous book and thus all this happened.
Leon-Gun said:
I think you are just taking things too personal in the religious aspect. Are you religious? It would explain a lot.
I am too but know complaining is useless, only voicing yourself. I had a damn problem with any fan service with nuns and that included the threading Seikon no Qwaser. Poor Teresa :( the way she was treated in that series.
Forgot to add to ignore that with hentai it's just a different matter.
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Oct 30, 2010 12:55 PM

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Hmm, i don't think you need 103000 books to find contradictions in the Catholic teachings... Damn, i feel deceived too, Agnese is a very bad girl :(
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Yumekichi11 said:
I am too but know complaining is useless, only voicing yourself. I had a damn problem with any fan service with nuns and that included the threading Seikon no Qwaser. Poor Teresa :( the way she was treated in that series.
Forgot to add to ignore that with hentai it's just a different matter.
Fanservice scenes in general are usually pointless. The one with Agnese and Index barging into Touma's tent was particularly stupid.
alexcampos said:
Leon-Gun said:
I think you are just taking things too personal in the religious aspect. Are you religious? It would explain a lot.


GOD NO!!!.....no pun intended :)

I'm ANTI-Religion, but I don't mind it when I see it on anime, again it's HOW it's done that annoys me, not the fact that it involves religion.

There's a lot of Religion in HELLSING Ultimate, but I've never once spoken in criticism of how it's presented in that show, in fact I have Hellsing as one of my TOP 10 favorite anime of all time...
Well do forgive me for making the assumption. Where I live there's actually a religious singer who's called like you so it I just had that stuck in my head.

Also, I dare say Hellsing is rather tasteless in it's handling of all subjects so I really can't get on my head how TAMNI is in any way worse in it's handling of religion than Hellsing. I mean, I'm pretty sure there was one bloody insane Catholic Priest in it, let alone the two vampires who work for the Church of England.

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lol its funny because some catholics may actually stab their own eardrums to do crazy orders.

i loved this episode. index is definitely one of the best anime ever. now, i enjoy action as much as the next person, but the story is brilliant. if only i could read the damned novels... i would be so much better off. can't wait till bakatsuki take their time to translate novels 1-9, because i really would read them. light novel transition into anime by jc staff will always be a +9000

otherwise i am hearing good stuff about that one girl who saved touma. i liked her from the beginning, so i think i will keep on liking her considering the spoilers i've seen. (one...)

Index's abilities just keep on coming, and i am really enjoying it. although stiyll is just as badass as always,and touma keeps on becoming a better male lead. this anime is full of win...
Oct 30, 2010 2:15 PM

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lol its funny because some catholics may actually stab their own eardrums to do crazy orders.

i loved this episode. index is definitely one of the best anime ever. now, i enjoy action as much as the next person, but the story is brilliant. if only i could read the damned novels... i would be so much better off. can't wait till bakatsuki take their time to translate novels 1-9, because i really would read them. light novel transition into anime by jc staff will always be a +9000

otherwise i am hearing good stuff about that one girl who saved touma. i liked her from the beginning, so i think i will keep on liking her considering the spoilers i've seen. (one...)

Index's abilities just keep on coming, and i am really enjoying it. although stiyll is just as badass as always,and touma keeps on becoming a better male lead. this anime is full of win...
Oct 30, 2010 2:43 PM

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*_* mm. I enjoyed seeing Itsuwa in this episode~ Hoping to see more of her in the upcoming episodes. :3


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I don't get all this religion stuff Oo

..but I don't care, the episode was nice, but the end was * ouch *
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that chick voiced buy kugumiya rei or whatever pisses me off. when touma punched/pushed her she says"what was that for".....ARE YOU SERIOUS. thats just some bad dialogue right there. you beatin some chick's ass and your shocked when someone stops you. wtf? just bad on the script writers part.
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I bet those people who said Index was useless are eating their words now. Good episode.


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jpem said:
that chick voiced buy kugumiya rei or whatever pisses me off. when touma punched/pushed her she says"what was that for".....ARE YOU SERIOUS. thats just some bad dialogue right there. you beatin some chick's ass and your shocked when someone stops you. wtf? just bad on the script writers part.
I don't see any problems with the line. The nuns believe themselves to be in the right, since they are following proper procedure and they also believed Touma to be part of the Church of England. Since this was an internal Catholic affair, Church of England members are not supposed to get involved. When Touma punches her she's basically surprised that a member of the Church of England would break the status quo. Sadly for her Touma is an atheist and he doesn't really cares about keeping the status quo between Magic and Science.

To make it short, Touma was not supposed to get involved hence the surprised reaction. Does that make it simpler to understand.

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Couldnt they just use regular earplugs? Talk about crazy nuns
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Yumekichi11 said:
MorningGlory said:
jedimagician said:
its just a stationary small AOE magic skill. Can't they just ignore it .....
Unless Izzard was around I could but I am not sure if you mean that it could some illusion going around. The blood in that pic looked pretty real to me and only Izzard faked that part in season 1 on me. In other words he punked me.
actually i am talking about Index. His magic has a very small area of affect(AOE) and he can't move while she is casting it. <<just ignore it and walk around her. duhhh
and beside It would be more affective if the nun just throw the pen/axe/spear/rocks into index's mouth rather than stabbing their own ear ....
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It has been said many times but...

LOGIC IN MY ANIMU?!
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DestinyFate said:
I bet those people who said Index was useless are eating their words now. Good episode.

Yep, I know I am....OH WAIT, they counter-measured her by bursting their ear drums.

I guess she's back to being useless :(

billng said:
Couldnt they just use regular earplugs? Talk about crazy nuns

Maybe, but then it wouldn't emphasize their fanatical devotion...

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I don't get all this religion stuff Oo

Why not ask the Hardcore Index fans (People who hate me)...
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alexcampos said:

Why not ask the Hardcore Index fans (People who hate me)...
I wouldn't waste my time hating you.

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Leon-Gun said:
alexcampos said:

Why not ask the Hardcore Index fans (People who hate me)...
I wouldn't waste my time hating you.


That's good to know, I don't hate anyone here either, I believe in discussion and people being able to argue in a civilized manner.
Oct 30, 2010 8:47 PM
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DAMMMM them nuns are hardcore religious.
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MorningGlory said:
Yumekichi11 said:
MorningGlory said:
jedimagician said:
its just a stationary small AOE magic skill. Can't they just ignore it .....
Unless Izzard was around I could but I am not sure if you mean that it could some illusion going around. The blood in that pic looked pretty real to me and only Izzard faked that part in season 1 on me. In other words he punked me.
actually i am talking about Index. His magic has a very small area of affect(AOE) and he can't move while she is casting it. <<just ignore it and walk around her. duhhh
and beside It would be more affective if the nun just throw the pen/axe/spear/rocks into index's mouth rather than stabbing their own ear ....
Agreed with you but I am not sure that would work out since her friends would not allow that. Furthermore Index might have something against that. We don't know her full potential.

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Yumekichi11 said:
MorningGlory said:
Yumekichi11 said:
MorningGlory said:
jedimagician said:
its just a stationary small AOE magic skill. Can't they just ignore it .....
Unless Izzard was around I could but I am not sure if you mean that it could some illusion going around. The blood in that pic looked pretty real to me and only Izzard faked that part in season 1 on me. In other words he punked me.
actually i am talking about Index. His magic has a very small area of affect(AOE) and he can't move while she is casting it. <<just ignore it and walk around her. duhhh
and beside It would be more affective if the nun just throw the pen/axe/spear/rocks into index's mouth rather than stabbing their own ear ....
Agreed with you but I am not sure that would work out since her friends would not allow that. Furthermore Index might have something against that. We don't know her full potential.
stabbing in to the ear should be their last resort.losing the ability of hearing is even more disadvantage at battle (example: can't hear instruction from boss=mindless zombie). Anyway, I think next episode has more explanation in this =P
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MorningGlory said:
Yumekichi11 said:
MorningGlory said:
Yumekichi11 said:
MorningGlory said:
jedimagician said:
its just a stationary small AOE magic skill. Can't they just ignore it .....
Unless Izzard was around I could but I am not sure if you mean that it could some illusion going around. The blood in that pic looked pretty real to me and only Izzard faked that part in season 1 on me. In other words he punked me.
actually i am talking about Index. His magic has a very small area of affect(AOE) and he can't move while she is casting it. <<just ignore it and walk around her. duhhh
and beside It would be more affective if the nun just throw the pen/axe/spear/rocks into index's mouth rather than stabbing their own ear ....
Agreed with you but I am not sure that would work out since her friends would not allow that. Furthermore Index might have something against that. We don't know her full potential.
stabbing in to the ear should be their last resort.losing the ability of hearing is even more disadvantage at battle (example: can't hear instruction from boss=mindless zombie). Anyway, I think next episode has more explanation in this =P
That would be good to have. They should have kept the ear drums options instead. At least that would have hurt less and there would be no permanent damage.

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Oct 30, 2010 11:08 PM

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I was hoping for some decent bad assery when Touma walked in on the nuns at first, but this is fine too.
Nuns stabbing their own ears O_O
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I though someone should mention this but Magnus burns a nun.
Leon-Gun said:
alexcampos said:

Why not ask the Hardcore Index fans (People who hate me)...
I wouldn't waste my time hating you.
I don't waste time hating unless it is a must and Agnese is a must now! Not cool stomping Orsola at all.

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This is why I hate religions, fucking mass brainwashing
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This is why I hate religions, fucking mass brainwashing
Oh? I had many times a brainwashing feel with this episode TBH.

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kilbiller said:
This is why I hate religions, fucking mass brainwashing


>implying Index offers valid portrayal and commentary on any religion on earth


oh, you! Retartedness of anime fans never stops amazing me

Anyway, great ep. Awesome fightan'

As always, japanese anti-catholicism is amusing as hell.

I really hope Oppai Kanzaki gets to kick some ass in next episode
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I find amusing that they only put the catholic church in a bad light.

Anyway pretty mediocre episode, though nuns piercing their ears was unexpected.
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I find amusing that they only put the catholic church in a bad light.
Yeah same here. Only 2 Churches with one being a 2 faction Anglican one. Where the heck is the Russian one from season 1? That would be a three faction battle. I also wonder if the Anglican faction is meant to be also the Protestant faction VS the Catholic one.

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alexcampos said:
DestinyFate said:
I bet those people who said Index was useless are eating their words now. Good episode.

Yep, I know I am....OH WAIT, they counter-measured her by bursting their ear drums.

I guess she's back to being useless :(


But Index forced them to burst their own ear drums

Ohhhhhhhh
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Yumekichi11 said:
Soulstrider said:
I find amusing that they only put the catholic church in a bad light.
Yeah same here. Only 2 Churches with one being a 2 faction Anglican one. Where the heck is the Russian one from season 1? That would be a three faction battle. I also wonder if the Anglican faction is meant to be also the Protestant faction VS the Catholic one.
The Church of England has a lot more of similarities with the Catholics than it could ever have with the the Protestants. I'm sure TAMNI has put the Church of England in a bad light too or are you forgetting the last arc of season 1 and the reason that magician actually wanted to start a war between Science and Religion.

Ah, let's also not forget the seal they placed on Index so she could not betray them and the lies they fed to Stiyl and Kaori in order to keep them on a short leash. In TAMNI 'verse all religions have evil masterminds. Also holds true for the Science side and the non-religious magicians.

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Yumekichi11 said:
Soulstrider said:
I find amusing that they only put the catholic church in a bad light.
Yeah same here. Only 2 Churches with one being a 2 faction Anglican one. Where the heck is the Russian one from season 1? That would be a three faction battle. I also wonder if the Anglican faction is meant to be also the Protestant faction VS the Catholic one.
What show have you been watching?
Roman Catholic + Church of england + Amakusa = Three churches.

Also, stop overanalizing this shit. It's not a deep critic of the rotten religion that infests our times. It's an anime.
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Leon-Gun said:
Yumekichi11 said:
Soulstrider said:
I find amusing that they only put the catholic church in a bad light.
Yeah same here. Only 2 Churches with one being a 2 faction Anglican one. Where the heck is the Russian one from season 1? That would be a three faction battle. I also wonder if the Anglican faction is meant to be also the Protestant faction VS the Catholic one.
The Church of England has a lot more of similarities with the Catholics than it could ever have with the the Protestants. I'm sure TAMNI has put the Church of England in a bad light too or are you forgetting the last arc of season 1 and the reason that magician actually wanted to start a war between Science and Religion.

Was it because differences or the fear of religion being annihilated by science? TBH I forgot due to the number of animes I watched on my list.
Leon-Gun said:
Ah, let's also not forget the seal they placed on Index so she could not betray them and the lies they fed to Stiyl and Kaori in order to keep them on a short leash. In TAMNI 'verse all religions have evil masterminds. Also holds true for the Science side and the non-religious magicians.
A interesting reminder that holds true to the root of evil itself. Also I meant the Church to which she belongs in the link: http://myanimelist.net/character/19184/Misha_Kreuzhev
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Yumekichi11 said:
Soulstrider said:
I find amusing that they only put the catholic church in a bad light.
Yeah same here. Only 2 Churches with one being a 2 faction Anglican one. Where the heck is the Russian one from season 1? That would be a three faction battle. I also wonder if the Anglican faction is meant to be also the Protestant faction VS the Catholic one.
What show have you been watching?
Roman Catholic + Church of england + Amakusa = Three churches.
Did you forget? Follow the link of that girl and it says another Church that she belongs to.
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Also, stop overanalizing this shit. It's not a deep critic of the rotten religion that infests our times. It's an anime.
That makes discussions pointless to not analyze and talk about the analyzing. I don't really around the forums the sayings of "just enjoyed the episode" or "amazing episode" I came here to discuss not say only it was good or not. Sry no offence to anyone just my only opinion.
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